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09 Dec 2019 10:40:49
Reports Emery was approached and informal talks held
Surely this is just drivel from a journo to create a story.

Southern Toffee

1.) 09 Dec 2019 12:01:07
God I hope not.

{Ed047's Note - I hope NOT for your sake either Dentie!


2.) 09 Dec 2019 13:35:47
Arsenal's worst run in 40yr and we supposedly want him as manager. Isn't mike Walker available instead.


3.) 09 Dec 2019 11:14:42
ST, ssn are saying, ''wants more time to think about it''
I 'wants' Ed02 to tell 'us' not to think about it personally 😔.

{Ed002's Note - I am travelling and can't think who I could call to confirm this, but it would be a club choice rather than the advisors who I know well. Emery would demand money and a great deal of control over transfers. One of the reasons clubs don't want to hand over full control over the transfer of players is that they don't want to refresh the squad when the coach changes. I can't see it would be a good solution but I will try and find out.}


4.) 09 Dec 2019 17:19:28
Think it was Dick Emery, Moshris advisor wanted to change his milkman.


5.) 09 Dec 2019 17:30:38
Cheers Ed, much appreciated.


6.) 09 Dec 2019 18:12:02
But didn't Emery have most of his success with Sevilla with a DoF?


7.) 09 Dec 2019 19:30:26
Right over heads.


8.) 09 Dec 2019 20:56:57
Emery says he needs more time to decide his next job. Someone leaks that Pereira is close to joining us.
Que Emery accepting the job.

{Ed025's Note - lets hope not smit..


9.) 09 Dec 2019 21:10:50
I’d have Emery over Periera, not keen on Periera at all. Saying that of the attainable coaches he’s still up there even after the Arsenal blip. Moyes, Periera don’t fill me with excitement.


10.) 10 Dec 2019 01:56:25
I think I agree with you gibbo. He's had a nightmare at Arsenal but before Arsenal Emery had a very good CV and was highly regarded.

I've only read Pereira's CV on the Echo and it's not that exciting - some successes but lower leagues and he's not stayed anywhere too long

Out of the 2 I'd say Emery if he has recovered enough from Arsenal but hopefully there are others in the hat that appeal more.


11.) 10 Dec 2019 08:56:44
I cannot say any of the candidates being touted in the press are really good enough especially reading their cv’s, we appear to be about to jump to quickly again and make another massive mistake that will inevitably cost millions!
We need to take time and appoint someone with the right credentials that understands the club and the premier league!
Saturday was a relief, a breath of fresh air but it could just be an impact result, the board need to plan carefully for the future!


12.) 10 Dec 2019 11:02:26
Good post Wakka, totally agree mate.


 

 

05 Dec 2019 12:29:37
Sky reporting Farhad Moshiri due on Merseyside today for talks with Silva.

Southern Toffee

1.) 05 Dec 2019 12:56:21
sad to see anyone lose a job before xmas, but he simply has to go. no idea who will take the job on, but we need a strong manager to kick some arse and put us back in a healthy league position, keep him even for a few weeks and we may be to late to recover.


2.) 05 Dec 2019 13:41:58
Don't be to sorry I'm sure his package will cover the Turkey and port for the big day!


3.) 05 Dec 2019 14:09:29
How many Millions is he on and compensation he will getting, phew hard life!


4.) 05 Dec 2019 14:18:22
Very true Cookie and I bet it will be a relief for him in some ways, it’s us supporters I feel sorry for going from top six challengers to fighting for survival!


5.) 05 Dec 2019 14:40:42
ahahaha sad to see anyone lose his job, yes if he was struggling for cash, he'll get millions in pounds in pay off!


6.) 05 Dec 2019 15:02:24
The cost of relegation is higher than paying him off. For me Brandts can go to. End this project and start again.


7.) 05 Dec 2019 15:14:56
He will be in warmer Portugal for winter and not in freezing Merseyside so won’t be using his payoff for heating.


8.) 05 Dec 2019 15:15:55
I like how you get your next target in early dc, now that Silva is on his way out, Brands it is then.


9.) 05 Dec 2019 16:41:16
Has it been announced that Silva has gone or just sharpening the knives for Brands early DC?
To be fair I thought the Brands project was being held back by these advisors that Ed002 mentions.

{Ed002's Note - Silva has gone subject to the settlement being agreed. The advisors belong to Mr Moshiri and are used in a wide range of roles, and many clubs use advisors. Brand' skillset is in building a culture from youth through to the first team and bringing in coaches that can support that (a la PSV, Ajax etc.). Sadly the Everton owner (and supporters) are demanding success pretty much instantly so that is what is disrupting a bigger plan.}


10.) 06 Dec 2019 10:16:20
Agree with ed002. The Brand's project makes me optimistic, there seems to be some sense to it but the owners' advisors make me pessimistic.
It's hard to work out what are Brand's choices and what are the advisors' and what are the manager's.
For example:
I don't think Silva was Brand's choice but some claim he was.
I wonder about Moise Kean. Is he a bad purchase or just hasn't been given the chance?
Why wasn't Bemingame played in defensive midfield to fill the gap there, he was playing there a couple of seasons ago and looked more solid
than Davies or Schneiderlin.

{Ed002's Note - Kean is looking for a way out.}


 

 

02 Nov 2019 21:03:00
Transfer rumours are beginning again
Morgan Sansom of Marseille has resurfaced but I think from what one of the Eds said we messed around too much with this guy so killed any deal so likely an old rumour resurfacing
Then there is a report of Boubakary Soumaré, the report talked of him being out of contract next summer so could be a free. If we were interested with him only being 20 is it only between English clubs that there is compensation for development?
Adama Soumaoro seems to be another getting linked as he allegedly wants a move to England
Unai Nunez is another who keeps cropping up in articles also linked to Arsenal
And Diego Llorente is another cropping up
With our troubles in front of goal I am surprised we aren’t linked with any strikers like Moussa Dembele despite how impossible it would be to pull it off! We have only been mentioned with other teams in showing an interest in Joe Gelhardt at Wigan and this Ronan Darcy from Bolton both very young.

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31 Oct 2019 23:22:51
Managers available are few and far between:

Mourinho people often band about but I don’t think anything would really change, better defending perhaps Allegri was touted but that was likely to drum up interest in him for elsewhere.

Ten Hag at Ajax is one I can’t see happening despite the press articles stating he could be interested. If it somehow did happen then I think the youth might have a better route to the first team.

The one there is Benitez, December the 1st is when the Chinese league ends, could he be enticed to Goodison? Would he fit in with the structure with Brands as DoF?
I do feel for Silva with the injuries but then he can’t seem to decide how or who to play or get the best out of what he has plus Gueye is a big miss in the middle!
November will be a tough month and will Silva find Black Friday comes early and he gets the boot,

Southern Toffee

1.) 01 Nov 2019 07:29:56
Gueye is a huge miss but we were lucky to keep him for the 2nd half of last season so it was inevitable he would leave. Nobody can be blamed for that.
Gbamin is going to be a big difference maker in our midfield. His first game (s) he looked exceptional. But these injuries are just our luck. Get him fit and firing and i think our defensive woes will be behind us.


2.) 01 Nov 2019 07:55:29
The latter for me, proven winner with great premium experience, wants to come ( apparently ) , no brainer IMO.


3.) 01 Nov 2019 09:36:33
I still don’t get the obsession with Benitez and why people think he’ll be good?
It was over 9 years ago he was good with Liverpool.
He didn’t do much at Chelsea when interim boss.
He was relegated with Newcastle but then managed to get them promoted but didn’t then do much.
He’s gone to China for a big payday and not doing much there either.
He has clearly said he won’t work with a director of football so why would he work with brands?
I’d rather keep Brands who seems to be making positive changes at that level than lose him to appoint a manager not willing to work in the set-up.
Again not sure why people think Benitez will be our saviour and I haven’t even mentioned his little club jibe?

{Ed002's Note - Benitez won the Europa League in his six moth stint at Chelsea.}


4.) 01 Nov 2019 10:00:42
Fair point Ed. I should have said league wise. Don’t think his winning the europa league is much good to us as a team when the closest we’ve been to European football recently is Swansea or Cardiff city away!

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea were 3rd in the league that season and also reached the semi finals of both cup competitions.}


5.) 01 Nov 2019 10:14:01
Ed002 do you think Benitez improvde what was good Chelsea squad or do you think his tenure coincided with the common change in form when a new manager comes into a club. Would you have kept him on as the manager?

{Ed002's Note - He was only employed on a temporary basis and was never going to stay beyond the 6 months. There wasn't an upturn as Chelsea had been top of the league for most of the time before he arrived.}


6.) 01 Nov 2019 11:04:34
Quite a good win percentage as well at over 58% better than at Liverpool where it was around 55% from stats I read.
Even at Newcastle with no real investment he managed nearly 43% and that’s better than what Silva has achieved with our team! 😱.


7.) 01 Nov 2019 15:36:49
GD, I think he did a good job at Newcastle to be fair to him. Especially when you consider that he had Ashley as his chairman, most of his tenure was spent battling him for transfer funds etc.
We need someone who can sort out the defence and stop leaking goals from set pieces or just sloppy play but also someone who has a bit of nous when it comes to attacking teams. Haven't a clue who that could be though!


8.) 01 Nov 2019 19:25:33
I’m not saying Benitez is the answer was more a post about potential candidates out there.


 

 

06 Aug 2019 14:29:24
Reports that Sidibe had a medical yesterday and on his way 💪🏻.

Southern Toffee

1.) 06 Aug 2019 15:29:38
Really don't know much much about him I know was in French squad so got to be ok any know how good he is.


2.) 06 Aug 2019 17:06:44
Know about as much as you myself David, I assume he must be attack minded able to get up and down the right side and put in a decent cross
Let’s hope he has a similar impact to Digne! 😍.


 

 

 

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05 Dec 2019 16:44:29
Oh my days telegraph reporting Brands has said Silva needs more time!
Not sure I believe that he’s said that
Only thing Silva needs more time for is to ensure we are relegated.

Southern Toffee

1.) 05 Dec 2019 17:48:31
If that's true I'm beginning to wonder about his football knowledge.


2.) 05 Dec 2019 17:38:28
I wish they would make their minds up and put Silva and us out of our misery. If Brands is advocating for more time for Silva and we find ourselves in the same league position in January maybe Brands and Silva should both be axed.

{Ed002's Note - They have made their minds up about Silva.}


3.) 05 Dec 2019 18:03:42
And is that to relieve him of his duties Ed?

{Ed002's Note - As opposed to what?}


4.) 05 Dec 2019 18:22:27
Sorry Ed002. I missed your post on the Rumours page "Silva has gone subject to the settlement being agreed. " All we have to wait for is the announcement of a new manager and from what you say Moyes is the most likely.

{Ed002's Note - My expectation is the two will not happen at the same time. I would guess that Everton will first say that DF is going to look after the team at the weekend.}


 

 

26 Nov 2019 22:02:18
In other news to break up the Silva chat, my mate says Chelsea Fans are getting fed up with Barkley
Would anyone have him back or is the taste still sour about the way his move was engineered?

Southern Toffee

1.) 27 Nov 2019 00:31:47
Barkley is a waster has all the ability to be a top player but even we only seen glimpses of it he’s another player that joins a list of talent wasters.


2.) 27 Nov 2019 07:43:33
Trueblue yes mate but deeper than that, the lad was better off away but London pan into fire.


3.) 27 Nov 2019 09:41:54
I have to say I wouldn’t want him back, the way his move happened never felt right to me
Also agree he does seem to be wasting his talents.


4.) 27 Nov 2019 13:18:24
Barclay is the last midfielder i no at everton to take a ball an run forward with it an beat a man An that. Was long time ago 😂🙈.


5.) 27 Nov 2019 16:03:20
The undoing of Ross, was the low life hangers on who lead him down the garden path.
Unfortunately, the same pattern seems to be emerging at Chelsea, great talent, but open to poor choice of "friends".


6.) 27 Nov 2019 17:29:46
No way would I have him back. His personal life was the reason for him leaving. As for the last player we had to go forward with the ball. I’ve seen Gomes do it many times. Barkley is not at all missed.


 

 

25 Nov 2019 20:20:08
From an article I read earlier looks like the knives are out and there’s an article that Moise Kean doesn’t get in with Silva and is waiting to see if he gets sacked
Join the club Moise, that’s what we are all waiting for 🤦🏻‍♂️.

Southern Toffee

1.) 25 Nov 2019 21:48:10
Is that the same knife that Moyes will be taking to the Leicester and Liverpool games if he's in charge? 🤣.


 

 

06 Nov 2019 23:42:32
Oh my days!
You may struggle to believe this my fellow blues but Sandro has scored something called a league goal!

Southern Toffee

1.) 07 Nov 2019 01:12:00
Got to be fake news surely.


2.) 07 Nov 2019 10:23:16
😲 ST was it an og? 😊.


3.) 07 Nov 2019 23:45:25
Lol was legit
Miracles clearly can happen.


4.) 08 Nov 2019 15:17:16
Just watch the floodgates open for him now.


5.) 09 Nov 2019 00:18:12
It would be good for us if he did go on a goal run

I was excited when we bought him but it's all been downhill since then

Some goals might help us recoup some of our investment in him and. at the end of the day, I think he always tried for us, so good luck to him.


 

 

19 Aug 2019 13:16:37
From what I have seen at the back end of last season and so far this season Digne and Bernard seem to be building a great understanding of each other’s game similar to what we had down the left side with Baines and Pienaar.

Southern Toffee

1.) 19 Aug 2019 15:34:06
Without bashing Coleman -
Sidibi and Iwobi could potentially be the same on the right side.

I think Sidibi will be great for us and I think he’ll get Coleman’s place in team.

Only problem with all of this is that if defence stays tight - we could end up losing Mina as Barcelona have buy back clause until end of this season.

Great start to season - let’s beat Villa COYB.


2.) 19 Aug 2019 19:45:36
I think the option to buy on Sidibe is a masterstroke. It secures a perm if we need it but also is a gentle nudge to Coleman that he needs to be better than last season as there is perhaps long term competition for his place by a WC winner.


3.) 19 Aug 2019 20:09:42
I might have to have a word with Brands because I need to secure my perm too. 🤣

Love your typos.


4.) 19 Aug 2019 19:55:03
Sobs, surely if we decide to sell or are you indicating FIFA/ EUFA will condone breaking contract.


5.) 19 Aug 2019 22:00:19
Well I hope he stays Sobs. Some wrote him off last season even though he was injured most of it.
Marco is the one knitting it together and training these players to be solid at the back.

Mina looks like another good signing by Marco and Marcel, let's hope the ones who come in this time are as good.


6.) 19 Aug 2019 22:07:38
I wasn’t aware of a buy back in Minas contract. It wouldn’t surprise me though as it was Barcelona we bought him off and they love a buy back them.


7.) 19 Aug 2019 22:12:30
Smit, I’ll have to do a hundred lines

“I must lern to speel butter” 😂😂.


8.) 19 Aug 2019 22:13:31
I don't believe that Barcelona have a buy back clause on Mina, do any of the ed's know the situation?

{Ed025's Note - they do actually mike, but they will have to pay 52m euro mate..


9.) 19 Aug 2019 23:43:56
Thanks Ed. It won't happen, he will be ours for a few more years.

{Ed025's Note - i think so too mike..


10.) 20 Aug 2019 04:22:57
Can one of the Eds tell me how Mina's buy back clause works if he doesn't want to go back to Barcelona?

Can he forced to go back
If he doesn't want to go back can he be sold to another team at a lower fee even if Barcelona activate their option?
I take it that this can only happen during the transfer windows

With Gomes I know we didn't have any option to buy but we had an enormous bargaining chip with the relationship between Gomes and the fans

I don't believe we are there yet in the relationship with Mina. Maybe something for us to work on?

{Ed002's Note - You cannot force a player to sign for a club.}


11.) 20 Aug 2019 09:24:56
Thanks ED

So he wouldn't have been required to be party to the buy back clause?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, it would be in his contract.}


12.) 20 Aug 2019 11:32:34
Sorry to be stupid but if Barcelona exercised their option and agreed to pay the buy back fee would Mina have already agreed terms for him to go be part of the buy back or would they re-negotiate his terms upon exercising the buy back clause and it would be up to him to agree terms then or decide to stay at Everton?

{Ed002's Note - No, you cannot force a player to move if he does not wish to. You seem to be over complicating this. It is really very simple:

(a) Barcelona sold Yerri Mina to Everton in the summer of 2018. Included in the contract was an option to buy the player back for a fixed transfer fee of €60M in any transfer window between the summer of 2020 and the January transfer window of 2023 (after which his contract expires). If Everton were to extend his contract, that clause remains active for one more window (the summer of 2023).
(b) Should Barcelona decide during one of those transfer windows that they would like to avail themselves of the option to buy him back, then Barcelona need to inform Everton (who are themselves obliged to inform the player).
(c) Should the player decide that he would like to return to Barcelona then he would tell Everton of his desire to leave and would request Felipe Russo to negotiate the personal deal for Mina with Barcelona and his own fee. If that is all agreed, then he can return.
(d) Should the player were decide his future is not with Barcelona and he wants to stay at Everton or move elsewhere, then he is free to reject any overtures from Barcelona and carry on at Everton or opt to move to another side.

In reality, the rules make it very, very unlikely that Mina will ever return to Barcelona.}


13.) 20 Aug 2019 13:09:42
Thanks ED

Just one final piece of clarification. Is the fee 60 million euro you stated or is it the 52 million euro in Ed025's post above

Thanks again.

{Ed002's Note - The fee is €60M - I assume the €8M difference is Ed025's cut. You will have to ask him.}


14.) 20 Aug 2019 13:29:37
Or its to go with the Arteta money.


15.) 20 Aug 2019 20:02:57
Ed025’s cut. Love it Ed002 🤣🤣.


 

 

 

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08 Dec 2019 13:54:57
Dunc probably told Morgan he would kick him round the training ground if he didn’t put a proper shift in!
To have pride in himself the shirt and the badge! And to earn the bloody good wages he’s paid!

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06 Dec 2019 19:42:00
Seems to have had a few sackings and never stayed anywhere too long.

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05 Dec 2019 16:41:16
Has it been announced that Silva has gone or just sharpening the knives for Brands early DC?
To be fair I thought the Brands project was being held back by these advisors that Ed002 mentions.

Southern Toffee

{Ed002's Note - Silva has gone subject to the settlement being agreed. The advisors belong to Mr Moshiri and are used in a wide range of roles, and many clubs use advisors. Brand' skillset is in building a culture from youth through to the first team and bringing in coaches that can support that (a la PSV, Ajax etc.). Sadly the Everton owner (and supporters) are demanding success pretty much instantly so that is what is disrupting a bigger plan.}


 

 

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05 Dec 2019 14:18:22
Very true Cookie and I bet it will be a relief for him in some ways, it’s us supporters I feel sorry for going from top six challengers to fighting for survival!

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27 Nov 2019 17:45:06
Love it Blue Mike
I was really excited with the appointment of Brands and how our club was going to identify youth and build a system, I just don’t see how Moshiri can keep following advice from this so called advisor
I am seriously considering hibernating and hoping things have improved when I wake!

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07 Dec 2019 07:12:16
Has Moyes come out and said he wants long term then?

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06 Dec 2019 16:12:16
Would you prefer we sacked him and had him replaced in hours like Spurs did to Poch? 🤷🏻‍♂️
I don’t think there is a right or wrong way to sack someone.

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06 Dec 2019 11:09:03
We looked at him but went with Martinez
Did well at Porto winning titles did well at Olympiacos winning the double won SIPG their first Chinese super league title
But yes was relegated with Munich
So he’s been a winner and has tasted the tough side of relegation, let’s hope he learnt from that if he’s appointed and get behind him rather than start the negativity before he or whoever else is appointed
And this weekend come on Dunc and the boys!

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03 Dec 2019 15:11:40
I’m not saying he is for me I’m just saying his results weren’t that bad and that he didn’t have loads of cash to spend
Problem for me is i haven’t a clue who would be good for us
Do we stagnate with an interim manager until the summer?
We don’t really look an attractive prospect or seem a top job
It’s a sorry state of affairs! We need to clarify where we are going and some identity
One thing from the recruitment Moyes and Kenwright did, most were a good fit for the club even if not the best players out there iron expensive.

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03 Dec 2019 12:45:24
Don’t think Moyes had unlimited funds at United in fact I think the flaw was Woodward was inept at dealing in the transfer market and they wasted too much time trying to prise out fellaini and Baines from us
He had an ageing squad that scraped over the line the season before and I think only Mourhino has had a better record than him since Ferguson
That’s not to say bring him back but it might make sense until the end of the season
I feel we have lost identity and are a very confused club, we brought in Brands to create a more sustainable system then it seems shackled his ability to do his job
We need a manage that’s going to get the team playing for him that will be hard to beat
I’d give up the pretty football right now for a run of wins!
However comes in also needs to understand we are the people’s club and what that means.

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