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13 Oct 2020 12:16:02
Just read an article saying PSG have an option to buy Moise Kean for £18m at the end of his loan.
Seems like a small amount if he does actually achieve what everyone hoped for him and doesn't cover our original outlay on him.
Doesn't seem like something Brands would do.
Any substance to this or just nonsense reporting?


{Ed002's Note - There is an option at €20M at the end of this season and it far from covers the money Everton spent on the player. The lesson is (as explained when he joined for perhaps double his worth), don't let the owner make decisions on the advice of a third-party, don't sign players who don't want to join the club, and be careful of signing players who will be using the club as no more than a stepping stone.}

1.) 13 Oct 2020 13:29:31
Cheers Ed, appreciate the reply. Either way we’ve got our fingers burned on this deal, he excels we lose him for £18m he is poor and we’re stuck with him.

Thankfully it appears from most recent transfers that moshiri Is finally letting Brands do the job he is paid to do and not having third party advisor interference.

Expensive lesson for Moshiri - let’s hope he’s learned from it.

{Ed002's Note - I would agree - this summer looks far more encouraging.}

2.) 13 Oct 2020 13:50:31
Makes sense that he was an advisors signing and not a Brands signing. I suppose its quite difficult to try to stop an owner wanting to buy a specific player. let's hope he has learnt from his mistakes and let's the qualified people he brought in, do their jobs without the outside interference of advisors.

{Ed002's Note - I understand he has stepped back this summer - else I am sure Brands would need to consider his future.}

3.) 13 Oct 2020 15:55:05
As long as those up top learn from the deal, it’s onwards and upwards. No sense in keeping anyone at the club who doesn’t want to be there.

4.) 14 Oct 2020 09:45:37
On the topic of Brands’ future, isn't his contract up this Summer? Or is it different because he’s on the board?



30 Aug 2020 16:03:40
So apparently Allan included in Napoli squad today and his agent has come out and said no personal terms agreed.
Not looking like a straightforward transfer.


1.) 30 Aug 2020 17:06:01
Mate it's done and dusted terms agreed ages ago.

2.) 30 Aug 2020 18:32:15
Hope so Paul, but agent making some noises to the contrary regards personal terms.

Will wait till we see him in an Everton shirt before get too excited about him signing.

3.) 30 Aug 2020 20:38:20
Looks like the Agent is making noise as all that is left to agree on is the agents fee.

4.) 30 Aug 2020 23:36:31
Am sure Everton being Everton we will find a way to **** it up 👌🏼.

{Ed0666's Note - you mean buy signing joe Allan

5.) 31 Aug 2020 01:25:30
Yer an Chris brunt instead of James Rodriguez. ever the pessimist 👌.

6.) 31 Aug 2020 08:13:13
And there are reports saying he’s held his farewell lunch with players and staff, news outlets have got to get your attention and clicks somehow they’ll say what they want to get you looking.



30 Aug 2020 11:25:05
Ed was wondering if you were aware of how Everton are going to fund the supposed imminent arrivals of Allan and Rodriguez? As fans we’ve been under the impression money is tight so the arrival of these 2 would maybe suggest there’s a few departures lined up to balance the books, any ideas? Cheers.


{Ed002's Note - Everton are looking to sell players and critically reduce the crippling wage bill.}

1.) 30 Aug 2020 12:33:17
ED02 is there any interest in any of our players as I can't see any of them willing to take a wage cut to move which will make it very hard to sell them.

{Ed002's Note - I provided a detailed list - it should be easy to find if you search on something obscure like "Broadhead".}

2.) 30 Aug 2020 12:37:16
Sorry Ed - have you any idea on how they may actually achieve that? We’re aware of players not being part of the clubs plans going forward but is there any interest in these players or will we possibly have to move on one of our more saleable assets (Digne, Richarlison or Holgate) to achieve some sort of financial parity?

{Ed002's Note - Players will need to be sold - there is 5 weeks of Transfer Window left for this to happen.}

3.) 30 Aug 2020 12:49:37
Bringing in players and hoping we sell others seems like a risky strategy.

4.) 30 Aug 2020 14:20:06
Brands doesn’t strike me as a risk taker. But there has to be some risk in football to be fair. I’d imagine there’s a plan for departures.

5.) 31 Aug 2020 08:12:30
Toffee Ace - how can you justify that comment.
I’m not having a go but he signed iwobi, Delph, Bernard, Keane, to name a few.
I think we have been huge risk takers since he came - we nearly paid miles over the odds for Zaha also
Rodriguez is also a huge risk

I think Brands is a massive risk taker.
- I also think if his signings continue this year as last few years he will be gone.

6.) 31 Aug 2020 10:23:24
Apparently kean To juve swap with Ramsey don’t know how true where would Ramsey fit in if was true.

{Ed002's Note - Can he play LW?}



28 Aug 2020 14:17:45
Rumours Watford want a player on loan as part of the deal for doucore.
Is this an opportunity for Tom Davies?
Could be a win win for us for a change, get a player we want to improve the team and gives Tom the chance to get regular game time and see if he can improve which benefits us also.


{Ed002's Note - The mistake would be to let them have a player who the club want to move on. A youngster like TD, Braithwaite or Gibson would be ideal experience.}

1.) 28 Aug 2020 14:34:56
Agree Ed, hopefully the club offer them Davies or Gibson I loan.
Would like to keep Branthwaite as he showed at end of last season he can step up and provides us good cover in defence with Holgate, Keane and Mina. May not have to worry so much about buying a centre back if money is an issue by keeping him in first team squad for this season.

2.) 28 Aug 2020 15:21:37
Do you not think Branthwaite might be the better one to loan out to gain more experience on loan than as a backup this season?

3.) 28 Aug 2020 15:48:07
Agreed - Davies ideally, but either Gibson, Braithwaite or perhaps Ellis Simms. Get it done - Dacoure is exactly what we need in the middle of the park.

4.) 28 Aug 2020 15:55:23
To be fair to Gibson he hasn’t had the opportunity to play in the first team yet, apart from the half against Blackpool. Think it would be good for him to be kept in and around the first team squad now, give Carlo Tim to get a good look at him.
Would make more sense to use Branthwaite given his age and lack of experience. Lad shouldn’t be rushed into the team right now, needs time.
As for Tom, well that would either make him or break him, and if nothing else it would take him out the spotlight for a while. Makes perfect sense.
Agree not a player we are looking to sell, that is of no real benefit to us.

5.) 28 Aug 2020 17:40:22
I'd like them to have Gibson and Tom Davis. Gibson needs gametime and Davis needs to grow as a player, championship is ideal for both.

6.) 28 Aug 2020 17:54:16
Coukd we not offer them 2 players, Tom and Gibson or Braithwaite.
It woukd benefit us, might push the deal over the line, or would it be a case of wages for Watford, not wanting to pay both?

7.) 28 Aug 2020 19:20:08
Just give them Siggy and 10m, jobs a gooden.



02 Aug 2020 12:34:22
Any substance to the rumours of Everton having an interest in Matty Longstaff from Newcastle?
Apparently out of contract now and would be available provided we pay the development fee that Newcastle would be entitled to.
With his age and possible low fee would possibly be the sort of player Brands would choose.


{Ed002's Note - Matty Longstaff (DM/CM) Schalke are looking to the Premier League for recruits this season and have approached his agent some months ago to enquire as to availability and what sort of deal he would be looking for. Previous interest of Manchester United has gone but David Moyes is keen to take him to West Ham whilst Newcastle are offering him a new deal and the opportunity to continue training with the club. I am not aware of any approach by Everton at this time.}

1.) 02 Aug 2020 12:57:03
Thanks for the reply Ed.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}




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22 Oct 2020 12:41:30
Just read that Rodriguez is out for the Southampton game due to the knock he had with van djick (Liverpool echo) .
He's going to be a bigger miss than Richarlison, will be interesting to see if those who get picked to replace them on Sunday are up to it.
First proper test of our squad.


1.) 22 Oct 2020 13:26:09
I wonder when the media are going to start talking about Van Dijk injuring James 🤔.

2.) 22 Oct 2020 14:52:08
Can we have a book of condolences.

3.) 22 Oct 2020 15:14:11
Kenny Keane Mina/ Godfrey Digne
Iwobi Decore Bernard

4.) 22 Oct 2020 17:06:39
Dropping Gomes?

5.) 22 Oct 2020 19:02:06
Yeah - I thought about that - maybe keep him as too many changes. I just thought he could do with a rest.
I like him but he was poor in derby.

I found it hard to find shape of midfield with James and richi out

Is Gomes in Portugal squad?

6.) 23 Oct 2020 09:32:13
Kenny also out injured so we’ll probably see Godfrey continue at rightback.
Godfrey, Keane, mina, Digne
Iwobi, Allan, Doucore, Nkounkou/ Gordon



27 Sep 2020 15:25:20
Good to see the women's team getting in on the action with a good win over Chelsea and now into the semi final of the FA cup 👏.




17 Sep 2020 12:15:12
With talk of Moise off and money tight would it not be wise to promote Ellis Simms to the first team rather than spending more money this window?

I know we'd all love a top class striker but with financial fair play we won't be able to afford a really decent one so why not give Ellis a chance and look at buying a new striker next season if we still need one?


1.) 17 Sep 2020 13:09:26
Totally agree Ginger let’s give the lad a chance, if it doesn’t work we can play Richarlison upfront and Gordon on the left.

2.) 17 Sep 2020 12:48:18
Anyone coming in is going to have to be 3rd choice so getting a quality striker is tough. Is Simms ready? I don't think so.
Kean for as bad as he looks has scored 1 in 2 everytime he's started. Maybe just stick with him for another season, hope he bags a few and make a tidy profit on him next summer.

3.) 17 Sep 2020 12:49:38
I would. Surely he deserves a chance.
It will be a long season for DCL and Richarlison if nobody else brought in.
Need x4 - Richarlison, DCL, Ellis - I thought Callum Wilson would have been an option and was suprised we were not bidding. He might be this years Danny Ings.

Cant see any benefit of changing our system with one up front and Sigurtson sitting behind just to give them a rest - but our transfer policy has caught up with us

I would have liked to have seen Ellis and Gibson yesterday - Gibson ? What’s going on with him? - surely if he is good enough we don’t need a centre half but coaches mustn’t fancy him.

4.) 17 Sep 2020 14:35:09
If Simms was ready he'd be in already. And Moise needs get out of our club ASAP.
Not sure what that debacle was after he finally scored his penalty. No. Smile, ignoring Gordon, general sulk.
If I was Gordon, I'd have pulled his armpit hair and stood on his toes, rude beyond belief.

5.) 17 Sep 2020 23:53:19
Heart is not in it, playing for Everton, we need to offload in my opinion, and either give Simms a chance, or bring another striker in.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think he wants to be here bignev, let him go home i say mate..



05 Sep 2020 10:35:32
Allan signing just announced - hopefully the other 2 to follow.


1.) 05 Sep 2020 10:56:16
You can call me 'AL', no need to get into a Garfunkle about it.

2.) 05 Sep 2020 11:10:06
Oh dear Bill.
Great news though, now let's pray he doesn't get injured.

3.) 05 Sep 2020 11:55:59
Strictly speaking it was Paul Simon who sang you can call me Al. Sorry bill for being picky 😂.

4.) 05 Sep 2020 12:36:20
Yeah but Paul Simon didn't fit Toffee. I am trying to tell jokes here! LOL.

5.) 05 Sep 2020 14:45:56
Fair point bill. I found it funny. I’m just one of those music nerds that you get annoyed with in the pub quiz 🙄😂.

6.) 06 Sep 2020 00:24:16
Strictly speaking this is a football banter site, not a pub quiz 😬

Sorry couldn't resist.



04 Sep 2020 15:08:02
Ed with the premier league cancelling the £500+million deal with Chinese broadcasters will this adversely affect teams finances and will it have an implication for teams in respect to ffp as I’d assume some of that revenue would may have been put towards balancing books etc.?


{Ed002's Note - It depends when the contract is re-let - and it will be.}

1.) 04 Sep 2020 16:31:31
Ok cheers for reply.




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22 Oct 2020 18:00:04
I think it would be madness not to continue with Brands, as ed002 has previously mentioned there was interference in transfers from a third party. So I’m not sure how much we can judge him on transfers at the start of his tenure.

That interference has apparently gone away and now we are seeing what he is capable of and I’ve been impressed.

He’s moved several on. Found two very good young talents for little money in branthwaite and Nkounkou.
And also worked with Carlo to get his key players in.

We are finally moving in the right direction and in my opinion would be a backwards step not to keep him on.




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15 Oct 2020 14:57:38
I can’t see us doing any incoming business. Carlo already said he wants to trim squad. I know we think need cover up top but we’ve got Ellis Simms as an option and Tosun back from injury in a couple of months.

Hopefully we manage to move a few out tomorrow.




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13 Oct 2020 13:29:31
Cheers Ed, appreciate the reply. Either way we’ve got our fingers burned on this deal, he excels we lose him for £18m he is poor and we’re stuck with him.

Thankfully it appears from most recent transfers that moshiri Is finally letting Brands do the job he is paid to do and not having third party advisor interference.

Expensive lesson for Moshiri - let’s hope he’s learned from it.


{Ed002's Note - I would agree - this summer looks far more encouraging.}



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05 Oct 2020 19:13:50
Why are we moaning about players we haven’t got?
We’ve had a fantastic window.
Even if we get a player that may not be first choice for their club doesn’t mean Carlo and his team won’t improve them to become first choice for us.
Let’s wait and see before we moan.


{Ed025's Note - im with you dan, i dont think any evertonian has much to moan about at the moment mate..



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05 Oct 2020 19:11:35
I think Tosun will do well for us now we have some quality in midfield to provide him some service.
Looking forward to his return from injury.





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23 Oct 2020 20:25:13
Interesting to see a reds perspective, unsurprisingly biased in their favour.
Totally agree we were lucky with the VAR decisions.
However your criticism of James seems a little over the top going on about James rolling around on the floor being embarrassing when you’d have sworn mane had been decapitated by Gomes when he didn’t actually touch him and Robertson spent so long rolling around when Mina pushed him to avoid the ref Looking at the way he kicked out at Allan.
Also to see nothing in the tackles Virgil made prior to his injury is laughable - he was clearly trying to make a statement and mark in the game and if had been later in would probably have had a yellow for at least one of them.
Hopefully he makes a swift recovery from his injury - never nice to see a player injured.




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23 Oct 2020 09:32:13
Kenny also out injured so we’ll probably see Godfrey continue at rightback.
Godfrey, Keane, mina, Digne
Iwobi, Allan, Doucore, Nkounkou/ Gordon




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19 Oct 2020 17:53:38
Agree howie, completely ridiculous.

Can’t imagine all the Liverpool fans were calling for retrospective action for the horror tackle van djick made on dries martens.

Nobody wants to see a player injured unfortunately in a contact sport it can happen. Hopefully he makes a speedy and full recovery.




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19 Oct 2020 09:35:41
Totally agree swinners.
Whilst it’s unfortunate Virgil suffered the injury it was no way intentional from Pickford.
There were numerous bad fouls committed by Liverpool players Virgil on James and DCL, mane on mina, Robertson on Allan - but none of those being discussed.

Unfortunately injuries are part and parcel of the game and think the Liverpool fans should move on as they’re just being embarrassing now.

We lost Gomes to a horror tackle from Son and he then had his red card rescinded - can’t remember any of our fans petitioning parliament or trying to organise a march.

It’s frustrating to lose a player through an injury caused by another player but no point whinging about it.

Hopefully they don’t try and seek some kind of retribution in the Derby at Anfield.




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18 Oct 2020 09:57:07
Sorry sobs but how was Pickford poor yesterday?
He made some outstanding saves and actually kept us in the match - we’d have lost that game without his saves.

He’s been poor in other matches but wouldn’t say that was the case yesterday- think it’s becoming far to easy to use him as a scapegoat.