Everton Banter

28 Apr 2025 21:23:00
Hey all, seeing as we are safe with a few games to spare just thought playing devils advocate for a bit of fun and see how peoples opinions would vary.
The scenario, is Moyes moves upstairs and a certain Carlo Ancelotti returns after getting the bullet at Real Madrid. He's open to returning and leading Everton into their new stadium and is promised a sizeable transfer budget.
So, would you support it? Or leave moyes continue as he is.

On a sidenote don't you just love Blue Flares :)

{Ed025's Note - i dont want Carlo back KB but moving DM upstairs would work for me mate..

28 Apr 2025 22:48:15
Carlos would want much bigger stars on wages that would cripple us again. I don’t know who the answer is, but it’s not Carlos for me.

More moving upstairs would not be a terrible thing in my eyes. Would like to see him win something with us first.

29 Apr 2025 03:20:11
Wouldn't have Carlo back if he offered to work for nothing.

He jumped as soon as Madrid came knocking and would do the same again. The man is a disgrace.

28 Apr 2025 19:34:36
Currently my biggest fear is Everton doing an 'Everton' and losing to Southampton in our last home game, one of the worst teams in Prem history would do the double over us.

28 Apr 2025 20:54:02
While that threat is there, i think the atmosphere will give our team extra impetus to do well and give us all the send off we want. Goodison will be rocking, the fans will be up for it and it should be a great occasion as we say a final goodbye to the old lady. Can't wait to be there 👍🏻.

28 Apr 2025 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Fallguy has posted a new article entitled, Ruben Amorim Hasn't Impressed At Manchester United

28 Apr 2025 19:53:54
I reckon we should just buy the whole Wrexham team they seem to have a winning mentality something we've been lacking since 1995.

28 Apr 2025 20:59:43
I understand we won the fa cup this year Toffee but we finished 15th in the league in 95. There wasn’t much of a winning mentality then either tbf.

28 Apr 2025 23:49:22
Yeah Man U didn't turn up and we didn't dominate them. A scrappy Rideout header was the difference and yes we were already cementing our place for a decade at the lower end of the table. Dogs of war right? Code for we are in trouble and can't play football but we can kick you to bits. As for Wrexham? Well they've paid big wages to get players from higher leagues to come to a cash rich project. Unfortunately we can't go and buy a load of players who should be at PSG and Real Madrid etc and pay them those wages £300k per week each to make up for playing at a lower level for 2 years in the hope we shoot up to the CL. That's the comparison.

28 Apr 2025 02:35:40
Congratulations to the other lot for a deserved title win.

UTFT NSNO IMWT.

28 Apr 2025 09:43:53
Lovely to see them celebrate by using blue flares aswell as red.

28 Apr 2025 11:48:43
Wow! Really.

28 Apr 2025 21:01:25
None of that language on here Welsh! Haha.

28 Apr 2025 21:12:56
Classy Welsh Trucker. They are a very good side. We can only hope!

27 Apr 2025 17:40:33
Rooney was 16 when it became obvious he should be in our first team. okay he had the body of a man even back them. but would like to see others who are young and not as broad shouldered, like Graham, given a chance in pre season. if you are good enough 17 years of age should not be a bar to trying one or two players out. not expecting a Lamille but let's be honest. we don't have a great track record of bringing academy players through to the first team.

27 Apr 2025 19:00:04
The ones asking for Dixon and all them lot to get a game were saying the same for astley and all the others a few years ago who were part of our most successful youth team, where are any of them now? I’m not even aware of any of them playing lower league let alone still playing.

28 Apr 2025 10:32:45
the ones who are good enough you see get glimpses and first team level exposure in loan deals, and you see them get it early doors

wishful thinking that some of these 21's are good enough helps no one.

28 Apr 2025 11:38:35
I’m pretty sure Braidy Graham will be involved with the senior team squad next season. He’s clearly at the level needed, unfortunately a very high percentage of the u21 squads (although very good players) are just not good enough or at the same level.

27 Apr 2025 11:47:59
Anyone still think Patto is good enough?

Never known a player get as much as a free pass, even after showing absolutely nothing in the years he has been here.

Terrible football player. Scottish league is very much his level.

27 Apr 2025 12:53:49
Not sure about the free pass as he's barely played but he hasn't impressed but he's also not had a run of games or stayed injury free when he's had a opportunity and when he does play he clearly has the best cross skill in the club but can't defend very well and isn't given much freedom to play on the front foot. A strange purchase considering his skills and Rafa bought him. Not a Rafa player at all. Wonder if he was yet again an FM player forced on the club? Guess his deal will run down and he'll stick around and barely make 30 appearances over his stint, go on a free to someone who plays wing backs and he'll do really well. I think dare I say it but I prefer Young at RB.

27 Apr 2025 13:47:43
Not the best BN, either him Keane or Young has a future at Everton.

27 Apr 2025 14:06:03
Think he’d be let go if a half decent offer came in. Haven’t seen any evidence that he’s the best crosser at the club, although it wouldn’t be a difficult achievement at the moment. Think it’s an area we’ll look to recruit in.

27 Apr 2025 14:15:53
Well he crossed 3 times against CFC and all balls whizzed through the pen spot as opposed to out for a throw in. Relative I guess.

27 Apr 2025 14:35:40
I would play Patterson on the wing before Harrison, as it’s been said he can at least cross a ball.

27 Apr 2025 17:26:26
As FBS indicates Patterson more a wing back and yes JBtoffee he is one of the best crossers of a ball.

27 Apr 2025 17:28:54
Strange that neither Moyes or Dyche thought that, I agree Woburnblue2.

27 Apr 2025 18:21:15
Shame he really gets himself into a position to prove it dms.

27 Apr 2025 21:47:20
Against Chelsea he was chasing shadows when winger got past him. Not quick enough on the turn and not quick enough to chase back. Does put a good cross in though.

28 Apr 2025 19:23:57
I always stick up for him but it is getting harder I definitely think there is a really good player in there somewhere but I'm leaning to what FBS is saying he will leave us join another club and look a different player and we will all say why didn't we give a chance.

27 Apr 2025 09:19:35
Why do some on here bang on about DM having an eye for great players and finding a bargain, I thought he was a manager and not a scout, the likes of Coleman was was introduced to him by Willie McStay, moyes didn't actually go out and find him, wish people would stop saying let's see who Moyes brings in, Moyes doesn't do the buying and never has, h.

27 Apr 2025 13:02:06
Have an holiday son.

27 Apr 2025 14:25:07
You too son.

28 Apr 2025 07:47:28
But who sent them to watch him, who gives the ok let's sign him, probably Moyes.

28 Apr 2025 11:53:20
That’s the same as pretty much every premier league manager. Every team has their own scouts. The manager gets the final say.

28 Apr 2025 15:13:00
We've had nearly 10 years of recruitment that, by and large, has been as underwhelming as much as it has been costly. Mainly because we had too many people wanting different players, each with differing ideas. It hasn't really worked out too well for us on the whole. DM is old school in the sense that he served his early managerial years watching numerous games per week, casting his eye on hundreds of players. That did work out quite well for us at that time.
Obviously, the game has changed considerably and so has the way clubs recruit. Instead of a manager, his assistant and scouting network, we now have analysts, DoF etc that cover the majority of the recruitment process. For me, the manager still has to have final say on a player being bought as it's them that have to integrate them into their team and system. In the past, despite having some strong characters as manager, there has been an obvious disconnect when it comes to transfers. I heard that DM took the job under the condition that he had a lot of say in who comes and goes. I'm happy with that as, although he hasn't got it right every time, he has a good track record in the transfer market. He also knows what type of character fits in with the ethos of this club, more so than the likes of Rafa for example.
We know you don't like him, you haven't wanted any manager that we've had since I've been on these pages which begs the question, who would be your ideal man to lead us into a new stadium and a new era?

28 Apr 2025 16:03:27
Your correct bluepotato I haven't wanted any of the appointments that we have made since DM left the appointments have been shocking, I wish I had the answer to who we should have asked but I haven't and maybe it wouldn't have mattered who we had as manager as the owner would still have messed it up . we are now in a better place with our new owners and I just think the appointment of DM is just a backward step but thanks for the grownup reply mate unlike some .

28 Apr 2025 18:51:05
It's not been too bad so far, skylark, especially when we think of how we started this season. There will be enforced changes for next season with 13 players out of contract so I suppose that will bring more challenges for the club to overcome. Integrating almost half a squad in one go could be quite tough, players needing to get used to each other etc, we seen that with Forest the other year when they brought in practically an entire new squad. I think, for that reason, DM could be the right man for the next few seasons but not so much long term. He's a very disciplined and organised manager and I think that's exactly what we need right now with all these changes.
I didn't want Moyes a few years ago but, after the likes of Rafa, Lampard and Dyche, the club wore me down and I was happy that it was a safe pair of hands to steady the ship. It's never easy for a manager going back to an old haunting ground, most don't work out for one reason or another, but he's had a good start with the players that the previous manager couldn't get a tune out of. Just hope it continues mate as going the game is no longer a chore as it was the first few months.

28 Apr 2025 19:31:19
100% agree with everything you say. But two years tops for me then hope he moves on,

28 Apr 2025 20:40:52
Can I have a holiday to?

28 Apr 2025 20:55:38
Think he will get 3 minimum mate, obviously results and a sense of progression will play a part in him staying or going. Time will tell mate eh.

27 Apr 2025 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - Germansuppclub has posted a new article entitled, Ruben Amorim's Style At Manchester United

26 Apr 2025 20:08:37
Our midfield is going to be interesting next season. to me Garner is very ordinary, does not change games, should move him on but probably need squad players. Doucoure goes. Harrison must go. Lindstrom not a premier league type player from what we have seen. Alcaraz Moysey does not seem sure about. Ghana deserves a short contract but will probably want 2 years which he is unlikely to get. McNeil is tidy and a half decent crosser of the ball but lacks pace. Armstrong i would like to see given game time with us but may find himself loaned out. so there are lots of questions to be answered in that department. But without doubt there has to be a search on across all leagues for a creative midfielder/ architect and pace on the flanks. Hoping spending restrictions and our kitty allow something to get excited about as we being our Bramley Moore journey.

26 Apr 2025 20:39:03
What I noticed with our midfield is when centre backs have the ball the 2 midfielders drop back to centre half positions. Leaves z gaping hole in the middle and no one to pass to.

26 Apr 2025 22:15:14
If my CB (s) moved forward into my position either our FB moved inside or I dropped back, standard stuff. No hole.

26 Apr 2025 22:56:59
Problem is dms is there is no movement.

26 Apr 2025 23:39:30
We need a lot of new players. Simple as that. The worry is how fast we can gel so many new faces.

27 Apr 2025 04:31:50
No doubt the board along with Davey have identified a list of who it's possible to get in.

We have to be patient and trust that they know best. We aren't going to get world class atm because they want Champions League. We need accept that this is probably a five year project and careful steps need to be taken to avoid the previous regimes mistakes.

I would be more than happy with maybe two marquee signings alongside another half dozen prospects/ squad players. Letting some big earners leave will free up enough funds to do that.

We all know the positions that need attention and I'm sure Davey and his coaches know too. We are safe this season when it looked dangerous under SD. Let's celebrate that and get excited about a summer of new arrivals and a move to BMD.

The Grand Old Lady will be sadly missed by us all but we need to modernise or fall further behind.

UTFT NSNO IMWT.

27 Apr 2025 10:37:48
Well let’s see about this Champions League mythe when clubs like Utd who are not in it will still attract top players. Why, because they pay them a lot of money.
Champions League is just an excuse, they go to who pays the most.

27 Apr 2025 14:36:56
Spot on BMD👍.

27 Apr 2025 17:24:29
If marquee signings means £30-50m on one player then I'd much prefer a dozen of young 20-23 year olds who are going places for £5-£15m and a couple of 29-31 year olds on the cheap/ loan who can make it all mesh. Hopefully the club don't come out and state how big the war chest is and that clubs assume we are still skint and don't try to squeeze us like under the previous regimes splurges. Nothing more hobbling than advertising we have £100m+ burning a hole.

26 Apr 2025 18:48:03
This might be a daft question but tarks won the ball and followed through on MacAllister which should have been a red card. So how come it didn't apply today when Sanchez punched ball away and smashed into Mykolenko when following through? Just 2 very similar incidents with opposite outcomes.

26 Apr 2025 20:16:04
Agree totally Dentie. I thought exactly same. One was against Liverpool and the other for Chelsea which shows imo both refs and media pander to
So called big teams.

26 Apr 2025 23:24:30
The ref had blown his whistle for Chelsea before the players even hit the deck.

26 Apr 2025 15:45:02
Is Ndiaye injured or was it tactical anyone.

26 Apr 2025 18:04:19
Just think he wasn't at it today.