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07 Jun 2021 10:43:00
Hi there, was wondering if anyone knows if we have received or are due any compensation for Carlo leaving us mid-contract?

The club has been very quiet on his departure and have seen rumours that he had a clause in his contract he could leave for free if certain teams came in for him.

Cheers.

Gingerdan

{Ed025's Note - its very unclear at the moment dan, but im sure it will come out in the wash at some point mate..


1.) 07 Jun 2021 11:02:26
I had read he had a clause in his contract allowing him to move if clubs of a certain stature were to approach him.
Whether it relates to compensation I did not see.


2.) 07 Jun 2021 11:07:14
Fabrizio Romano said compensation package agreed and he's normally spot on with his info the cynic in me wonders if one of the clauses in his contract stated he could leave for a much lesser fee if we didn't achieve Europe (prob over thinking it) but looking at some of the tactics he played makes sense in my head.


 

 

03 Jan 2021 22:33:36
Any substance to the rumour PSG trying to arrange a permanent deal for Moise Kean for £31m?

Gingerdan

{Ed002's Note - As I explained there is no option and I am not aware of anything right now.}


1.) 03 Jan 2021 23:02:13
No worries Ed, thanks for the reply. Just saw it mentioned on sky sports website that they were looking to do a deal.


2.) 04 Jan 2021 00:49:09
They are looking to buy him now if he goes may open the door to sign zaha be good business if both happen.


3.) 04 Jan 2021 09:38:25
I'd be looking for more than 31 million though and we have chance of signing zaha even with Kean sale he cost to much fee and wages.


4.) 04 Jan 2021 12:05:16
If we get Zaha - would mean replacing entire midfield again in 3-4 years and no potential sell on
I think Zaha is no longer an option.


5.) 04 Jan 2021 13:39:05
We are always going to be replacing midfielders on a regular basis, because we don't buy young midfielders. So 3-4 years would be pretty good.


 

 

13 Oct 2020 12:16:02
Just read an article saying PSG have an option to buy Moise Kean for £18m at the end of his loan.
Seems like a small amount if he does actually achieve what everyone hoped for him and doesn't cover our original outlay on him.
Doesn't seem like something Brands would do.
Any substance to this or just nonsense reporting?

Gingerdan

{Ed002's Note - There is an option at €20M at the end of this season and it far from covers the money Everton spent on the player. The lesson is (as explained when he joined for perhaps double his worth), don't let the owner make decisions on the advice of a third-party, don't sign players who don't want to join the club, and be careful of signing players who will be using the club as no more than a stepping stone.}


1.) 13 Oct 2020 13:29:31
Cheers Ed, appreciate the reply. Either way we’ve got our fingers burned on this deal, he excels we lose him for £18m he is poor and we’re stuck with him.

Thankfully it appears from most recent transfers that moshiri Is finally letting Brands do the job he is paid to do and not having third party advisor interference.

Expensive lesson for Moshiri - let’s hope he’s learned from it.

{Ed002's Note - I would agree - this summer looks far more encouraging.}


2.) 13 Oct 2020 13:50:31
Makes sense that he was an advisors signing and not a Brands signing. I suppose its quite difficult to try to stop an owner wanting to buy a specific player. let's hope he has learnt from his mistakes and let's the qualified people he brought in, do their jobs without the outside interference of advisors.

{Ed002's Note - I understand he has stepped back this summer - else I am sure Brands would need to consider his future.}


3.) 13 Oct 2020 15:55:05
As long as those up top learn from the deal, it’s onwards and upwards. No sense in keeping anyone at the club who doesn’t want to be there.


4.) 14 Oct 2020 09:45:37
On the topic of Brands’ future, isn't his contract up this Summer? Or is it different because he’s on the board?


 

 

30 Aug 2020 16:03:40
So apparently Allan included in Napoli squad today and his agent has come out and said no personal terms agreed.
Not looking like a straightforward transfer.

Gingerdan

1.) 30 Aug 2020 17:06:01
Mate it's done and dusted terms agreed ages ago.


2.) 30 Aug 2020 18:32:15
Hope so Paul, but agent making some noises to the contrary regards personal terms.

Will wait till we see him in an Everton shirt before get too excited about him signing.


3.) 30 Aug 2020 20:38:20
Looks like the Agent is making noise as all that is left to agree on is the agents fee.


4.) 30 Aug 2020 23:36:31
Am sure Everton being Everton we will find a way to **** it up 👌🏼.

{Ed0666's Note - you mean buy signing joe Allan


5.) 31 Aug 2020 01:25:30
Yer an Chris brunt instead of James Rodriguez. ever the pessimist 👌.


6.) 31 Aug 2020 08:13:13
And there are reports saying he’s held his farewell lunch with players and staff, news outlets have got to get your attention and clicks somehow they’ll say what they want to get you looking.


 

 

30 Aug 2020 11:25:05
Ed was wondering if you were aware of how Everton are going to fund the supposed imminent arrivals of Allan and Rodriguez? As fans we’ve been under the impression money is tight so the arrival of these 2 would maybe suggest there’s a few departures lined up to balance the books, any ideas? Cheers.

Gingerdan

{Ed002's Note - Everton are looking to sell players and critically reduce the crippling wage bill.}


1.) 30 Aug 2020 12:33:17
ED02 is there any interest in any of our players as I can't see any of them willing to take a wage cut to move which will make it very hard to sell them.

{Ed002's Note - I provided a detailed list - it should be easy to find if you search on something obscure like "Broadhead".}


2.) 30 Aug 2020 12:37:16
Sorry Ed - have you any idea on how they may actually achieve that? We’re aware of players not being part of the clubs plans going forward but is there any interest in these players or will we possibly have to move on one of our more saleable assets (Digne, Richarlison or Holgate) to achieve some sort of financial parity?

{Ed002's Note - Players will need to be sold - there is 5 weeks of Transfer Window left for this to happen.}


3.) 30 Aug 2020 12:49:37
Bringing in players and hoping we sell others seems like a risky strategy.


4.) 30 Aug 2020 14:20:06
Brands doesn’t strike me as a risk taker. But there has to be some risk in football to be fair. I’d imagine there’s a plan for departures.


5.) 31 Aug 2020 08:12:30
Toffee Ace - how can you justify that comment.
I’m not having a go but he signed iwobi, Delph, Bernard, Keane, to name a few.
I think we have been huge risk takers since he came - we nearly paid miles over the odds for Zaha also
Rodriguez is also a huge risk

I think Brands is a massive risk taker.
- I also think if his signings continue this year as last few years he will be gone.


6.) 31 Aug 2020 10:23:24
Apparently kean To juve swap with Ramsey don’t know how true where would Ramsey fit in if was true.

{Ed002's Note - Can he play LW?}


 

 

 

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15 Jun 2021 09:17:52
How dare the club not tell us who the 40 linked managers are.

How dare they don’t come out and respond to every rumour regarding who is linked

How dare they don’t ask us all individually who we want appointed.

How dare they don’t stop the managerial search to do this.

How dare they don’t discuss all our transfer targets with us.

How dare they don’t operate like all the other premier league clubs - oh hang on 😂

Whilst the delay in appointing a manager is frustrating for some I think what some fans expect is completely unrealistic.

We are operating like all the other clubs in the league - no faster or slower, no more or less info than other clubs.

The issue is because we only focus on Everton - I’m sure majority of spurs and place fans are feeling the same about their managerial hunt - neither of those teams have come out and said who is and isn’t in the running.

Think we just need to relax, leave the club do the business and us as fans support whomever they appoint.

We’re supporters of the club Everton we don’t support Everton because of who the manager of Everton is.

Gingerdan

{Ed025's Note - some really good points there dan..


1.) 15 Jun 2021 10:58:08
I've said it before Dan. You are of the opinion that Everton are doing a good job in keeping it's fans informed on the manager search. I don't and it's fine that we disagree

Crystal Palace said they had stopped negotiations with Nuno. Spurs said that had stopped negotiations with Conte. They say they are now in final negotiations with Fonsecca

Where have we shown the same transparency? But please don't tell me that they are too busy to be bothered to keep their fans informed. That's insulting

Please. You keep your view and I'll keep mine.


2.) 15 Jun 2021 11:44:04
Dan

I happen to agree with over 90% of your posts but I'm frustrated as I feel Everton is acting like a leaf in a storm. We're flapping in whatever direction the wind is blowing at any particular moment

What is Everton's Mission Statement? What do we want to known for on a football basis, what is it we would look for in our manager, his back up team and the players

I'm frustrated that I don't see anything like a unified vision by the management at Everton. We seem divided into 3-4 factions with different views. Moshiri needs to come out with a statement, agreed to by the other directors, and then they need to start acting on it TOGETHER.

The manager search is just one example of disjointed management. There was no need for 40 CV's to be dumped on Brands desk. Even now the profiles of managers we are supposed to be looking at is all over the place and I just don't think we look very good. Yes, we all want the best manager for our club but I have little faith that we have an agreed picture of what that manager should be like

Please - let's not fall out because of this. It's just opinions from both of us - without all the facts.


3.) 15 Jun 2021 11:44:25
I don’t think I’ve ever said that the club are doing a good job in keeping the fans informed.

My view is what does it matter if informed or not?

I’m still going to support the club.

I have my preferred managerial choices but am fully aware that the club isn’t going to appoint who I want. They will appoint who they feel appropriate to the position. They don’t need my approval for that. They also don’t need to spoon feed the fans on who might or might not be in the running.

I support Everton football club whichever manager they appoint - it doesn’t matter.


4.) 15 Jun 2021 11:53:26
How date Gingerdan come on here and make some valid points. Oh wait a minute 😂😂.


5.) 15 Jun 2021 11:56:47
I’d also like to add I have seen no official statement from either spurs or Crystal Palace relating to their managerial hunt.

I’ve seen sky and others report Crystal Palace pulled out of deal for Nuno - but nothing official from Crystal Palace

I’ve also seen sky and others report that Spurs not going to appoint Conte - again nothing official from spurs regarding this.

I’ve also seen reports Fonseca likely to be new Spurs manager - however nothing official from Spurs.

There are rumours all over the place regarding managers but the only official announcements clubs ever give are when they actually appoint their manager.

If I have missed official statements from Palace and Spurs regarding who they are or aren’t interested in then I apologise, but I don’t think I have.

I think they’re being as transparent as Everton are.


6.) 15 Jun 2021 12:11:40
It might be frustrating that the fans aren't kept in the loop over the new manager but it's not a major issue. Some of us will remember the days of when the first time us fans found out about a signing or manager was when the club announced them. Obviously, modern day football relies on the drama of it all. The rags get involved, websites run with stories that are wide of the mark or just down right lazy journalism. Interest is drummed up for betting sites to make their quid etc etc.
Is it taking too long to appoint a manager? Probably, but only because us fans want to know the direction the club is taking, we're not the most patient people in the world! But I'd rather they took their time to appoint the right man for the job. None of us want to be in this position again a year down the line, we've been here too many times since moshiri took over.
I don't want us to be shouting from the rooftops who is having talks or expected to take over until it's done, that way no other team can come in at the 11th hour and rob our target.


7.) 15 Jun 2021 12:12:03
Bw not going to fall out - it’s good to have differing opinions.

I agree with you on your point regarding identity. We haven’t had an identity since the dogs of war days.

However I don’t think it’s as simple as coming out with a statement as to say what we want to achieve and what style we want.

If the club do that and then can’t get an appropriate manager to fulfil that identity what happens then?

We also have to deal with the issue of the players we currently have - if the identity is to be a high tempo pressing team - we clearly haven’t got the players to achieve that. If we want to be known as the team who play crab (sideways) football team then we’re sorted 😂

We all want the team to do well, we all want European football and I think we all realise it isn’t going to happen overnight.

We’re all frustrated at the amount of false dawns we’ve had - 6 managers since Martinez left in 2016 hasn’t helped, we need stability.

I just hope that whomever we appoint is given time to develop their own style which we as fans can embrace and hopefully achieve our European dreams
.


8.) 15 Jun 2021 12:48:58
The likes of Conte; if hired would be off like a shot if something better comes along. Ancelloti was 5th choice hence his love Everton rhetoric, didn't think he had a sniff.


9.) 15 Jun 2021 13:26:56
I agree it can't happen overnight Dan but I just wish I could be more confident that we have an objective that the whole management is working towards
Rightly or wrongly Spurs have Levy, Palace have Parish. Who is making our decisions? It seems like it's Moshiri, or Kenwright or Brands or whoever else is shouting the loudest.


10.) 15 Jun 2021 16:02:16
I think it's Moshiri and A. N. Other making the decisions. I still think that it's his train set and he won't let anyone else play with it.


11.) 15 Jun 2021 16:18:03
GingerDan you're absolutely correct - 2 other clubs that are also in total disarray are eating into the summer with no manager in place and they too won't be able to make any plans over incomings or outgoings whilst that remains the case 👍.


12.) 15 Jun 2021 17:27:50
Gingerdan I applaud you mate. 100% correct! The crazy thing is, you would think, especially over the past 5 years, everyone would understand how all this works and when we are actually informed of developments.

Of course they can't say "psst. were going to speak to that manager over there. We may not hire him but we're going to have a chat" or "Shh don't tell the other clubs but we're going to see if this player over here wants to join us, he said maybe but we have to have a word in ones agent ear first like".

We all just need to enjoy the summer, have a bbq, a few beers and see what happens.


 

 

12 Jun 2021 18:28:59
All these fans complaining about potential signings all being Portuguese and missing out in good signings with Nuno is quite funny.

Wolves signed 20 players last season - 3 Portuguese, 4 dual national Portuguese players and 13 non - Portuguese players.

So 35% Portuguese players.

Gingerdan

1.) 12 Jun 2021 18:50:14
I’m assuming I’m one of these fans? My comment about “being born in a different country” was incorrect, I meant to say about having a different agent.


2.) 12 Jun 2021 18:54:39
Yeah well we signed one and he's bloody terrible.


3.) 12 Jun 2021 18:54:48
Agree Gingerdan mate there are some ridiculous comparisons being made before our proposed new Manager even set foot in the door, silly really.


4.) 12 Jun 2021 19:29:03
Probably Swan as you’ve said we’re going to miss out on a LOT of young talented players because of him.

It’s not as if we’re renowned for signing players like that recently. As we only signed one player (Godfrey) who fits this young talented profile last season.


5.) 12 Jun 2021 21:46:57
Will also add what’s the point in these young talented players if they don’t get a look in - Simms, branthwaite, Gordon, small etc.

Think our youngest player last season who had a run of games was Godfrey at 23yrs old!

At least nuno not adverse to starting youngsters - had silva an 18yr old striker leading the line when Jimenez injured.


6.) 12 Jun 2021 21:55:58
He didn’t really have a choice as Willian Jose was rubbish.

I’m only going off of what Wolves fans have said, the likes of Almo, Lukiele and Gvardiol could’ve signed for Wolves but Mendes told Nuno “no, sign my players instead” and that’s just listing some from Leipzig.


7.) 12 Jun 2021 22:46:45
What about our board and koeman turning down the chance to sign erling haaland!


8.) 13 Jun 2021 00:07:19
Or Martinez choosing Mori over Van Dijk.

The board and past managers have their fair share of blunders sadly.


9.) 13 Jun 2021 06:40:01
Swan. Surely you mean olmo and mukiele?

Whilst good young players, they did nothing against our neighbours in champs league, plus RBL finished 2nd in a poor German league with sorloth as st who was total flop at Palace.

Football is filled with stories of managers missing out on top players by choosing other

Let's just be patient and see how things pan out before making him walk the plank.

The man has not even walked in the door yet.


 

 

03 Jun 2021 11:49:01
Lots of negativity on here regarding Carlo going and state of team (myself included in this) however if you look at some of the players we have at the club who will more than likely be here at the start of next season then if we can get the right manager in we may not be in that bad a position.

I've only listed players I think will offer something next season

GK - Pickford, Tyrer, leban
LB - digne, nkounkou, small
RB - Kenny
CB - Godfrey, mina, Keane, branthwaite, Gibson
MF - gbamin, doucore, Allan, Davies, Gordon, Rodriguez
CF - Richarlison, DCL, Simms, kean, Tosun

Rightback an area we definitely need to cover as well as an attacking midfielder.


Now if a manager can't use these players as a base to build a team then we are in trouble!

Personally wouldn't have sigurdsson, Gomes, Delph, Bernard, Holgate, Coleman in the squad for start of next season.

Gingerdan

1.) 03 Jun 2021 12:01:47
So Gingerdan if you can't sell or loan any of the players you don't want what would you do with them, just pay them to train or waste most of our cash buying them out of their contracts?


2.) 03 Jun 2021 12:13:56
Not sure SA90 as I don’t run the club.
Would expect Coleman to get a coaching role or similar.

I do feel a lot of our problems are the likes of these players who offer very little yet still make the match day team/ squad.

I would not be bothered if they get sat in the reserves and we pay them or we pay their contracts up. What does bother me is that they are offering nothing and preventing other players getting a chance.

Forgery the money we pay them - What has delph, Gomes, sigurdsson, Bernard or Holgate done this season to warrant a place in next seasons squad?


3.) 03 Jun 2021 12:59:02
Siggy has scored 8 goals and had 10 assists so it's a bit harsh on him. Tosun has a lengthy injury and Kean doesn't want to play for us. Kenny not good enough. Gomes, iwobi and Delph I agree are useless Other than that the rest are half decent.


4.) 03 Jun 2021 13:24:02
Players who’s contracts ended this month: Besic, Walcott, King and Pennington.
Saving in wages approximately 270k a week.
Of the others mentioned: Coleman, Delph, Rodriguez, Siggurdson and Bernard all have 12 months left. Wages approximately 470k a week.
Mina 2023, Holgate and Gomes 2025.
Everton are currently paying 88mill in first team squad wages per year.
Would seem Brands has got quite a challenge on his hands shifting some of these players. I doubt given the age of some that they could command the sort of salary at another club that they are getting here.
So it looks like we are stuck with them for at least another season.


 

 

02 Jun 2021 10:18:12
What about Pochettino?

PSG could use him as a makeweight in any deal for Moise.

Say £30m and Poch and they can have Moise 😂 can but dream.

Gingerdan

 

 

23 May 2021 19:02:19
Some good meltdowns on here today.

Did anyone really expect anything from today’s game? Playing the champions at home and the first time in front of their fans since winning the league. Add to that out abysmal run of results. Deluded if thought we’d get anything from game.

Lots needs changing and hopefully a better team and performances from us bet season.

However we have finished better than last season with more points.

We’re all aware we need to ship some players out, however why fans now rounding on Rodriguez is crazy. One of our better players and amazed we got 25games out of him. Hopefully we get more minutes from him next season now he’s experienced the league.

Overall disappointed with how the season panned out, but realistically what did we expect from this season - at the start of the season there was no way any of us would have realistically expected european football.

Hope everyone can chill out, enjoy the euros and see what happens with the club over the summer.

Gingerdan

1.) 23 May 2021 19:47:33
Great Post ginger. An improvement and let's improve again next season.


2.) 23 May 2021 19:49:03
"Did anyone really expect anything from todays game? ".

No I most certainly didn't - we should have been able to expect 100% effort, passion, intensity and a bit of professional pride. Was I expecting it? No.


 

 

 

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15 Jun 2021 13:57:38
Just out of interest Guernsey where is this info coming from?
Do you have contacts in the club or are you just going on what is being written in the press?

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10 Jun 2021 16:43:22
I think nuno would be an ok appointment if he didn’t want to take over the recruitment aspect of it as well.

Would make no sense to appoint him if he then has mendes doing our deals instead of Brands.

As others have said in here we need a manager to manage the players and let Brands do the recruitment.

This is the perfect opportunity to rebuild our identity and recruit players that suit the club and what we want to achieve rather than suit a particular manager.

Not sure of many other jobs were a manger is replaced and then they replace their workforce - the keys in the name manager - MANAGE.

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10 Jun 2021 09:20:05
Guernsey - would not hurt the Reds if he got us relegated! 😬

Actually think he’s a decent manager and would whip some of our players into shape. If he’s appointed he’s got my backing. Just hope he’s got a thick enough skin to deal with our fans.

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01 Jun 2021 22:38:21
Skylark maybe he was pushed out when he came out and said that he was going to offer sigurdsson a new deal 😂.

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01 Jun 2021 17:36:36
Totally agree Ed025. If he does go and looking more and more likely it’ll be a smack in the face to all the fans who believed him when he said he wanted to build things here and be have built a team to compete when in new stadium.

Also to publicly criticise the ESL then to jump ship to join a club still in it will be ultimate hypocrisy.

I also don’t get why he’d go - can’t see it being for money as Real Madrid allegedly skint and we already pay him £220k per week or similar.

Real also got the potential UEFA sanctions ahead for not pulling out of ESL.

If he does go then he has led us all a merry dance

I think the silence from both the club and him suggests it’s all but a done deal.

Gingerdan

{Ed025's Note - he was actually 5th choice as well dan, good riddance i say mate..


 

 

 

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16 Jun 2021 20:48:24
What will you do ed0666 if he is appointed and we beat you at anfield?

Gingerdan

{Ed0666's Note - I honestly would be happy for Rafa. I love the guy.


 

 

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16 Jun 2021 18:17:33
Marcel Brands was at PSV from 2010-18
In that time there were only 2 managers cocu and advocatt

So not sure how can make an assumption of what type of manager Brands prefers.

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16 Jun 2021 16:26:15
Just out of interest sake how do you know what type of manager Brands likes?
And what’s to say he wouldn’t like the appointment of Nuno?

If Brands likes to bring young players through and Nuno has a track record for playing youngsters surely they’d be a good fit?

Before Mendes is mentioned - he was an adviser to Wolves the club, not necessarily Nuno as an individual.

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15 Jun 2021 12:12:03
Bw not going to fall out - it’s good to have differing opinions.

I agree with you on your point regarding identity. We haven’t had an identity since the dogs of war days.

However I don’t think it’s as simple as coming out with a statement as to say what we want to achieve and what style we want.

If the club do that and then can’t get an appropriate manager to fulfil that identity what happens then?

We also have to deal with the issue of the players we currently have - if the identity is to be a high tempo pressing team - we clearly haven’t got the players to achieve that. If we want to be known as the team who play crab (sideways) football team then we’re sorted 😂

We all want the team to do well, we all want European football and I think we all realise it isn’t going to happen overnight.

We’re all frustrated at the amount of false dawns we’ve had - 6 managers since Martinez left in 2016 hasn’t helped, we need stability.

I just hope that whomever we appoint is given time to develop their own style which we as fans can embrace and hopefully achieve our European dreams
.

Gingerdan

 

 

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15 Jun 2021 11:56:47
I’d also like to add I have seen no official statement from either spurs or Crystal Palace relating to their managerial hunt.

I’ve seen sky and others report Crystal Palace pulled out of deal for Nuno - but nothing official from Crystal Palace

I’ve also seen sky and others report that Spurs not going to appoint Conte - again nothing official from spurs regarding this.

I’ve also seen reports Fonseca likely to be new Spurs manager - however nothing official from Spurs.

There are rumours all over the place regarding managers but the only official announcements clubs ever give are when they actually appoint their manager.

If I have missed official statements from Palace and Spurs regarding who they are or aren’t interested in then I apologise, but I don’t think I have.

I think they’re being as transparent as Everton are.

Gingerdan