Everton Banter

17 Sep 2024 07:39:10
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Nottingham Forest - A Quick Liverpool Perspective

17 Sep 2024 01:22:09
Tuesday is here and another game. I watched southampton on Saturday and they looked decent till they conceded playing nice expansive football missed a pen and a couple of decent chances. hope we contain them early and then score a couple but even if we was to go 2.0 up who of us would be confident of seeing the game out. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔Just about over Saturdays game. Here we go again 3.1 tonight COYB'S 💪💪💪💪💪.

17 Sep 2024 06:56:02
I hope Dyche drops his boys and gives the new boys their chances. If he sticks with his boys then Southampton have a good chance. Can't seem to get excited these days and hope these bad days are over and done soon. When being hanged a prisoner never had as long to wait.

17 Sep 2024 08:18:47
I would take a 1-0. Just be nice to see us keep a clean sheet.

17 Sep 2024 08:41:48
Some Journo's and commentators are jumping on the blame Pickford bandwagon. My take is it his insistence on playing his favourites. Our current centre back pairing is woefully out of form, I, having said Keane was okay had that slapped out of me by the man himself with his mistakes against Villa. Premiership side coached and Managed by a waffler but seemingly a waffler backed by this 'interim' board.

17 Sep 2024 17:44:35
It might be good to give Virginia a go between sticks tonight. He does seem calm and assured in his six yard box. I just hope Harrison, Keane, Young or Doucoure don't start tonight. I'd go for
Virginia
Dixon
Tarks
O'brien
My Gran
Mandala
Garner/ Armstrong
Lindstrom
Ndiaye
Mcneil
Dcl.

16 Sep 2024 20:18:03
Is he still here?

16 Sep 2024 23:13:19
Sorry to say he is Skylark.

17 Sep 2024 00:28:35
They won't sack him. If he wins in cup then he'll get a clean slate to carry on losing league games. If he loses against Southampton he'll be given a clean slate to keep losing league games. I'm sure moshiri loves seeing fans suffer.

16 Sep 2024 10:39:23
Blue Nose Benny.

Do you take private patients. you stopped me from throwing myself under a bus after that performance.
I recalled a Peter Reid and Trevor Stephen interview when they both said. it didn't matter in anyone scored 1st against us . we knew we would win!

That's been reversed with us fans . we know if we score 1st we're going to lose eventually.

16 Sep 2024 07:39:07
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15 Sep 2024 23:26:23
Is there anyone at the club, who has the executive authority to dismiss the manager. ?
It seems to me, that the only reason SD is still in post is that no one has the power to remove him .

16 Sep 2024 07:54:56
Apparently what I’ve read is that it’ll cost £7-8m to sack him so can’t see that happening.

Think when/ if takeover happens managerial decisions may then be made - can’t see anything happening before then.

{Ed025's Note - i think it will depend on results Dan, if we dont start picking up points quickly i do believe he will be relieved of his duties mate, can we afford to sack him?...i would say if this carries on can we afford not to?..

16 Sep 2024 08:35:44
I get what you’re saying Ed, but can’t see Moshiri sacking him and paying him off if we’re not far from being taken over. He won’t be wanting to lose any more money on this venture of his.

{Ed025's Note - with the fear of relegation looming Dan the stock will depreciate mate and not be such a lucrative deal for prospective buyers, well thats my view anyway mate..

16 Sep 2024 09:41:51
We simply cannot afford to keep Sean if the results don’t change pronto then we will be chasing all season, drop down a division then with all its downfalls it will be catastrophic we will lose far more than paying him off now, face it we got lucky again on Sat 2 goals against the run of play but we were never ever going to win that match, the stats say it all.

16 Sep 2024 09:30:57
Again Ed I’d agree with you.

However Moshiri doesn’t seem that bothered and apart from getting the stadium built he hasn’t made one sensible decision at the club so not sure even the threat of relegation will change that.

Just hope the takeover happens before it’s too late to save our season.

{Ed025's Note - money will always bother businessmen Dan, Moshiri has been the catalyst for this clubs demise for me mate with his very poor decisions of managers and bad recruitment, we cant move forward until this charlatan has gone imo..

16 Sep 2024 10:48:51
In fairness to him, he can’t make DCL put the ball in the net, just proves one thing we haven’t a natural finisher at the club, any decent striker should of buried those chances, plus something for me he should be more determined in his hold up play a few times he lost it, that resulted in them counter attacking, probably this is our main problem at Everton they have put all their eggs in one basket regarding DCL unfortunately I can’t see him getting any better now he’s 27 years old and now fully fit, no excuses.

16 Sep 2024 11:51:15
Out of interest Uran do you have a striker in mind that we could either afford or would would come to EFC do you think is better than DCL with holdup play, natural finishing, off the ball movement and physicality against opposition CB's? As an all round package I can't think of any to be honest. I do agree he's not the best natural finisher but the rest of his game is pretty solid most of the time. Could have spent the Beto and Chermiti money better I supposed but they may have been the only viable options at the time who knows? For me the recruitment is just not quite right yet but heading in the right direction. We could have done with a fast wide right sided player and an additional CB but on the whole in our situation I am not sure how much better the recruitment could have been.

16 Sep 2024 12:10:28
Harrison was a far greater concern imo. Thought Dom held the ball up well and was cut off from any support in the second half. He took his goal well. Hitting the bar from where he was was unlucky. He should have tucked the other chance away.

16 Sep 2024 13:39:17
I don't agree that it was unlucky. He hit an hoped, you can see it clear as day with his technique. Like I have said for a long time, the lad cannot strike a football, pure and simple. He is good in the air due to his athleticism but other than that, he is shocking.

Just open your body and slot it either side of the keeper like most strikers would. If you want to get complicated, a subtle deft dink that some strikers do when they have already committed the keeper.

People can keep making excuses for him. One minute we don't make him any chances. Then when he gets chances and misses opportunities to kill games, it is still not his fault.

The mind boggles.

16 Sep 2024 15:06:42
Can’t be 7-8m he’s in his last year now.

{Ed025's Note - i suppose that with his backroom staff et-al that could be a realistic figure NFM, im guessing of course mate..

16 Sep 2024 17:37:49
We were 2-0 up the lad had scored a good goal. Plays as a loan striker covering a lot of ground. But hey let's just blame him for all our problems. Who's to say if he had scored we still wouldn't have lost? The blame lays with the manager and the defence. 2-0 up and you can't manage the game out. Not just once but twice.

{Ed025's Note - I’m with you brass. DCL has been one of our better players mate and our problems are nothing to do with him..

16 Sep 2024 18:20:21
I’ve been on his back plenty of times in the past, but as I’ve already said, I don’t think he was the problem. Took his goal well, unlucky with one, should have done better with one. Top strikers at top teams miss chances, but it’s not highlighted as much as they go on to win their games. If we’d beaten Bournemouth and taken a point off Villa, we’d be saying he’s done ok to score 2 in 2. Thankless task running your nuts off for Dyche, if he wins the ball, who does he pass to?

16 Sep 2024 19:13:47
Exactly JB at times the lad must think he’s out there on his own.

17 Sep 2024 01:22:54
The defence seems constantly under pressure especially when our striker misses golden opportunities to help relieve the anxieties and thus help more confidence throughout the team, it all about confidence.

17 Sep 2024 08:46:32
DCL's hold up play is mostly fine, our problem is as it always has been under Dyche 'supply and support'.

17 Sep 2024 17:28:51
Hitting the bar isn't "unlucky". There's a goal to score in and hitting it's frame is as useful as 10ft over. If it's a long range strike, tough header, potshot etc then you can call it a good effort but it isn't unlucky that it didn't go in - you just missed the target. And a premier league striker shouldn't be missing the target from there. It's like saying a top snooker player was unlucky when rattling the jaws with a black from it's spot, or a top golfer was unlucky when his putt lipped out from a 6ft putt.

{Ed025's Note - so your saying every shot should be a goal DB?, come on mate give your head a wobble..

15 Sep 2024 16:10:36
Perry Groves on Michael Keane " he always looks unbalanced to me, like a baby giraffe on roller skates". Couldn't have put it better myself.

15 Sep 2024 17:30:16
It's his 10 to 2 feet how can you be properly balanced or able to kick a ball with his gate he's useless he'll get us relegated and SD the sack.

15 Sep 2024 21:30:56
I can't blame Keane, he is just thankful to be making in a week what most of us earn in a year, for being useless at his job. SD is the one to blame for picking him week in week out.

15 Sep 2024 21:58:30
Keane is the only central defender in the world who's body gets smaller as he jumps into the air to challenge for the ball.

{Ed025's Note - Pickford as well LALD..

16 Sep 2024 08:39:54
I’m no fan of Keane, however he wasn’t at fault for all 3 goals - just the first. The second was Harrison with an unlucky clearance and the third was a screamer.

I’ve been eager to see what O’Brian can do but was underwhelmed with his performance when he came on. Wasn’t overly fast and was quite cumbersome, looked like a booking waiting to happen which it did. Hopefully he improves with game time as on that performance he doesn’t look like he’ll be shoring up the defence anytime soon.

{Ed025's Note - i would agree with that Dan, it seems that the recruitment has not been totally to Sean,s liking and more of a Thelwell choice rather than the manager to me mate, just another facet of this broken club and the way its been run in recent times..

16 Sep 2024 09:34:03
Based on his continual use of Keane and Young I don’t think I’d want dyche in charge of recruitment.

Would definitely leave Thelwell in charge of recruitment as he’s got an eye for talent, just a shame he never had the backing to get some of the players we were linked with over the line.

Thelwell clearly sees something with O’Brian, just hope he gets the chance to develop and show us what he’s capable of.

16 Sep 2024 09:39:01
Go and watch the goal back. The whole backline were flat-footed and caught watching. The amount of times they get caught out, you would expect them to better set for the simple clipped balls through.

Harrison was unfortunate, it wasn't through lack of trying that he caused the goal, it just so happened to end up in the worst possible position. Keane was marking Watkins and was jogging as the ball got clipped in If he had more about him, he would have been closer to Watkins and able to cut the ball out or at least make contact with Watkins to at least stop him from having such a comfortable finish.

Their 3rd goal, the "warrior" Tarkowski turning away and dodging the ball. Exactly what you want from your centre half.

The first goal, not only did Keane show he couldn't jump. He showed what a simpleton he is. Look at his body shape. He had an eternity to judge that trademark high and hanging cross from Digne, as did Pickford btw.

More of the s*** served up. It is actually a disgrace that we still concede these types of goals. It would be much easier to take if we were getting played off the park and cut open with decent football, but they are just simple goals and lack of desire, effort and awareness.

16 Sep 2024 10:32:47
I think with regards to recruitment it's seems it's more to do with can we get a decent resell price . than than what can this player do for us now. The Keane error? . mmmm a non jumping defender.

16 Sep 2024 12:11:25
Pickford needs to watch some clips of Peter Schmeical - always make yourself bigger, just common sense.

16 Sep 2024 12:28:53
Pickford has been immense for us and kept us up. But the whole team has the wobbles. Dyche is quick to blame the team, but he's hardly inspiring is he? They need belief in themselves and belief in a system. Neither of these things exist and it's all on Dyche.

15 Sep 2024 14:00:26
The last time we lost our first four league games I had just been born, and I'm 66 now!

15 Sep 2024 14:28:57
4 teams have lost their 1st 4 games in the premiership and they were all relegated that season. I hope we break that trend.

16 Sep 2024 09:02:15
Crystal Palace lost all 4 first games under De Boer didn't they? and stayed up.

15 Sep 2024 04:59:11
Is there a reason to continue to follow this season and any subsequent Championship season?


Most of you have been loyal Blues for far longer than myself, and kudos are in order to your faith and perseverance.

15 Sep 2024 09:14:46
As Evertonians we are suckers for punishment mate.

15 Sep 2024 09:14:49
I’m 67 and been going to watch Everton since I was 7 when my dad took me, not knowing my have I lost the winter fuel allowance but I’ve lost faith in SD and some of our players but once a blue always a blue.

15 Sep 2024 09:21:50
It’s part of your life. It might not be a nice part of your life, but it’s there. Couldn’t imagine life without it.

15 Sep 2024 09:34:41
It’s impossible to stop, I’ve tried over the years but it’s in the blood.

15 Sep 2024 10:31:10
This comes up quite often. Why should I stop watching my club because it’s being run by incompetents? The fans are the constant, the owners and managers come and go. Hope these ones go soon.

15 Sep 2024 10:56:27
Morning all.

Just wanted to say a few things:

Yes, what is currently being served up is dross and I do think its down to us playing dinosaur tactics against (as was shown yesterday) some of the most astute managers in the world. And one man’s bewildering loyalty to players that are either, or both not good enough, or too old.

But I’m going to go a bit of blue sky thinking on this now.

1) We finally have the stadium that we’ve wanted and needed for decades.
2) The squad is better than it has been for a good few years and a lot of cr*p has been shown the door.
3) The club has us. Uber loyal, loving and devoted fans, who stick with this club through thick (and recently) thin! 🤣

Be honest, none of us want to be like a City fan is right now. How can you enjoy just winning all the fecking time. Did winning the league last year mean so much more than the year before? i doubt it.

Life needs the bad to make you appreciatewhat the good is.

As Friedrich Nietzsche said (yes you’re getting this on our banter page) : “Without cruelty there is no festival. ”

So imagine this: SD gone in a few weeks, someone with half a modern mentality gets this lot organised, a new owner starts pumping proper money in and then we go to our new stadium with a renewed sense of pride, looking into the future and also up the table!

UTFT’s

These current pains will pass. I feel sure SD will be gone soon enough and all of the rest will start to fall into place. Keep the faith.

Have a great Sunday all.

{Ed025's Note - great post Benny..

15 Sep 2024 11:51:15
Of course we will keep the faith, what's the alternive supporting that other team, it won't happen. Hopefully the mess will get sorted out but its going to take time, even though the Ed's sometimes get unneeded abuse they do try to give us proper information wether we like it or not. Season restarts on tuesday let get behind the team, its in our blood.

15 Sep 2024 13:12:41
Agree with that
Be a hell of a lot cheaper to bin him now than get relegated.

15 Sep 2024 21:47:51
Well I've been watching them for longer than most, actually 78 years so I've been through a lot of ups and downs. I just can't remember any manager being so mentally incompetent or stubborn as this guy. He just will not give up on the likes of Young or Keane even though the evidence is so strong that even us idiot supporters can see it. Unfortunately we are stuck with him until we get a new owner, I just hope that by that time it will not be too late.

{Ed025's Note - we all do Mike..

15 Sep 2024 22:20:41
SD should definitely be replaced ASAP. He is tactically one dimensional and is blinkered towards certain players.
He was handed some quality upgrades in the summer but still insists on picking players that the rest of us can see are not good enough.

We are still a great destination for managers. We have a decent enough squad to easily be mid table. We have new owners around the corner (fingers crossed) and we have an amazing new stadium almost complete.

I would put Leighton Baines in charge until the summer whilst the powers that be whittle down a list until a long term coach can be named.

16 Sep 2024 09:06:38
if you stop following it purely off this, then i'm not sure how you made it past all the rest in the recent years alone, if you think this is the worst of it to come then maybe EFC isn't for you pal haha.

16 Sep 2024 10:46:19
Mmmm. is it the players . is . Keane . Young etc. are not good enough for Everton or not good enough for us supporters. I've got 65 yrs following this club and I think like many many other supporters of whom none have coaching badges . I can see rubbish quite easily.

15 Sep 2024 00:46:54
I'm done with dyche why he picking keane and tarkowski together didn't work last year still does it.

15 Sep 2024 09:25:15
Tarks form has dropped of a Cliff, maybe Keane makes him nervous. I know he bloody makes me nervous.

15 Sep 2024 10:37:58
It just madness.

15 Sep 2024 11:01:21
We're a Burnley clone. It's the managers level. The job and the club is just too big for him.

14 Sep 2024 23:41:06
I went and had a look around Bramley Moor the other day, the place is truly amazing. However, the thought of having to watch this type of football we are playing here in our new home just saddened me.
We simply cannot allow this man to destroy what's left of our once proud club. The opportunity is coming with a new owner and a stadium fit for the best. But we have to act now, we have to make the changes now. Because believe me that stadium is far far to good for the fodder we are being fed right now.

15 Sep 2024 02:11:16
Well those who live in the USA will not be able to watch the games in the new stadium if we are in the Championship!

15 Sep 2024 09:27:00
If we end up in the Championship we might as well sell BM and go play at Walton Hall.