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09 Jan 2025 18:17:58
Lots of chat about Dyche and DCL falling out and as a result DCL refusing to play tonight, to avoid being cup tied.
1.) 09 Jan 2025 22:58:39
If that’s the case I would start him for every game this month and bring him off after the third minute Representative of the goals he’s scored this season. Then sell him on deadline day. Only though to a team that’s not in the cup still. Utter disgrace if this is true.
28 May 2024 15:32:34
This Phillips rumour is clearly a non-starter, where on earth would we find the money from to cover his wages? He's on £150k per week, we don't have that do we?
Maybe SD can pull of a blinder and suggest that City cover his wages in return Everton won't mention the 100+ charges of financial wrongdoing.
1.) 28 May 2024 21:11:12
How can a team afford to have players on £150k a week on the bench or as squad players? We are never going to be able to compete with that!
2.) 28 May 2024 23:38:19
I think you’d find it would be a percentage of his wages and I’d definitely take him, he’d work well in Dyche system.
3.) 29 May 2024 12:08:43
I really don't understand the hype about this lad and never have.
4 seasons in the PL. 1 goal and 3 assists. Everyone who rates him, raves about his passing, so you would expect the assists to be a little higher, surely. I know he is a DM but look at the numbers some other lads put up in the same position.
Rice - 22
Rodri - 20
I understand they are the top DM's, so here are some lesser names and some have hit these numbers over less seasons.
Bruno G - 14 (in 2 seasons)
Douglas Luiz - 17
JWP - 23
Gallagher - 17
Soucek - 9
Jensen - 12
Norgaard - 11
We already have bad luck with injuries and this lad is another made of paper. His professionalism has been called into question by Pep, as he was seen as overweight when he couldn't get into the City team.
Moyes and Dyche aren't worlds apart in their styles and he couldn't even get into West Ham's 11.
Man City would probably cover 50% of his wages and that would still sit him on 75k a week.
He would represent another terrible signing imo and would be a case of not learning our lessons again. There are much better options out there that are cheaper, more reliable and come with way less risk of hitting the ground running.
4.) 29 May 2024 14:20:39
To be devil's advocate. He strikes me as one of those players who is on his own baffling to most and uninteresting in every (sorry SD speak) metric but makes those around him shine. Stats can be a load of old tosh to the water carriers. The guy made Leeds click made England click for a while and scored a massive move to the worlds No1 club at the request of Pep G! . Not sure how he's not good enough for a relegation club like us all of a sudden. Sure he's had a bad loan at Wham but long injury and then added to no football for best part of a year it's not really surprising he didn't shine in a few starts and some sub appearances. He was also notably fat. If we can get him cheap cheap cheap and City sub most of his wage then I'd have him in a flash. Could be a clever move by city to find him a team where the squad is thin and he will get minutes and a lot of minutes to find some form to boost his resale value and help get some of the £45m back. At the moment he's barely worth £10. A fit Philips is a good replacement for Onana/ Gomes. Oh and he shares stats with em too for those of you that like that sort of thing.
5.) 29 May 2024 16:53:48
All fair points mate. It's not that I don't think he is good enough for us. I just think that given our current restrictions in the market we can ill afford another big/ biggish name to come in and not deliver. The fact that he let himself get overweight when he is a professional athlete at arguably the best club in the world screams all the wrong things. It is integral that we get our loan spots right this season and avoid another Danjuma type.
I think at least some part of the City move may have had something to do with the fact he ticked the homegrown box and they were thin on the ground in that position at the time having lost Fernandinho.
Personally I would rather avoid the uncertainty over whether he can recapture the form that made City go after him and go after Ndidi with instead. He wouldn't cost a penny in terms of a fee. He is still a good age. He has much more experience in the league than Phillips. Always posted cracking numbers defensively, some seasons out performing Gana. Seems to have picked up attacking numbers this season just gone, albeit in a lesser league but it can't be underestimated the added confidence this will give him moving forward.
It is much easier to get a solid player in the CDM position than the attacking positions. I think using a loan on the attacking mid or wide player is wise, as those players come at a premium, at least the ones that can make a difference to the team. Trying to get somebody that is surplus to requirements at one of the bigger sides on loan is a better bet for me.
{Ed025's Note - if KP was on a free and he would play for £10 a week i would still say no, bloody awful player..
6.) 30 May 2024 11:52:23
Think we would be signing another Delle Alli for me. To much to young, hyped as the next big thing for England and believed all the hype.
24 Jun 2023 18:33:37
We seem to be getting linked with the entire Leeds' squad. Probably just lazy journalism with the latest being Rodrigo. Ok so he scored a bit but he's 32 and on £100kp/ w. Surely surely this cannot be true. Have we learnt nothing?
1.) 24 Jun 2023 19:42:58
Rodrigo and gnoto being heavily linked today.
If Rodrigo does have a £3m release fee then may not be a bad purchase.
Gnoto looks like could be a very good player but think I saw something that said he would cost £20m+ so can’t see that one happening unless we move someone on.
2.) 24 Jun 2023 19:58:13
Rodrigo would be good at that price mate.
3.) 24 Jun 2023 20:21:19
Didn’t realise it was £3m. That’s good money actually.
4.) 25 Jun 2023 10:04:32
So pay a 32 year old 100k a week, with absolutely no sell on value? Haven’t we been down this road before?
5.) 25 Jun 2023 12:57:48
This was my original point. £3m isn’t excessive but £100k p/ w for a 32 year old looking for a final payday?
6.) 25 Jun 2023 15:41:21
Agree it seems crazy wages, especially at his age. Is that what he's on now? Surely other clubs won't offer that? But even if it was that. if you said 2 year contract at 100k a week with a £3m purchase that'd mean it's cost us £13m for the whole deal - not terrible value!
7.) 26 Jun 2023 07:38:04
If 13m is the eventual final figure, and he get us double figures each season, then that wouldn't be a waste of money. There are better players out there but we are in a pretty rubbish situation at the moment, so just get us someone who gets us goals. We miss/ need that so much.
8.) 28 Jun 2023 11:49:27
No sell on value? look at our history with players with sell on value, Siggy, Mina, Bolasie, Besic. think he'd be a good budget signing but more of a wide forward than a CF. Don't think Gnoto is worth it and he's def a winger.
05 Jun 2023 19:23:44
Hi Eds, with Ainsley Maitland-Niles being available on a free, do you think Everton will make an offer for him?
{Ed002's Note - Ainsley Maitland-Niles (RM/CM/RWB) Out of contract with agent offering him around - may look to the continent with no EPL interest right now. Perhaps a promoted side?}
1.) 05 Jun 2023 20:22:06
Cheers Ed.
14 May 2023 13:02:14
HOLGATE!
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07 Apr 2025 09:58:47
I really hope DM is more adventurous with his team selections throughout the rest of this season. We are safe and it would be great to see how McNeill, Ndiaye and Alcaraz play together, you'd hope they'd be the mainstay of the team next season. They are our most gifted attacking players but also work really hard and fit into DM's defensive system. I'd like to see Chermiti get more time too.
It's also exciting to think how Branthwaite and O'Brien might play as centre backs together which means Patterson being given a run of games at right back. I don't think this is what will happen but we will see.
1.) 07 Apr 2025 10:18:25
Would be nice to see some of the younger players given a run, see what their made of.
{Ed025's Note - im with you brass, i would have liked to have seen the likes of Chermiti and Armstrong given a run considering we are all but safe, but Dave will have his own ideas i expect mate..
2.) 07 Apr 2025 10:30:25
I think his hands has been tied by some of the average and below average players before Davey took over, and some bad injuries, we seem to be getting better on the injury front with Ndiaye and now Mc Neil back in the squad we have missed those two massively, fantastic times ahead BMD next season and more importantly a decent Team at last, will be well chuffed and so looking forward to it, it’s been a very long time coming mate going to be our best summer ever.
{Ed025's Note - hopefully GB..
3.) 07 Apr 2025 10:50:42
It ant get any worst Ed, pre Davey days are gone mate.
{Ed025's Note - i hope so GB, but im still yet to be convinced that it will be the massive turnaround that you expect mate, but i would love you to be right..
4.) 07 Apr 2025 11:30:59
No two ways about it Davey has done really well since he came in, with a few incomings and loads of outgoings, think I read 15 senior players contracts are up this summer, whole Team will be different mate.
5.) 07 Apr 2025 11:36:26
I think we are in a much better situation than we was going to be under the last manager palace and brighton away wins also leicester and spurs at home would we would of won under s. d doubt it infact i can even bet that we woudnt of even scored against the teams am mentioning we was unlucky against united had great chances to get 3 pounts away at Brentford got good point at home against liverpool aswell so my personal view moyes will steady us i do agree with chermiti an broja though and also alcaraz ed 025 i like Charlie i just don't understand why he's not starting instead of doucoura but just want to ask you mate you do you think everton or moyes want to sign him cause i'm i right he only needs play 5 more matches before the transfer can be pernament i think they don't want him and i think its a massive shame an i will be very disappointed if that scenario is true cause when i see that lad play or come of bench on his day he can be a gamechanger and offers a lot more than most that start.
{Ed025's Note - i think it may be 6 games Andy but im with you mate i think he should start mate, my only theory on why hes not playing is that we dont want him on a permanent basis..
6.) 07 Apr 2025 12:11:40
He has a buyout clause between 15_20 million if am right its not a risk we have seen what the lad is capable off and cause its everton we won't buy him and another club will and i woudnt be surprised if he thrives under another club but i think we won't sign him ed 025 mate and if i had a free pound bet in why we won't sign Charlie cause it was thelwell who got him and frieken want to start from scratch but regardless the lads got talent so be dissapointed if we don't take up the offer for pernament transfer.
{Ed025's Note - so will i Andy, i think hes a talent mate..
7.) 07 Apr 2025 12:41:38
Hope we tie him down to a contract, the guy is good.
8.) 07 Apr 2025 15:53:16
I always thought the higher up the league we are, the more prize money we get, so if that's the case, maybe that's why he's playing the tried and tested.
9.) 07 Apr 2025 18:39:42
Don't think we will move much further up the table now regardless of what team we put out. Therefore I don't think the money difference is that great. But Moyes now has an opportunity to have a good look at all his squad, including the younger players.
Let's face it there are a few who won't be here anyway, so give a couple of the younger players a go.
10.) 07 Apr 2025 19:26:32
Of course it isn't going to be a massive turnaround. City with all their money took time. Let's learn to walk first eh!
11.) 07 Apr 2025 19:37:53
Need a few good players in and a mix of the Good player we have could be exciting, but how many times like Forrest bought 2 new teams and nearly got relegated, Moyes isn't stupid and he's Scottish so he won't buy players unless he wants or needs them.
12.) 08 Apr 2025 01:57:51
With Alcaraz, it could be more to do with fitness rather than any kind of financial decision. Obviously, there's a clause that will be activated but he's been doing well since coming in and he looks like a shrewd buy for the price quoted.
Maybe the last game was one too many after the derby match a few days earlier?
13.) 08 Apr 2025 08:10:32
Well using Forest as an example look at where they are now. Get the right manager and good players in and it doesn't take that long to progress. We already have some good players, just need to add more quality.
Less graft more craft.
14.) 08 Apr 2025 08:44:24
If we don’t sign Alcaraz but keep Doucs and Harrison then someone needs their head shaken in recruitment.
Get rid of the over paid bench warmers and get some people in who are on reasonable amounts and will play games, change games, seal off leads, show a creative spark, attack the opposition, get the crowd on their feet… is it too much to ask?
15.) 08 Apr 2025 11:32:11
If we do buy harrison then it clearly shows are player recruiting is piss poor yes granted he's a runner at best but if we want to start being a mid table team and try push for top 10 then as BR has stated doucoura an harrison are no goes we can do so much better surly ?.
16.) 09 Apr 2025 11:32:44
I agree with a previous poster, it's more to do with his fitness. He came to us without much game time due to injury and then a falling out with his clubs manager and being over looked. His reputed fees are small potatoes even for us and in no way are prohibitive. However we are safe much faster than anyone responsibly could have planned and now we have the chance to renegotiate any potential deal down. Seems to me finally we are showing some business sharps behind the scenes. Like him and he seems to be hard working and can clearly play and seems flexible which EFC has always banked on multi position players. Isn't very expensive in the climate and I think he seems pretty happy too. Can't see a problem here.
15 Mar 2025 13:58:10
All of a sudden the bench looks stronger, plenty of options for DM. I like the starting XI too, thinks it's our strongest team available.
15 Feb 2025 22:53:45
What was Dyche doing? Beto actually looks like a premier league player. The team look like they can score goals, but can still be organised and hard to break down. The team look like they will score the last goal in games. There are smiles on the faces on fans. The players and fans are connected (the players handed their shirts over) . I'll say it again, what was Dyche doing?
1.) 16 Feb 2025 04:08:27
Not playing O'brien says it all.
2.) 16 Feb 2025 07:55:55
Young is so much better off the bench too.
3.) 16 Feb 2025 08:04:17
The fact is that Dyche doesn’t know anything more than his default tactic. Which meant he would not trust anything different than the 11 he prefers, even if that meant we would probably lose.
We could not have dreamed of beating Palace under those tactics but with a manager who has a vast amount of experience in comparison we end up with three points on arguably a weaker side due to injuries.
Looks like the players know how to play after all. Now I’m enjoying football again.
{Ed025's Note - me too Ace, we have a lot to look forward to, new owners new ground new manager and hopefully some new players, the future is bright...the future is Blue..
4.) 16 Feb 2025 10:40:09
Think you have that spot on TA.
5.) 16 Feb 2025 12:36:28
Did dyche create the problems we had to make himself the savior who knows I've worked with a few people that did the same think there called narcissists up the toffees.
13 Feb 2025 19:38:36
What a day. Arrived at work to be greeted by a red calling me (Everton) a 'shambles' which was very funny. Heard the word 'foul' about 100 times and 'Doucoure this Doucoure that' I've loved every minute of it! I don't think I've laughed this much since I bought my first whoopie cushion in about 1988!
1.) 13 Feb 2025 19:47:18
And yet some comments on here calling Doucoure crap. Watched him last night and back today, thought he was good.
2.) 13 Feb 2025 20:47:58
He ran his heart out last night and gave everything. Time and again that’s what we’ve asked for: passion, effort, desire etc. so sad to read about the abuse he suffered too, I hope they catch the culprits and ban them.
3.) 13 Feb 2025 20:58:25
No he wasn’t. Passionate yes but good no.
4.) 13 Feb 2025 21:03:31
There's been some absolutely disgusting posta from Liverpool fans about everton. One fella said he can't wait for the everton team to have a Munich disaster. Pure scum. And crying about a foul which led to our 2nd goal. They fouled one of our players for their equaliser. Swings and roundabouts.
5.) 13 Feb 2025 23:07:43
Must have watched a different game bmd.
6.) 14 Feb 2025 07:49:23
dmsblue these will be the same people who slagged Moyes off and never wanted him I don't think some on here have ever played football, as players play well and play poor that's called form, players don't normally play well for the whole season, but some on here think they should, I think you forget there humans and not robots, great game we deserved more .
Liverpool as a club are the most embarrassing club I've ever witness with the way they act, and most of there supporters are just glory hunters and are clueless.
7.) 14 Feb 2025 09:37:53
i love Doucoure, and the stick he get's isn't right
however he wasn't good Wednesday night, first LFC goal no idea what he's doing
chance is a good chance
outside of that didn't do much
made up for it by theatrics in the end.
8.) 14 Feb 2025 19:31:00
And sanity returns wblue2. Well said.
02 Feb 2025 21:40:11
Sorry, I know I'm being thick, but how can we sign someone else on loan, if we already have four loan signings? Have we cancelled a loan?
1.) 02 Feb 2025 22:13:37
I’m confused by the loan situation also - however I think if there’s an obligation to buy in them it makes them slightly different - could be wrong on this though.
{Ed025's Note - its all gobbledygook to me as well Dan, god i really miss ED002 at times mate..
2.) 02 Feb 2025 23:15:57
Mangala has returned to his club. That's all the input I have. It was explained a dozen times last summer by 02 to his frustration but we've all obviously forgotten the quirks. Probably time for a Google search it's a small upcoming thing in the interweb or something?
3.) 02 Feb 2025 23:23:29
Mangala’s loan has been cancelled I think.
4.) 02 Feb 2025 23:32:48
Obligations to buy do not count as loans.
5.) 03 Feb 2025 00:00:12
I asked ed1 about this in another thread, Lindstrom overseas loan with option to buy, Alcaraz is a loan with an obligation to buy subject to conditions being met. As it’s an obligation to buy it’s not counted as a loan. Mangala may have returned which would free up a loan space as well.
6.) 03 Feb 2025 00:42:21
Once he heals and if he gets back up to speed, I wonder if we may go back for him via loan or outright purchase?
If all goes well, it will be an amazing summer I hope.
25 Apr 2025 22:28:43
Feel very sorry for him. He was so close to the record. A cracking signing. Has been a proper leader of the team. Just hope she doesn’t start to count against him and that he can come back fitter and stronger.
08 Feb 2025 13:47:35
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I have a strong feeling we will finish above them in the league.
12 Jan 2025 09:29:28
That’s terribly sad news Skylark. We really need a loud and united Goodison on Weds night.
09 Jan 2025 16:25:50
He’s gone.
05 Jan 2025 20:27:28
Yeah that’s madness. Why buy another centre half?
25 Apr 2025 22:30:11
Totally agree. Should really not fear them. Can definitely take something from the game.
19 Apr 2025 17:16:27
Didn’t see the game but from the comments on here it sounds like Keane was poor? Was he at fault for the goals? If Tarks is out he’s got to play Patterson and shift JOB across surely?
{Ed025's Note - you would think so Swinners..
16 Apr 2025 17:57:40
Totally agree BB, what a disgraceful way to behave. Not only stealing, but seemingly showing off about it in the process. I believe the ban is indefinite too, which should mean he never sees Everton play again. Well done to the club.
14 Apr 2025 10:23:20
£130k is crazy money, but if we could get him on £60k (or less) for a couple more years, I think that would be ok. He’s clearly a leader, works hard, loves the club. As a squad player, I think he would be useful to have around. I would imagine most of you disagree with me; I know he’s frustrating at times and can be awful. Just me own opinion.
13 Apr 2025 21:24:34
It’s just great having optimism again. Not long ago I would be assuming we would have got 0 points from our April fixture list. All of a sudden I genuinely believe we beat Man City at Goodison and maybe even get something off Chelsea at Stamford Bridge.