Everton banter 6

19 Apr 2026 17:50:53
Can’t blame Barry for the loss today, but he will never make in the Premiership. As for Beto, he has stepped up and his game and is far better these days. Can’t understand why our fitness levels are so poor; most of the team looked knackered after 60 minutes.

Definitely took a hit today to get into Europe, but next up West Ham, so cmon you Blues.

19 Apr 2026 18:19:41
It is worrying that the players looked so spent. It's not like we are playing too many games.

19 Apr 2026 18:56:18
Barry was awful, gb, and needs binning in the next window. But so does his competition. Beto is not much better despite scoring today. That shot in the 1st half would have changed the landscape of the game if it had gone in, but no, it almost went out for a throw ffs.

We can blame the manager, the tactics, the subs, etc, but if our forwards are wasting so many chances to get us a lead then we are basically p*ssing into the wind. Sick of it in all honesty.

It's not the end of the world but it still stings! Their fans are some of the worst away fans I've seen at our new ground. Only heard them 2 or 3 times, twice when they scored!

It's been mentioned many times, but our home form hasn't been good enough and I put that down to both the fans and players finding their feet at a new stadium.

We have to make it into the same kind of fortress that Goodison was and we will get there in the end.

A few games left but it has been a better season than we all expected before a ball was kicked. Improve the squad, finally fill the positions that we need to strengthen in and I think we will be sound for the coming season.

Hard to take that defeat today but we have to move on and concentrate on the Hammers game next up.

UTFT.

19 Apr 2026 19:07:17
I've slammed Beto in the past, but he is miles better now than he was. Yeah, that shot was embarrassing, but his touch and his link up play is almost there. Hope he's ok after that smack in the face. Looked like he'd fractured his eye socket. ? ??

19 Apr 2026 19:20:33
Actually, thought we were best team today, which I can't remember in a Derby for a long time. KDH was great. Once Beto went off, as I thought he had a great game, our chance was over. Let's move on and get 3 points from West Ham - COYB! UTFT!

19 Apr 2026 19:25:04
That's the problem though, BM, because he's the best out of the two we give him a pass. I've lost count of the times his glaring misses have cost us this and last season. Nice fella, works hard, but just isn't good enough.

We need to make a statement signing this summer with a forward who can take us to the next level.

Sadly, Beto just isn't the man to do that. I'm not blaming him for today's defeat, but it could have been a different game if he buried that first half chance rather than trouble the corner flag.

19 Apr 2026 19:52:01
Barry's control is worse than his awareness. That first touch is criminal. Beto has heart, but the scouting team needs to look at themselves. Neither player has a great first touch. But Barry leaves me scratching my head, he's not in control of his motor functions.

19 Apr 2026 21:28:08
Chris Sutton made comment after comment about Barry and his lack of awareness, movement and touch. It was hard to disagree with any of the negativity he had regarding Barry.

Absolutely gutted with that result today as we did play well in periods, but our weakness with both full backs and in attack need addressing and have done for a few years now.

19 Apr 2026 22:13:30
Barry's first touch is equivalent to a clearance by opposition defence. He has no interest, physicality, or skill. He's a waste of a sub and a position on the bench.

19 Apr 2026 16:45:23
Keane, O’Brien and Tarkowski all giants, and we can’t win a header in our own box. He was literally the only player they needed to mark. ??.

19 Apr 2026 17:20:05
So disappointing to lose a goal that way. Tarks was out-muscled.

19 Apr 2026 17:20:08
Tarkowski wanted to fight two of them trying to be the big man as per BMD. Can't believe Pickford didn't come and punch it either tbh.

19 Apr 2026 17:46:44
Fed up of losing to them in the dying moments of a match.

19 Apr 2026 17:57:19
You're right there, BMD, mate.

19 Apr 2026 18:05:21
Get a couple of fullbacks that can overlap and attack, and with Ndiaye on the left and Dibling on the right, we will be a totally different team nxt season. Plus a forward who can finish. Love Beto's enthusiasm, but he isn't good enough. Plus I would also play KDH in the middle with Garner, and use Idrissa sparingly if we decide to keep him.

19 Apr 2026 18:22:59
If you look at it again, Tarks looks like he's playing for the foul, while both Keane and O'Brien are behind VVD. Nobody is really marking the bloke.

19 Apr 2026 16:06:24
How did we lose that.

19 Apr 2026 16:22:32
They scored more (legal) goals than us.

19 Apr 2026 16:22:41
Moyes, Mykolenko, Tarkowski, McNeil, George KDH and Barry. That's how GB.

It's the hope that kills you.

Worst part is that it is so predictable.

When that goal was chalked off, you just knew they would go and score from some stupid mistake.



Then that corner at the end. Knew they would score before it was even kicked.

Couldn't have been a worse player to score either.

Just sick to the back teeth with it mate.

Said it plenty of times. We have 5 good players and the rest need gutting.

19 Apr 2026 16:31:21
Gutted we were the better team for long periods of the game. JB injury is very worrying, the lad was in tears. Wish him well.

19 Apr 2026 16:34:29
I actually thought KDH had a good game, pal.

19 Apr 2026 16:40:47
Who are the 5? Apart from Barry (not a footballer) . Only 1 I saw today, and it is the same player I watch at most home games. I have seen him have maybe one good half a season. The Squad will be strengthened in the Summer.

1st 11 we need a RB/RWB, RW and Striker. We may need another CB (or two) . Branthwaite, only 23, but hamstrings will be scarred and weak going forward.

19 Apr 2026 16:44:03
Ron, want to make it unequivocally clear here, not firing back at you here, mate, but how did he have a good game? He lost the ball more times than he retained it and got leggy as soon as it hit 70mins.

The assist bailed him out, like his goal against Brentford did.



Lad seems a great character and he has his fair share of goals and assists this season, but I think he is bang average with his overall play. He loses possession consistently and his passing is absolutely shambolic.

Will get pelters for this, but I just say what I see.

19 Apr 2026 16:54:59
I don't get the KDH criticism. He is an excellent player, and if you give him runners in front of him, he will always find them.
One of the reasons we lost is because our two forwards are absolutely rubbish. I don't care whether they try, they are woeful.

19 Apr 2026 16:55:39
Fair shout, BN, but I disagree. Thought he was 1 of our better players today. Each to their own.

19 Apr 2026 17:01:41
He was RonMac.

19 Apr 2026 17:08:51
Moyes's fault? Really?

19 Apr 2026 17:15:03
Same old for me, JB. As soon as we had that goal chalked off, you could sense that something would happen.

How did McNeil stay on the pitch as long as he did.

KDH was visibly tired and we looked leggy in the middle. Trust the squad, Tim, Merlin. No changes.

They were happy with the draw.

You could see that by how they were draining the clock.

Game was there for the taking today and we had no impetus to take all 3 pts.

Manager and players lack of desire to win that cost us today.

Losing Beto and having him replaced by that stroppy mard arse didn't help us at all either.

19 Apr 2026 17:16:17
Pickford, JB, Garner, KDH and Ndiaye are the 5 Dms.

19 Apr 2026 17:21:22
We can play better than that, and didn't. Our better players didn't perform. Having the goal chalked off seemed to rattle us. Gutted.

19 Apr 2026 17:43:50
I have no rational way of explaining this, but I always expect us to lose against the top teams with Moyes as manager. As grateful as I am that he is a safe choice, he just isn't good enough beyond that.


Our manager is a safe choice, not a winning choice.

Moyes hater? No. But if you want to win against the top teams you'll need a different manager.
If you look at his record the wins are very few and far between.

19 Apr 2026 18:10:45
How do you explain us beating Utd and Chelsea this season? Does he get credit for that or do we just fuel the narrative?

19 Apr 2026 18:38:22
Agree with JB, we can lose to bottom teams just as easy, and we can win against so called Top teams.

19 Apr 2026 21:39:05
BN, I thought KDH had a decent game today as well. He did give the ball away a few times and looked leggy for periods, but he did make things happen for us.

I do agree with you. In regards to our players, we carry too many passengers far too often.

Yes, sometimes Keane, Mykolenko, McNeill etc. have a good game, but all too often, they are not at the level we need to push up the EPL. Hopefully we do get replacements this summer, and if we don't bring in a right back, the recruitment team should be sacked.

20 Apr 2026 10:47:08
The explanation is in the post, JB. Yes, we beat those two, but the wins are indeed few and far between. As I say in the post. The narrative of him being replaced? Yeah, I'm for that if it means we're more competitive, and we win stuff. Wouldn't you be?

19 Apr 2026 16:00:24
Aye, they'll be afraid to play us. Stop drinking.

19 Apr 2026 14:58:01
McNeil didn't even look. Useless.

19 Apr 2026 12:34:59
Good stuff cookie we are in the driving seat today 3 points it is mate.

19 Apr 2026 14:57:53
The ref's in the driving seat GB, and he's having a stinker.

19 Apr 2026 12:10:37
Even when we have been the in-form team in the past and had a better team than this one, I have never been positive about a result in this game.

Not sure what is different about today but I am convinced we beat these and carry on with our charge into the CL.

I am feeling positive like GB. We win this today.

COYB UTFT's!

19 Apr 2026 13:29:57
Good stuff, BN.a. Tarks special would be good to get the first of our goals today, mate.

18 Apr 2026 20:46:18
As it stands go 6th with a win and 2 off of 5th place. Looking at remaining fixtures, we got a chance once we bury them lot tomorrow!

18 Apr 2026 22:05:43
A win is a must. Lose, and we are in a fight with four or five other teams. It would not be impossible, but the odds will be against us to get into Europe if we lose tomorrow.

18 Apr 2026 23:19:08
A win would be great, and we all want it. I don't agree that it's must win though, and we'd still stand a good chance of qualifying for Europe without one. Plenty of football to be played after tomorrow.

19 Apr 2026 07:56:06
I think. It would have been a must win if Brentford, Chelsea and Brighton had won. I make today a free hit now. Table says gone from 8th to 10th but still a win off 6th even if we don't win.

19 Apr 2026 10:47:46
Agree, Mike. Lose today and that could potentially stop the momentum right there. People saying we could get Champions League, but we could easily finish 10th or lower. I believe today will be pivotal to how we finish the season.

19 Apr 2026 11:03:20
12 points, whether that's 4 wins or 3 and 3 draws, would be an outstanding return. Other teams around us have to play each other and so will drop points. A win today would be a huge step in the right direction. Hope we go for it.

19 Apr 2026 11:54:13
3 points today would be massive for us.

{Ed025's Note - wouldn,t it just mate..

18 Apr 2026 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Anonymous Woolback has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool Fear a Collapse After Klopp's Departure

17 Apr 2026 23:40:03
Everton U21s 8 - Ipswich 4

Braiden Graham 4 goals. What a performance by the youngsters.

18 Apr 2026 08:47:02
Didn't see it but judging by the scoreline it looked like a very cagey match. ?

18 Apr 2026 10:37:20
Heard a lot about Graham, although I've not seen him play. Clearly, people are very excited about him, but I've also read that he's quite a small lad, and maybe not big enough to play in the Premiership. Are these legitimate worries?

18 Apr 2026 13:38:07
Owen, Aguero, Messi? All small players.

18 Apr 2026 13:45:47
But he's not at their level, Brass..

We will only know if we give him a try, but Moyes only likes to play one target man up front. He's more like a Radzinski or Cottee type player, I reckon. Could be good with the right partner.

18 Apr 2026 15:06:05
That size shout doesn't fly anymore. He is 5ft 9, hardly small in today's game.

Juninho, Lennon, Bernard, Ryan Fraser, Alexis Sanchez, Joe Allen all managed PL careers just fine.

This kid looks tenacious as well. I am not saying, ability-wise, he is good enough, but writing him off as not being ready because he is small is bizarre.

18 Apr 2026 16:10:43
Exactly Bn, size does not matter, by the way, Ndiaye is 5ft 10 and a bit, is he too small as well. ????

18 Apr 2026 18:49:41
Size doesn't matter as he plays more comfortably in no10 roll. Plus my lass always tells me size doesn't matter. ?

18 Apr 2026 20:05:40
. ?????

18 Apr 2026 22:11:01
Not sure why Moyes prefers to bring on Barry to sulk and look disinterested rather than give Graham a chance. Moyes is a good Manager, but will never be great until he gets this too small, too young attitude out of his repertoire.

18 Apr 2026 23:17:20
Because Barry is a target man and Moyes plays a system that needs one. Graham is not a target man.

18 Apr 2026 23:58:25
Why does his system need a useless target man that can't control the ball or can do anything that resembles football?

19 Apr 2026 10:51:30
So the lad doesn't have a future with the club then? From what I have seen of him, he is a very good finisher, so either Moyes changes his system or one has to go. But which one?