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09 Oct 2019 15:28:39
A name I've not seen mentioned as manager if/ when Silva departs, is Gareth Southgate.
I'm sure i read a few months ago that he would like another shot at club management.
Does anybody know if he would be in contention? Thoughts on getting him?
Personally i am concerned by his previous club stints, but he really seems to be blooming since taking over England.

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1.) 09 Oct 2019 16:15:06
Decent shout Worcester.

{Ed002's Note - You can put Gareth Southgate out of your thoughts. He won't be joining Everton.}


2.) 09 Oct 2019 16:54:55
Thats a shame, but i guess with a big international tournament on the horizon, it really isn't a surprise. More likely available next summer after the Euros?
I think my other big shout of someone who could do a great job is Marcelo Bielsa at Leeds. High quality manager and really have no idea why he took a job in the Championship.
Let's face facts though, Silva could well stay for the rest of the year. It only takes 3 or 4 good results to turn things around and this team is more than capable of that! I really wouldn't be surprised to see him finish the season with us, a mid table finish but adding a cup, he seems to be going all out for the Carabao judging by starting line-ups.


3.) 09 Oct 2019 17:07:18
We had one ex England manager, that was enough.


4.) 09 Oct 2019 17:22:54
Would not even want him in my thoughts.


5.) 09 Oct 2019 17:36:08
Ok Charlie, never employ another ex England manager again regardless of how amazing they could be. Very intelligent thinking to rule people out because Allardyce was once a manager there.


6.) 09 Oct 2019 17:47:09
Just shows the Logic in some shouts Worcester mate, but hey its a game of opinions lol.


7.) 09 Oct 2019 18:03:49
Steve Gibson had to sack him, Gibson doesn't fire from the hip so to speak, league footy is a bit different methinks .
Not for me anyway.


8.) 09 Oct 2019 21:53:06
He’s not even a good England manager😂.


9.) 09 Oct 2019 23:37:16
Southgate is an awful manager. Best thing he has done is beat Colombia on penalties. Would actually rather have Gary Megson.


10.) 10 Oct 2019 15:52:27
why would you want gareth southgate?


11.) 10 Oct 2019 17:18:06
Gallardo, the Ajax manager or Benitez for me.


12.) 11 Oct 2019 01:47:27
I don’t think Southgate would leave the England job nor would he be sacked easily, as he was coached specifically for that job for years. All from coaching youth England teams to U21’s specifically brought through by the FA to do things how they want going forward (basically a yes man) Working so far!


13.) 11 Oct 2019 01:50:05
Mourinho for me as we can’t risk taking a chance on another unknown or up and coming manager. The excuses need to stop and Mourinho or Benitez are proven at the top.


14.) 11 Oct 2019 04:58:59
Adi Hutter for me.


15.) 11 Oct 2019 07:03:15
Not a good Club Manager and a 'Yes' man, ideal for the FA neanderthals. Still Benitez for me, Gallardo by another poster a good call as well.


16.) 11 Oct 2019 22:36:53
Southgate seriously what has he done in management win a few matches against average opposition, there would be managers I would rather take in the championship than him.


17.) 12 Oct 2019 11:14:33
A huge no. International football is so different to club football. Look at Martinez. People forget how bad of a manager he was at club level because he's more successful in an international set up with Belgium.

{Ed025's Note - i still think if he could have sorted our defence out he would still be with us BT, offensively he was very good and we played attractive stuff but he needed help with the back four which was awful, we have become a graveyard for managers who all get bogged down by the weight of expectation mate and it will need someone very special to buck that trend..


18.) 13 Oct 2019 19:17:54
Martinez was and is an excellent footballing coach, if only as Ed says he (Martinez) had sought a decent defensive coach, he would still be here. Martinez was asked to leave while we were 11th, we are currently 18th yet this guy continues to be teflon coated.


 

 

08 Aug 2019 08:05:40
So Morgan Sanson, i know naff all about him yet he is getting a lot of hype on here. Is he really that good?
I would have loved Doucoure, the kind of powerhouse midfielder that every successful team needs, plus proven in the EPL.
My question is, would Sanson or Doucoure be the better signing? I know Doucoure is not happening now but curious how Sanson fairs in comparison.

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18 May 2019 05:33:42
Hearing a rumour that Richarlison is off to Atletico Madrid. Anyone know if someones pulling my leg or if its actually a possibility?
Be very, very gutted to lose him so soon, especially with supposed interest in Digne too and Gomes now looking very unlikely. We'll be back to square one rather than slowly building a decent team if these happen.

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1.) 18 May 2019 11:19:29
Worcester mate with athletico losing griezman to Barcelona Spanish journalists just linking
richarlinson with a move to athletico but even is there interested I just can't see us selling one of are prize assets and the same goes with digne but it is good other teams covert are players as that means we really have some top players and that's good sign for us.


2.) 18 May 2019 12:33:51
Richarlison will be playing for United, Inter, Barca, PSG, Atletico and any other team with a few quid next season lol. All this is just gossip so I’ll stick my neck out and say in my opinion there are only 2 possibilities:

Definitely not Chelsea
Definitely Everton.


 

 

19 Jul 2018 15:30:25
Can I ask any of the Eds a quick question, mix of Everton and Chelsea related.

With Courtois apparently looking to leave, Chelsea will be in the market for a keeper. How do Chelsea stand on home grown quota for this upcoming season? I ask about homegrown because if they need to meet that requirement then it makes me more nervous about a Pickford approach, 2 birds with 1 stone and all that. Whereas if they are comfortably safe in that requirement then I can rest much easier because they can probably cherry pick whoever they want.

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{Ed002's Note - They are fine right now but I am aware of three that will leave. Chelsea has not made any approach for Pickford and are interested in someone else. Right now, I would not worry Worcester.}


1.) 19 Jul 2018 15:42:04
cheers Ed.


2.) 19 Jul 2018 18:01:24
Thank you very much Ed02.

It aroused my suspicion as my gut feeling was that was one of their prime reasons in a move for Barkley. I'm probably completely wrong but nobody really believed he was better than who they already had.

Keep Pickford here as long as we can and we have a chance of building a team that can challenge top 6.

{Ed002's Note - Clubs have to maintain a level of HG and often use number 3 keepers if they are one short.}


3.) 20 Jul 2018 10:52:24
Ed002: Aren’t the rules for UEFA completions (Champions League and Europa League) even tougher regarding the number of HG players in that there has to be a certain number of “club-trained” players amongst the “homegrown (I. e. association-trained) ” players in registered squads?

{Ed002's Note - The rules differ slightly and may be adopted or adapted by the EPL at some point. The EPL rules are a max of 25 players over 21 of which a max of 17 can be non-Home Grown). The remaining eight have to be HG (spending 3 years between 16 and 21 with an English or Welsh side, regardless of nationality). If there are not enough HG players, then the squad size reduces, so if there are only six, the squad reduces to 23. In terms of UEFA competitions, the rules vary slightly with the eight "HG". A maximum of four of those eight can be trained by other clubs in the English and Welsh association. The remaining have to be club trained. So If Arsenal were to recruit John Terry, he would fall in to the category of being association trained (by Chelsea) rather than club trained. Again, if there are not sufficient club trained players the squad size is reduced.}


 

 

04 Jan 2018 16:32:15
So SSN has a couple of Everton snippets. I've never trusted it for rumours, sources and what have you, but have noticed that when they give transfer news, its generally because it has become pretty mainstream so they're not putting their necks on the line.
Anyways, they say Tosun is done at 27mil and we have strong interest in Seri. The Eds have long since said about Tosun but is our interest in Seri real? Great player to land imo.

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1.) 04 Jan 2018 18:36:07
The Tosun deal won't be confirmed until Jim White is on the phone confirming it with his good pal Moshiri. 🤣.


 

 

 

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26 Oct 2019 23:43:33
Such a crappy reault today. We didn't play particularly well, but were still much better than BHA.
How on Earth Richarlison didn't get a penalty for a blatant pull to the ground yet VAR awarded one to BHA for the most innocuous of incidents by Keane, wholly accidental, barely any contact, a complete lack of intent. It's a farce!
We made a mistake to then try to push for the win in the final minutes when we could have played the game out for a point, but it just sums up the game really to throw it away.

Can't see Silva being sacked after this. I actually think it would be stupid to do so. We have a big cup game in a few days and the sacking of our manager would completely derail this opportunity to progress.
It's going to be twitchy bum time until Christmas i think, some ups and downs, but i do see us getting enough points to pull away from the relegation battle. Mid-table at very best this year which sucks, but if Silva wins a trophy then you have to wonder if there are really grounds to sack him.

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1.) 27 Oct 2019 01:12:55
There are two things to this result that annoy me.
First, Brighton fans are laughing their socks off right now in the fact that they’ve come away from that game with three points their team no way deserved thanks to an appalling use of VAR.
Second, they fully expected to get three points because we are so poor away from home that teams like Brighton know full well that they will get the win. I mean, come on! We can never expect to win any silverware or break into the top six when we are such a cert to lose our away games.


2.) 27 Oct 2019 05:27:06
I like the optimism there but we surely will never win a trophy under him. You only have to look at the sub par performances week in, week out and lack of tactics to see that. We simply haven't been good enough all season. Our form is bloody terrible. Marco Silva will be gone by Christmas as we cannot continue to play this badly or afford to lose as many games as we have. 10 points after 10 games is a joke especially when you look at our fixture list.

As for the Brighton game my view on the goals are - Pickford should have done better on the first goal and he wanted the gap in the wall. Admittedly it was a stupid free kick to give away. The second goal with Keane conceding the penalty was very harsh for me and totally accidental but VAR has given it and you have to accept it. The third was just the icing on the cake. I'm not sure what Digne was thinking especially facing towards goal.


3.) 27 Oct 2019 05:41:18
Struggling a bit to know what to make of it after that game.

Silva did what most people wanted after West Ham. He named an unchanged side except for the forced change due to injury of Mina. On paper we were playing an inferior side to West Ham but the 2 displays were chalk and cheese.

What I am struggling with is it Silva's fault as it was the same side with I would suspect the same instructions or was it the players?

Walcott, after a good game against WH was ineffective and wasteful in his finishing. Davies' distribution was terrible, Gomes didn't boss the midfield, Iwobi I thought was poor - sorry but I didn't see anything in his game yesterday to get excited about. Sidebe did nothing offensively and was out of position for the third

I know Bernard's injury didn't help. I know the VAR penalty seemed terribly unfair but why can't some of our players play several good games back to back, week in week out

I think it is too easy to put the blame on the management and let the players get away with not putting in a decent shift. Yes management have to motivate but really? Proper players shouldn't need motivating. They were playing a team we are better than on paper but too many went missing and didn't play to their ability

After turning a corner against West Ham we blew a gasket against Brighton. (sorry for all the analogies) and now have to come again against Watford with us lacking in confidence when we should have won and gone into the game with spirits high.


4.) 27 Oct 2019 05:56:39
Oh yeah are we Wigan? let's win a trophy and get relegated. For a business to survive, it has to invest and grow, most do so while doing well. We on the other hand as far as our latest 'Manager' is concerned invest in failure.


5.) 27 Oct 2019 14:21:07
Rtfp billscrocodiletears.
I said nothing about 'doing a Wigan'. Whilst we are having a shocker, i fully expect us to move up the table and avoid the relegataion battle. Much the same as the Koeman/ Rhino/ Sam season. Everyone bitching about us getting relegated yet it was never really going to happen and i don't think any real fan actually believed we would (except you and dark clouds) .
Same this year, but with actual Cup winning possibilities.
Yes its disappointing and everyone knows we are better than we're showing, but cut out the drama queen bollocks for once will you.


 

 

23 Sep 2019 00:11:54
Been a big supporter of Silva and was very much one of the 'give him time' brigade, but yesterday has ended it for me. Such a shameful result to top off a run of very poor performances. With the players at his disposal, we should be seeing much better!
Time to move on i think because its just not working out. We see a couple of glimmers of hope and then crash back down with an almighty thud.

I think I'm going to be in the minority with my call for next manager, but i want someone who has a real passion for our club - Phil Neville. I actually think its worth taking a punt on him, we certainly aren't challenging for top 4 so give an up-and-comer a chance at a cup run and an opportunity to prove he has what it takes over the course of (almost) a full season.

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1.) 23 Sep 2019 09:31:03
Would be happy to try Phil Neville at least a team he managed have improved under his management. Silva on the other hand no team has improved under him probably got worse. His record for defending set pieces is shocking yet he still persists with it. This squad should be good enough to be challenging for top 6 but not under his guidance.


 

 

31 Aug 2019 14:23:33
Can one of the Eds, or anybody else who knows the answer, please provide some insight.
Free Agent Players can only join a new club outside of the transfer window if they had become a free agent before the start of the window i believe.
But after the expulsion of Bury F. C. are the players for them still tied to that ruling? Are they left in limbo until January or allowed to find a new club right now if they feel ready? - i assume any existing contracts they have with Bury are now voided you see.

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{Ed002's Note - (a) Correct. (b) No, the PFA has discussed this with the EFL and they have an agreement (yet to be ratified) that as an exception the Bury squad which comprises four professionals, five second year scholars and 12 first year scholars will be allowed to join other sides. The figures may be slightly wrong - but they are as I recall. The scholars would not be an issue but if they are to be signing pro terms elsewhere then they have to be an exception as well.}


1.) 31 Aug 2019 17:14:22
Fantastic thank you! Would have been such a shame for players to suffer due to incompetence of a greedy owner. Still can't get my head around demanding millions for a club he bought for just £1 only a few months earlier. Not that he cares, he sold debt very very cheaply to his son in law, clearly just a scam for a quick profit with no regard for Bury's future.

{Ed002's Note - It is not the £1 against "millions" but the purchase price would be based on = (assets + debt + good will) which totals around -£10M. The owner would have accepted less than £1M but any buyer would be obliged to take over the debt. The club has been losing between £2.5M and £3M per year - so fanicially it was in a vast hole it would never be able to get out of.}


2.) 01 Sep 2019 13:19:12
The whole bury thing is very sad for the whole of Football and I feel very sorry for there lifelong supporters.
It effects not only players but local buisinesses, staff etc in fact the whole town.
There should be a better proper owners test and I would also like to see the premier league clubs give a lot more money to the teams in the lower leagues.
Yesrs ago we bougt playrs from these clubs but nowadays we go abroad, this is the way of the world. I do however a levy should be made on premier league clubs to do this.

{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with that DC..


3.) 01 Sep 2019 17:21:56
On the contrary, it's the premiership teams taking their promising young players for peanuts that plays a part in the teams demise.


 

 

17 Aug 2019 15:06:29
Dont know if any of you guys use iptv (Smart IPTV on a firestick for me) but if you do you can watch the game live on Skynet Sports 5. Aspect ratio is a bit pants (black bars at side of picture reducing screen size) but if you can't get to the match like myself, its a decent option.

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1.) 17 Aug 2019 15:18:19
So thrilled for lovely little Bernard! Seen him with those runs and cut-ins last year, and this time with a splendid end product. If he can reproduce that more this season then he's a 10+ goals a season player.
Also Gbamin is looking like a beast. Only 15 mins in i know but the way he is tackling and running through players, its a joy to see!


 

 

09 Aug 2019 07:16:39
I personally feel everyone is being harsh about signing Iwobi.
As i see it, he was never given a real chance at Arsenal so going to be hard to make a real impression there. They are a top class team and have never shown signs of wanting him to be moved on so i see that as promising.
Iwobi deal reminds me a lot of Phil Neville. Nobody was excited by that, a decent enough player for Man Utd but nothing to be excited about, a bit underwhelming when we signed him. But when given that opportunity to step up as a regular and demonstrate the skills developed at Utd, he became a legend for us. One of my all time favourite players looking back. Sometimes a player just needs that chance!
My final point for everyone to consider before slating the deal any further; Does Iwobi make us stronger or weaker? Personally i feel he makes us a better team than we were, offers winger and forward options and is young enough to keep developing. For those reasons he is a good signing.

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1.) 09 Aug 2019 08:16:08
I agree. Really excited for the season ahead. Start with 3 points tomorrow and to see Zaha with his bottom lip out all game.


2.) 09 Aug 2019 08:20:35
Lost our best centre back and best midfielder and haven't replaced either, is the top and bottom of it.

{Ed025's Note - i do like your optimism swan, what about our new young striker from juve, how about our new powerhouse in gbamin, or our versatile midfield dynamo delph, or iwobi who created more chances than ozil for arsenal?, or our WC winning full back?....come on mate "where is the love"..


3.) 09 Aug 2019 08:23:20
Give him a chance he's a blue now. he's an good player just not given a chance at arsenal. Easy win tomorrow COYBs.


4.) 09 Aug 2019 08:23:50
I agree, he's very similar to Zaha, except obviously not got the same end product, but he is only 23 and is so fast and strong there is definite potential to improve. Also has got a first class attitude. I hope it works out for us, I think its better blowing double the price on Zaha who was not 100% on joining or bringing in a last minute unknown from abroard.


5.) 09 Aug 2019 08:43:22
Oh don't get me wrong I'm happy with Kean and Gbamin, don't rate Delph or Sidibe tbh but I am glad we got Sidibe as Coleman can't continue. I'm very happy with Kean and Gbamin. But when I see people acting like we're so much stronger now. If you look at our defence and midfield from last season and now, does it really look better or worse? I think miles worse in defence and I need to see more of Gbamin before I judge him, but is he and Delph better than Gueye? I just don't see it mate.

{Ed025's Note - the new season starts tomorrow swan and i have to say in full of optimism and excitement, yes we will miss the likes of gueye and zouma but what can you do if one wants to leave and the other wont be allowed to at this time because of chelsea,s transfer ban?, we move on and we move forward because there is still a lot of talent here and i just cant wait to see what father christmas has brought us, our presents will be unwrapped at selhurst park tomorrow hopefully mate..


6.) 09 Aug 2019 09:03:20
Come in boys, yes we lost some players, every club does, but unlike inthe past we have a chairman who has gone out and replaced them, we have signed some fantastic players, with no European football or ridiculous fees.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely nilsatis mate..


7.) 09 Aug 2019 09:47:14
Swan its all a matter of opinions in my opinion we lost our second best centre back and second best midfielder. Not as worried as you about the situation defensively.


8.) 09 Aug 2019 09:10:10
Gueye was a defensive midfielder who could tackle and work hard. However his passing let him down. Delph does all the above but can actually pass a ball. Their is a reason he was at Man City, the guy is a much better option.


9.) 09 Aug 2019 12:33:04
Geuye over the years and Considering Consistancy was the best DM in the league in my opinion. It was always going to be a blow to lose him but Gbamin looks a good replacement and Delph adds experience. Not replacing the hole left by Zouma could be very problematic.


10.) 09 Aug 2019 09:11:34
Hope so Ed, big season needed and hopefully we will have it.

{Ed025's Note - its the hope that kill you swan, but if we can start this season like we finished the last one and the new guys bed in quickly it could be a magical carpet ride mate..


 

 

 

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01 Nov 2019 07:29:56
Gueye is a huge miss but we were lucky to keep him for the 2nd half of last season so it was inevitable he would leave. Nobody can be blamed for that.
Gbamin is going to be a big difference maker in our midfield. His first game (s) he looked exceptional. But these injuries are just our luck. Get him fit and firing and i think our defensive woes will be behind us.

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31 Oct 2019 18:44:53
I think everyone needs to realise the situation we have at present and why we must give Silva more time.

We have gained a reputation as a club who constantly change manager. Sacking Silva now just makes us look even worse, when you think that he hasn't really done anything wrong.

1st season was an 8th place finish. 2nd season is only a quarter of the way through and he has got us into Carabao Cup Quarter Final. League form certainly looks dodgy but it's easy to argue that he has not yet been given a fair chance to turn it around.

I think to avoid negative press, you have to give him until Christmas and assess from there because if league form still stinks, then at least people will acknowledge that a change needed making. A Christmas change is not uncommon after all.

If we try for a new manager now, anybody with even a half decent reputation will swerve us because a cursory glance will show that they have to bring instant success or get sacked also. This leaves us appointing a 'journeyman' or unproven manager to fill the void and that's just destined to be another mistake.

To be clear, i do not think Silva is right for us! - but we really do need to be patient and realise the hesitancy in making a change now. We are a managerial laughing stock and need to change this perception in order to attract someone of high enough quality to take us where we crave.

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09 Oct 2019 17:36:08
Ok Charlie, never employ another ex England manager again regardless of how amazing they could be. Very intelligent thinking to rule people out because Allardyce was once a manager there.

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09 Oct 2019 16:54:55
Thats a shame, but i guess with a big international tournament on the horizon, it really isn't a surprise. More likely available next summer after the Euros?
I think my other big shout of someone who could do a great job is Marcelo Bielsa at Leeds. High quality manager and really have no idea why he took a job in the Championship.
Let's face facts though, Silva could well stay for the rest of the year. It only takes 3 or 4 good results to turn things around and this team is more than capable of that! I really wouldn't be surprised to see him finish the season with us, a mid table finish but adding a cup, he seems to be going all out for the Carabao judging by starting line-ups.

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20 Aug 2019 13:56:48
I just don't understand how you came to this conclusion. What exactly did you see last night that shows we are worse than Wolves and UTD?
Wolves have been vastly outplayed in large parts of both matches (Leics and UTD) . They do have some quality there and are capable of punishing a team out of nowhere, but on the whole they do not look like a team to fear.
Utd are looking decent enough and cannot be taken lightly, but also do not look like a team who can seriously challenge at the top. If a defense stay strong and eliminate counter attacks then Utd look like a team who will pick up a tonne of draws and not so many wins.
At this juncture, to think that we are so far behind those 2 teams either shows a deliberate attempt to slag off our club or a complete lack of reading a game.

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11 Nov 2019 23:38:35
How does Seamus struggle due to the form of Holgate? Possibly mean Sidibe?
I think Sidibe is turning into a very astute signing. Took a little time to get his spot but we saw the same with Digne last year replacing Baines - don't rush him into the team, allow him to settle and then make the position his to lose.
My worry would be whether Sidibe is now happy to consider a permanent move. It was pretty evident that he was unhappy not to be playing and i wonder whether he will now reject us due to that or if he accepts that he had to bide his time.

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06 Nov 2019 18:05:56
I'm very confused by you I'm afraid Uran.

You have been harping on for weeks that Simms should be playing in the first team and how disgraceful it is that he is being overlooked. Yet he is only getting 15 mins at the end of a match because you think Unsworth wants to bring him in slowly.

If he is not ready for a regular starting role with the under 23's then i have to wonder what your justification is for him to displace one of the current first teamers!?

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03 Nov 2019 16:29:47
Unless I'm being a dumbass, i'd say the Lukaku sale was pretty great value since Moyes left. Lookman, although i think could have commanded higher, went for a nice profit. How about Gueye?
Yes there are errors in our transfer dealings, but come on, we've played some blinders too!

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29 Oct 2019 19:25:09
Forgot to outline the most ridiculous of all statements. Wanting my team to always win is now deemed a 'prehistoric approach to supporting EFC in the modern era'.
Is the millennial snowflake supporting generation of the view that we should hope we lose games? No cup wins for Everton because we don't like the manager and would rather take failure?
I think I'll stick to the dinosaur view of wanting to win a trophy and go out trying to win every match regardless!

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29 Oct 2019 19:19:14
That is such a ridiculous statement. A cup quarter final equals prolongued misery. I really can't wait to see you crying your eyes out as we lift a trophy at Wembley.
Of course the league is thus far disappointing and no doubt a managerial change is needed at some point, but when the time is right. Saying you want us to lose just to achieve this is disrespectful and makes me question how worthy you are of supporting this amazing club.

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