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14 Aug 2024 08:40:11
rumour Branthwaite rushed back too quickly and is now out for a lengthy period, not just for saturday.
1.) 14 Aug 2024 10:20:42
Getting sold then?
2.) 14 Aug 2024 10:33:41
Let’s hope it’s just a rumour. O’Neil should be a competent replacement in the meantime.
3.) 14 Aug 2024 10:38:21
That might just put man utd off from trying to get him this window.
4.) 14 Aug 2024 11:38:57
O Neil plays on the wing. Do you mean Obrian.
5.) 14 Aug 2024 14:04:51
That’s the one Smitt. Half asleep.
6.) 15 Aug 2024 15:52:13
No chance O’brian is starting ahead of SD love child Kean.
No CB, no RB for Saturday, it’s like Groundhog Day being an Evertonian.
05 Aug 2021 20:12:32
rumblings of a swap between newcastle and everton for Tom Davies and Sean Longstaff.
1.) 06 Aug 2021 11:02:10
Why bother?
2.) 06 Aug 2021 14:01:39
Why would you swap players that are of a very similar standard? The only people to benefit from that would be the agents and players as they both could ask for a wage increase. click bait 101.
14 Jul 2021 12:44:07
Denzel Dumfries inbound
could progress quickly over the weekend.
19 May 2021 13:13:03
Carlo now coming out and sending the message to any of his players, listen if you're not happy here then go.
wonder if anyone of the current crop are actively pushing for an exit?
1.) 19 May 2021 15:20:38
Hopefully most of them.
2.) 19 May 2021 16:27:17
They might not be happy playing for the club. But I’m sure their bank balance puts a smile on their faces.
Let’s face it a lot of them wouldn’t earn what they get here if they moved.
18 Feb 2020 09:31:21
rumours floating about everton are looking to complete a deal for lille centre back gabriel dos santos, left footed brazilian centre back 22 years old.
{Ed002's Note - Gabriel Magalhaes was the subject of several discussions between Lille and Arsenal - but he signed a new contract a couple of weeks ago.}
1.) 18 Feb 2020 11:15:24
cheers ed.
{Ed002's Note - Southampton and Everton have both sent scouts to watch the player.}
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27 Jan 2025 16:27:11
all very quiet on the transfer front
got to pray it's very much a working in the shadows type job, 7 days to go.
they're not going to let their new manager down already are they? DM been vocal of needing reinforcements, understand it's difficult right now, but still.
1.) 27 Jan 2025 17:16:47
If you rememeber when Moyes was here last time, every transfer was near the end of the window, he won't rush.
2.) 28 Jan 2025 08:36:37
i always thought all our business would be the final weekend truth be told BP
it's where the most opportunities arise and where the cash strapped sides can perhaps get a better deal for themselves for surplus players they're after.
27 Jan 2025 16:27:11
all very quiet on the transfer front
got to pray it's very much a working in the shadows type job, 7 days to go.
they're not going to let their new manager down already are they? DM's been vocal of needing reinforcements, understand it's difficult right now, but still.
1.) 27 Jan 2025 19:20:10
I’d rather us take our time and make the right signings than rush and sign another flop.
22 Jan 2025 09:01:47
just read a post about youth intake/ 21's so thought i'd post sort of my feeling of EFC issues right now in terms of why maybe it isn't as good as people expect?
it's difficult right now for EFC on youth academy front
they've sold Samuels-Smith to Chelsea in a previous summer (left back) who was supposedly most likely to make that breakthrough next (he went for £5m without playing a game says it all) sold to keep the lights on
they did have an academy ban and playing catch up, so the academy ban is impacting on what now would be the u21's
isaac Price was another who left for Liege for playing time (which EFC struggle to sell, as they don't really have comfort to blood youth players as last 4 years have been fighting for survival)
however, when it comes to investing in the 21's they just haven't had the finance, every last penny has been invested in to the first team and so it should be right now
they've picked Omari Benjamin up on a free for the 21's who looks ok
they believe they had a good summer just gone for the 18's in take though, they signed Graham who is supposedly a *coup* and also picked up Justin Clarke from Wimbledon whose started very well whilst also keeping very highly rated GK and england youth international Douglass Lukjanciks (who was sought after by City and Villa this summer)
couple others signed from other clubs too, so there has been a focus there from the summer.
the 21's as you say maybe not helped the first team much, but it has helped keep EFC afloat financially w/ sales of Cannon/ Simms/ Samuels-Smith and of course Anthony Gordon, but in his case did help the first team
as i say it's difficult, on Dixon he badly needs a loan, he did ok on his debut but he doesn't actually stand out at 21's level like you'd expect him too (unlike Harrison Armstrong who stands out at 18's and 21's level) physicality and size a huge factor
it's a tough old game the youth academy's, if you have a brilliant one normally at 16 City/ Chelsea/ United hoover them up, Emilio Lawrence was one EFC were mad about. he left and joined Manchester City upon signing his professional deal.
but the thing is it's not just an EFC issue, but it's not as if academy players are pouring out of other clubs ears, we have just had one and sold him for £50m and now we have Armstrong in the squad at least. especially under financial uncertainty
so yeah, tough one, they need to be a club that's attractive to players aged 15/ 16 to sign for as they see a pathway.
{Ed025's Note - great information WB, thanks for that mate..
1.) 22 Jan 2025 09:42:28
Good post mate.
2.) 22 Jan 2025 09:58:41
Quality summary there Wblue2 mate.
Think young Price may be on his way back to these shores mate. West Brom heavily linked.
Martin Sherif is also highly thought of. I know a few of the German hitters were looking at him recently. The only concern with Benjamin and Sherif is that if they were truly going to be anything, they would have at least got a sniff to show what they are about already, especially given our recent/ current goalscoring woes.
Some of the huge teams have teenagers players starting for them now and that is with a plethora of experienced talent to choose from, a luxury we really don't have.
All the below could be considered too young to give chances to. Some may be in and out of the team but at least they are building 1st team experience. I feel this is something we miss a trick with, especially when you consider that we have had 2 keepers on the bench a lot of the time. Even if there is a fear to play the young lads given our precarious position, having them in and around the match-day squad would do brilliant for their progression and mentality.
Senny Mayulu and Ibrahim Mbaye - PSG
Pau Cubarsi and Marc Casado - Barcelona
Mathys Tel - Bayern
Bradley - Liverpool
Mainoo - United
Nwaneri and Lewis-Skelly - Arsenal
Lewis - City.
3.) 22 Jan 2025 10:22:17
Hi Bluenose,
yeah there's a few i've not mentioned mate, Stan Mills an example of someone they thought could be an option, good 6 months on loan at Oxford last year before an absolutely horrendous knee injury
Ebere coming back from a lengthy injury for the 21's too, after good goal scoring last year for the 18's
in Sherif/ Benjamin cases, it's a shame because EFC have 3/ 4 strikers for one role in the first team, but alos watching them they don't particularly stand out at current level.
Chermiti obviously being 20-ish also
Sherif still only 18, so probably needs a run with the 21's properly with potentially letting Benjamin go and have 6months in league 2 IMO
negative as it sounds mate ideally EFC do just become mid-table fodder for a couple years and are able to throw player sin now and again, especially if they're sort of safe feb-march time like most dull mid-table sides are
even when we used to do the last couple games of the season throwing u21's off the bench it was a nice touch.
agree with what you're saying above, but for example on Bradley he had a loan at Bolton and the rest were already really really highly thought of
the only one really highly thought of at EFC currently are Graham/ Clarke/ Armstrong
i think EFC's weaknesses are in finding the right loans, but they are getting better at this and huge props to James Vaughan on that front.
the next step is finding the right loans for Armstrong/ Dixon/ Benjamin to either improve value, or in the unlikelihood for the latter two, improve first team prospect.
4.) 22 Jan 2025 10:31:04
sorry to add on to my latest replies on finding the right loans
good examples - Cannon/ preston Mills/ Oxford Tyrer/ Chesterfield and Blackpool
Bad Examples - all of Reece Welch's loans, very very very highly thought of at EFC a couple years ago, but the loan decisions were absolutely woeful, the latest being in Belgian second div and not playing at all.
Onyango's haven't been great
Dobbins weren't brilliant either and came too late
the u21 league is deceiving, if you're not standing out then you are nowhere near Premier league level, it's why most of the league 2 reserve sides turn them over in the papa johns trophy, because the difference between that and mens first team is next level
i'd rather them be playing league 2/ conference than 21's football if your 19/ 20 IMO, all about playing games 7 getting used to high pressure environments.
5.) 22 Jan 2025 11:05:38
BN - sherif and Benjamin could well step up, however there was absolutely no chance that Dyche would have given them a sniff - he sticks with what he knows and it appears he believes age is a better indication of talent than talent itself.
Now Moyes is in charge I imagine we may well see some youngsters given a chance and was good to see Sherif made the bench the other day.
6.) 22 Jan 2025 11:12:14
Forgot about young Mills as well mate. Hopefully he bounces back from this injury ok and we have chance to see if he can cut it out on the right flank mate.
I agree mate. It would certainly be nice to have a breather from the season-long slogs we have had to endure in recent seasons.
Yeah, that is a fair point mate. I guess those players weren't the greatest examples as they are coming through at the biggest clubs in the world, so they must be serious talents. I guess I was more meaning that even the biggest clubs utilise their younger players and it is all relative to the levels of the clubs.
I was going to mention Vaughany seems to be doing a decent job since he came in, so good point again mate.
Reece Welch did spring to mind as well. He was very highly thought of wasn't he, training with the 1st team, pre-season tours and then fell off a cliff after the loan at Forest Green.
Yeah spot on mate. Nothing can prepare you for the differences in physicality and intensity of the man's game other than actually playing in them.
Hopefully Moyes can unearth and mould a few gems and save us a decent amount of money on transfers.
Onwards an upwards mate - appreciate the detailed insight.
7.) 22 Jan 2025 13:28:24
Many thanks wblue2. I was the one who asked the question, very difficult living in the US to get any news on the academy players so your comments are very welcome, please if you have time and get any further news let us know. It was difficult to know when SD was Manager if we had any good prospects and SD would not play them. Under Moyes I believe that problem will go away. If, for example, Armstrong is good enough Moyes will use him.
8.) 22 Jan 2025 15:13:38
no worries BlueMike
it's always a hard measuring stick with the youth, as of writing Harrison Armstrong aside there's none really knocking on the door to be included at first team level
Armstrong in my opinion, especially turning 18 now would benefit greatly from a 6month loan. think be a great experience for him to go get some first team minutes
especially with Tim/ Garner/ McNeil all coming back shortly, he had a very very brief spell with the 21's where he made that look pretty simple as well
as i say when your in trouble i do understand the youth maybe not getting a look in, it's pressure of highest order
hopefully few of the current u18's get some slow progression, supposedly Braiden Graham who i mentioned they see as a coup, has been dipped in and out of first team training just for some experience.
9.) 22 Jan 2025 17:05:13
Wblue 2.my god lad . you need your own website. I'll read the rest of your posts as soon as. don't tell me what happens in the end. it's like a Mills and Boon.
10.) 22 Jan 2025 19:01:29
Great read, both OP and replies, and an interesting topic to boot ??
My thoughts are that the standard of the academy football isn't a true reflection of how these players will fair in open age football. Youth players have far too much too soon imo, I don't think any top level clubs get them to clean changing rooms or first team players boots these days. They certainly don't pay them the standard yts wage of 38 quid or so per week!
I'd much rather the system would revert back to how it used to be with the old reserve fixtures, I know that won't happen though. I think a proper reserve league, coupled with sending promising kids on loan to lower league teams, would be better than the current system. Only playing against similar age opposition after Under 18s doesn't do them much good imo.
11.) 23 Jan 2025 09:20:34
you can drop a couple first team players down to u21's football for gametime, but clubs just don't seem to do it in case of injury
with long term planning, it should really be top to bottom way of getting your players used to playing how the first team would, then loaning them to sides where they'll play first team football either of a similar style or (in my opinion) sending them somewhere that will help improve on their weaknesses
21's league for development is pointless to me, agreed.
the 18's that are good anyway, normally step up to 21's when they are 17 (again great example of constantly using Harrison Armstrong whose only just turned 18 the past weekend)
EFC's problem for a while has been just leaving their players in the 21's hoping they develop, without finding loans earlier to either again A) boost chances of first team or the more likely B) hopefully bring in a fee
most of them also go to league 2 sides and hardly play, which says a lot really about the drop from 21's to even league two
my favourite example of EFC loans lately is Harry Tyrer
all be it a little late, they need to do it earlier, but had a non-league loan at Chester for a season, then non-league promotion chasing Chesterfield where he was brilliant. now finds himself at a good club in Blackpool in League 1 on loan also doing well, it's good natural progression, he's 23 now and could save EFC some money on a back up keeper this summer when/ if Virginia leaves.
20 Jan 2025 14:22:56
brilliant win, much much needed
got to use it as a platform
really come on just to post about Richarlison, don't get me wrong i have admiration for him and his determination/ love for EFC
but the wanting him back, i get it as romanticised, but he can't stay fit at Spurs. he's injury riddled the last couple years, EFC focus shouldn't be on players like that anymore, it should be on finding the next Richarlison.
1.) 20 Jan 2025 14:56:34
Half of spurs are injured I just think Ange is a terrible manager and is running them into the ground, klopp had to change his game when he first arrived but ange is to big headed to change anything.
2.) 20 Jan 2025 15:52:50
I can see both sides of the argument. A short term deal would be a no brainer for me. He's streets ahead of most of our players and has a desire to do well for the club that is matched by few. We saw what difference a bit of passion makes on Sunday. Of course, if he's injured, steer clear. Room for a little romanticism in football - why would we all care so much if there wasn't.
3.) 20 Jan 2025 17:21:13
Can’t see him moving with Solanke out - scored 1 in 3 for us and also wears heart on sleeve - seems to love the club - I’d have him back mo bother at all.
Spurs fans don’t really like him - he’s a blue really!
31 Oct 2024 16:32:24
clearly a lot on this site are not happy with Sean Dyche, me personally, i think he should be a figure fondly remembered when his deal expires next summer
came in very difficult circumstances, had to manage things out of his control and faced the craziest of circumstances
has the football been great? no.
did he save EFC from what looked like a certain relegation, then the season after have us not even in the conversation with a -10 deduction? yes (know it was -8 in the end, but at the time but we didn't know that whilst we were slogging for points)
i think you can admit Dyche has done the job asked of him whilst also saying it's the right choice to go separate ways next summer, with a handshake and a firm 'thank you'
no it's not this miracle job, but it doesn't have to be, it's rare from EFC managers in recent times that they actually do the job asked of them. was the bar the lowest it has been? yes but the challenges faced were also x10 the amount any other manager in recent years has had to deal with
just a bit of respect is needed, can Dyche improve? yes.
is there need for this much disrespect and speaking about him as if he's the worst gaffer ever and not helped EFC in their darkest times? not a chance.
1.) 31 Oct 2024 17:07:29
Can't argue with any of that WBlue ?
He did very well under the circumstances, doubt a lot would have.
Forever grateful, but as a club wanting to get to the next level he isn't the right man to take us forward and clearly not going to change his ideas and I totally don't like the disrespectful name calling by fans of him and really wish he could put 2 fingers up to them all and succeed whilst changing his ways, but not going to happen so as you say it's a thank you from me for guiding our club in what as and is a troubled period.
2.) 31 Oct 2024 17:37:56
He kept us up and a big thankyou, we now need to move on a new manager is vital.
3.) 31 Oct 2024 17:27:18
Can Dyche improve? Never in a million years. As ed025 says. Thanks and make sure the door does not bang your arse on the way out.
{Ed025's Note - as Del Boy once said...a leopard never changes its stripes Nick.. :)
4.) 31 Oct 2024 19:01:32
He will end up with the same respect as Allardyce. 5million a year he earns so he's not kept us up out of the goodness of his heart.
What's ruining his reputation is his arrogance, his attitude to the fans, his constant excuses for not being able to move the team forward.
His constant remarks about the state of the club even now after 2 years in the job.
He reminds me of that guy at work who has the same poor excuses for just doing enough to keep a job but nothing more. The world's full of them.
5.) 31 Oct 2024 20:08:41
I'm not having any of that.
6.) 31 Oct 2024 20:10:48
Well said Smit, the problem with SD is that he is one dimensional, refuses to change regardless of the situation and if left in charge would keep us flirting with relegation every year. New owners, new stadium, hopefully new ideas and a new dawn.
7.) 01 Nov 2024 07:14:55
It’s all about opinions. Personally mine is that he’s a terrible coach. We play the worst brand of football in the league and he is happy with this. Well I’m not. Even when we win, which is rare, are we ever entertained in the same ways our competing fans are? Definitely not.
The very reasons the OP gives to be grateful are the running commentary of SD plethora of excuses when we lose. I’m sick of this low bar we have as a club. We go around with our proud history and our great work in the community. But we role over on the pitch and play as if we’re apologising for being in this league.
SD gets no thanks from me at all. I can’t wait to see the back of him. When they do actually get rid I just hope our new owners designate set the bar for his replacement higher than their predecessor. Just my opinion of course.
{Ed025's Note - i agree with a lot of that Ace, the caveat (or maybe excuse) is that he inherited a very weak squad and no money to spend at a club who were in a very bad place mate, but for me Dyche is very limited and has a penchant to not lose games rather than win them and the standard of football and entertainment is nothing short of deplorable, the bar has been set very low mainly because the club has an owner who has given up on the club and his mismanagement has turned us into perennial survival candidates with a lack of ambition, hopefully TFG will come in and things will change and with the new stadium and new hope will turn us into a club befitting our history and incredible fan base, the first thing they should do is get rid of the manager who is not up to the job even though he has done well to a certain extent to keep us in this league, its time for change and a new broom to sweep away the cobwebs and move this club forward..
8.) 01 Nov 2024 09:56:50
yeah above isn't me saying you know, 'wow hang a picture up of him at BMD! '
it's a basic acceptance, and it's not buying in to his constant reminders (annoying i agree) but what he says most of the time is true, the factors at play at EFC in recent years have been crazy
i just think a bit of respect, the way you see him spoke about on twitter and here is like he's an anchor on EFC, when in reality he's done a good job and many recognise that.
as i say, to move forwards it's right to change in the summer, it's a results business at the end of the day.
9.) 01 Nov 2024 14:46:19
Spot on wblue2.
10.) 01 Nov 2024 09:39:56
Definitive Ed good stuff mate.
I feel similar, I cannot slag the fella off too much, however he has convinced me that he is only a troubleshooter type of manager, which is a speciality in itself but a PL club with ambition needs much, much more.
{Ed025's Note - absolutely GD..
11.) 01 Nov 2024 16:55:05
Look the guys level is bottom half Premiership. He's managed to keep us up but now we need a manager who knows how to win things, and can play football worth watching.
12.) 02 Nov 2024 17:39:31
I'm talking to the 9 who likes that.
04 Mar 2025 11:45:41
yeah i'm with you BR
whilst we're missing him
we're safe now, just let him heal properly ready for whenever
think Moyes mentioned other week about injections of some sort, i'd just leave him be.
04 Mar 2025 11:42:38
Brazilian winger @ Marseille mate, predominantly left from what i remember
we've been linked before pretty sure, but think he's having a good year this year in comparison to last few
don't really know much else.
27 Feb 2025 16:28:56
it's a very Moyes thing to do anyway
it's being viewed as a team bonding opportunity too.
29 Jan 2025 09:05:18
it's not a limit on Premier league players mate, it's a limit on domestic loan players.
21 Jan 2025 15:56:23
Steady on, just take it one week at a time
Spurs game whilst great, Spurs were absolutely all over the place at the back.
28 Apr 2025 10:32:45
the ones who are good enough you see get glimpses and first team level exposure in loan deals, and you see them get it early doors
wishful thinking that some of these 21's are good enough helps no one.
03 Apr 2025 14:32:42
what would you have his football down as?
attacking numbers are up
chances created are up
goals are up
points are up
form is up.
18 Mar 2025 11:30:52
he's probably more of an 8 mate in honesty
can do it all box to box
he's actually just played deepest of a middle three for Derby in his game vs high flying derby.
17 Mar 2025 09:19:53
he's been on the bench for Rangers lately due to poor form.
14 Mar 2025 11:31:32
point still stands sobs, but Borja played for Southampton in the PL, never played championship football ;)
although i imagine his next step will be.