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27 Aug 2021 22:56:05
Some interesting (Diaz, edouard) and depressing (Rondon) rumours flying around regarding who we may be looking to sign - however they all appear to be attacking players.
I know we could potentially do with some extra cover in that area but surely Rightback is a much more pressing area we should look to recruit first but not much mention of any options.
Any of the Ed’s know if we’ve got any interest in any right backs? Seeing Dalot from Utd may be available on loan with obligation to buy - we were linked with him last season any idea if we’d be in for him again?

Gingerdan

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the Patterson, Aarons options as you know. I am not aware of anything new.}


1.) 28 Aug 2021 08:57:27
Looks like it could be Maitland Niles from Arsenal on loan,
not a bad signing in my opinion. Would be happy with window if we got him, Diaz and Edouard.


2.) 28 Aug 2021 11:35:24
Thanks for the reply Ed, going to be an interesting few days ahead. Hopefully we can move some on and get some in to replace them. Time for Brands to earn his money.


3.) 28 Aug 2021 20:07:22
Personally think Rondon would be ok we want someone who will back up DCL Rondon is a handful and would not be to much of worry filling in for him it’s a cheap way of filing a gap that is not a priority, Kean never played or did King so what’s the point in spending money on a position that Rondon could do a job for 12 months.


 

 

26 Aug 2021 15:20:22
Any of the Ed’s know if any substance to moise kean back to juventus with us looking at McKennie coming the other way?
Cheers.

Gingerdan

{Ed025's Note - i cant see it dan mate..


 

 

09 Aug 2021 16:05:22
Just seen Atalanta have apparently enquired about Iwobi - not sure how true this is.

Any of the Ed’s know about it?

Gingerdan

1.) 09 Aug 2021 16:54:40
They are a sensible well run club in the past. Reckon click bait as also names one player from lots of other clubs. But you never know!


2.) 09 Aug 2021 17:24:13
Atlantis maybe😂😂.

{Ed025's Note - love it GB..


3.) 09 Aug 2021 17:32:15
I can’t understand why they’d want him, but let’s hope it’s true! I’d accept 10 million just to get rid and start again!


4.) 09 Aug 2021 17:49:08
Let him go for 10p and that would be a rip off 😂😂.


5.) 09 Aug 2021 18:46:02
I'll be honest, after Saturdays reality check, I've been rather down when it comes to anything Everton related.

But boy, did the article stating that Atalanta might be interested in Iwobi perk me up.


6.) 09 Aug 2021 18:55:54
If it is you got to think why.
A - they've lost there minds

B - they see a technically proficent player who may be being used in the wrong place, they think they can improve him and will bring something to there team. Cases papu gomez or mario pascilic

Dont get me wrong i'm no iwobi fan. but Atalanta are no mugs and don't do stuff on the spare of the moment.


7.) 09 Aug 2021 19:23:45
There’s a reason why we paid over 30 million for the lad. But it hasn’t worked out, so, they’re welcome to try and get a tune out of him.


8.) 09 Aug 2021 19:42:31
Looked like clickbait to me. Headline citing interest in multiple prem players to get clicks from fans of different clubs.
Hope it's true of course, another in the long list of bad signings. If this summer ended up being the clear out we so desperately need and not much coming in I could live with that - as long as we don't go down, would give us a chance for a proper look at whether youngsters are good enough and put us in a better position to have a positive window next summer.


9.) 09 Aug 2021 20:04:55
Atalanta are the smartest team in Europe when it comes to transfers. There’s a player in Iwobi, under the proper set-up, but we refuse to play half-decent football which doesn't suit his play. If it happens, they’ll be getting a good player.


10.) 10 Aug 2021 02:18:18
I am yet to see this player you speak of.

He is quite literally garbage. What is he good at? I can't name one strength of his. He is an awkward mover, has a brain the level of Barkley's and has no end product.

He is one of the worst signings we have made in the premier league. Around £35 million and he has scored 2 goals. The mind boggles how anyone tries/ wants to defend him.


11.) 10 Aug 2021 09:38:19
I would imagine he will be to expensive for them, i'm sure we would want to get a fair amount back.


12.) 10 Aug 2021 09:55:01
I remember when Dunc took over for a few games and we beat Chelsea at Goodison with ball boys taking turns to hug the big lad. I gave Iwobi man of the match. He was everywhere and never stopped running and had a massive grin on his face at the end having given everything.
So maybe it's about how he's used and whether the style of play suits him and Carlo just had other ideas. He's quick and strong and can actually beat defenders (although his final ball could be better) and he'll run all day. He probably needs to improve his positional play but that's something a good manager can sort. So I think there's a good player in there.


13.) 10 Aug 2021 13:17:28
Think it's the usual case of them asking around for loan players and us saying we'd rather sell.


 

 

07 Jun 2021 10:43:00
Hi there, was wondering if anyone knows if we have received or are due any compensation for Carlo leaving us mid-contract?

The club has been very quiet on his departure and have seen rumours that he had a clause in his contract he could leave for free if certain teams came in for him.

Cheers.

Gingerdan

{Ed025's Note - its very unclear at the moment dan, but im sure it will come out in the wash at some point mate..


1.) 07 Jun 2021 11:02:26
I had read he had a clause in his contract allowing him to move if clubs of a certain stature were to approach him.
Whether it relates to compensation I did not see.


2.) 07 Jun 2021 11:07:14
Fabrizio Romano said compensation package agreed and he's normally spot on with his info the cynic in me wonders if one of the clauses in his contract stated he could leave for a much lesser fee if we didn't achieve Europe (prob over thinking it) but looking at some of the tactics he played makes sense in my head.


 

 

03 Jan 2021 22:33:36
Any substance to the rumour PSG trying to arrange a permanent deal for Moise Kean for £31m?

Gingerdan

{Ed002's Note - As I explained there is no option and I am not aware of anything right now.}


1.) 03 Jan 2021 23:02:13
No worries Ed, thanks for the reply. Just saw it mentioned on sky sports website that they were looking to do a deal.


2.) 04 Jan 2021 00:49:09
They are looking to buy him now if he goes may open the door to sign zaha be good business if both happen.


3.) 04 Jan 2021 09:38:25
I'd be looking for more than 31 million though and we have chance of signing zaha even with Kean sale he cost to much fee and wages.


4.) 04 Jan 2021 12:05:16
If we get Zaha - would mean replacing entire midfield again in 3-4 years and no potential sell on
I think Zaha is no longer an option.


5.) 04 Jan 2021 13:39:05
We are always going to be replacing midfielders on a regular basis, because we don't buy young midfielders. So 3-4 years would be pretty good.


 

 

 

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22 Sep 2021 10:56:51
James Rodriguez has officially left.
Has signed for the club in Qatar.

Gingerdan

{Ed025's Note - at last some good news..


1.) 22 Sep 2021 11:07:19
Happy Christmas all, at last yessssssssssssssssssssssass.


2.) 22 Sep 2021 17:45:04
Yes he’s left for an undisclosed fee. Which basically means we paid them?.


3.) 22 Sep 2021 18:38:33
I think we will be more than happy to save the £10 million a year we were paying him,


4.) 22 Sep 2021 17:23:28
Ed02.reports saying he went for undisclosed fee. can you confirm? Thought it was only a loan.


5.) 22 Sep 2021 21:09:07
Must admit that I'm sorry that it didn't work out. I was really excited at what he might bring to the club. Having said all that, I've just been on the BBC website and watched his highlights in the Premier League. 38 seconds including intro.


6.) 23 Sep 2021 08:23:09
Sorry to about it not working out. Some having a go now at the likes of Rodrigues, Godfrey, Holgate etc! When not to long ago they were getting lauded. Rodrigues is no doubt a wonderful player but the Prem wasn't for him. Godfrey will come good again.


 

 

21 Sep 2021 22:02:11
Injuries haven’t helped but got a horrible feeling persisting with Rondon will be Rafa’s undoing if he’s not careful.

Really frustrating to have the youngsters like Simms on the bench and not to give them a go.

If they can make the bench then why not give them a go?

Gingerdan

1.) 21 Sep 2021 22:21:12
Agree Dan, Rondon well past his best. Simms is the future (apparently) , so why not play him?


2.) 21 Sep 2021 23:04:09
Thought Simms was coming back from injury? Plus Rondon needs the match fitness.


3.) 22 Sep 2021 06:39:16
If Simms coming back from injury when why is he on the bench.

The cups are our best chance of European football so why try and give a player match fitness in a game you must win?


4.) 22 Sep 2021 10:10:01
Thing with Rondon is he showed his fitness is not even high enough to be playing games to be getting match fit. He was so off the pace last night he shouldn't be anywhere near the squad. He drastically needs to improve his fitness and lose of some weight before he is considered again.


5.) 22 Sep 2021 21:24:42
With the squad we have Gingerdan, we’ll be looking at surviving the league, let alone a cup run… give the guys as much game time as you can to get them match fit for the next PL game. Think Simms ideas on the bench due to limited options.


6.) 21 Sep 2021 22:08:31
What is it with this club that overlooks the youngsters and buys old has beens
I think you could be right if he keeps on picking rondon
Seems like a strange one to me.


 

 

08 Sep 2021 20:25:07
Fingers crossed 2 international goals or more was one of the clauses in Moise Keans loan contract.

Gingerdan

 

 

04 Sep 2021 15:03:17
Don’t you just love the international break.

All of us sitting back and enjoying the 7pts from 3 games we’ve got, the progression to the next round of the cup and the much better performances we have seen in these 4 games and a manager who actually wants to be at the club and see it succeed.

But then this is Everton so clearly fans are not going to do the above and instead look at something to moan about 🤦‍♂️.

Gingerdan

1.) 04 Sep 2021 16:02:58
Well said, gingerdan. Why can't people be happy with a good start to the season rather than rip into certain people at the club?


2.) 04 Sep 2021 16:27:55
It’s what some Everton fans like to do mate, good post Gingerdan.


3.) 04 Sep 2021 16:46:40
It's the usual suspects out I force again. Just enjoy the ride.


4.) 04 Sep 2021 17:44:52
It's OK to question why we are in an ffp mess, just as its OK to be happy we have had a decent start to the season. I myself sit in both camps.


5.) 04 Sep 2021 19:11:34
True, efcone, but it's blatantly obvious as to why we're in a mess with ffp. At least we are attempting to right the wrongs.


6.) 05 Sep 2021 00:53:59
We are attempting to right the wrongs when we have no other choice. Why are you happy we didn't try and right them years ago as every other 'WELL RUN' club has?

Bravo for finally facing facts.


7.) 05 Sep 2021 08:09:56
All the so called top 6 teams owners take out large sums of money every year to line their pockets.
City and Leicester have managed to break into that 6 and good on them.
That is what Farhad is trying to do and good on him for trying. The more that can break the stronghold the more of a level playing field we will all have to play on.
The Premier league P/ S and FFP hasn't changed in years despite the costs of players, wages and inflation rocketing but it still remains 105 million. That can't be right can it?
Farhad is putting money into our club to make it successful and to try and win things and if that's what he wants to do then let him.


8.) 05 Sep 2021 11:33:12
BW, you assume wrong, mate. I've known the FACTS for a couple of seasons, the way we were spending wasn't sustainable. So, I'm happy now as it is being addressed rather than left. I would have been happy if the gamble had paid off, like most fans. No point in me repeating smits reply but he makes a good point over your 'well run' clubs.


 

 

31 Aug 2021 18:06:39
Think Rafa has misunderstood something regarding the left back situation in allowing Nkounkou to go out on loan.

Think he must have only heard part of what was said about Delph.

What he must of heard of the conversation was “Delph is leftback”

When actually what the conversation was “Delph is left back in the treatment room on match days”.

Gingerdan

1.) 31 Aug 2021 19:44:57
I would not be surprised if he’s been released on loan to ensure he has more playing and development time rather than sit on the bench and to assist in relaxing the wage bill because other signings are pending.


 

 

 

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12 Sep 2021 10:35:23
Was he genuinely injured with the games he missed? I’m not so sure.
However when we signed him was not expecting him to start every game as wasn’t sure he’d suit the physicality of the league.
He did well when he played but would have hoped for more last season from him.
If he’s fit then he has to earn a place in match day team on merit and be worthy of replacing one of the current match day team.
If he stays fit and puts the effort in he could be a very good addition to team this season - however emphasis on could.

Gingerdan

 

 

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31 Aug 2021 15:09:00
Not sure where you’ve been looking but There’s loads of rumour Bluetoff.
Ins:
Maitland-niles
Rondon
Diaz
Patterson
Jebbison
Etc.

Outs:
Rodriguez
Nkounkou
Gomes
Branthwaite

Whether any of these deals happen is another matter though.

Gingerdan

 

 

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31 Aug 2021 09:53:44
All complicated these loans with criteria’s involved.
Hopefully the criteria is met and we don’t see him again until we’re playing juventus in the champions league next season - 😂
Shame it never worked out with us, but as Ed002 said it was only as a stepping stone.
Looks like the deal is not as bad as we all first thought.
Also gets a wage off the books as well as a player out of the club who doesn’t want to be with us.

Gingerdan

 

 

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31 Aug 2021 09:17:50
Efcone how would he be available on a free? Surely as he signed a 5yr contract with us and if he doesn’t meet the criteria in the loan he’d be back to us as would still have 1yr left on the 5yr contract he signed with us?

Gingerdan

 

 

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29 Aug 2021 23:25:11
His move to us as ed002 told us previously was a stepping stone Pauly. Unfortunately looks like he fell in the river!

Whilst the club were hoping for him to do well and improve which would have enabled us to profit from his purchase and future sale unfortunately it never worked out that way.

I think it was a fair risk to take by the club as he was touted as being the next big thing etc. Just a shame he never showed it for us and I don’t think the C.V. has helped regarding us being able to sell him.

Quite interesting that PSG with all their money didn’t want to purchase him after he did well with them - that in itself suggests there could be some potential issues with him and maybe he’s not as great as everyone originally thought he would be.

Gingerdan

 

 

 

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28 Sep 2021 22:02:37
I like Ramsey as a player but agree with Nick, too injury prone and don’t actually think suits the style of play Rafa is instilling.

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28 Sep 2021 17:52:24
TD never said anything about the odds.

I responded to sobs post where he’d used a percentage analogy, odds not mentioned by either of us.

The smaller the %chance of something happening means it’s harder to achieve

If odds smaller agree that would suggest easier.

Gingerdan

 

 

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28 Sep 2021 14:31:07
I’m not sure you’re getting what I’m saying and to say 35% chance of getting European football via the league is way too simplistic at looking at it.

It would be that percentage if all teams were equal however they’re not.

We are way off city, Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool so take them 4 teams out and that would also realistically be 4 European places gone.

So now it’s 16 teams for 3 places which would be 18.75% .

However that again over simplifies it as that doesn’t take any of the strength of the squads into account or injuries etc. it assumes all equal over the season which is never the case.

Winning a cup would get European football, maybe even getting to the final may even do it depending on who wins league etc.

Realistically winning 6 games gets you to the final if come in at round 3. The draw could be favourable and could avoid all top teams until final.

I can’t remember a season we’ve genuinely gone and tried to win a cup we seem to try and concentrate on the league however that’s not done is many favours in qualifying for Europe.

Genuinely think if we put out our strongest team in all our cup games we could actually get to a final, however we rarely do this.

We all want European football for the club and just hope we manage to get it, be it either a cup or league position that gets it for us.

Gingerdan

 

 

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28 Sep 2021 10:28:30
Sorry sobs but think wining a cup is best chance of Europe.

Only have to win 6 games. Also with the draw you could potentially miss out on any of the top teams with the draw.

Finishing top 7 is much harder as got to be consistent over 38 games.

Also you’ve got city, Liverpool, Utd and Chelsea who will more than likely be top 4 so then competing with the likes of West Ham, arsenal, spurs, Leicester and currently Brighton and any other team that does well for only 3 places.

The betting odds may be shorter on finishing top 7 but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s easier.

Would love us to finish in the top 7 and get European football but think with our squad it will be a challenge as a few more injuries and could be in big trouble.

If we’re still up and around the top 7 cone Christmas then let’s hope we invest wisely and push on for finishing top 7.

Gingerdan

 

 

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26 Sep 2021 11:02:54
All well and good him saying it but.

However until he actually starts doing it is a different matter - a 5 minute cameo does not count in my opinion .

Gingerdan