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29 Jul 2021 11:34:32
Ed, seen some rumours linking us to de vrij. Some even saying we have agreed personal terms and are now discussing with the club. Seems like this has jumped out of nowhere so bit sceltical. Would love you to say there is some truth there though?

cropper16

{Ed002's Note - Stefan de Vrij (CB) Inter would be willing to let SdV leave at the right price, but they could easily price him out of a move - they need to raise funds and the player has not been willing to discuss a new contract. There is no obvious interest although there has been a discussion with Atletico Madrid who would be interested at the right price, but it is dependent on a player leaving. Inter have earmarked a replacement. Mino has been offering him around to clubs who he thinks are looking for a CB and have €40M to spend.}


1.) 29 Jul 2021 12:46:57
Thanks Ed, as ever. he's a good player so would obviously love him. Seen a few articles today saying how we are desperate to sign a cb and that its actually our weak position. Not sure I follow that thinking with Godfrey keane mina and holgate plus kids underneath. I know you have mentioned mina may be up for sale so could understand the need to replace him, just don't see how we are 'desperate'.

{Ed002's Note - He is indeed a good player.}


2.) 31 Jul 2021 00:27:03
Should get Zouma instead.


 

 

21 Jan 2020 11:46:29
Ed, do we have any interest in either or piatek or milik? Seen a few rumours around but can't see it myself. Both are good players on their day but would think we would only open the chequebook that wide for a cm this window.

cropper16

{Ed002's Note - I am afraid that someone has been teasing you although Ronald Koeman had Milik watched at one time.}


1.) 21 Jan 2020 13:17:35
Yep just what I expected. Cheers!


 

 

22 Jul 2019 11:02:35
Hi Ed,

Is there any chance of a quick update on Incomings/ outgoings if you have time? If not much has changed since your last update then no worries.

cropper16

{Ed002's Note - I don't think anything has really changed - Lookman will get the move away he wants. Everton have maybe missed the bus with Malcom as Barcelona have increased his asking price by €20M - so if Everton are keen it needs sorting out now. Everton made a complete hash of a discussion about Morgan Sanson.}


1.) 22 Jul 2019 13:18:18
Thanks ed. Shame about Sanson, I know you rate him and he's always looked a good player when I have seen him. Is that dead in the water or do you think it could be recovered?

{Ed002's Note - Sure but Everton have done themselves no favours at all.}


2.) 22 Jul 2019 15:42:16
shame they didn't mess up the deal for the Morgan we've got.


3.) 22 Jul 2019 15:40:07
Ed002, what on earth is going on re Sanson, and others over the years, the common thread for years has been the inability to get targets over the line, penny pinching since the Moores era and reports like yours that Everton do themselves no favours can i ask what F**K up has happened now, we even had a director giving Nigel Martyn directions to Leeds at one time, i give in.

{Ed002's Note - There are others interested in him as well, and in England there has also been a meeting with Wolves. If Everton want to resolve issues like this then they need to behave professionally. It is not just Everton who are struggling with respect to behavior, a number of English sides are being tainted as amateurs - and the oft cited arrogance that comes with having money.}


4.) 22 Jul 2019 15:45:14
ED002 i didn't mean in previous post the multitude of wild connections in the transfer window, that we get linked to, but connections you sort of hint to genuine.


5.) 22 Jul 2019 21:54:24
If Barcelona have increased their price by 20mill I don’t think they will have any takers at 50ish mill. With that it mind I definitely wouldn’t say we’ve missed the boat Ed, but more a case of if it happens it will be later on at a price that suits us.


6.) 23 Jul 2019 09:30:12
I was thinking the same thing Sir_Loin. It will be a test of nerve I think. And to be fair to Brands, he has that in spades. I wouldn’t be surprised if we did something in the last week if there are no takers before.


7.) 23 Jul 2019 13:41:36
Ed002, whilst we're obviously an English club with money, we're led to believe that Brands does the deals and his a master of his craft. He's Dutch. Is he as good as people make out or not? I wouldn't expect 'English Arrogance' from him.

{Ed002's Note - Read it again. And don't put things in quotation marks that are not quotes.}


8.) 23 Jul 2019 15:40:22
No offence ed, you're knowledge is second to none, but you called him an a idiot when you already said on this thread that English sides are arrogant due to money, when all bullens asked was does that in your opinion whether you belueve that your statement corresponds to marcel brands and his vision and history in the transfer markets. No hate btw, i just think you misunderstood the comment above.

{Ed002's Note - Try reading the posts rather than embarrassing yourself as well.}


9.) 23 Jul 2019 18:01:07
How about admit when you're wrong.

{Ed001's Note - you really should take your own advice.}


 

 

16 Aug 2017 23:01:25
Picture going around of a young gylfi standing next to the Dixie Dean statue in an Everton top . My gut tells me it's false but would love it to be true. Anyone else seen it?

cropper16

1.) 17 Aug 2017 05:06:34
it is true.


2.) 17 Aug 2017 06:06:19
I posted it to sightings.


3.) 17 Aug 2017 08:29:19
He even went on a tour with the youth team. Shame we didn't sign him up then.


4.) 17 Aug 2017 08:29:53
yea it's his brother who put it up. said he spent a week training with us when he was 12 and was a ballot at gpoodison.


5.) 17 Aug 2017 11:52:26
and a ball boy as well :) :)


6.) 17 Aug 2017 18:13:36
I for one understood the joke Dixie :-)


7.) 17 Aug 2017 18:24:55
Gpoodison must be what they used to call the queue for the toilets :)


 

 

04 Jul 2017 23:32:13
Lots of reports saying that Rooney has withdrawn from Uniteds pre-season and will complete a deal by end of the week. Seen different types of deal but latest ones are pointing to a free. He was never going to rejoin us at the top of his game and I don't think he is an automatic starter, but no one can deny that he is bringing much more than on the pitch performances. Plus, I'm hugely looking forward too seeing the best player I have seen in blue pull on the colours again.

cropper16

1.) 04 Jul 2017 23:33:51
Rooney done deal by all accounts.


2.) 05 Jul 2017 01:16:16
Not sure if this is a good thing or not, time will tell I guess. Other question is "what position will he play? "


3.) 05 Jul 2017 01:40:20
i called this earlier on this was jose himself who blocked waynes return hoping we would pay 20 30 mill for him or they would sell him to china i guess but as many of you pointed out waynes not the type to uproot his whole family and. from when jose decided he no longer wanted him it was always going to happen. i hope he proves his critics wrong even if i can't see it myself, dare we dream of a whole new eleven i mean seriously walshy koeman and moshiri i have nowhere left to pinch please stop or move time forward so the season starts coyb.


4.) 05 Jul 2017 08:40:02
In answer to what position will he play. I think the No 10 role. Now a days he is best coming from behind the ball.


5.) 05 Jul 2017 15:16:43
some people need to take a step back with rooney, seen some awful comments on the web, from blues fans. reality is since the arrival of martial and then the emergence of lingard and rashford rooney has been played in a variety of positions, and been sub'd to make way for youngsters add to that the constant change in managers utd have been thru over past few years, and the manager they have now, who let's face it is the crown prince of buying players. well we've all seen they're results recently leaves utd in a position of needing / wanting to buy players 100mil plus, then they need to offload. i am sure that waynes age will not be a factor for at least a season or so cause he will have desire and heart to carry him thru and i am sure if he gets the wedge he wants from utd i am sure he would play for efc for free we all know he won't but he would i am sure if it was the only way to the neh say'rs your saying no to a player who despite his history loves everton he is a leader a winner and am sure will wisen a lot of our younger players quicker what is there not to like. whether on the pitch or on the training ground he will be a massive influence you just can't buy love like rooney has for us i would expect us to be a position higher in the table because of him altho not sure we will do much better than last season but hoping for more.


6.) 05 Jul 2017 17:31:09
My mate has just text me to say he's signed he heard it on radio merseyside their web site says he's withdrawn from the tour Man utd squad
Big C.


7.) 05 Jul 2017 17:32:55
The guy is still quality, just lost his mojo at the man said. He will go all out for us in an effort to get back into the England squad for the World Cup. May only last one season, but what a season it could be.


 

 

 

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06 Jun 2021 11:42:13
Hey Eds, hoping you can clear something up for me.

I've see a lot of people saying if we get nuno we could expect an influx of Portuguese youngsters. I thought the main reason this was happening was because mendes is connected with wolves as a club? I think he is also nunos agent but didn't think that was the main factor.

cropper16

{Ed002's Note - Wolves are concerned that Everton will use Mendes (who also advises Moshiri) to take Neto. I explained before about the concerns Brands has over advisors driving Everton - and it may be a returning issue.}


1.) 06 Jun 2021 12:55:02
Surely by now Moshiri must realise that this hasn't worked in the past.


 

 

01 Jun 2021 22:01:09
Evening ed, in the past we were linked with rangnick. Any chances of any past interest being reignited?

cropper16

{Ed025's Note - ralf seems to have gone off the radar recently cropper mate..


 

 

08 Jan 2020 11:32:41
Ed, this is probably a stupid question but are the work permit rules the same for loan players as to permanent moves?

cropper16

{Ed002's Note - It works very slightly different (in terms of duration and application) but fundamentally the same in terms of the points system.}


 

 

02 Aug 2019 13:51:17
Ed, not sure if you are at liberty to say, or even if you would want to. Often you say that clubs are interested in a player. What is it that happens for you to know that? Is it that the club has spoken to agents/ clubs or something similar?

cropper16

{Ed002's Note - Yes, typically they will have spoken with agents or the selling club themselves.}


 

 

25 Jun 2019 20:58:24
Gomes done. 25m is a steal and that's in euros! CB st and maybe a rw and i'm made up.

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29 Jul 2021 12:46:57
Thanks Ed, as ever. he's a good player so would obviously love him. Seen a few articles today saying how we are desperate to sign a cb and that its actually our weak position. Not sure I follow that thinking with Godfrey keane mina and holgate plus kids underneath. I know you have mentioned mina may be up for sale so could understand the need to replace him, just don't see how we are 'desperate'.

cropper16

{Ed002's Note - He is indeed a good player.}


 

 

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20 Jul 2021 14:33:44
100% agree with Ed here. Let the powers that be do their jobs and stay out of it. At this point i guess very few people actually know what's happened but his name is all over the Internet along with the jokes that come with it. If its true, then he deserves everything that's coming to him but if its not his career is over anyway because of the publics reaction to everything. I personally know people who have been accused of doing horrible things by bitter ex partners. They lost their jobs, family and everything else even though in one case he categorically proved it was physically impossible to be true.

I don't know what the situation isjoq but he is innocent until proven guilty for a reason.

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15 Jun 2021 19:47:09
Nah, the tight git skipped his round in the boozer last weekend.

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21 Jan 2020 13:17:35
Yep just what I expected. Cheers!

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03 Aug 2019 13:02:00
Agree, great post ed. I knew there was more to it than just selling a player and getting the money but I didn't know there were payments to the clubs who the player was with at youth level. Think that's great, out of interest do you know if the 5% is common across other leagues/ countries?

cropper16

{Ed001's Note - it is across all countries. So even a player like Gueye would have required 5% to go from his fee.}


 

 

 

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28 Jul 2021 10:09:08
I think we really need to be realistic here. As Ed says, those clubs make so much more than us, they can then afford to pay more (both in fees and wages) under ffp guidelines.

Hopefully the new stadium boosts our income and closes the gap but its a long game to get to those heights (if we ever do) .

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19 Jul 2021 17:28:45
The difference is that there is only 1 number 10 position. There are 2 wing positions so obviously you need more players to cover it. All season I read comment after comment about how we have to improve our options out wide. Now we are doing that, people are complaining about that (I don't mean you by the way) . Gray and townsend aren't the big names anyone wanted, but they are decent players who fill out the squad and mean we can move a big earner on, like bernard in this example. From all of the rumours it seems like these 2 will come in then we are looking at a higher level players (Bailey, mcneil, chukwueze) . I'm more than happy with that personally.

cropper16

{Ed025's Note - some good points there cropper mate..


 

 

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19 Jul 2021 10:40:18
Why do these moves mean we won't go for someone like Bailey? Links around the Web this morning. I fully believe both gray and Townsend will be squad players. Ultimately them 2 and begovic will be completely covered by someone like bernard going.

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18 Jul 2021 18:58:20
I'm OK with them if they are squad players. Bernard is on a good wage so would hope the 2 are coming in to replace him. Still convinced there is a player in gray (I'm probably wrong) and Townsend is ok for a squad player.


That's my hope anyway.

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13 May 2020 10:03:34
Whilst it looks great on paper, there are a lot of other fees involved with both selling abd buying players. Ed has given some information about this in the past but i know he doesn't like getting too much into finances. Personally i also think we may struggle to sell some players due to their current wages abd might have extra expense there.

cropper16

{Ed002's Note - It might be an apt time to explain again about the cost of transfers (excluding wages). What is paid by the buying club would typically include:

(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the Premier League.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent £44M plus VAT on agent fees (nearly double the next highest) in 2018/2019.
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Solidarity and Traing Contribututions (see below).
(n) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (usually waived).

What is paid by the selling club would typically include:

(a) If the player is under 24 and moving between different football associations, a Solidarity contribution paid to his previous clubs responsible for his training - this is 5% of the transfer fee received (apportioned 5% of the contribution for each year from the season of his 12th birthday to the season of his 15th birthday and 10% of the contribution for each season from his 16th to 23rd birthdays). This is generally (there are exceptions) recoverable from the buying club but responsibility (that is meant to be with the buying club) can be assigned to the selling club.
(b) If the player moves to a higher category club (all clubs being categorised 1 to 4) then Training Compensation is due for the period of age 12 to 21. Compensation is due to all clubs when the player turns from amateur to professional and thereafter only when he moves from his final training club to another club. The initial training compensation is levied at the training costs associated with Category 4 clubs. The subsequent figure is agreed between the sides or tribuneral if necessary. This is generally (there are exceptions) recoverable from the buying club but responsibility (that is meant to be with the buying club) can be assigned to the selling club.
(c) Any monies owed to the player if he did not request a transfer – again this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(d) Any monies owed to the player in terms of his contract (typically outstanding owed wages (not future wages) and bonuses).
(e) Any money contractually due to a previous club as the result of a sell-on clause.}