Everton rumours 2

24 Sep 2023 20:57:13
Ed02 if the 777 takeover goes through do you see Everton signing players from liege Genoa etc similar to Watford and udinese?

{Ed002's Note - No, I am not aware of any such plans.}

25 Sep 2023 15:37:21
Thanks for the response, do you expect any sort of transfer budget to be made available or will it still be a case of sell to buy?

{Ed002's Note - Transfers will not be a matter of discussion right now. Regardless, the club has to be sustainable.}

25 Sep 2023 23:27:52
Steak pies will go up.

26 Sep 2023 06:42:18
Totally agree Ed.

We can’t just think that because we’ve got new owners we can start throwing money around again. Years of signing players with no sell on value, on massive contracts has crippled us.

We’ve got to look to sign younger players who should, given the right amount of time and coaching, become sellable assets. Branwaithe and Onana are perfect examples of this. We will probably lose them both next Summer, but (if we are still in the Prem) we should hope to get £50m for them each maybe more; in Branthwaite’s case, that’s pure profit. We can then look to reinvest that.

The green shoots are there. I reckon we should be in a far better place after the next two transfer windows (if 777 don’t bankrupt us) .

{Ed002's Note - How would 777 bankrupt Everton?}

26 Sep 2023 11:06:21
I think there is misconception that 777 would be bad for our finances which I don't think is the case. They may very well be very good for our finances but at the expense of our soul and possibly even worse results on the pitch if there other clubs performance are to be believed.
Having said that, I think of all the Clubs they own Everton has the most potential upside of they can get the results on the pitch so it really is in their own interests to aim to improve us.

26 Sep 2023 11:23:57
From what I can see 777 will run the club similar to the Liverpool structure, spend what you earn which potentially could be a decent amount once stadium is completed

Genoa and Melbourne seem to be doing ok and they won't invest more into standard liege as there's no money in the Belgian league so why throw it away

Sustainability is something Everton need right now so maybe not all doom and gloom after all.

24 Sep 2023 09:24:26
My mate is a Southampton fan, messaged me saying he can't believe holgate is starting, first ball comes to him, takes too long on the ball, gets caught and the other team score. Was taken off at halftime. Looks like Southampton won't be buying him, so back to us again and more wasted wages.

24 Sep 2023 11:12:25
Just shows how bad our recruitment has been, but also our team selections. He’s struggling in the Championship, early days, I get that, but clearly no where near Premier League level.

24 Sep 2023 11:45:38
At one stage I remember that he was touted as the new Stones but better…

Can only hope he hasn’t long left on his contract and we can loan him out again next season. Maybe to somewhere in Europe.

24 Sep 2023 19:24:47
That lads confidence is shot. He's not as bad as everyone is making out. He needs a run of games to play himself into some form.
The championship is fast paced and physical, so he needs to adapt.
Don't get me wrong, he's long passed being an Everton player and does need to move on as do we. Issue is his contract which I don't know how long he has left.

24 Sep 2023 20:06:55
Holgate came before the Moshiri days guys.

24 Sep 2023 21:42:27
Judging by his comments when he went to Southampton I don't think his confidence is shot, more so that he has an extraordinary excess of confidence.

25 Sep 2023 09:46:48
Agree TD he was always a liability in our defence we are far better these days mate.

25 Sep 2023 23:29:48
Not always and he was initially thought well of.

26 Sep 2023 10:11:08
Wasn't he one of a couple of bright young things that included Tom Davies at one time, remember that trouncing of Man City at Goodison?

27 Sep 2023 17:25:04
It was only a few seasons ago that Holgate was playing really well for us. He was our best centre half, right back and defensive midfielder. His form went and then his confidence quickly followed. He has numerous chances to regain some form and confidence but it hasn't happened, his form now would struggle to get him on an intermediate team.
Unfortunately for us, Ben Godfrey has went pretty much the same way. Godfrey and Keane were taken right out of their comfort zones against Doncaster and struggled with their attacking players.

{Ed025's Note - if you think he has ever played really well you have a better memory than me Joe, i have always seen him as a liability mate..

13 Sep 2023 19:39:52
The echo reporting that we’re looking at a Portuguese midfielder Xeka who was at Rennes last season and is now a free agent.
Do any of the Ed’s have any knowledge on this please.
Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - It would be a surprise to me. Is he fit?}

14 Sep 2023 08:51:54
Don’t know Ed he signed for two years for Rennes last year and is now a free agent so doesn’t sound promising.

14 Sep 2023 23:34:05
Well Ed002, he'll fit right in if he's not fit. 100k a week, 5 year contract. That's the Everton way isn't it.

15 Sep 2023 08:52:05
Dentie we finally appear to be moving away from the previous recruitment that got us into some of the mess we are in.

15 Sep 2023 12:02:58
I hope so Gingerdan.

13 Sep 2023 20:46:33
£5 million for Gomes be good to get him off the payroll.

16 Sep 2023 18:06:11
Looks like Dyche wants to keep him. Or is it a double bluff to shake the Turks up?

16 Sep 2023 21:28:06
Perhaps Dyche wants to keep him in place because he has a wonky table and no one knows more about wobbly legs than Gomes?

12 Sep 2023 13:48:44
The echo reporting that Fenerbace are potentially in for Gomes.

12 Sep 2023 14:01:04
Always a Turkish Club Big C, let Gomes go for nowt as long as they pay his wages eh mate.

08 Sep 2023 18:33:25
With gray gone any chance of free transfers coming in, el ghazi been mentioned?

08 Sep 2023 20:25:58
El Ghazi couldn't get a game last time he was with us, don't see how he'd get one even with our threadbare squad.

08 Sep 2023 20:44:47
I agree just rumour I saw, I just hope we don’t get any injuries too thin as it is, I’m not saying el ghazi is the answer but wonder if someone out there on a deal to end of season could happen.

09 Sep 2023 20:29:04
Could be ok as a squad player.

10 Sep 2023 07:30:24
No chance. He isn’t up to Prem standard. He’d only play cup games against much lower league sides so I’d rather we played some of the youth in those games for experience. If we crash out the cup, who cares as long as we stay up and can rebuild the squad with a new stadium and (with that) better finances.

11 Sep 2023 09:31:33
Nah not for me!

07 Sep 2023 11:10:15
Gray has gone 10m + sell on fee.

07 Sep 2023 15:12:09
Good deal for us that. 1 less distraction around the place. Good profit and his wages off the books. Besides I can't see where he would play. He was never starting before danjuma mcneil or Harrison plus dobbin is in and around the squad.

I know the squad is a couple of injuries away from a crisis but surely financially we're in a much better place than we were.

07 Sep 2023 20:02:00
Only a year left on his contract as well and he was signed for peanuts so the majority of that transfer can go down as profit on the balcone sheet. It’s a long road half but every little helps.

07 Sep 2023 20:21:13
Yes it will pay Ken's wages.

08 Sep 2023 10:53:17
Kens wages would still have to be paid regardless. Grey being sold is a positive step as far as I'm concetned.

06 Sep 2023 07:14:55
Reports today say Gray is on his way after Everton accepted a bid of £8 million from a Assisi club.

06 Sep 2023 08:37:08
Saudi club.

06 Sep 2023 10:58:22
Good business if we can get £8m to 10m for him as he was unlikely going to play for us again.

06 Sep 2023 12:20:13
Yeah mate Sky saying £10 million plus add ons if they sell him later.

05 Sep 2023 11:29:48
Ed02 may I ask if you know if any outgoings before the Saudi and Turkish windows close?

Specifically gray, Andre gomes and dele Alli

Seems very quiet with gomes and Alli, could they stay until January?

{Ed002's Note - Demarai Gray (LW/AM) Will be available. Third choice for Fulham and down the list for Crystal Palace. Everton priced him out of a move to Al-Ettifiq but they could return with a better offer. I think he may leave given that Everton have similar players.
Andre Gomes (CM) Will return from his loan at Lille and then a decision will be made. Lille may be open to making an offer. Wasserman will be looking for other options and are trying to gain interest from the Middle East. I suspect he will stay until January.
Dele Alli (CM/AM) It continues to go horribly wrong and I understand Everton want the entire distraction of Dele Alli away from the club on a permanent basis. He should be at his peak value yet he is worth little to Everton if they want to sell - and finding a buyer will be near impossible. The loan to Besiktas did not well and they did not take up their option to buy. A loan seems the best way to get at least the bulk of his wages off the books - but the PL seems unlikely to offer options. Everton could look to release him but will not want to pay up his contract - so some negotiation is required - particularly with Spurs if Everton want to avoid an issue with the PL. Will stay until January at least unlesss a loan offer appears.}

05 Sep 2023 12:13:37
Thanks very much for the reply.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

03 Sep 2023 11:20:43
Reported Gray has passed his medical and will move to a Saudi club, with him going wonder if we will go for a couple of freebies.

03 Sep 2023 12:16:44
Shame he didn’t go before the deadline, may have opened up some more options for us…. Or was that the plan from the top…

Any good free agents out there? .

03 Sep 2023 12:44:25
"Everton fans have always been great with me but it's so difficult to play for someone who don't show you respect as a person. " Demarai quote from today. Suspect this was said at the airport on his way to Saudi.

03 Sep 2023 14:11:49
4.8 million? Seems cheap considering we were looking for 20million and it's Saudi? Maybe 4.8m is his weekly wage?

03 Sep 2023 14:48:12
All kinds of stuff to unpack with this one. Apparently he was denied a move to a London club after he'd passed a medical. Now Gerrard wants him but the fee is cheaper than what a Premier league club was bidding? SD blanks him for weeks and then last night says he's going to be back in the fold and will be an important player. Now player blasts SD (and seems fair) for dic9ing him around. No coming back from that post and more inept level management that now leaves us short a winger a position we seemed desperate for. Man management class definitely skipped by the sweaty nose picking one. What is it with these guys who take charge of us and get their egos in the way of doing best for the club?

03 Sep 2023 16:25:34
Some players prosper under certain managers, unfortunately it seems that this relationship has gone the other way. It's a managers prerogative to play players that follow instructions, I fear DG's tendancy not to track back or beat his man and throw in a cross. No big loss him leaving, third choice at best for his position.

03 Sep 2023 17:24:08
We don’t know how Gray has acted in this scenario. He’s hardly likely to blame himself for the current situation. Either way, we should let him go to the highest bidder. Free agent wise, there’s a couple of interesting options. Lingard, Morelos, Marega, Jovetic are some of the better known options. Could do with a couple more on 1 year contracts.

03 Sep 2023 18:49:34
Kasper Schmeichel if you want another keeper
Reggie Cannon US right back 28 caps
Ramos for a mercenary on high wages but a bit of steel at the back

I’m hoping we have someone in the U23’s who breaks through this season Onyango is involved with the first team
Perhaps Ryan Astley can step up.

03 Sep 2023 22:26:05
JB toffee
if Lingard is one of the better options out there! I pray we avoid all! Too many here still on stupid wages so just okay kids we have if need be!
We need to stop paying top wages for has beens!

04 Sep 2023 20:03:42
Fair enough. Don’t think a one year contract would hurt personally. Lingard has shown his quality on many occasions. He was outstanding in his first spell for West Ham.

{Ed025's Note - Dele Alli mark 2 for me JB and should be avoided mate..

03 Sep 2023 20:51:40
I think you’ve got to look at his career so far:

Had issues at Leicester and left

Left Leverkeusen after 6 months and they were happy for him to go for similar if not less than they paid for him.

Doesn’t seem to put much effort in when plays - admittedly he has flashes of good performances but not regularly - he also doesn’t do much defensively.

Was given a run out as our number 9 when DCL was injured and didn’t step up.

Wanted to leave and was off to Fulham but that fell through.

Has now posted a childish Instagram post which risks dividing the dressing room and upsetting the apple cart - Pickford allegedly has unfollowed him.

Whilst he can play well at times, I think those times are few and far between and can’t keep him at the club as he’ll be a negative influence.

Not sure this can all be blamed on dyche or the club as feel Gray has a lot to do with the issues.

04 Sep 2023 23:00:18
If there’s a better free transfer out there, go and get him by all means. My view is that the squad is too small. With injuries, we’re in bother.

05 Sep 2023 09:38:42
It’s all a bit fingers crossed on the injuries front until Jan transfer window. And, given the way Dyche likes his players to play full games, week in week out, that’s going to be an issue. Ashley Young’s going to used a lot this season.

01 Sep 2023 23:35:55
Gbamin contract terminated I think we have had a great window.

{Ed025's Note - that certainly helps glt..

01 Sep 2023 23:44:06
Wow, that’s great news if true! Thanks GLT.

01 Sep 2023 23:48:13
It's on sky news swinners.

02 Sep 2023 00:13:16
I’m a bit gutted. When he arrived I’d thought he’d be mint but on the trip to England his body shattered into a thousand pieces : (.

02 Sep 2023 00:18:04
Best 207 minutes I've never seen.

02 Sep 2023 10:21:54
Yeah Bobby, along with his attitude.
The club paid him through his numerous injuries as they should but when he finally gets fit, says he's not coming back despite having a year left.

02 Sep 2023 13:23:23
We could do with releasing the rest of the midfield based on this performance! Might be the least creative midfield the premier league has ever seen. We lose this and there is no way back for me even Guardiola couldn’t get a tune out of this lot no idea how they are premier league footballers. Literally only Beto can hold his head up after that half of football.

02 Sep 2023 14:29:00
Playing for a draw against sheff utd is embarrassing. It might be a new low. No way we stay up when we can’t beat these.

02 Sep 2023 14:41:33
Compared to his minutes played he must be up there with the highest paid players.