Everton Banter

28 Nov 2023 04:04:08
Whatever happens with the appeal, we must as a club get our house in order and start building a sustainable future.

For too long we have signed players with little resale value or players simply not to Premier league standards.

To throw in a controversial question. would we accept Mason Greenwood if the club signed him?

28 Nov 2023 06:10:00
Not for me.

28 Nov 2023 06:14:46
No we would not accept Mason. We have spent 6years being split and We have now found something to unite against, he would ruin all that. Even If he is an exceptional footballer.

27 Nov 2023 17:57:48
Richard Masters, it is time for this man to resign, or, be forced out by a chairman's vote of no confidence.
This man, is only in place as forth choice, the three candidates before him actually refused the job, thus he is only in post by default.
His public school education, only took him to a red brick university, scraped a degree, but no master or MBA, but punted himself around a number sports trying to get a leg up, in short, this man is a chancer and it's time for him to go .

27 Nov 2023 21:16:20
So we should go for the 5th choice candidate?

27 Nov 2023 23:13:42
Santa or the Easter bunny would be preferable. This4 guy is a social climber, willing to do anybody's business, to ingratiate himself and get a leg up the greasy pole.

26 Nov 2023 19:30:10
Should I explain, wasn’t it in big enough letters for you.

26 Nov 2023 19:13:16
Think we need to see things in context. We played like we have most if season and players gave their all. Went behind to worldie then failed to take our chances before half time.
Penalty was soft but correct decision once foot poked out but thought ref was poor throughout.
Utd deserved today but thought game was decided on a couple of decisions and our inability to take chances (same old. same old) but really believe we will be fine!
However, 10 points will mean it will be tight!
COYB!

26 Nov 2023 20:13:21
Well ignoring all of the passion, ten point deduction, the problem with Refs and luck etc. and the fact that the players are trying their best, we have now got 5 points from an available 24 at home which is just not good enough and would normally make us relegation candidates. Our away form on the contrary has been excellent. To survive this year it is pretty obvious where we need to improve.

26 Nov 2023 23:14:54
Luckily we have dramatically improved away because we were terrible both home and away. Obviously we'd all love a home win and a winning streak to remind teams that Goodison is a nightmare host. On a great day we'd have been 5-1 up at half time. They were begging for a good seeing to but we didn't smash em when they were on a plate. 2nd half was a little lackluster by comparison to that 30mins in 1st half yet we still could have got a couple and then we got punished as per our luck. Ref was terrible but they all are in all games so no conspiracy theories apply. We will be fine with a month to go. I'd like to think we will get a home win soon. UTD were and are in good form so not that unexpected. Scoreline was harsh though.

27 Nov 2023 07:32:34
Pretty much exactly as I see it FBS.

27 Nov 2023 09:21:31
That's not how I see it. We try and play the same way at home as we do away. We sit back and try to hit teams on the break. It works away from home but not when were playing at home.
The first ten minutes of yesterday we sat back and allowed them to do whatever they wanted, I mean at times their keeper just stood there with the ball at his feet with zero pressure.
Once we started pressing them the game changed and we were able to unsettle them. Then for some reason in the second half we came out and sat off them again.
Utd are not a good side, but they do have enough good players who given time on the ball can punish you. Second half we basically handed them the game.

27 Nov 2023 10:34:07
Walking home from the game yesterday having the usual debate with my mate as to where we went wrong. Yes they scored a worldy early on, but even that could have been avoided with tighter marking.
I agree with Brass, when we pressed them they panicked and we were on them. At half time the feeling was that we could still win this. However, the team for some reason decided to sit deep and allow them possession again. Yes the crowd were vocal, but they were pleading with the players to push forward and get in their faces.
There were a few out there who simply underperformed, and substitution should and could have been made earlier.
Utd had a young lad in midfield who basically ran the game for them, and our midfielders got no where near his level of commitment. I would have liked to see young Dobbin given a run, especially as both our wide players were having poor games.
Once the pen went in it was game over, and all the backing in the world from the fans wasn’t going to make any difference. Manager has to change his tactics when playing at home, we need two strikers on the pitch. We need to be pressing teams the full ninety minutes and not allow them to dictate the rhythm of the game.
Felt yesterday we played the badge and not the team.

27 Nov 2023 16:09:36
The frustrations are understandable. There doesn’t appear to be a plan B in terms of a formation change, under any circumstances. Not many teams in World football can press with that energy for 90 minutes. It’s difficult to say that we weren’t positive with the number of chances we created.

{Ed025's Note - things went against us JB, we conceded a worldie of a goal very early ans were chasing the game from that point, i believe if we had converted one of the many chances we had at that stage it would have been a completely different outcome mate, as it was we conceded a very soft penalty and there was no way back after that..

27 Nov 2023 16:36:38
Things always seem against us Ed. It's not just bad luck any more.

McNeil jogged back and left myko defending against 2 utd players for the cross for the first goal. I've not got the stats but we seem to concede from crosses from our left very often. McNeil is supposed to be good defensively but I think he looks bone idle. Danjuma must be Maupay level to not get a game over him.

Stupid foul for the pen, but young has done it before, he can't help giving fouls away. I know a lot are saying it's a soft pen but I think it was a clear trip in the box and even though it was soft it was an obvious pen.

Then the 3rd we were just chasing the game and they finished well.

I don't think we were unlucky in any of them. The misses again weren't unlucky, in all honesty I've come to expect them. I think we all just think we are a much better team than we are.

I don't get why we can do it away (sometimes) but not at home.

I think McNeil and Harrison are our biggest problem. Both need to score far more often than they do. Harrison at least looks busy but McNeil couldn't be further from the player he was under dyche last year, he looks like he doesn't want to be here, never puts the effort in.

{Ed025's Note - i think the pressure after the 10 point ban which we hoped would work for us actually hampered us Chris, we were chasing too hard and snatched at our chances mate, this game was not the be all and end all and will not define our season so im just writing this one off, we will improve and things will settle down sooner rather than later and we will be fine..

27 Nov 2023 21:14:18
Thought that myself, when they didn't think about it they actually pressured but appeared to fold in front of goal. Wasn't at the game so hard to judge atmosphere but it looked on TV as Ed described. I must admit, I did think the deduction would have that nervous effect. 5 points so currently it is in Lutons hands. We certainly cannot afford to slip.

27 Nov 2023 21:18:03
I hope so ed. Just hope we continue doing the business away from home. I just can't work out why we miss so many chances at home.

{Ed025's Note - confidence and trying too hard Chris..

27 Nov 2023 21:45:47
As we’d picked up points, the squad had seemed more relaxed, more confident, and that’s not the case now.
The penalty: same thing happened in the Burnley game, not overturned, so again, we’re given the s***y end of the stick. McNeil and Harrison did have off days, but overall they’ve been decent this season.
I don’t think the performance was as bad as others are saying.

27 Nov 2023 21:55:39
Put two strikers on the pitch and the still need feeding, Beto can do the knockdowns from what I have seen.

26 Nov 2023 17:03:41
Is this ref a United fan.

{Ed014's Note - looks like it, shocker

26 Nov 2023 17:31:39
As corrupt as the rest of them.
A manu fan or acting on orders.

26 Nov 2023 17:43:15
Acting on orders.

26 Nov 2023 18:04:41
We don't help ourselves considering we do 2-3 passes then give the 4th pass back to United.

26 Nov 2023 18:22:55
Pretty poor today. I like dyche but I can understand the irritation with picking young. He has been absolute tripe again today.

26 Nov 2023 18:23:27
It’s been that way last three years. If its for us VAR don’t even look at it and the slightest sniff for the oppo they’re all over it.

So it’s all on forest then. Must win now.

26 Nov 2023 19:29:45
All bluster and no muster.

26 Nov 2023 15:50:26
I just hope we behave ourselves,

it’s enough that we have to use foul language to get a point across as our lack of vocabulary obviously prevents us from anything else.

1878s are not representing the club or me and should be ashamed.

I was looking forward to this game as a game of football and it’s been hijacked.

26 Nov 2023 18:40:39
WTF, lol.

26 Nov 2023 15:01:26
Ten Hag saying clubs should work within there means. Which is a bit rich given his club has a 1billion debt.

26 Nov 2023 12:23:56
2-0 Today. Think and expect us to bombard Utd today.

My biggest worry is the atmosphere might pump the lads up too much and lead to a sending off and the dreaded VAR. Keep 11 on the match, suffocate Utd and get the crosses in lads. At it the minute one.

Cmon, UTFT! 💙🔊🔊🔊🔊💪.

26 Nov 2023 16:48:19
Unfortunately it’s the same team on the pitch and I fear the atmosphere will go against us not for us, I can see us getting a hiding from a decent team who are on a great run of form. 0-3 ☹️🥲.

{Ed014's Note - these lot are utter shite, you should be battering them.

One moment of brilliance as usual for them and nothing else

26 Nov 2023 17:25:06
I hope you’re right 🤞.

{Ed014's Note - keep doing what you’re doing, get one and I suspect you’ll get a few more.

27 Nov 2023 09:23:45
Sadly Chalkie you got this one spot on.

26 Nov 2023 08:44:50
Morning all . Here we go 26 cup finals some we will win some we won't. My take on this situation is I was actually expecting 6pts off with 6 suspended which is why we needed to hit 12 points asap . By my calculations we need 11 wins and 3 draws . With regards to other teams sueing us . It would be like being tried twice for the same crime something which used to be called double jeopardy in English law . TBH any team that doesn't accrue 40 points cannot really complain about being relegated ourselves included. Couple of questions do u all think the punishment was deliberately high with the view we would appeal . Secondly are there any other teams sweating on this case not man city or Chelsea that's another story for another day . Thirdly what 3 are going down there are a lot of weak teams in the bottom half and any team from palace down can drop I go Luton. Sheff utd and a dropper like Fulham. Burnley will sack company and survive . Lastly how many points will be the safety mark this year . PS I'm not moaning about the punishment even if it is over the top we fxxked up and have to put our big boy pants on and take the punishment but a line has surely been drawn in the sand now. Hope all going to the game make as much noise as possible even if sky who have a lot of influence on this league are muting the sound . If we score first 3 - 1 to us VAR withstanding . We are in for a real roller coaster good luck everyone.

26 Nov 2023 11:23:16
I don’t think we will have the protection of the revised Double Jeopardy law as it’s only used in extreme cases. Our is far from that. Also I’m not sure that suing the club on top of the points deduction would come under the old law either.

I think there’ll be other clubs worried about their situation or at least having their money men pouring their eyes over their accounts to look for any possible breaches to get ahead of the curve. To be expected I suppose.

We can catch Bournemouth and have 4 teams below us without a reduced punishment should our appeal be rejected which I’m personally bracing myself for.

26 Nov 2023 11:30:28
It’s like the Lionel Richie song, well my friends the time has come to raise the roof and have some fun, so come on fellow blues heads up let's get Goodison rocking COYBs.

25 Nov 2023 22:32:23
5 pts from safety making wins a must.

25 Nov 2023 23:54:50
Have had a few 🍺🍺 the boys know what we need. and hopefully they are more united than ever. sorry for the pun.3.1 to tomorrow unless a dodgy VAR f. ks us. COYB'S. 💙💙💪💪💪LETS SMASH THE MANC FU. ERS.

26 Nov 2023 11:28:01
How’s your hangover Ron? 😂😂

DFS 💯 agree. But need to pick our battles. Plenty of games left. One thing I hope to see is that we set up at home to take full advantage of what will be an incredible atmosphere.

What an opportunity this is to make Goodison the most intimidating ground in English football to play at.

COYB!

26 Nov 2023 16:24:46
🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 COYB'S 💪💪💪💪💪💪.

25 Nov 2023 00:12:32
Gents, aĺ who go the gane let's make sure the world hear us on sunday. We are founders of this home sport. We are one of the longest serving top flight teams to stand and be counted when aĺ odds have been against us time and time again. Because when it hits the fan, the toffèefans get going.
Lets show the whole world why we are the absolute BEST, good and bad we are there.
Roĺl on sunday.