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08 Jul 2022 11:29:50
All a bit quiet at the moment? Not much talk of solid interest in players, just the usual paper talk. Takeover talk also taken a back seat. Any Eds got anything to share to keep us interested?

JBtoffee

{Ed002's Note - I have explained that Everton are looking to bring players in and things are going on in the background.}


1.) 08 Jul 2022 14:56:35
You have. Thanks. Just wondered if there were any details. The most hilarious rumour today was the potential swap of Gomes for Rabiot.

{Ed002's Note - I have provided information already - I won't be providing blow-by-blow updates.}


2.) 08 Jul 2022 14:57:19
you have indeed Ed on numerous occasions "brick wall head and banging" comes to mind. ?.


3.) 08 Jul 2022 16:47:13
Yeah JB, that's like swapping a onion bap for a fillet steak :)


4.) 09 Jul 2022 04:22:32
Please can you provide a blow by blow update?

{Ed077's Note - pi$$ 0ff


5.) 09 Jul 2022 06:42:04
Here you go JB:
“Today, nothing happened. ”
Keep reading that until we sign someone or someone leaves.


6.) 09 Jul 2022 10:07:50
Anything this morning?


7.) 09 Jul 2022 10:54:12
Not posting rumours anymore then BR? Just announcing signings?


8.) 09 Jul 2022 14:19:48
Is all a bit dull. I'm hoping Davies steps up this season and is like a new signing (I'm sure I'll get grief for saying that) . Hoping onyango gets more game time as well. Striker the main position we need filling, I reckon we will end up with a loan.


9.) 09 Jul 2022 15:31:58
We post rumours all the time but with the Ed’s I tend to take that as more than rumour.


 

 

12 Jan 2022 22:51:11
Digne confirming what we knew already - he’s been forced out of the club he loves by ‘an outsider’. Good luck to the lad, seems like he had little choice. What has happened to our great club?

JBtoffee

1.) 12 Jan 2022 23:18:16
Where is this news from?


2.) 12 Jan 2022 23:24:25
Thank you for 3 1/ 2 years in Blue ?
From Day One the Evertonians have received me with a lot of warm feelings, and I am forever thankful for that.
I have loved to be a part of the Everton family.
I have always worked hard to give back to the fans on and off the pitch.
I have loved the unity of fans and players.
Not only Goodison on a match day but also in everyday life.

Only one year ago I signed a new contract with the ambition of staying in this club for a long time, giving everything for my club, for the development and project, that I believed in - and for the passionate fans.
My dream was helping the club back where it belongs. 
Wearing the captain’s armband in some matches always made me proud.

Everything must come to an end.
I just did not expect it to end this way.

What has happened and some things that was said about me in the last month has made me very sad.
But I will not enter a war on words with anyone.

The club don’t deserve that, the fans don’t deserve that - and to be honest, I don’t feel that I deserve that.
There are so many good and decent people in and around Everton who want to the best for this club and not only for themself - and to them i can only say from my heart: I wish you the best!

Thank you, to all you wonderful, proud and passionate true Evertonians. 
It has been a an honour and a true pleasure to play for you, the fans, the people - because a club do not belong to a player or a manager, but to the fans. 
I will always carry you with me in my heart wherever I go.
Sometimes it only takes one person from outside to destroy a beautiful love affair.
All the best to @everton and Evertonians ?.


3.) 12 Jan 2022 23:39:08
Exactly what I said earlier 'jumped or pushed'. Having now read up on Rafa recent outings, seems to be his modus operandi along with everyone elses fault except mine rhetoric. Getting a bit worried now
games in hand 100 percent need to be capitalised.


4.) 13 Jan 2022 01:54:23
One of the few genuine world class players we’ve had over the last decade. What a shame.


5.) 12 Jan 2022 23:44:09
So what do we think of this Ed, doesn't read like a lad that wanted out!

{Ed025's Note - its a good parting shot by lucas DFS, its only one side of the story of course and i doubt we will get rafa,s side anytime soon so i really dont know who is to blame...answers on a postcard..


6.) 13 Jan 2022 07:14:40
Disgusting it's going to take 10years to recover from this season and the fallout.

{Ed025's Note - dont get embroiled in a one sided argument and a twitter feed cookie, we dont know the full story and probably never will mate..


7.) 13 Jan 2022 07:57:37
I have always been for Rafa Ed, based on his tactical reputation mainly. As the days go on though, it seems we are dealing with a person that denies all personal responsibility for footballing failure but accepts for success. Even taking into account injuries, some of his decisions have been baffling! (Bad enough watching on TV but even more so in the ground) . Away at Norwich is crucial for me, a win essential, a draw let's hear the excuses, a loss, there are none.

{Ed025's Note - im on the fence DFS but it is what it is, as you say the norwich and then the newcastle games are crucial, we need 4 points from these games but im not holding my breath mate..


8.) 13 Jan 2022 07:58:49
It's Rafa. Wherever he has been he has caused problems with players. even at Liverpool! Just get the impression that if you disagree with him, that's it, you're off . Alonso fell out with him at Liverpool and left. I do worry about Richarlison for this reason!


9.) 13 Jan 2022 08:29:40
I was happy 2 give Rafa a chance but after the Brighton game I want him gone and that’s not just me I large section of where I sit feel the same he is a disease that needs cutting out doubt he will ever b accepted it’s like he pulls balls out of a hat when picking the team.


10.) 13 Jan 2022 10:19:31
Common thread is what has come out from the club on social media. Over years plentiful of messages supported the managers from playing staff. The clubs PR machine was quick to fill us with these articles about how players love Ancelotti, Allyardce, Koemans and Martinez. This has dried up. I suspect no one is happy and all are looking at there options.


11.) 13 Jan 2022 10:41:33
Bye Digne ? ????.


12.) 13 Jan 2022 12:37:17
Sell one of the best left backs in the Prem, and bring in someone you have never heard of from a crap league. But hey he's young so that's ok.


13.) 13 Jan 2022 12:46:31
Whichever side you believe, whether Digne was sulking, not trying, wanted out, etc or whether he was forced out because the boss didn't like him, surely it is a managers job to. "manage" the situation so it doesn't get out of hand and blow up in his face like this?


14.) 13 Jan 2022 15:35:02
25 million (in these times) for a left back that’s been poor for a long time now is great business.


15.) 13 Jan 2022 17:05:47
If he loved the fans and club as much as he professed in his parting statement, then why didn't he stay and fight for his place? The managers job is far from stable, he could have just bided his time.


16.) 13 Jan 2022 17:15:50
Probably didn’t fancy waiting 2 seasons for Rafa to be sacked before he played again.


17.) 13 Jan 2022 17:36:00
Quote a low bar if you think he world class.

Quality player don't get me wrong but he's no Ashley Cole, Robertson, Carlos.

He can't get in the French team ahead of theo hernandez of Milan.

The path ahead just got even rockier with this Instagram post.

I'm not siding with either party in this argument but the manager makes the decisions and he'll live or die by his action.

I'm all for giving him at least til the end of the season to see if results improve but I feel lots of fans already going to force him out for a banner on a plane.


18.) 14 Jan 2022 15:13:58
You mean he is no Leighton Baines GeofJohno ?.


 

 

31 Aug 2021 19:13:40
Benfica saying they've signed Gomes!
How many GKs will be on the bench in our next game? Surely we must be getting a few in?

JBtoffee

1.) 31 Aug 2021 19:42:31
What goal keepers😂.

{Ed025's Note - love it mate..


2.) 31 Aug 2021 19:56:04
5 goalkeepers and 6 left wingers?


3.) 31 Aug 2021 20:10:02
Am on the bench against burnley.


 

 

07 Aug 2021 12:41:11
If you want to read into our friendly line up, Kean is definitely off. Not even made the bench. Worrying that DCL couldn't make the squad. With Richy still in Tokyo, essential that we sign another forward, and soon!

JBtoffee

1.) 07 Aug 2021 13:00:40
Same old same old, 1-0 down, after 15 minutes with 23% possession and 23 passes.


2.) 07 Aug 2021 13:10:09
Richarlison missed pen for Brazil in the final. hope they go on and win and he doesn't have his confidence knocked by it!


3.) 07 Aug 2021 13:19:43
3-0 after 30mins?


4.) 07 Aug 2021 13:24:04
Absolute disgrace, the executives at the club need sacking for some of these players we have signed in the past few years, this squad is the worst I can remember, even in the 90s we at least had players who would fight for the shirt. This is going to be an awful season judging by today. Pathetic performance from all 11 players on the pitch in the first 45.


5.) 07 Aug 2021 13:27:37
Who’s bright idea was it to play this friendly?


6.) 07 Aug 2021 13:41:07
At least he he now knows what he has got.


7.) 07 Aug 2021 14:22:38
3rd preseason friendly in and you want some of the board sacked? That would really help the cause wouldn't it 🙄😂.


8.) 07 Aug 2021 14:32:56
So its better to move forward as we are?


9.) 07 Aug 2021 14:35:26
I can understand the frustration. Rafa has probably the most difficult managerial job of his life trying to mold this lot into a good footballing side. I don't believe that the previous managers have been all that bad apart from Big Sam but nobody so far has been successful, hopefully Rafa will be the first.

{Ed025's Note - we all do mike, but its one hell of a challenge mate..


10.) 07 Aug 2021 14:38:59
It's a friendly, DG, and we haven't got a recognised senior striker in the squad. Did you expect us to steam roll a good Utd team?
But you say you want certain members of the board sacked, so please explain how that would help us 'move forward'


11.) 07 Aug 2021 14:58:34
Gbamin and Kean were pinged by the NHS app. DCL has a minor toe injury. Bad result still.

{Ed025's Note - i know it was only a friendly hugo and we had players out, but it did highlight just how thin our squad is mate..


12.) 07 Aug 2021 15:29:26
I didn’t know there was such a thing as a friendly game against Man U.


13.) 07 Aug 2021 16:57:08
Its thin and generally bad I think, Ed. We’ve been in dire need of a reality check for a while I think. Far from where we think we are or think we deserve to be.

{Ed025's Note - very much so hugo, time for them all to step up to the plate mate..


14.) 07 Aug 2021 17:15:51
How long have we been saying that though, Ed? Seems since Moshiri came in. Too scattergun. Least when we were punching above our weight, we had that to fall back on, now we’re just bad. Top to bottom.

{Ed025's Note - i wish i could disagree hugo..


15.) 07 Aug 2021 21:07:49
9 conceded in last two matches against Premier league team and that's with the opposition declaring and Ancelotti and Benetiz in charge both universally agreed to be top managers/ tactician, no money, record signing in hiding and likely to never play again. Main striker injured, Ricky half way across the world and will be in need of a rest sometime soon. That said will still waste a fiver on top four finish because you never know!


16.) 07 Aug 2021 22:46:12
Some over-reaction to a friendly game I think. It's main purpose is to give players some game time; no-one got injured, 20 subs each, strikers not playing, nothing riding on the game, youth players given a chance to play in the first team, some of them for the first team, at Old Trafford as part of their development. Rafa will probably have made his mind up about Delph and a few others if he hadn't already, maybe even an element of putting players in shop window.

We already knew the team needs some radical surgery and today's game doesn't change that: Priority: RB, then CF if Moise goes (likely) , CM/ AM (2 if James goes) , CB if Yerry goes, possibly another RW but Gray and Townsend actually looking decent. Fingers crossed we can get them in by the end of August.


 

 

01 Jul 2021 22:36:16
Reports about that we're in contention to sign Ben White. Hope so, he's class.

JBtoffee

1.) 02 Jul 2021 00:09:09
Lol. More chance of getting Barry White.

{Ed0666's Note - hell be your first and last your everything


2.) 02 Jul 2021 06:15:48
Although he is a very good player are we really in the financial position to spend 50m + on a player in a position we are well stocked in? . There are much more pressing positions we need to strengthen first.


3.) 02 Jul 2021 06:34:06
Depends who may be leaving I guess.


4.) 02 Jul 2021 09:29:32
He's played RB but not in the Coleman mould in my opinion

50m is steep, although I can see him going for that figure but, who of our current CB, are going to leave and get anywhere near that amount

We would be using a lot of our budget in an area we are not currently bad in

Depends on FFP, Moshiri and what we can spend.


5.) 02 Jul 2021 10:03:26
Ed0666, 😂😂😂😂 you're going to have trouble beating your reply in the future! Tickled me that did 😂.

{Ed0666's Note - mate were showing our age maybe we should just keep quiet 😂


6.) 02 Jul 2021 13:10:28
😂😂😂 still getting me every time I look at it mate, me mrs is looking at me like I've just kicked the cat or something!


7.) 02 Jul 2021 13:10:28
😂😂😂 still getting me every time I look at it mate, me mrs is looking at me like I've just kicked the cat or something!
Never change, ed066, we love you just the way you are 🙄😂😂😂.

{Ed0666's Note - stop showing off now potato I’m out of Barry White puns although after this year my Mrs is calling me the walrus of love and that’s not because I’ve got a voice like Barry White’s either 😂


8.) 02 Jul 2021 13:18:55
Brighton’s third best centre back, we don’t need another centre back unless Holgate and Keane leave, other positions need to be prioritised.

{Ed0666's Note - White may not be world class but he’s better than holgate and Keane now and is potentially very good.


9.) 02 Jul 2021 13:40:33
That’s wonderful but we have no money to spend as is, so any funds we do have need to be spent on positions we desperately need such as a right back, winger and midfielder. In fact centre back is the position we need players in least except left back.

50m to sit on the bench and only play when Mina is injured? No thank you.


10.) 02 Jul 2021 15:12:22
That's the only two that spring to mind for me, ed066 😂😂 I'm sure there's a joke to be made of your last reply but I won't go there! 😂😂
Swan, I agree it's not a position we need to strengthen but maybe rafa is planning on shaking up that position. Possibly one or two on the way out?

{Ed0666's Note - I’d say Rafa is not far away from being a walrus of love 😂


11.) 02 Jul 2021 16:10:30
White would walk into are starting 11 imo Swan. Mina is probably off as well.


12.) 02 Jul 2021 22:37:06
Spend what we like, then take a little fine for going over ffp,

If the cap fits with the Euro breakaway, then why not chance our arm.

Strike while the iron is hot, and have a top lawyer on stand by.


 

 

 

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12 Aug 2022 08:58:14
Looks like it'll Rondon leading the line on Saturday then lads. Better to take the time to get the right man in for the season. In the short term I don't think this is too bad. If we're solid at the back and McNeil and Gordon can get balls into the box, we should still be productive. Can't wait to see Onana boss the midfield.

JBtoffee

1.) 12 Aug 2022 09:43:18
Rondon available at 40/ 1 to score 2 and 400/ 1 to score a hatrick - let’s hope the wingers give him a good supply of crosses and he leaps like Salmon Rondon to bag a few.


2.) 12 Aug 2022 10:29:31
In all fairness when he joined he wasn't fit and was thrown in at the deep end. He actually looked a lot fitter and sharper during pre season, and I'd prefer him upfront than Gordon or Gray. He's not the answer to be our main striker but best that we have atm. A we ask is he puts himself about and works 100%.


3.) 12 Aug 2022 10:40:33
Yeh gutted we haven't addressed this issue sooner knowing we're short on strikers, definitely a mistake not to having someone in by now. very poor. . Hope we get a result tomorrow if we don't get anything, the pressure will be on to catch up! Coyb!


4.) 12 Aug 2022 11:37:31
We could probably have rushed through a deal. Wouldn’t we rather make sure it’s the right player.


5.) 12 Aug 2022 12:54:47
Carlo tactic of keeping the striker in the box at every opportunity. He may well get 1 or 2. I agree he looked a bit leaner and had some energy in the pre season. Must be optimistic and if that wally continues his ego show and overlooks their best CB again, well he may well have a good day in front of goal.


6.) 12 Aug 2022 13:27:32
Wouldn't have had to rush if a proper plan was in place. Not knocking the transfers done so far. We knew DCL is injury prone, we knew Rondon isn't the quickest.


7.) 12 Aug 2022 14:12:10
The plan has been addressed and is in place. The plan did not involve a magic wand.


8.) 12 Aug 2022 14:44:03
Week said JB.


9.) 12 Aug 2022 15:39:00
Agree JB looking like a striker will be in this weekend in the meantime Rondon and every other Everton player gets my total backing COYB.


10.) 12 Aug 2022 19:06:29
What is the plan you know of JB? Who we signing? Hope it's a goodun! Whoever it is needs to be good enough to be genuije competition to DCL rather than a backup because DCL needs to up his game by a long stretch in my humble opinion.


11.) 12 Aug 2022 21:50:08
We’re seeing the plan already. We’ve bought proven premier league quality in Tarks and Coady and potential in McNeil and Onana. We’ve moved several off the wage bill and got top dollar in today’s market from notoriously tough negotiators for Richy. We’ve signed up our young talent on new contracts and loaned them out to develop. The plan will be to move one or two more (Keane, Gomes, maybe Allan or Davies) then buy one or two more. We’ll end up with a stronger squad than we had.


 

 

15 May 2022 19:23:00
Official word is that the pen wasn’t given as it was not a clear and obvious error. It wasn’t given, it was a clear pen, and therefore an obvious error. Simple as. Crooks.

JBtoffee

1.) 15 May 2022 20:27:07
Corruption.


2.) 15 May 2022 21:26:59
Corrupt on the banner is a strong word but also an appropriate word. Guess they want to make a final day showdown.


3.) 15 May 2022 20:35:02
Agree JB - shocking decisions against us again. Think the speed in which he gave us the penalty when Richarlison fouled was him trying to make amends.


 

 

01 May 2022 16:20:01
Ducksflysouth you’ll be gutted with a 1-0 victory today ay?

JBtoffee

 

 

01 May 2022 00:44:40
Very quiet on here tonight.
I would imagine that reflects the disappointment following the Burnley game and the nerves leading up to tomorrow.
Last time I felt like this was 1998, Coventry.
Let’s hope the outcome is the same.

JBtoffee

 

 

19 Apr 2022 10:32:13
The way forward seems clear.
Sell DCL, Richarlison, Keane and maybe a couple of others. Some others are clearing out the wage bill already.
Take advantage of the free agent market. Some excellent options this summer. Worth looking at Cantwell, Lacazette, Tarkowski, Lingard, Armartey, Mee.

There are plenty more…

JBtoffee

1.) 19 Apr 2022 11:04:00
It does JB we have so many players ar the end of their contracts, time to get rid mate,


2.) 19 Apr 2022 12:51:23
Agree we need to look at offloading and making use of the free agent and loan market.

However not sure Ben Mee or James Tarkowski are the answer to our defensive problems. They’ve conceded a similar number of goals as our players have and are in a team that’s fighting relegation also - are either an improvement on what we’ve already got?
Wouldn’t say either are better than Godfrey or branthwaite could be.

Also not sure lingard is the answer to our midfield issue, he’s very similar to gray and Gordon and wouldn’t start him ahead of either.

Let’s hope we avoid relegation and can then enjoy the summer transfer speculation.


3.) 19 Apr 2022 13:26:07
Either Mee or Tarkowski would be a useful addition if we sold both Mina, Keane and Holgate. If we didn't then we should look at younger options. I don't know any player that would be a like for like replacement for Richarlison in the free or loan markets. Lacazette would be a good shout if his wages were reasonably cheap but I can't see that being the case.


4.) 19 Apr 2022 13:48:47
How is selling your best players the way forward?
Then sign free agents on ridiculous wages? Mmm haven’t we been down this route before?
We need a good centre back to play alongside Godfrey. We need a couple of good ball playing midfielders and that is all.
We have 5/ 6 players out of contract on the summer, none who are worth keeping, already a massive saving in wages.
If you are going to sell anyone then selll the likes of Keane, Holgate and Gomes.
But try to hold on to your best players .


5.) 19 Apr 2022 16:48:45
Ideally, yes, we’d keep Richy. Don’t think that’s realistic though. If a CL team come knocking, which they likely will, he’ll be off. We should be concerning ourselves with finding the next Richarlison. We got ourselves in this financial mess and now only selling high and buying low will steady the ship.


6.) 19 Apr 2022 17:09:21
Not sure selling the crown jewels will help! then buy two players from a struggling Burnley, isn't that what we did with Keane? Cantwell not getting games in another relegation side! Lacazette well past his best free doesn't mean good!
I really cannot see this has any real progression for the club we need good developing youngsters! some class that will help others around them!


7.) 19 Apr 2022 20:27:01
Agree Wakka, we are far to quick to want to get rid of our better players. With Lukaku and Rooney we had to sell, we don’t now. So unless we get very good offers then don’t sell.


8.) 19 Apr 2022 21:07:00
Sorry Woburn but who says we don’t have to sell?

It’s been rammed down our throats for ages that we’re treading a thin line with ffp and I’ve a feeling we need to sell one of our best players to help with this - sure one of the Ed’s may have even mentioned this.


9.) 19 Apr 2022 23:02:14
Dan, ffp is a bigger issue when it comes to wages.
We should be spending 60% of our total income, not the near 90% we are at right now.
With the players out of contract this summer we will be looking at a saving of around 400 to 500k a week. That will significantly reduce the % turnover. And given none of these players are what you would call first team regulars, then we will hardly miss them.
We also have the Moise K money coming in, and as I have said before if we sold the likes of Keane, Holgate and Gomes then we could reinvest in new players.
We only really need two or three in the right position to sort this out.
So the only reason we should sell the likes of Richy or DCL is if we are offered an amount that is too difficult to turn down. Otherwise they both have two or three years left on their contracts, so hold them to it.
Of course if we get relegated then all of the above goes out the window, because our income will drop putting us well and truly in the s**t.


10.) 20 Apr 2022 02:25:11
There’s no easy answer, no right or wrong answer to our problems going forward.

The first thing, as Woburn says, is avoiding relegation. With our losses and our massive wage bill we would struggle to come back from relegation so our only focus the next month or so has to be safety.

If we stay up, we will still be severely hampered on the Finance and Sustainability (FFP) rules by our losses and a wage bill that is far too high compared to our revenue. We have to improve our profitability and reduce the wage bill. It’s not something we can avoid any longer in my opinion. We will have to decide what of the following we can do without weakening the side too much but, to be clear, some of it won’t be immediately strengthening the side. We will be entering yet another rebuilding stage with the hope of stabilising the club in the Premiership and preparing it for a long battle back to the top

We have to consider
• Selling our assets. This means selling some of the players that we can make a profit on. DCL – bought for 1.5 million now worth 40-50m, Richarlison, Pickford – neither would make as much profit as DCL but still need to be considered.
• I wouldn’t want to lose them but there are some young successes that other clubs will be looking enviously at. Gordon, Branthwaite, Gray are examples
• We have players like Allan, Doucoure, Gomes who we wouldn’t make much money on but we could reduce the wage bill by selling
We have players coming to the end of their contracts. We have to seriously reduce their current wages or be ruthless and let them go

All of the above means losing players from the squad. We can all argue to what extent but the team will be weakened. How do we replace these players? Again, we have to consider
• Free agents. My own opinion is we avoid going for the likes of a Lingard who would expect high wages and layers coming to the end of their career unless the signing is resolve a short term solution or to provide leadership – something we sadly lack- I’m not sure they were free agents but someone the likes of Dawson, Cahill, Evans
• Our new DOF needs to have clear instructions on what the manager requires and also on the character, age, transfer fee, wage demands of any new players. We should be looking for young players with a fire in their belly to succeed ant be chasing ‘names’ which we can’t afford at this moment in time
• Our new DOF has to be allowed to do his job and not be over-ruled by Moshiri or his advisors

Finally, we need to see radical changes to the management and structure of our club. We have
• Farhad – the boy with a toy but absolutely no knowledge of football
• Ken and Denise – both love Everton but are they really the best two to lead the club forward? Both have demonstrated absolutely no appetite to stand up to Farhad and have allowed the club to be mismanaged as a result
• The DOF – has to show the backbone to insist on things being done only with his approval or resign and tell us why he has resigned
• The Finance director – why are we in such a mess financially – tell us
• Graham Sharp – appointed non-executive director and is doing what?

Not good enough for running our club.


11.) 20 Apr 2022 04:39:42
'ant' be should be 'and not be'

Apologies.


12.) 20 Apr 2022 07:26:02
Woburn - doubt any one associated with the club wants to sell our best players.

However we may be forced to sell them. Be that because they want to challenge themselves at a higher level or we need to move them on to balance our books.


13.) 20 Apr 2022 10:50:28
As I said if you want to build a business you don’t sell your best assets. You sell the things you don’t really need, and reduce the size of your staff.
This the club can do quite easily, without having a major impact on the squad.
Again you would only sell your best assets if offers were to good to refuse, allowing you to reinvest and strengthen in other areas.
The club have to be strong here. It’s not about what’s best for the player. It’s what’s best for the club. If the player wants to break his contract then put a price on him and stand by that price.


14.) 20 Apr 2022 11:47:37
Sorry Woburn think you are over simplifying it.
If a player wants out they’ll go.

You can say “put a price on him and stand by that price” however that is unrealistic.

If a player wants out we need to get the best deal we can but if a club is not willing to meet our price there has to be room for negotiation. Why would we want to keep a player that wants out?

Regardless of how good they are if they wanted out and we don’t facilitate that there will be animosity in their part and highly unlikely they’ll put 100% effort in going forward - performances will drop, value will decrease and then they go for less money next window.


15.) 20 Apr 2022 12:33:09
Woburn is purely just being a good negotiator.

You don't say 'oh well he wants to go so let's let him go' You tell him and the other club (let's call them sharks sniffing for weakness) he has a long contract still, the price is whatever and you negotiate from strength

I do also believe that in the case of say a Richy or DCL who has given his all, who has signed a long, well paid but fair contract which enables us to have bargaining chips you come up with a deal that makes all 3 parties happy, US, the player and finally the buying club.


16.) 20 Apr 2022 14:42:49
Thank you bw. It’s time this club stood strong when negotiating sales. Just because DCL was a cheap buy doesn’t mean he should be sold for less than any other good Prem striker. The club have invested an awful lot into this lad, that should be reflected in the price.
Dan a lot of them are not putting 100% in now mate. Has nothing to do with them wanting to leave or not.


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2022 20:27:57
How on Earth would the Mirror know what Gordon wants?

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15 Aug 2022 09:57:08
Behind in admin, Ducks? Head’s gone.

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14 Aug 2022 20:06:02
What?

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14 Aug 2022 19:52:41
If Frank is interested in Broja, Gallagher, Gilmour Batshuayi, and maybe others, there could be a deal to be done that would suit both parties. Although I wouldn’t want to see Gordon go, a silly offer with players that strengthen our squad would be difficult to refuse.

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12 Aug 2022 23:50:29
Not going anywhere then! ?.

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16 Aug 2022 13:44:06
Then you’ll rub your hands together Ducks.

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15 Aug 2022 20:28:51
We’ve got a couple of Jokers in the squad already.

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15 Aug 2022 13:12:56
What are people’s thoughts on Pukki from Norwich? Certainly knows where the goal is. Brereton at Blackburn and Juao Pedro could be worth a punt too?
Preferable to Adams for me.

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You’d hope we’d at least be after someone who can challenge DCL when both are fit. Not convinced Che Adams is the answer, although he did score some decent goals for Southampton last season.

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14 Aug 2022 23:38:43
Many takers for someone who’s out for 8 weeks?

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