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03 Jul 2024 14:53:17
Feels mad to have 3 players in when deadline day is nowhere near in sight. Don't know how much we have to spend but we could be about to miss a trick on the two lads from Hull. Ipswich are in talks to sign them both according to ssn.
We have been linked with them for a while and, although I haven't got a clue how good they are, they both play in positions that we could do with strengthening. Any of the eds know if we have any concrete interest in Greaves and Philogene? Or have Ipswich now become favourites to sign them? Cheers in advance.
{Ed002's Note - Everton have to be very careful about their spending and will need to sell to raise funds.}
1.) 03 Jul 2024 15:17:22
This is the worry. Hope we don't miss out.
Sell Onana, get these 2 in, another loan in and be quite happy.
Are we talking 1 big sell Ed IE Onana £40-50million, Calvert Lewin £25million + to address issue or more work required?
{Ed002's Note - Everton have huge financial issues still, so they need to be careful in the marketplace.}
2.) 03 Jul 2024 16:11:57
Sell DCL and we'll be fine.
3.) 03 Jul 2024 16:32:39
Sell DCL who plays up top?
4.) 03 Jul 2024 17:09:46
Greaves is quality. Phily is quality very skillful but goes missing when heat on, gives Demarai Gray vibes.
5.) 03 Jul 2024 17:27:08
I imagine we need to do more than sell Onana if we wish to buy players.
Lille have a considerable sell-on clause. I think it may be as high as 30%. I think we bought him for £33 million, so if we were to sell him for around £50 million then it would represent little to no profit.
Dobbin and Tim cancel each other out.
Godfrey fetched us around £10m.
Ndayie cost around £17m.
Seems there is work to do.
6.) 03 Jul 2024 17:33:25
Cheers Ed002. I should have said I'm expecting Onana to go very soon, hopefully it won't mean we have to sell him an JB this window as well, to free up some funds. Haven't a clue if only selling one of them will help in all honesty.
7.) 03 Jul 2024 20:50:25
Blue nose I may be wrong but I'm sure that the sell on would only be on the profit if as u say we paid 33m and get 50 mil that would be 17 mil profit 30% to lille would be 5.4m so leave us approx 11.6m obviously minus other costs so a little profit hopefully.
8.) 03 Jul 2024 21:09:05
Surly after paying the 5.4m that would leave us with 44.6m?
9.) 03 Jul 2024 21:57:07
You could be right there James mate. Let us hope that is the case anyway. I guess 30% is a bit steep as a sell-on fee alone.
01 Sep 2023 14:28:59
According to Romano, Maupay could be on his way to Brentford in season long loan deal. Have any of the Ed's heard anything about this? Ta in advance ??.
31 Jul 2023 13:05:25
According to Romano, we have agreed a deal in principle with Sporting for Youssef Chirmiti. No mention of fee. We will see if this is another damp squid or if it has actually got legs soon enough. Any info on this guy, eds? Thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - Youssef Chirmiti (S) Sporting were surprised when Bournemouth asked after him given they have come to the clonclusion he will never be good enough and goal scoring ability seems to be missing - and that causing a rejection for loans to lower league sides Torreense and Feirense. A third-party has been offering him to sides in the EPL - hence the surprise at the interest of Bournemouth. Hard to see how he could get a Work Permit for England. and the PL.}
1.) 31 Jul 2023 13:38:02
I thought there was a new rule relaxing work permits for a certain amount of players?
I could be wrong though?.
{Ed002's Note - Only if commitments are given for English and Welsh players with a view to increasing future HG and CD quotas - so it is not attractive as it sounds.}
2.) 31 Jul 2023 13:41:12
Nice to have a bit of context thanks Ed002 for the info. Looks like if we do sign him he would need to be loaned out to try to get WP ala Onyekuru so pointless really.
{Ed002's Note - Everton could pay well over the odds or apply for an exception based on talent.}
3.) 31 Jul 2023 13:55:21
Thanks ed002. We're obviously desperate to get any forward in aren't we!
4.) 31 Jul 2023 13:59:58
Happy to give the lad a chance, I do hope he’s the first of 2 strikers through the door though. Can we rest our hopes on a 19yr old in a relegation scrap? … I still hope a deal for Dia could be done.
5.) 31 Jul 2023 13:59:58
Happy to give the lad a chance, I do hope he’s the first of 2 strikers through the door though. Can we rest our hopes on a 19yr old in a relegation scrap? … I still hope a deal for Dia could be done.
6.) 31 Jul 2023 14:06:37
I heard the new rule but didn't fully understand it. thank you for explaining it in a bit more detail Ed?.
7.) 31 Jul 2023 14:33:49
If we pay over the odds, we may as well change the club symbol to one of the mugs you can get in the souvenir shop….
8.) 31 Jul 2023 14:49:29
All sounds like anothe Moise Kean to me. Hoping i'm wrong.
9.) 31 Jul 2023 15:28:42
At least MK had scored a few goals in a decent league at the time of purchase, chalkie. Suppose you can't read too much into stats but his goal return is a worry. Is it a case of get whoever we can now as long as they play as a striker? Board and owner are screwing this club yet again.
10.) 31 Jul 2023 15:30:38
Isn't this "paying over the odds" an oxymoron? Or is a jar of Strawberry jam from Bills garden and a couple of FMs old Saville Row suits the currency we are dealing with? Maybe the players have had a whip round?
11.) 31 Jul 2023 15:35:48
In the end we made money on Moise Kean! I can’t see that happening with this lad as Eds who know far more than me don’t sound like they think it’s a clever signing! I’m hoping this one doesn’t come off!
27 Jul 2023 05:44:24
Any truth to the rumour that Pickford is out for 3 months? Heard it was due to a fractured wrist but not sure if it's true or not. If so, this is going to be another long season. JP has practically kept us up in the last two seasons, we've got a pensioner and an untried keeper as back up. Could it get any worse?
1.) 27 Jul 2023 09:35:39
Be very odd if the club were keeping that quiet, wouldn’t it?
2.) 27 Jul 2023 09:38:20
Untried keeper! Really.
3.) 27 Jul 2023 11:14:44
This club it wouldn't surprise me. Selling the lights and fittings probably why he hasn't been sold. Feels like we are jacking off the dog to feed the cat.
4.) 27 Jul 2023 15:44:37
It was mentioned to me in work last night, lad showed me a Twitter post by someone called Steve Brown (possibly the wrong name) . Hence, why I asked the question here. I'm not very clued up when it comes to Twitter admittedly.
Dfs, yes an untried keeper. How many prem games has he played? For us or for any other team? How many games has he even played for us?
5.) 27 Jul 2023 16:43:22
Virginia is a very good keeper and perfectly able to play in the Prem.
6.) 27 Jul 2023 17:12:16
In your opinion, dfs. We won't know until he is given a go and, as yet, I don't think he has played a premier league game for us or any other team. At least one of his loan moves didn't go according to plan did it? You're just splitting hairs again.
Haven't seen anything else on JP being injured so it's more than likely a wind up. Glad I don't pay much attention to Twitter ?.
7.) 27 Jul 2023 17:48:44
Well he has been on loan plenty of times dfs and didn’t he get dropped last season and loan terminated early the year before? Hardly instills confidence!
8.) 27 Jul 2023 22:23:03
Exactly, Rlchris. Unless some fans have been following him around to watch him on his loan moves, I fail to see how they can make judgement of how they will play in the premier league. Some just seem intent on arguing no matter what mate.
9.) 27 Jul 2023 23:05:54
I feel that Virginia is more than ready to step up. He’s still relatively young but had a great game against city last season. Made some great saves this pre season too
Not sure if Pickford is injured or not though.
10 Jul 2023 12:55:50
So the squad has been named for pre-season training camp has been selected with two glaring omissions, Holgate and Gbamin. Not sure if either have an injury or whether this is an indication of a couple more expected out of the door before the season starts. Anyone know any more on this?
{Ed002's Note - Everton will exclude players they are looking to move on including Holgate and Gbamin. Others who are not 100% fit will stay back to assist their recovery.}
1.) 10 Jul 2023 13:31:30
It is a pretty depressing squad to be honest, 28 players of which I would only want to see maybe 8 or 9 max anywhere near our matchday squad and half of those on the bench at best.
2.) 10 Jul 2023 13:40:51
No Mykolenko either, don't think he is injured so are we looking at moving him on? Would he be a big loss?
{Ed002's Note - He won't be there as he works on recovery from his end of season injury.}
3.) 10 Jul 2023 15:20:48
Both of them need to find another Club we need to move on from those type of players.
4.) 10 Jul 2023 15:49:07
Mykenko’s been playing for Ukraine since the end of the season hasn’t he?
{Ed002's Note - Yes and Everton are not pleased about it - he is still recouperating.}
5.) 10 Jul 2023 19:49:58
There is a joke there somewhere but no doubt someone would attempt to 'take over it'.
6.) 10 Jul 2023 22:04:09
Gbamin sold all of his EFC training gear online not so long ago, could be the reason he's not there ?.
7.) 11 Jul 2023 13:15:17
Did hear Holgate might have got injured in training before they went (although I know I'm the only fan who still actually likes him)
8.) 11 Jul 2023 21:53:02
Yeah, YT, wishful thinking on my part mate. Those left behind are having niggles treated back here it seems mate.
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26 Oct 2024 22:44:08
Haven't listened to what the manager has to say about that game but I believe he will be happy with what he served us up this evening. Why has going the gane become such a chore? I leave the house full of optimism, for the most part, but within a minute of kick off I just know how the game is going to go. SD has made us the most predictable team in the league, possibly the country.
If we were a quality counter attacking team, I could understand why we sit back so feckin deep week after week. But we're not so why do we give up so much possession at home to teams that, no disrespect to Fulham, who haven't got the greatest team in the league? Winds me up just as much as the constant passing it back to JP, only for him to lump it up front and we lose possession.
Harrison was awful. We should not be signing him on a freenin the summer as he isn't good enough. He offers nothing whatsoever and, when teams see him and Young playing on the same side, they must be licking their lips. Big weak link for us.
Beto, rate him or not but he tries. Not the best player, and I'm one of his biggest critics, but credit where it is due. He outs himself about hut is erratic! Fair play to him tonight, he earned us a point out of nothing. Gana played well tonight and Youngs pass for the equaliser was superb. 7 months at most with SD in charge, I'm counting down the days me tbh. UTFT.
1.) 27 Oct 2024 07:10:42
Think we are all pleased for Beto BP. It’s such a shame we can’t take the game to the opposition when at home.
2.) 27 Oct 2024 08:00:08
I would have Beto before CL anyday, CL wants out.
3.) 27 Oct 2024 09:54:32
Until we start playing two strikers no loan striker is going to do anything. Even pushing Keane up with Beto gave them problems straight away.
4.) 27 Oct 2024 10:24:56
A few tweaks here and there, BR, and I think we could actually have a go at teams. Just sick of this defending so deep and inviting pressure, even against the 'smaller' teams. It's a hard watch mate.
Lee, I honestly would keep Beto on the bench as that is the only way he will be effective for us, cameo roles here and there. He works hard but looks so far out of his depth, regardless of his goal yesterday. The first thing the new ow ers need to sort for us is a proper striker that can actually find the back of the net most games.
NFM, even putting MK up front was a strange one, he could have put JB on for MK and left dcl up top with beto. I'd have liked to see dcl with someone next to him so he doesn't have to run the channels on his own.
5.) 27 Oct 2024 11:39:22
Think most fans are upset this season because of exactly that BP. We definitely are far from relegation fodder this season yet we are setup in a retarded way and causing problems for ourselves we needn't. If we played and old fashioned 442 we'd easily be lurking on the edge of top 10. We don't need to be playing this way, we have some talented players. 2 seasons ago we needed to play like this but now it's the cause of our problems. We only come alive when we are losing.
6.) 27 Oct 2024 15:48:22
I was going to mention that BP and you are right. But given Keane scored last week and Dom didn't I felt it was best not to mention and run the wrath of the Dom haters on here.
7.) 28 Oct 2024 08:54:15
Agree with most of that, FBS, bar the fact that I think we can still get dragged into the relegation battle. If we keep playing like we did the other day then we will be in trouble come end of season.
BB, even the most ardent anti DCL fans must be able to see the donkey work he puts in, to his own detriment. He'll never score when he is being made to drift into the channels imo. I agree with them on one thing, he needs to find the back of the net more often. Beto may have scored but he's definitely not the answer.
06 Sep 2024 14:55:31
Sorry for premature posting, fat fingers pressed wrong button! Try again!
Martinez
P140, W60, D39, L41, 42.6 %
Koeman
P58, W24, D14, L20, 41.38 %
Allerdyce
P26, W10, D7, L9, 38.46 %
Silva
P60, W24, D12, L24, 40 %
Ancelotti
P67, W31, D14, L22, 46.27 %
Rafael
P22, W7, D5, L10, 31.82 %
Lampard
P43, W12, D8, L23, 27.91 %
Dyche
P66, W23, D17, L26, 34.85 %
I've left out any caretaker role and just concentrated on those who became actual manager of the club.
It's hard to draw comparisons due to the different amount of games they were all in charge for but you can draw your own conclusions.
Stats don't tell the entire story, the RK and SA season was one of torture playing style wise yet the stats say they both did OK that season.
Out of them all, as with many of our fans I'd imagine, Carlos was by far the best we've had under FM. If only he hadn't attempted to bring a Real Madrid player in on loan, we may have kept him for another season.
1.) 06 Sep 2024 15:21:09
Very interesting but it is not just about statistics but about the entertainment quality. Yes it is nice to win and it is a business so winning more than loosing is necessary. But it also has to be entertaining and of such quality that you want to watch more of it and it will attract more supporters. SD quality football is just dire and after a while even born and raised Evertonians like myself will tire of it and I can't imagine anyone who begins to support a club would pick Everton under SD.
2.) 06 Sep 2024 16:02:58
Totally agree, BM, not many on the list have offered us much in the ways of entertainment over the last 10 years or so mate. I did say you can't really compare the stats to any great effect. There are many variables that can distort the stats, quality of the squad being one example.
I think SD is on borrowed time and, luckily for him, there doesn't seem to be anyone making the major decisions behind the scenes right now. That said, another couple of defeats on the bounce should probably see him shoved out the door and then we start again! The FM era promised so much but hasn't lived up to hype.
3.) 06 Sep 2024 21:13:26
I think we were z better watch under martinez but slightly more dynamic under carlo. The rest were sh*t.
4.) 07 Sep 2024 09:29:20
Martinez in his first season had us playing well, dentie, but his management of defensive play was brutally exposed the next year. It was hard not to like the man but his stubbornness got him the boot in the end. Gutted that we couldn't go to the games under Carlos, by far my favourite manager for some time.
5.) 07 Sep 2024 17:39:26
I agree bluepotato but that 1st season for martinez was something else lol.
6.) 07 Sep 2024 19:31:53
Think the players bought have a big say in the win ratios. It’s scandalous to think of all the money we have wasted over the years. If we had bought some quality players, some of those managers might have won more. Martinez did have Lukaku which made a big difference.
7.) 08 Sep 2024 06:41:26
It makes you think what could have been if FM had taken advice from people who knew what they were talking about, BR.
8.) 09 Sep 2024 14:52:31
when the business that is Everton football club, is this skint and broken, staring in to the black hole unless an unrealistic super bidder comes to save the day
then the entertainment value of football isn't actually a factor anymore, it doesn't matter as a business, sad as that is.
the only thing that matters is EFC remaining to be a PL side, keeping the PL money intake to give themselves any hope of staying afloat until said new owners do happen.
17 Aug 2024 12:21:28
First game is here and I'm feeling quite optimistic about today. Let's hope the team turn up and perform and give us something to smile about come tea time. 2-0 I'm lumping cash on, so probably best tou all avoid that bet as I'm shocking at predictions! However you're watching today, hope you all enjoy the return of the Premier league. COYFB.
1.) 17 Aug 2024 13:30:23
With you there buddy, looking forward to the match.
2.) 17 Aug 2024 13:30:31
If you are that bad at predictions can you lump some cash on 1,2,3-0 Brighton? Also 2-1 Brighton please.
3.) 17 Aug 2024 13:56:27
Keane and young start definitely a penalty conceded.
4.) 17 Aug 2024 13:58:01
Keane starting. My optimism has just expired.
5.) 17 Aug 2024 14:13:49
Have to say the line up has dampened my enthusiasm for today a little. still hoping for a good result regardless.
6.) 17 Aug 2024 14:20:11
Wouldn't feel to confident, Young and Keane starting in defence.
7.) 17 Aug 2024 18:24:41
Is there anyone on here that didn't think we would struggle once they seen the team sheet? Last season Michael Keane played at the start of the season and cost us a few games with his mistakes. He usually has a steady enough game if the opposition like hoofing the ball upfront but there's always a costly error in him.
Young was a liability (errors and red cards) in defence for most games he played last season. I thought Dyche would get sacked if he stuck with Keane last season, but fortunately he didn't and we tightened up at the back.
Now here we are 12 months later and Dyche has resorted back to playing these 2 in defence. If he gets sacked, he only has himself to blame for sticking by the same players that have continually proven they are not consistent enough for the EPL (Keane, Young, Holgate, McNeill, Harrison etc). Definition of madness is trying the same thing over and over but expecting a different outcome.
11 Apr 2024 00:08:00
When will the 777 saga finally end? A process that allegedly takes around 12 weeks to sort yet here we are still waiting for this protracted takeover.
Reports today suggest that 777 want more time to raise the funds to complete the deal. If this is true then it doesn't bode well for the future. All saleable assets will be gone this summer rather than the one or two most fans had come to terms with. The fact that they need time to raise cash should surely be a massive red flag? I'm hoping that the Premier league do us a solid and pull the plug on this group.
I understand, and appreciate, that 777 have been keeping us afloat for a few months but I also doubt they were doing it out of the kindness of their heart, they obviously have other motives. This deal doesn't seem like it will move the club forward in the future. FM, as the Esk says, should put the club back on the market and let other interested parties, if they exist, to come forward with other proposals. We can dream anyway.
1.) 11 Apr 2024 09:33:56
Selling and buying a business will take as long as it needs to take, forget all the media trash they won't have a clue what is going on. 777 will be undertaking due diligence around the sale and if they are happy with the outcome will propose to buy the club. That proposal will either be accepted by the owner or not. If not they will negotiate until they find a suitable outcome for all parties or the deal will not go through.
2.) 11 Apr 2024 11:14:43
I get these things can take time, SA, but there have been plenty ty of red flags during this period. As ed025 said a while back, it's like out of the frying pan into the fire with 777. It's worrying that they need more time to generate the funds when there are, allegedly, one or two other groups with interest in us. If 777 get over the line then I can see it being ground hog day for the foreseeable. The time taken doesn't bode well imo mate.
08 Apr 2024 14:02:32
So, in their wisdom, the league have deducted another two points from us. Do the club take this on the chin or appeal the decision again?
1.) 08 Apr 2024 14:23:05
They have said they are going to appeal in a club statement.
2.) 08 Apr 2024 14:42:37
Surprised they have released a statement so fast, BR, usually takes them at least a day! Will have a read now, ta mate.
3.) 08 Apr 2024 15:37:18
It's no secret that we've been in a financial mess for years as Ed002 has mentioned many times we've spent beyond our means. We however have no option but to appeal because that would now be 8 points in total taken off us. Even if they win the appeal and can get it to 1 point it's something to celebrate.
I really have massive doubts about us staying in the league this year because we simply don't score enough goals. Obviously without the points deductions we would be doing relatively ok. I admit we are boring to watch. I really hate the hoofball style of play. We need to stop wasting chances because time and games are running out. Really important games coming up soon that are games we simply cannot afford to drop points in.
23 Oct 2024 13:13:58
Unfortunately, we won't know until they rock up and take over the club, skylark. We've just got to hope that they are considerably better than what we've endured the last 8 years or so. Everything in life comes with a certain risk but I think we should all hold our tongues until they give us something to moan about! The day FM leaves is going to be a good day for the club, the start of a new era. Hopefully it is a successful era and better times are in touching distance.
19 Oct 2024 18:38:53
They might not be players that we want to rely on week in and week out but, to be fair, the last couple of games they've both done ok.
03 Sep 2024 20:28:43
Thought so, fbs. He's still stealing a wage at half the price really.
03 Sep 2024 14:28:33
I thought it was reported when he first arriv3d that it was 2.5m per season. Still too much like.
22 Aug 2024 17:25:20
He's a spring chicken compared to Young! Don't see any harm in a loan if there is truth to this rumour, it is a position that we need to cover and he can play on the left as well.
Sobs, I heard that rumour a while back, was t sure if there was any substance to it at the time. Bet there's a few clubs with this sort of thing happening.
04 Nov 2024 15:21:53
My point is, do we really expect them to be up there in those positions come end of season? Totally agree with the villa comparison, they have a quality manager and a good team. Forest will drop off soon enough I'd expect anyway. Not sure who they have played so far but that could have a bearing on their current position.
For us, even if we were in say the top 8, it would be a false position given the way the clown sets us up to play.
04 Nov 2024 14:27:46
Villa maybe mate but Forest? They've started well but that could change very quickly I think. Their owner is just as mad as the one we've got right now!
Can't argue with the rest, pal. Change needs to come sooner rather than later.
04 Nov 2024 13:41:19
To be honest, jb, the one he missed the other day was easier to score than the one he netted against Fulham. Young pinged the ball across with a volley and he got on the end. This one he was on his own with an open goal! I'm sorry but that should have been in the net and the outcome could have been different. Beto is too erratic for me and I just don't think he's good enough for this level. If SD continues in his job then beto might be better in the championship but he's definitely not premier league level from what I've seen of him, he just looks like an awkward footballer. I don't want to be too harsh on the lad as he works hard and obviously wants to make a go of it, maybe he would be better if he was playing alongside someone up front but do we think SD will go with that formation? Highly doubtful really, he only has one way of playing.
If SD somehow manages to keep his job then December might be when the trigger is pulled, those fixtures are brutal considering the form we are in. One thing is certain mate, something has to give, and soon, as we look like a team that has accepted its fate. We need fresh ideas, a style of play suited to the team selection and not sit behind the ball inviting even the worst teams in the league to have a go at us. This just reminds me of the Fat Sam days, just this time we probably have an inferior squad to back then. It's worrying times right now and we need the board, either the clueless idiots in charge now or someone from the TFG party to grow a set and sort this mess out once and for all. Before it's too late.
04 Nov 2024 13:06:43
Agree totally mate, can't see us getting much from December if recent form is anything to go by. The only bonus being that if, as expected, we get too few points on the board, SD will surely be handed his p45. That's the only silver lining to us getting dragged back in the mire.
03 Nov 2024 17:00:27
Let's hope they have, gb, as we can't continue in the same way and expect to stay in this division.
Agree with all of that bar the beto comments, jb. If dcl had missed that then this site, and many others, would have been up in arms. That was a sitter, no two ways about it. It was an expensive mistake too as they went down the other end and scored. He got a bit lucky with his touch to set himself up for the disallowed goal but, to be fair, he is a bit unorthodox at the best of times. He did take the shot very well and was a bit unlucky to be ruled offside. I still don't think this lad is the anwer, the sooner Broja is fit then the better to give dcl that much needed competition.