Everton Rumours

27 Nov 2023 22:12:31
Could I ask a question, what is the name of the Indian business man rumoured to have an interest in a takeover, and, is there any substance to it, or just media hype?

28 Nov 2023 00:01:05
I can't remember his name but I read he was worth 80 billion.

28 Nov 2023 09:53:31
Perhaps we should try and curry favour with him.

26 Nov 2023 10:25:54
I'm told our great Baxendale and past board accountant refused to appear at our last enquiry says it all.

26 Nov 2023 11:36:44
Walked away with a nice payoff, affected by nothing. No financial penalty for them or the Club. Instead it is a sporting penalty, punishing loyal supporters/ fans of the Club paying hundreds of ££££ every season.

28 Nov 2023 09:54:14
Pretty sure they didn't get called by the panel.

{Ed001's Note - they didn't.}

18 Nov 2023 10:20:14
Ed002 in your opinion what will happen with the appeal and how long will it take?

{Ed002's Note - The amount of time the appeal process takes will depend on how far it is taken in order for Everton to get a satisfactory agreement, or eventaully no agreement. The club has 7 days to notify the intent to appeal, 14 days to lodge the appeal. An independent Appeal Board will be set up and and after that the appeal will be heard and a binding appeal decision provided. The appeal will be completed before the end of the season given the nature of the punishment. Everton will not deny any wrong doing and will base the appeal on the decision of the independent commission being disproportionate. Against Everton is the determination of the punishment was made by an independent commission - not the Premier League. In the favour of Everton is that punishment is seemingly harsh.}

18 Nov 2023 11:57:24
Very comprehensive reply Ed.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

In relation to the decision and the panel, in your opinion based on who was on it and their roles within the FA and in particular the gentleman who was involved in the West Ham Tevez affair was the panel independent? And would Everton have any claims to make regarding the impartiality of the panel?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - The panels are independent of the FA and the Premier League and are impartial.}

18 Nov 2023 13:00:28
Now being reported we could be docked a further 9 points by the likes of Leicester Leeds Burnley etc if they can prove we were negligent, it gets worse and worse.

{Ed002's Note - That is incorrect. It would be the case if Everton entered Administration.}

18 Nov 2023 13:29:01
The way I read it, the report admitted we gained no sporting advantage which for me sounds like enough grounds that we shouldn't be liable for other sides going down. If there is an argument that the timing of the PTS deduction may have impacted Leicester then surely that is a claim to make against the PL not Everton? Or have I got that all wrong?

{Ed002's Note - Absolutely, you have it wrong.}

18 Nov 2023 13:29:01
The way I read it, the report admitted we gained no sporting advantage which for me sounds like enough grounds that we shouldn't be liable for other sides going down. If there is an argument that the timing of the PTS deduction may have impacted Leicester then surely that is a claim to make against the PL not Everton? Or have I got that all wrong?

{Ed002's Note - Absolutely, you have it wrong.}

18 Nov 2023 16:12:37
Thanks Ed so much rubbish being printed as always will read your articles.

18 Nov 2023 17:29:08
Thanks Ed.

18 Nov 2023 23:53:28
It is extremely unlikely that any third party could be successful in bringing a claim against Everton, and, even in that unlikely event, it would take years to go through the courts, so any talk of this driving the club into administration, is just the media generating a none story.

20 Nov 2023 19:23:52
Impartial? Have you seen who their past employers where?

13 Nov 2023 16:07:41
Rumours today, Branthwaight to Newcastle. The boy has only resently signed a new four year contract, he's playing well, has seemed happy, the person making the claim, says he is very keen, but why would he be keen to join a club, who have won bugger all since Adam was a lad .
The blues, (FFP INVESTIGATION NOT WITHSTANDING) seem to be heading in the right direction, new stadium, new owners, squad investment, and income from new ground, and at least every prospect of being once again one of the major clubs.

13 Nov 2023 17:53:50
It's coming up silly season again. Richest club in world poaching players from club who need money. It's a reporters dream.

13 Nov 2023 20:02:55
As always, I believe it when I see them holding the shirt at a press conference. Newcastle have a desperately thin squad for a club in Europe so they’ll be linked with every man and his dog. Michael Keane’s available.

13 Nov 2023 21:12:05
Itb are u really excited about these new owners, I'm absolutely dreading them.

13 Nov 2023 22:22:15
Squad investment? Intheblue genuinely can’t see that happening if 777 take over. They’re keen to get the club to be self sufficient so that would mean selling players to buy players rather than them pumping money in to the club for transfers.

14 Nov 2023 06:54:14
If jarred keeps playing the way he is only be a matter of time before the likes of city will be monitoring him lads got great potential has anybody heard about the outcome on this ffp charge yet it has went rather quiet over laat few weeks.

14 Nov 2023 08:58:27
Before you believe any of these stories check out the author. Just some nobody desperate to make a name for themselves, so come up with some half arsed story.
Honestly you or I could do the same, if we could be arsed that is.

14 Nov 2023 12:21:48
all guess work, may as well listen to a guy in the pub.

14 Nov 2023 13:22:39
Probably because nothing happening so they throw random stories out there, but, he'll leave within the next 2 years if he maintains his form, just hope we bang out a mega high price with add ons!

14 Nov 2023 13:42:14
For the record, I am far from happy at the prospect of 777 partners taking over the club, but, providing we don't get shafted by the FFP Investigation, I think we will be able to attack and alternative buy out offer.
Better owners, with real money, not trying to buy the club with borrowed money, and putting us in further debt.

15 Nov 2023 11:14:28
Personally, I am with the ''plenty of reservations'' camp as far as 777 is concerned.

15 Nov 2023 17:16:58
Sh9t for cret9ns. I've long stopped using any of these online sites. I find it frustrating when 90% of it ends up being discussed on here. The very definition of wasted time.

15 Nov 2023 23:33:50
FBS once again I find myself agreeing.

05 Nov 2023 18:13:11
Does anyone else agree an doesn't want 777 partners near the club. And could the else shed light on if they are going to pass the ffp test.

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained I don’t think they would be an ideal solution. Others, including sharks and charlatans, are still looking to buy in UK and elsewhere in Europe with several premier League sides available.}

05 Nov 2023 18:28:55
Thanks Ed but do you think they will pass the fit an proper person's test with the dodgy history they have. And sorry if its been asked before.

{Ed002's Note - The issue surrounds the airlines rather than the football clubs. They will have taken advice and will know where they stand, so it seems likely.}

05 Nov 2023 19:38:39
Thanks for the information Ed very good knowledge as usual 👍.

08 Nov 2023 23:22:39
These are the people that know a man that can, so yes they will pass.

27 Oct 2023 08:48:25
Being reported this morning there are now several new investors waiting in the wings if 777 fall though with their bid, including a group of North Americans, is this true or just the usual rubbish they print.

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained I would have kept far away from 777 Partners as I could. If it falls through for financial reasons, such as existing investors demanding loans are repaid, there are others who would likely make an offer - but perhaps not an acceptance one to the owner. Beware of Sharks and Vulture Capitalists.}

27 Oct 2023 11:38:31
Thanks Ed.

30 Oct 2023 20:22:42
Any information on who the other people are.

05 Nov 2023 18:11:05
I've heard a rumour that Mukesh Ambani could be part of the consortium.

25 Oct 2023 16:48:22
Been reported that the premier league are asking the commition for a 12 point deduction, that is nothing short of vindictive.

{Ed025's Note - the decision as far as I am aware ITB has not be announced yet. But 12 points would be a massive kick in the teeth mate..

25 Oct 2023 17:41:21
It's one of those articles. Headline is 12pt deduction, then read on and it says up to a 12pt deduction of found guilty which is a totally different thing.

25 Oct 2023 18:41:24
Was just trying to drew attention to the anti Everton agender from premier league, even if found not guilty, the severity of the punishment called for highlights how our club has been treated, time afder time.
Perhaps they could take the points from those we have been cheted of by their bent referees.

{Ed025's Note - a lot of our troubles have been self inflicted im afraid mate..

25 Oct 2023 18:48:31
EFCONE, quite agree. . . It's been a good day for the sensationalists to talk about stuff that may not even happen.

25 Oct 2023 18:51:57
Let's go back to the start. First off it won't be the commission who decide the punishment. Secondly, who quoted from the Premier league? Last line from them was they wouldn't make any comment on the case until after the decision.

{Ed025's Note - wise words Smit mate..

25 Oct 2023 19:12:55
Besides Premier League need to remember Chelse and City next in the dock after us for similar offences.

City's amount to 115 charges over 9 year. Whilst I'm not too sure about Chelsea's charges. Compared to ours of 1 charge in a year we were having our accounts supervised by the Premier League to ensure compliance.

Let's hope for consistency in their judgements and transparency of their decision making, and fairness in the penaltys handed out. (PGMOL)

25 Oct 2023 19:39:34
Let’s hope it’s better than the refs for our matches then.

25 Oct 2023 22:17:05
If they do find us guilty of FFFP breeches, I’d like to know what supervision the Prem League gave for our accounts. The club are adamant they have complied with whatever they were told by the Prem League.

It’s that or some serious wool has been pulled over our eyes.

25 Oct 2023 22:37:17
Well if VAR were looking at it then we would be fooked GB.

25 Oct 2023 22:50:45
I thought the court case related to P&S breaches but Sky News reporting this is a tax issue regarding loans on the new stadium. A lot of speculation going around but no point worrying about it until it’s actually done.

25 Oct 2023 23:36:33
Ed 025 sorry put you on spot matey but what percentage could you see us getting a 12 point deduction cause we have broken a rule what rule we don't know whether its transfers or stadium costs but its worrying times ahead is there any information you can share with us thanks for reply.

{Ed025's Note - i would be guessing Andy, the club insist they have done nothing wrong but the authorities believe different, im expecting a points deduction myself because we are first up and they will want to make an example of us mate, the only good thing is that its very early in the season and we will have time to catch up..

26 Oct 2023 07:44:51
And If ever there was a season with Teams bad enough that we could survive with a 12pt deduction, it's this one!

26 Oct 2023 08:55:24
I disagree ed025 I don't think a point deduction would the punishment for exactly the same reason. The PL would be setting a precedence that could if they were not open and transparent with other clubs that breach the rules, possibly be open to a counter claim in the courts. I think they would go for a fine or transfer embargo.

{Ed025's Note - I hope your right sa but knowing our luck they will throw the book at us mate..

26 Oct 2023 14:02:28
If this charge relates to a year when the premier league were supervising our books surely that could be deemed as professional negligence on the EPL’s part.

{Ed002's Note - Try and get away from the Merseyside obsession with trying to blame someone else. You have known about the problems for a very long time and - I have explained over and over, none of it should be a shock.}

26 Oct 2023 16:47:55
Yes I do understand that, however if transactions have been given permission by the very body that wants to then charge us that is negligent.

In my business if I advised a customer something was above board and then they got prosecuted for fraud I would be professionally negligent.

It’s not a shock, personally I think this is a political power play by the EPL to try and prevent independent regulation, by attempting to show their house is in order. Hence the seeming change in opinion from we approve your spending to charges.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with that. Stop scratching around looking to blame someone else - are you a Liverpool fan.}

30 Oct 2023 20:56:12
Anyone can see that posting losses of £430m over three seasons when the limit is just over £100m is a fairly sizeable problem. The PL may have been reviewing expenditure after the fact but it’s not unreasonable to think that if you’re running a several hundred million pound business you have the money and wherewithal to appoint people capable of adhering to whatever regulations you’re governed by.

Nobody else to blame apart from Moshiri. There’s a reason Arsenal wouldn’t let Usmanov or him anywhere near the decision making process.

It’s also not about throwing the book at us to make a point or about what City have or haven’t done. This is about the mismanagement of our club and it will be judged on that alone. Other clubs are in the spotlight for largely different reasons, so the outcome of our case will likely have no bearing on theirs.

22 Oct 2023 11:32:53
Inevitability the whole day had that inevitability about it, it's as if the club the players manager the fans the tea lady all just except we are going to get beat by Liverpool and as for the substitutions well I just give up.

22 Oct 2023 18:44:32
I have no faith in SD Skylark. I know we can't keep changing managers, but maybe 777 have someone in mind for when they take over.

{Ed025's Note - im sure some people on here think we are Man City, we are not a massive club anymore and should be grateful that someone like Dyche is willing to put his neck on the line to manage us imo, if anyone can get us up the table a bit then Sean is the very man, just my opinion of course..

22 Oct 2023 19:22:49
Grateful! Christ we have hit rock bottom if we should feel grateful. I look at other clubs who have changed and had impact managers get things going. We don't have a bad squad to what we had previously. We just don't have anyone who can use it correctly. Not having a pop at you ed, just frustrated we all see what SD can't.

{Ed025's Note - If it was that easy mate we would all be doing it, its a tough gig and it could be about to get even harder..

23 Oct 2023 09:22:17
It’s how dyche sets up and his subs and picking young/ Keane that make him look useless. When young got the first yellow he should have been taken off and garner or Patterson at right back . He could have dropped McNeill deeper into midfield with Beto or danjumma as another attacker leaving Harrison on this would have given the side more balance . Instead he tried to defend for 45 minutes with a donkey at the back total negativity . This is why in my opinion he is not right for us . I want to see us have a go at teams not hoist the white flag.

24 Oct 2023 05:10:14
It’s a tough gig that they are paid a small fortune for doing. Sorry Ed but I will never be grateful to any manager/ player for coming to us when you see the obscene amounts of money they are paid.
Let’s face it, it’s the only job I know where you can be a complete failure and still earn a fortune. Ok there’s being a politician, but that’s because there bent as f**k.

{Ed025's Note - i agree with that Harlex and think all players, managers and agents are paid obscene amounts mate, but in the context of where we are as a club i think we have the right man..

24 Oct 2023 10:38:23
I mean he didn’t pick Keane, he was forced to just try and park the bus with Youngs sending off. If that didn’t happen he’d have never be brought on.

24 Oct 2023 13:56:23
I think we should be grateful that he might keep us up again! What's done is done, the past mistakes, we can't change but we can rebuild, it'll just take a long time. as Ed says, we aren't that big club anymore, we have history but that's exactly what it is, history, nothing won since 95. So I think we should try survive the season again and small steps to stability is all we can expect at the moment, because no manager in the world is going to turn us into European contenders for many a year! !

24 Oct 2023 17:41:51
He had other options gibbo. Wasn't Godfrey on the bench? Godfrey isn't all that but he's better than Keane. Keane should be plan Z.

Also, when we have the luxury of making 5 subs bringing young off early should be a no brainer, especially when he was clearly get skinned for speed all the time.

24 Oct 2023 17:49:51
Spot on Chris.

25 Oct 2023 08:03:05
Am happy with dyche for now but as chris says bringing on keane when godfrey is there is bizarre also think he needs to tweak formations and subs during the match its like he leaves everything to late we have better attacking options then we had last year in harrison beto chemmeti danjuma dcl seems be up for it.

18 Oct 2023 00:31:13
I cannot back this up by saying from whom I heard this, but for what it's worth. Our owner has been informed from back channels that 777 are very unlikely to pass the owner and directors test, and that he should, with a degree of urgency, seek new investers.

18 Oct 2023 07:45:41
Absolute rubbish! They own how many clubs already? If Saudi PIF can pass then anyone can!

18 Oct 2023 09:18:36
Let's hope we have no idea what is actually happening and that something far more stable and a lot less controversial is coming our way from a new bidder. can't really believe anything is set in stone until the hearing in the next couple of weeks is over. If it's a favourable outcome then I'd expect a lot more interest all of a sudden. Fingers and toes crossed as this 7x mob sound like a disaster.

18 Oct 2023 11:09:21
I would agree with that FBS. Feel 777 are trying to get in early before the result of the hearing. Taking a chance all will be good.
They probably realise that no serious investors would come in until they know what it is they’re buying. So are basically taking a gamble.
Hopefully things go well for us, and we see others coming in with bids.

18 Oct 2023 11:50:46
Pure speculation all this, wait and see we could be all happy shortly.

18 Oct 2023 13:36:49
There was an article flying around earlier that says they are having trouble getting the go ahead from a certain governing financial body, FCA or something similar. I suppose there will be plenty more speculation and twists and turns until they prove, either way, that they have the funds to take over the club.

18 Oct 2023 15:28:40
Supporters including myself are desperate for a new regime but considering how few warnings we had with FM and let's be brutally honest, he did spend spend spend very poor decisions but he did put his ( er? ) money in by the bucket load. Some are vocally happy for anything new regardless of warning after warning. It'd be so Everton to go with this 777 and ignore numerous warnings and end up the biggest joke yet again with a firm who've already said they won't be putting any money in and their plan is for the club to be "self sufficient" anyone expecting a winter war chest are deluded if this mob get us. Need the fit and proper checks to take the decision for us as we can't be trusted to make it ourselves.

18 Oct 2023 17:21:10
I’m sure whoever takes over will ensure our state of mediocrity continues for the next 10 years with the occasional flirting with relegation.

21 Oct 2023 03:32:36
Am not sure how they are would pass for several other clubs then fail now but is anyone really excited about them even if they do take control. They have been protested by clubs they already control because they don’t spend so it baffles me that we should expect anything being different with us.

I have to say since moyes left this club has been run awfully, not sure who’s making decisions but when I heard we recently signed castore to make our kits after numerous clubs including West Ham looking to cut ties because they are that badly made am starting to assume we have a team of idiots in charge.

24 Oct 2023 17:44:41
Let's be serious, all that needs to happen is the right envelope goes in the right pocket and everything will be sorted in due time.

11 Oct 2023 12:28:41
ED Are there any legs to this kalvin Phillips rumour wanting to join us in January? I will be honest I have never really seen him play other than the odd game. Pep obviously doesn't rate the bloke but southgate does? Hhmmmmmm would he be another big money flop 🤔.

{Ed002's Note - Kalvin Phillips (DM) Do not rule out Manchester City letting Kalvin Phillips go in January. He has been offered around but Liverpool opted for another. Aston Villa or West Hamdid not see any value at the asking price. Newcastle may yet offer a wilcard option. I am not aware of Everton making any approach but if Onana were to be sold he may be a consideration.}

11 Oct 2023 14:34:23
Yeah if Onana were to be sold, you little tinker!

11 Oct 2023 15:57:40
I think Kalvin Philips would be an excellent signing.

11 Oct 2023 17:57:37
In place of Gana yes. But not in place of Onana.

{Ed025's Note - i think he is bloody awful Brass, surely there is better out there than him mate..

11 Oct 2023 21:13:04
We had similar in Davis. I rate these guys similar to some of us (LOL) semi-pros, mega fit headless chickens that managed to mug the coaches of the day.

11 Oct 2023 22:21:57
There probably is ed, but we don't seem to bother our asses looking.

{Ed025's Note - we are certainly not Brighton in that respect Brass, they buy young up and coming stars for buttons while we in recent years have been overpaying for mediocre has beens mate..

13 Oct 2023 22:41:05
Brighton are such a well run club, it’s embarrassing how awful we’ve been in comparison.

14 Oct 2023 21:22:02
I actually think Phillips is a decent player and would definitely be an upgrade on Gana, who unfortunately looks shot now. Had an unlucky injury and was never getting back in ahead of Rodri. Let’s be honest, we aren’t an attractive option to the best players and clearly don’t have Brighton’s scouting network, so if he’d come for a decent price and contract, I’d take him.

18 Oct 2023 03:06:08
From what I've just seen he was lucky to stay on the pitch for England and got brought off deservedly.

26 Sep 2023 18:56:19
Fresh claims (Guardian) about Moshiri recieving money from Usmanov companies.

26 Sep 2023 21:00:20
Nothing new, only the naive would think otherwise. These people (Usmanovs of this World) are extremely powerful, Countries (even our own) are in reality powerless, that is those that kind of follow the rule of Law.

26 Sep 2023 21:04:45
Yeah from way back.

26 Sep 2023 22:32:05
Powerless until Russia invaded Ukraine and then they froze his uk assets and Moshiri no longer sugardaddy. Hence we are currently struggling to pay our commitments.

27 Sep 2023 12:41:12
Usmano is the owner, not Moshiri.

27 Sep 2023 19:46:58
And where is your proof on that statement Lee?

27 Sep 2023 22:46:11
Moshiri has his own wealth and prior to investing in Everton was worth personally 7.3 billion.
Usamanov was considerably richer making the worlds top 100 rich list at about 93 billion prior to the war.

Moshiri didn’t need Usamanov’s money.

27 Sep 2023 23:28:59
Also Moshiri was the CEO for one of Usamanov’s companies, megafon or one of the others, which he had to resign from once the uk government froze Usamanov’s assets. He was also Usamanov’s accountant so no big surprise really that moshiri received money from Usamanov’s companies, these journalists are really trying to make a story out of nothing.
Probably 777 are proving to be above board and they’re now trying a different angle.

28 Sep 2023 06:07:41
To think he is an accountant… what happened to our finances?

28 Sep 2023 10:29:47
Too many special friends and trusted advisors giving him bad advice and thinking that big salaries and Hollywood signings bring success and failing to standby some managers and supporting the wrong ones for too long . I think his biggest fault was not listening to the right people.
It’s a shame really he wanted and I believe still wants the best for the club . He’s just not got football in his bones if that makes sense and couldn’t see how he was getting it wrong, the Benitez appointment as a point in case.
Hopefully 777 will get the sports business management back on track, whereby we are financially stable and leave KT and SD to do their
jobs.
UTFT COYB.

28 Sep 2023 12:36:52
Who really gives a toss. He’s moving on and that is what supporters were asking for.

28 Sep 2023 15:27:55
I don’t care I was just trying to be helpful and give a perspective to the nonsense that appears in some ‘news’ publications.
Have a nice day blues
UTFT COYB.

30 Sep 2023 02:37:06
If the "owner" paid for, Everton, in whole or in part with money from a sanctioned Russian oligarc, originally, or subsequent investment, he cannot sell the club to anyone.
A sanctioned individual cannot benefit from the sale. See Chelsea as example.

02 Oct 2023 09:02:04
Doubt their going to benefit.

02 Oct 2023 21:38:45
Moshiri sold his shares in Arsenal to usamanov and then used that money to buy into Everton . Usamanov tried to buy Arsenal but he himself sold his shares to Kronke when Kronke wouldn’t sell . This all happened long before the war in Ukraine started so Moshiri can sell his shares in Everton to whoever he wants to, subject to those persons or companies meeting the fit and proper standards.

02 Oct 2023 21:49:13
So following on from my previous post just, usamanov isn’t going to benefit or profit from the sale of Everton. Moshiri hasn’t been sanctioned so there is no problem.
Journalists are supposed to report the news not create it, which is unfortunately what happens today to sell papers or click bait and reel people in .
Do you honestly think we would be this far along in the process if there was any evidence of anything on either side being a matter of concern. As I’ve said Everton will have carried out due diligence as will 777 into moshiri and Everton fc .

04 Oct 2023 08:53:44
Correct BigC.