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15 Aug 2022 16:20:54
Would anyone take 40m and Bat for Gordon?

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{Ed025's Note - I would BN..


1.) 15 Aug 2022 16:32:14
I have been reading through the reports today Ed and i think that is a good deal when you throw our predicament in the equation.

40m for a player who is, with all due respect, relatively unproven/ raw is a good deal imo.

Chuck in a striker who i understand hasn't set the world alight but he has never truly been given a proper run in teams he has been at. When he has been given backing his returns weren't too bad.

21 in 38 for Liege
17 in 36 for Marseille
7 in 10 for Dortmund on loan
14 in 33 for Besiktas loan

25 in 45 for Belgium (i remember him keeping Rom out of their side at times) .

If we can get him in for essentially a free at 28 years old, i think that would quell a lot of concern.

We are crying out for attacking reinforcements so hopefully would use some of the 40m to get an attacking player in who is adept at playing wide or centrally.

{Ed025's Note - you make a good case for him there BN mate..


2.) 15 Aug 2022 16:50:46
My concern with batshuyai is he only managed 2 goals in 18 games at Crystal Palace.

BN - There’s more than likely a reason he’s not been given a proper go at teams.


3.) 15 Aug 2022 17:05:48
I've started the engine where do I pick him up.


4.) 15 Aug 2022 17:09:11
I appreciate that but he did manage 5 in 11 with them the loan spell prior.

I think it is fair to say that Palace were not a team (certainly at that time) that would see a lot of the ball in games, let alone have it around the oppositions box where strikers can do damage.

By all accounts Frank likes him as a player and his character. Understand the concerns with the Palace record but he showed decent figures at the clubs mentioned above and was starting for Belgium and keeping Rom out of the team, who fans were saying is the best striker we have had for decades.

The lad is 28 and would be essentially a free transfer. I am not sure who people want us to get in if they don't see value in this type of deal mate.


5.) 15 Aug 2022 17:32:52
My concern is he’s had a go in the premier league and never really started games or set the world alight in the league.

He did well last year in Turkey scoring 14 goals in 33 games.

However if you put that in context the season before we signed him Cenk Tosun scored 8 in 16 and the season before that 20 in 33 and we saw how he faired in the premier league.

Scoring regularly in Turkey does not necessarily transfer to the premier league.

If he comes I’ll support him and hope he does well for us - however I wouldn’t be rushing to bring him in.


6.) 15 Aug 2022 19:57:07
He didn't really get a go in the Premier League though as most of his apps came from bit part minutes at the end of games for Chelsea and he was trying to dislodge a prime Diego Costa who arguably won them the league that season and then Olivier Giroud and Morata, hardly tin pot strikers themselves.

His first spell at palace he managed 5 in 11. Granted the 2nd spell wasn't so good but think of playing up top for that Palace side - hard task for any man.

I appreciate scoring in Turkey doesn't necessarily translate to the Prem but you could use examples of world class strikers who never cut it in the Prem but scored hatfuls elsewhere i. e. the great Shevchenko.

At least we have the French league, the Bundesliga and Internationals to also score him off and when you take everything into account - our desperate need for multiple strikers, not just one. He is 28 and he would be on a free when we are tight for cash.

Put it this way he cannot be any worse than Rondon or putting Antony Gordon up front as a false 9.


7.) 15 Aug 2022 21:13:09
He hasn't got any pace and he isn't a target man so how would we play him?
Hes better playing with a 10 but we don't play a 10.
I struggle to see how and where he would play for us.
Comments about how Palace played when he was there are interesting as we are about the same as them now.


8.) 15 Aug 2022 22:48:37
Play him as a striker. There are more than 2 types after all.

Him being a natural finisher with either foot offers us a different look than a target man that can't finish or join up play, or someone who is fast and has no end product.

Walks into our side, that's how he plays for us. You make out we have a definitive style of play, when we have anything but.


 

 

09 Aug 2022 14:14:49
Great to see Onana already fluent in English, can only help the bedding in.

Genuinely cannot wait to see this lad start playing. Most excited i have been for an Everton singing since many a year.

UTFT!

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1.) 09 Aug 2022 19:40:07
Wouldn't be that hard to be more fluent than us ?.


2.) 10 Aug 2022 04:25:27
Can he speak Scouse? Can't remember much English being spoken in West Derby when I was growing up.


 

 

03 Aug 2022 13:38:58
We should have gone for Belotti already before this DCL injury, let alone now.

If we don't at least throw our hat in the ring we will have missed signing a top player on a free.

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1.) 03 Aug 2022 13:46:38
Belotti on his way to roma i believe mate, only way we compete with them is by throwing silly money at him, which we can't afford to do anymore.


2.) 03 Aug 2022 13:54:31
I agree but he'd never had come, we might of enquired, we'll never know now!


3.) 03 Aug 2022 14:09:09
We've already missed loads, what's afew more? ?.


4.) 03 Aug 2022 16:40:24
Sick of hearing rumours about the same players for 2 weeks, cornet coming then he's not, Barkley definitely coming, then definitely not, . either we're crap at getting things done or the newspapers have little to report so churn up the same crap! and hope they get it right so they claim 'we told you first "


5.) 03 Aug 2022 16:53:53
Jose knows a thing or two about an effective reliable striker mate.

Think this one stings me more as i have liked him for many years. Another Tony Cottee!


6.) 03 Aug 2022 17:16:38
Rather try and persuade Cavani to sign for a year.


7.) 03 Aug 2022 19:40:16
We are going to be better off than last year, that is if Lampard lives up to the hype. Magic 40 points awaits.


 

 

 

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16 Aug 2022 15:31:40
DanAus - Spot on fella.

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10 Aug 2022 16:36:42
Beto from Udinese is the ticket gents!

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08 Aug 2022 16:41:41
At that fee, i think it would be smart business to sell.

In our predicament that brings a lot of flexibility.

For everything i like about Ants character and application, he hasn't shown a great deal of technical ability. I know it was only 1 season but his numbers were average and also inflated by a couple of badly deflected goals.

If you are able to get hold of a player like Onana for the same fee these days, i would sell Ant and get someone in.

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04 Aug 2022 13:00:50
He is mustard. Sign him.

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16 Aug 2022 12:56:08
Gilmour 10m. In what world.

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15 Aug 2022 17:09:11
I appreciate that but he did manage 5 in 11 with them the loan spell prior.

I think it is fair to say that Palace were not a team (certainly at that time) that would see a lot of the ball in games, let alone have it around the oppositions box where strikers can do damage.

By all accounts Frank likes him as a player and his character. Understand the concerns with the Palace record but he showed decent figures at the clubs mentioned above and was starting for Belgium and keeping Rom out of the team, who fans were saying is the best striker we have had for decades.

The lad is 28 and would be essentially a free transfer. I am not sure who people want us to get in if they don't see value in this type of deal mate.

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15 Aug 2022 16:32:14
I have been reading through the reports today Ed and i think that is a good deal when you throw our predicament in the equation.

40m for a player who is, with all due respect, relatively unproven/ raw is a good deal imo.

Chuck in a striker who i understand hasn't set the world alight but he has never truly been given a proper run in teams he has been at. When he has been given backing his returns weren't too bad.

21 in 38 for Liege
17 in 36 for Marseille
7 in 10 for Dortmund on loan
14 in 33 for Besiktas loan

25 in 45 for Belgium (i remember him keeping Rom out of their side at times) .

If we can get him in for essentially a free at 28 years old, i think that would quell a lot of concern.

We are crying out for attacking reinforcements so hopefully would use some of the 40m to get an attacking player in who is adept at playing wide or centrally.

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15 Aug 2022 10:02:12
Exactly mate. If Gana was playing in with him Saturday and he lost the ball, Gana swallows that up, no mither, instead of being caught treading water in no mans land like Davies was.

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09 Aug 2022 13:44:19
Cheers Ed077. Great signing for them!

Sa90. Bat wouldn't be my first choice but do i think he is better than what we have up top at the club, then it is a yes.

As brownshoes said, a lot of his minutes have come off the bench when games are nearly dead and buried. I remember his initial loan with Palace he did quite well for them. He did the same at Dortmund. Then when he has played games e. g. Beskitas or Marseille his numbers are fairly decent.

I doubt the lad will have many miles on the clock for a 28 year old.

For sub 10 mill I would take a punt. As long as we negotiate properly and offer a sensible deal/ terms, i think it is worth it. If the price/ wage demands are excessive then politely move on.

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