Everton Banter

13 Dec 2019 20:13:57
Arteta “top of the list “ is reports are to be believed think he would be a risk but a risk worth taking good position for both club and arteta to build something as long as the club tell the fans about plans and time scales on what they want to achieve.

13 Dec 2019 16:13:46
I received an email today from the people's project, of the Bramley Moore update.

For anyone who has not yet received this, the application for the new ground is being submitted on Monday 23rd December,

A new visual of the ground and also Goodison is going to be available that Day as well on the Everton website, and also the people's project app.

13 Dec 2019 17:48:24
Wicked. Only minor tweaks apparently too so it's going to look epic.

13 Dec 2019 08:44:58
Good vid posted on you tube yesterday from toffee tv, a managerial update. The chairman of the shareholders association is a guest. Well worth a watch if you have a spare half an hour or so.

13 Dec 2019 08:35:17
Have I got this right Boris is our new Manager and big Dunc is the Home Secretary?

13 Dec 2019 12:44:36
Tim Howard the secretary of defence.

13 Dec 2019 13:37:58
Boris will keep us out of Europe for years, but all our friendlies will be in the USA. At least we will have over 360 on our "benches"!

13 Dec 2019 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 12th December 2019

12 Dec 2019 16:55:23
I would take your hands off for Ancelotti. He would help raise the profile of the club and increase the caliber of player we can bring in. One thing t remember is that we are coving through the mud. We cannot go out and get the best managers. I would also like us to take a risk with Arteta. Eddie Howe and Sean Dyche wouldn't be bad options.

12 Dec 2019 19:56:32
I would rather take a chance on chris wilder at sheff utd than either of dyche or howe. All I know is, that this time we have to make sure whoever we appoint we have to get it right. This merrygoround of failed managers has to stop.

12 Dec 2019 21:46:53
U say we have to get it right and take a chance in same post! Thank god u aren’t in charge.

13 Dec 2019 01:21:45
Meaning if it came down to dyche or howe who bluetit mentioned and if they where the options you may as well throw wilder into the mix I'd rather take a chance on him go and look up his managerial record far better than the other 2. Not once did I say I'd have him as the manager. We're talking hypertheticaly.

13 Dec 2019 12:13:05
Jimmyc your telling me you would rather have eddie howe or wilder as are manager than carlo. You have lost the plot
If we brought in howe or wilder tell me what players are we going to attract + what have they done if anything they are the big gamble in my eyes . carlo will attract top players plus his cv ses it all league titles european cups
Yes everton will be a challenge we have to give him time to build an get rid of the s**t we have got.

13 Dec 2019 13:08:25
Read my post evocallum read it carefully my friend.

13 Dec 2019 13:49:17
Yes i have and you replied to a message that stated i'd would tAke your hands off for carlo with a reply i'd rather take a chance with wilder. But then go on to say we can't keep getting failed managers and need fo get it right but you want to take a chance on wilder rather than carlo
That's what i'm thinking your reply is
I might be reading it wrong but i can't see what your tryna say.

13 Dec 2019 14:38:29
You're reading it wrong mate as I also replied to pig head honcho and at the end of the reply i said we're talking hypertheticaly. I never said I'd take any of the names mentioned over Ancelotti or neither did I imply I would. Anyway it's gone now mucker forget about it save our time and energy concentrating on the team for sundays game.

13 Dec 2019 19:25:57
Something we can both agree on 👍🏻👍🏻Coyb.

12 Dec 2019 09:45:45
I can't believe what am hearing fans saying they don't want carlo Ancelotti. The man is a serious winner he has a football brain he can attract top players also he wins trophy's This man is the type of manager we should be looking for. Hope we get him COYB pull this one off ✌️✌️✌️.

12 Dec 2019 10:59:50
Evo do a bit more research about him, his CV is great but there are aspects that do flag warnings especially regarding suitability of managing a club that may well be in relegation battle when he arrives.

12 Dec 2019 11:18:34
He was an exceptional manager, are youjust basing our next manager on what he has won? if so should we get pellegrini in when west ham sack him? he's won things? its about if its a good fit, carlo's clubs have had the best players in the world in wherever he's been, is he the right man to one to oen coach our players to become better, as that's our new model? or will he want to just buy buy buy? its about the fit, he's 60 years old now, will he have the bit between his teeth to come here and achieve something? he wasnt like that at napoli with great players, so why would he be here?

12 Dec 2019 13:01:52
Look into his work properly i can't believe am listening to this. Yes be has been sacked quiet a big yes he has ups an downs with the owners of the clubs he manages but what your forgetting is he has managed top teams pressure is huge expectations are high he is going to clash with owners managers want time but at massive clubs you don't get time what this man has done is unreal i couldn't care less if he has been sacked and he clashes . He noes what he wants he will attract top players and its a breath off fresh air he will be offered a project which we all no will take 3/ 5 years realistically get us back un europe before we move into the new ground an build a squad

Sorry for my spellings i am terrible at it 🙈.

12 Dec 2019 13:13:01
he has managed top teams, this isn't a top team? what this man has done with brilliant sides is unreal. this isn't a brilliant side. honestly best example is pellegrini, west ham all thought the same about him. i'm not saying ancelotti shouldn't be in, i'm just questioning the fit, i'd rather have a younger manager who coaches players to become better and has the enthusiasm to prove himself, carlo ancelotti has nothing to prove at this stage in his career.

12 Dec 2019 13:19:10
I don't know what exactly happened at Napoli wblue2 but what little I've heard is that there is a lot of friction between the players and the board but where Carlos fits into that I'm not sure

Even with, or despite the above, he had a 52% win ration and has qualified them into last 16 of Champions League.

I can only say "I wish"

Apart from you saying you'd prefer Ferguson over Moyes if we had to appoint an interim manager which I happen to agree with I couldn't see who you wanted as manager long term. Have you anyone in mind?

Whoever we get will be a gamble and there will be a lot of people unhappy - it's the Everton way unfortunately.

12 Dec 2019 13:30:11
We have had younger managers martinez koeman silva it did not work. Time for change and some one with a lot off experience in management.

12 Dec 2019 13:54:57
Ranieri was 64 and had won nothing when he took over at Leicester

Ancelotti is 60 and has won everything

Might be worth a punt

Or do we say Ranieri is more like Moyes as he has won nothing?

12 Dec 2019 14:06:26
@evocallum mate I totally agree, to me he is the best out there, he was unfairly treated at Chelsea after winning the double in first year and has had major success with most clubs (albeit better teams than us at present) . I just find it hard to believe he is interested, I hope I am wrong. only concern is has he ever worked with a squad as poor as ours is currently.

12 Dec 2019 14:41:43
listen as i've previously stated, i'm not trying (althought looking back looks like i have! ) to completely bash the man as our potential manager, i'm just trying to look at it from a step back. yes we do need someone who is going to whip their a** in shape, carlo could do that and who knows maybe he has got a point to prove here after being sacked by chelsea for doing not a lot wrong! i'm just thinking a lot of people complain about managers not getting this club, will carlo do that? with napoli yes there is unrest but he has still arguably not done great there with the squad (if the friction is between the managers and the board why would he be sacked for this btw? ) its an interesting one, if he did get appointed don't get ahead of ourselves.

12 Dec 2019 14:44:12
in reply to bw2412 i'm not sure what point you're trying to make involving ranieri in this?

12 Dec 2019 14:47:10
in the question of who i had in mind, that's the question, apart from the obvious options of poch marcelino, i did quite like the thought of gallardo (has since ruled out moving from river) apart from that i am stumped unless the coaches are obviously not going to come (your likes of nagelsmann, ten hag, allegri) its a difficult appointment mate.

12 Dec 2019 14:48:13
Now i'm not saying i do or don't want him but i remember watching Liverpool v Napoli and Liverpool were killing Napoli despite Napoli being 1 up, Ancelloti made a slight change in the formation and it nullified what could have been a Liverpool whitewash.

I remember thinking then he seems tactically quite clever.

12 Dec 2019 14:59:32
smit of course he is, he's great defensively, this is the question of fit again, where as he had koulibaly manolas and allan sat infront (one of the best defensive trio in world football) it would be very different story here, that's my only thing with him for the state we are in at the minute is this man the right fit to pick this group of players up and do something with them, you see klopp when he came in coached players he ahd and made them usable that's what everton needs same with pep (and yes i know these are the best two managers in the world right now) but there are other managers out there similar to this, marcel brands job to find the fit.

12 Dec 2019 15:08:12
Maybe I didn't make the point well wblue2.

You'd made the point that we shouldn't look at what he has won or else we'd consider Pellegrini. I was saying that Ranieri had won nothing before Leicester. What does that mean? We should go for someone who has won nothing like Moyes?

I agree - records are not the be all and end all and logic plays no part sometimes in football - it all depends on the footballing gods - but personally I'd rather put my money on a thorough bred like Ancelotti than a beach donkey like David Moyes

I probably still haven't explained it well but that was the point I was trying to make

By the way you still haven't said who you want as manager. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it.

12 Dec 2019 15:13:29
wblue2

Article on Ancelotti and players v the board.

12 Dec 2019 15:33:55
bw2412, interesting article, read up yesterday he leaves napoli still close friends with the chairman, in regards to the anceolotti v moyes question its a clear winner in carlo, but i'd like to thinkt the club have a list that consists of just him and moyes, in regards to who i want i replied above mate, but here it is again; "in the question of who i had in mind, that's the question, apart from the obvious options of poch marcelino, i did quite like the thought of gallardo (has since ruled out moving from river) apart from that i am stumped unless the coaches are obviously not going to come (your likes of nagelsmann, ten hag, allegri) its a difficult appointment mate"

12 Dec 2019 17:50:47
Hey stop insulting beach donkeys bw2412 😂.

{Ed025's Note - love it nick..

13 Dec 2019 11:16:14
wblue2

All good choices but the list is getting smaller all the time. If we waited until summer would we get Nagelsman, ten Haag or Allegri or will they stay were they are or have better projects elsewhere. Are Pochetino or Arteta really interested in us?

We have a chance (how big is debateable) at getting a top top manager in Ancelotti. I honestly think he is worth the risk. Everyone is a bloody risk. Van Gaal and Mourinho failed at Man U. There are no guarantees in football but I'd take a punt on Carlos.

13 Dec 2019 11:52:21
i said mate nagelsmann ten haag and allegri would never come, i also said i have no idea who i would want in apart from poch or gallardo, thankfully its not my job.

13 Dec 2019 12:36:36
Totally right. Let's hope the people who's job it actually is get it right and make us all happy.

13 Dec 2019 12:42:10
Not in 1 or 2 weeks time but in 12 mths, 24 mths 36 mths time. We need the right decision for the future of Everton, not knee jerk reactions from the real decision makers.

12 Dec 2019 09:13:17
Cant believe some of you guys are turning your nose up to Ancelotti. We would be very lucky if we can convince him Everton is the right decision.

12 Dec 2019 12:11:11
look into his work properly mate.