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09 Mar 2025 22:45:35
JB (agent) will apparently demand £150,000 a week. If true I cannot see Freidkins agreeing to that and to be honest good for them.
1.) 10 Mar 2025 07:54:49
Depends how ambitious the club want to be. If we don't pay it there are plenty of other clubs will pay that and more.
You are talking about a future England player and already one of the best centre backs in the country. Get him on a five year contract and with him and O'Brien you have the makings of a solid central defence. Both big lads, but both can play with the ball at their feet.
150k is not a lot in footballing terms. If we want to bring success back to the club then this is the sort of money we need to pay. And unlike the Moshiri days were we bought poorly, we already know this lad is a quality player.
2.) 10 Mar 2025 09:37:34
The problem is if you have one player on 150K then everyone else wants to be on a similar wage or slightly less. As a club I don't think it would be sustainable. If you looks at Bretford Bournemouth and Brighton there top wage is around £100k. We have the perfect time for a reset on the wage front in the summer. Additional JP is on £125k and JB is nowhere near his level yet. As for if we don't pay the wage we are not ambitious enough well that's the sort of thinking that helped get us into the financial mess we are in, in the first place. JB could double his salary and be on a great wage, more than enough for a player of his calibre.
3.) 10 Mar 2025 11:26:09
We need to adopt a sustainable model where the couple of top earners are our top players. If 100k is out top wage, JB will have to take it or leave it. If he won't sign, sell to the highest bidder. We should be looking to sign top young players from around the World who would only be earning 10k-40k in their leagues and offer them 50-60k.
4.) 10 Mar 2025 12:14:24
The issue is, is that we have been happy to pay absolute dross players like Kean, DCL and Doucoure over 100k a week - madness.
JB is worth the money considering the level of club that is after him and his attributes. If we don't want to offer him that and keep him, then it is a case of selling him for 70/ 80m.
Players can moan about not being on the same but when they are nowhere near the level of JP and JB, it is a case of improve and reach their level or stop crying about it.
5.) 10 Mar 2025 12:16:55
He's worth every penny but we will probably be happy to cash in north of £70m so it's really not one to pay much thought to. And if we can't afford a few of our prime cuts to earn £150k pw then we are really in big trouble.
6.) 10 Mar 2025 18:52:22
If you truly want to compete at the top level then, i'm sorry to say, these are the wages players will want. We just need better recruitment so the correct players are identified first go round.
7.) 10 Mar 2025 20:11:36
BN is right if players want to earn the same money then show us why. JB is worth as much as JB because he has youth and longevity on his side.
And just because you buy a player from abroad and put him on 50k doesn’t mean he is going to be any good.
If we want to improve then we have got to stop selling our best players.
8.) 11 Mar 2025 08:59:15
I am sorry but the argument that is we don't spend we can't compete is a myth of hype. That in itself generates higher costs for everyone. What gets me some are happy to say we need to spend big on players yet do not see that if the current trend continues then the only way clubs can continue to survive is by passing cost back to the fans via higher fee's whether that be ticket prices merch or media subscriptions which we have seen already and it will only get worse. This will by default lead to a super league as numerous clubs will be fighting for limited resource so the clubs with the largest perceived fan base will be favoured.
9.) 11 Mar 2025 14:41:16
No clubs can generate a lot more income by playing European football. It's not just about how much you spend on players, it's getting the right players that counts, and yes some of these will come at a premium. But the goal should always be European qualification, and the addition income that generates.
10.) 12 Mar 2025 13:52:41
It's a double edged sword for me. On one hand, JB is one of our better players and should be up there with the top earners at the club. Especially when we see some of the wages handed out by the last regime, he's arguably been one of our top players for the last 18 months or so. He also has a bigger transfer fee attached to him than most of our squad.
The thing that pisses me off is that these footballers get paid well over the odds for what they do, obviously through no fault of their own it's just the way the game has gone. But when they are demanding obscene amounts per week when people in the local area are living hand to mouth, some relying on food banks, it doesn't really sit right with me.
Football isn't the same these days really, money has ruined it to a large extent.
11.) 12 Mar 2025 16:34:53
No BP the owners and agents have ruined it. Starting with Abramovich at Chelsea.
12.) 12 Mar 2025 17:14:43
I'd say they are all culpable mate, they've all played a significant part in grabbing the riches.
As for blaming Abramovic, I'd say there's always been teams in the top division that spent considerably more than the others. In the 80s, Everton and Liverpool were known as the mersey millionaires, Blackburn spent a pretty penny in the lead up to winning the league. Money corrupts at the end of the day mate and it's us fans that ultimately pay the price.
{Ed025's Note - i agree BP..
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18 May 2025 19:22:34
Absolutely made up that Goodison is staying but my question is how is it financially viable?
1.) 18 May 2025 19:51:54
Because they own the land, so only need to pay the running costs of the stadium. They also put money aside for demolition, which will no longer be fully required and can be put elsewhere.
2.) 18 May 2025 20:33:04
Income cover maintenance?
3.) 19 May 2025 16:09:12
I can’t help thinking that there’s a PSR trick up their sleeves for this decision. Not a clue what it would be though, just an inkling.
4.) 20 May 2025 06:41:33
Toffee, first thing my son said to me (accountant) .
29 Apr 2025 07:45:49
Different owners, Manager and recruiting Team but if rumours are true same mistakes about to happen. Richarlison was one of our best but now quite injury prone, he would not be a bargain buy and wages may be an issue. My opinion leave him alone.
1.) 29 Apr 2025 08:37:34
I would imagine his wages will be well out of our league. Spurs won’t sell cheap either. He was a legend but I’d suggest looking elsewhere.
2.) 29 Apr 2025 09:32:12
I really don't understand the fuss about richarlison. Look at his stats for us. He use to frustrate me more than anything. Time to let go.
3.) 29 Apr 2025 09:53:44
I am with the OP on Richarlison.
4.) 29 Apr 2025 11:09:09
£150 grand a week he is on.
5.) 29 Apr 2025 12:43:47
Let's not turn him into the EFC transfer window pantomime horse k. Let it go lads, it's every few days now.
6.) 29 Apr 2025 15:16:31
Been down that road earlier, wages far too high and he’s too injury prone one would hope with new owners we can at last pick several young fit recruits to fill all f our outgoings.
7.) 29 Apr 2025 15:55:41
The only way i think we would go for him is on deadline day if we haven't got all the players we want in. levvy would want millions for him and moshiri would probably of paid it. i don't think are new owners are that gullible.
8.) 29 Apr 2025 16:52:04
Not a popular opinion I can see, but I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
9.) 30 Apr 2025 08:17:53
Question, would he be an improvement on our current forward line?
10.) 30 Apr 2025 11:03:41
Answer :- he is better than everyone we have got.
As I’ve posted on here before if we can strike a deal that suits all parties which I’m quite sure won’t be a loan deal then it is a no brainer.
I’ve actually heard this one could well be happening and many many evertonians that I e spoken to will welcome him back with open arms.
I’ll be keeping my fingers crossed.
11.) 30 Apr 2025 15:30:05
I don’t want to sound like us cutting off our nose to spite our face, but I wouldn’t give Spurs anything. They shafted us when we were desperate.
12.) 01 May 2025 08:27:55
Has a 1 in 3 goals average. Any of our other players come near to that?
20 Apr 2025 17:10:52
Safe now!
1.) 21 Apr 2025 00:39:17
Should never been in these positions in the 1st place. How the mighty have fallen. I always wondered where we could of been after the cup winners cup win and the ban on English teams out of Europe.
2.) 21 Apr 2025 09:52:05
Onwards and upwards now new season in our new stadium things are looking up COYB.
3.) 21 Apr 2025 23:20:51
Maggie pulling the English sides out of Europe (we weren't actually banned but crucified by the state) definitely killed our future. Obviously we still had another title and fa cup win to come but we could have become a mainstay of the top table and we'd have only ourselves to blame for blowing up. Such a shame but here's to the future now. Hopefully with all the twists and turns and new foundations at BMD and these new owners we will eventually crawl back to being one of the big clubs and not just the old club that is only in an elite group because we didn't get relegated several times it's been close. Be a intriguing next chapter. Who knows what's next?
I think next seasons bottom clubs will have more points than recent years and we will be lucky to have had our nightmares during an era where you survived with such pitiful tally's. About time we addressed some of the most embarrassing stats in EPL history. 1 of only 5 mainstays but with the worst records amongst those. Funnily enough the old big 5 at that.
{Ed025's Note - good post that FBS..
4.) 22 Apr 2025 02:25:49
Very few teams stay at the top table for a prolonged period of time. The European ban hamstrung us massively as I believe we were definitely the best team in Europe at the time.
We have definitely seen the standard of football become almost embarrassing over the past 35 years but hopefully we can start the long road back now.
Like so many older posters here, I can remember the glory days and thinking that they'd never end. My kids have never even seen us win a trophy so I'm desperate for us to get back up there for them.
I like how TFG aren't always in the media or making bold predictions, proper business people by the looks of it. Alongside Davey and Kinnear I'm hoping for steady progress and hopefully to be challenging top four places within 3-5 seasons.
UTFT NSNO IMWT.
14 Apr 2025 06:38:06
Seems Moyes has answered those Doucoure detractors in his recent comments.
1.) 14 Apr 2025 08:53:05
Dacoure is a nice bloke and clearly loves the clu but he isn't good enough for where we want to be, especially on 130k a week.
He's popped now and again with important goals but in the main he's a headless chicken with the inability to pass to someone 5 yards away from him.
I wish him well but hopefully no longer with us.
2.) 14 Apr 2025 10:23:20
£130k is crazy money, but if we could get him on £60k (or less) for a couple more years, I think that would be ok. He’s clearly a leader, works hard, loves the club. As a squad player, I think he would be useful to have around. I would imagine most of you disagree with me; I know he’s frustrating at times and can be awful. Just me own opinion.
3.) 14 Apr 2025 11:44:56
I actually agree mostly but not years. He could do a job as a squad player for another year but beyond that would be charity. I just can't see the player "loving the club" enough to take a 60% wage cut when Saudi will be sniffing about and will probably increase his current wage. Not his fault and I'm not being a div but let's see "how much he loves the club" with those choices. Personally I hope the club doesn't allow itself to be embarrassed with such a scenario.
4.) 14 Apr 2025 11:50:29
Well I disagree with you swimmers mate. He is not a leader and isn't good enough to play in the position he is in. Yes he works hard, but his passing is awful and he creates nothing. One solitary goal is not going to change my opinion. Time for us to move him on and get a playmaker in that position.
5.) 14 Apr 2025 11:55:30
Agree with you Swinners, if he takes a vastly reduced wage then he would be an option from the bench.
6.) 14 Apr 2025 12:53:36
There’s better out there than AD. I was surprised the goal went in the way he hit it. I’m very grateful for the important goals he has scored for us but he’s cost us a fair few too with misplaced passes or poor positioning. His engine is good and his press sometimes is good too.
We need someone who looks comfortable on the ball and can see a pass. He’s not to good at any of those which is a big problem for us.
7.) 14 Apr 2025 14:34:45
Sadly, there’s little sentiment in football these days.
Doubt he’d take a 50%+ pay cut. Would any of us? I’ll be very surprised if we don’t just pay him the same for another year. I think that would be a mistake but don’t know how Davey will go about it.
£130k a week. Jeeze!
8.) 14 Apr 2025 15:23:05
It was a good, calm finish, probably the best part of his game. His passing is woeful and he’s not blessed with pace. We should let him go with thanks and move forward.
9.) 14 Apr 2025 19:33:01
As I said seems Moyes disagrees.
10.) 14 Apr 2025 19:37:40
I do though agree on the reduced wage. Remember though it is not the player but the agents looking to grab big percentage.
11.) 14 Apr 2025 19:51:55
Only trouble with all these players out of contract is that we will have to buy someone else.
Just using doucoure as an example and this will relate to all the players leaving
From the comments above doucoure £130k a week
Let's say he leaves and we get someone in on half that. For a financial side that would be less than £3.5m transfer with a wage of£65k a week to match what doucoure is on.
I don't understand the ffp psr etc or what evertons financial situation is like but it's a tricky one with what to do. unless we've got some talented youth players to cover these positions we could end up spending a fortune and being in the same position again.
03 Apr 2025 16:51:40
Is 34 points enough?
1.) 03 Apr 2025 21:55:32
Hoping we get something against Saints and Ipswich dms so think we’ll get to 40. Throw in a cheeky draw or two and who knows.
2.) 03 Apr 2025 22:45:48
36 points is enough, one win and we’re fine.
3.) 03 Apr 2025 22:55:55
The bottom three are gone already.
4.) 04 Apr 2025 09:05:40
We are safe already even if we didn't pick up another point. Mathematical no but realistically yes.
5.) 04 Apr 2025 09:18:41
Some hard games coming up but so have the bottom 3 like you said Mocker not mathematically safe but we should be safe.
6.) 04 Apr 2025 11:28:08
24 points max will be safe.
7.) 04 Apr 2025 19:47:23
Yeah 24 on top of the 34 points we already got sounds good to me.
17 May 2025 22:18:28
Depends what we eat.
05 May 2025 08:07:36
Spurs play him as a 9, I don't think he is a 9. I agree, get him fit, keep him fit. I don't see what the fuss is with Delap.
03 May 2025 02:46:52
My 75 year old left peg would do ok in that league.
26 Apr 2025 21:38:28
Dyche this season didn't remotely look like getting us to 15th. TFG made the right call at the right time and it worked out forbtheir investment.
23 Apr 2025 19:31:19
Can of worms.
20 May 2025 06:41:33
Toffee, first thing my son said to me (accountant) .
20 May 2025 06:34:33
Had my hanky out at that (told SWMBO, it was my hay fever) .
18 May 2025 20:33:04
Income cover maintenance?
18 May 2025 19:24:02
Dick Stadiumm is my nightmare.
18 May 2025 19:15:03
That midfield line of Kendall, Harvey, Ball was phenominal. Ball had some engine and I was a midfielder (right across) so it is Ball for me. Bit of an unfair question though because a case could be made for many many.