Everton banter 8

09 Sep 2026 16:31:40
Just back from hols and watched last week's game, that’s the best I’ve seen us play in ages. Nice slick passing, hardly any back passes and many shots on goal, we keep up that standard of play and hopefully injury free Europe is in our grasp. 3 points on Sat would be fantastic for us.

09 Sep 2026 13:38:43
We have been told on numerous occasions that the Friedkin's are ruthless businessmen.

If that is the case, then why is Kinnear and the morons he brought with him from Leeds still at the club? They all should've gone the morning after the transfer window debacle.

I feel that severance payments may be the reason.

Planning for the January window should've started by now and Kinnear and Co. shouldn't be anywhere near it.

09 Sep 2026 14:08:59
I wondered why the Friedkins brought in Angus Kinnear. It was probably because he was in charge of the Arsenal move to their new stadium, and he did the same with the West Ham move to their new stadium.
So I presume that he was brought in to transition us from Goodison to Hill Dickinson and to maximize the revenue from the new stadium.

Consequently, I can't see him going anywhere.
The big question is, "Who is our head scout and who is in charge of the recruitment team?" Did Kinnear bring them from Leeds? They are the ones that need replacing.

09 Sep 2026 16:13:28
I thought about this the other day and came to a complete opposite assumption. I think they paid for and got exactly what they want from having Kinear as the head of recruitment and his team. I think these are the days for unpopular decisions. The rivers of blood will be on his hands.

When things become a lot better and we can actually spend some money without having to sell our best players, he will be sacked and replaced with a team with a different set of skills. I think these Friedkins know exactly what they're doing. Mushrooms much?

09 Sep 2026 16:54:18
I stated on here when he was appointed that the claim that we now had a world class CEO would come back to bite the owners.

When he left Leeds, the vast majority of their supporters were over the moon as they were fed up with all the b******t, repeated false promises and a failure to secure or compete for transfer targets.

Our latest transfer window ( the worst in living memory ) can politely be described as an abject failure as is Mr Kinnear.

The failures are all well documented and lie firmly at his door. He is totally out of his depth.



He arrogantly promised our first choice Right Back, has left us with the worst Left Back in the division and no specialist competition and left us with a totally inadequate Striker.

He asked to be judged at the end of the transfer window. Is there anyone who thinks that the fiasco on deadline day was a success? Didn't think so.

Moyes has my sympathy, he had a difficult enough job as it was and Kinnear has made it so much harder.

He should show some integrity and walk, but we all know that he won't.

09 Sep 2026 19:20:59
Rohl, George, Hayden, Niles, Grealish, Johnson and Noorgard are some of the best players we've signed in one window for a long time. Youth, experience, knowledgeable, part of champions league clubs, one rated the best player in their league, one from the league champions and more importantly quality players.

7 players brought in. The one that got away was the striker that due to him missing an earlier flight to arrive late for his medical (he should have been there at 830am and turned up in the afternoon) which showed he still had a knee injury and his club didn't send over his medical documents, we chose to question and alter the deal. This wasn't a cheap purchase, it would have been one of our biggest ever.

Was it perfect? No. Should we have done better in getting players in earlier? maybe. But it was clear we couldn't buy anyone else due to SCR (which doesn't mean we're skint but we have to live within our means) until we sold a player.

They made a mistake with Armstrong, then corrected it. They were right to sacrifice Ndiaye because he wasn't going to sign another contract and wanted out. Could it have been done earlier? No because City and Spurs were buying other players for huge sums and also waiting to sell players of their own.

As for Kinnear, he is to blame for parts of it, so too is the recruitment team and some of the blame is just circumstance. However, I can't blame him for the way the club is run. The stadium continues to create money, he is also improving it what it offers outside of football including the Rugby events, and other events, plus costs are under control, the wage bill reduced with players coming in on more affordable contracts and other expensive ones gone.

Worst window in living memory is an insane comment after what we've been going through year after year of poor quality and over priced players. If you're all blaming him based on a transfer window or more like the last day of it then I'd put that under the insane label as well.

He and the rest of the club need and must do better. They need to learn from past mistakes. However, we're not fighting relegation and I doubt with the quality we have will be anywhere near it. This squad all be it small, is more than good enough to compete at the right end of the table. 2 years ago today I'd have bitten your hand off to think like that. We are light years away from that era.

So stay calm, support the players on match day and if you're still not sure take a look back a couple of years and see whether he has improved the club since being here? Or where you happy with Dyche, Moshiri and the team we had? Didn't think so.

I'm angry and will be until we sort the final bits out but I'm also very conscious of how this club had been run before Kinnear and TFG.

09 Sep 2026 20:48:54
Thanks for the insane comment. Shows absolutely no class.
Thought this site was all about opinions.

09 Sep 2026 21:27:46
Great post, BlueJohn.

09 Sep 2026 21:54:33
No offense meant, SB, and I'll concede about my lack of class.

However, for some reason, these days it's either hero or villain. Sometimes they can be neither, and in this case, people are focusing on one aspect of what the owners and CEO are doing. The bigger picture is much clearer for once, even if there's still some rain clouds about.

09 Sep 2026 22:17:48
While agreeing with some of your sentiments, BlueJohn, I can't agree with some of the data. We already had Grealish, Rohl and George last season, so yes, good that we made them permanent, but it took little effort from a scouting viewpoint. We recruited Johnson, Hackney, Norgaard and Maitland-Niles, and one of them is injured. Hackney is a great signing, the others we will see.
We let seven leave from last year, Patterson, Aznou, Beto, Iroegbunam, Ndiaye, McNeil and Gueye.


We failed to get in a striker or back-up for both right-back and left-back positions, needs that we have had since I was a lot younger.
So, not the worse in living memory, but in my very humble opinion not a great one either.
As I suggested above, Kinnear was recruited because of the new stadium and as far as we can see is doing a good job of making it a money maker. As CEO, though, he has to get his scouting and recruitment team to do better.

09 Sep 2026 22:45:32
I'd say with Rohl, George and Jack, they were recruited and scouted by the same people who brought them permanently this summer. For Tim and Gana, we brought Hackney and Norgard. McNeil, we got Johnson, and for Patterson we got Niles.

Aznou is right to go on loan, and due to more strength in midfield, Garner can be sacrificed to cover any potential injury to Myko, and the same for Rohl as RB. Aznou forced Moyes' hand for the loan as well.

I feel Dibbling will now be given more game time to cover Ndiaye.



However, I accept we need better cover for the RB and LB, and they failed in covering Beto leaving. Our hand was forced a little due to the Italian league closing earlier than ours, and losing the 18m on the table for him is difficult, especially as it allows us to go into the market in a stronger financial position.

As I said, I'm angry as well, but maybe my view is different to some because I accept the difficult circumstances we were under. Doesn't mean I'm right though, and I'm not, usually, according to the missus.

10 Sep 2026 00:52:52
It's not about being right or wrong, we all have opinions and they may differ, but one thing that we have in common is our love for Everton. I went to my first game age six, eighty years ago and the passion has not diminished with age.

{Ed025's Note - great stuff Mike, you have seen more great Everton sides than most of us mate, im lucky being 68 to have seen some cracking teams, its those under 40 that i feel sorry for..

10 Sep 2026 10:17:01
Soon to be those under 50!
I'm 48 and had a lot of great memories initially - for us still to be looking back to 30+ years ago is terrible - however, do point out without introduction of the Premier League I'm sure cups and leagues would have been shared out more - I don't realistically see anyone other than Arsenal, City, Chelsea, Liverpool winning league in next 20 years - it's a scandal, to be honest, and so boring.

10 Sep 2026 18:59:28
Yes some fantastic teams and players Ed025. Remember being at a game as kids with an attendance of about 78, 000 at Goodison with my mate Neville Smith who went on to co-write and act in the "Golden Vision". Great days and memories.

{Ed025's Note - i was only a twinkle in my dads eye then Mike but it must have been brilliant mate..

09 Sep 2026 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Matchday 3 - Quick Round Up

08 Sep 2026 23:20:35
After the Balogun fiasco and the reported fee of around 38-40 million for him, why on earth did we not go for Troy Parrot? He cost Betis £16 million with 4 million add-ons, scored the winner against Real Madrid and then scores again in the Champions League tonight.

When are Everton gonna take a chance on a player for god’s sake? His fee was nothing in today’s market. Beggars belief.

09 Sep 2026 07:36:30
What beggars belief is the constant negativity, it is toxic. Whatever praise is uttered (I sense reluctantly) is always tempered with a but. I am off.

09 Sep 2026 09:49:03
Once bitten, twice shy? We took a chance on our last two forwards and look where that got us!

09 Sep 2026 10:08:27
Every transfer has an element of risk.
The general consensus on here seemed to be that Parrott was not up to standard, but looks to be doing well. Good luck to him.
I can see us making do with what we have until January. George, Alcaraz, Graham could all do a job for us up top if needed.


Hopefully we'll get the financial backing to bring a few in in January, the squad will be knackered by then. One game at a time, if we can get a result at Spurs, and progress in the EFL Cup next week, we'll have started very well.

09 Sep 2026 14:24:33
Everton need to show some guts, passed up on so many opportunities, not even a sniff, and tons at decent prices.
When they get new blood, they barely play them, not just Moyesy, Dychey too.
The scouting has been rubbish, generally, seems they don't look beyond the Championship, that's a mistake and costing us.


Granted they've been burned, but you have to dig deeper, other teams seem to have much more creativity in their scouting system.
We always get to about 70% strength, but lack in areas. Europe. Dream on, we never have the depth.

09 Sep 2026 15:55:02
JB, I like the idea of Alcaraz up top.

08 Sep 2026 18:38:31
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Matchday 3 - Quick Round Up

08 Sep 2026 16:18:53
Some need to take note non-Everton but relevant Macalister on not yet having a contract extension offer. 'Of course like all footballers, I can have bad games and good games.'

08 Sep 2026 14:03:53
⚽ Inter Milan — 124 goals in 219 games
⚽ Galatasaray — 77 goals in 134 games
⚽ PSG — 38 goals in 92 games

There’s no doubting Mauro Icardis scoring record, and all at big clubs too, gotta be worth a 6 or 12 month contract? As a free agent he looks impressive.

08 Sep 2026 14:45:44
I'd agree, Elvis, stats are impressive.
You'd have to assume that there're reasons why no one's gone in for him. Lots of baggage.

08 Sep 2026 16:27:10
From the things that I've heard about him, he is painted as a bit of a bad apple in the dressing room. Do we need a disruptive character being thrown in our dressing room?

08 Sep 2026 16:45:13
Bad news, that guy, lots of baggage. Do well to keep clear of him.

08 Sep 2026 18:38:29
He's an absolute nut case and a bad egg. I'd stay well away from him.

08 Sep 2026 19:08:37
Lock your misses up - he be after her

08 Sep 2026 19:34:17
Good luck with mine.

09 Sep 2026 15:23:14
Mine's from Sunderland and is hard as!

08 Sep 2026 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - thefutureisoldgold3 has posted a new article entitled, Wolves Ratings v Birmingham City

07 Sep 2026 15:29:03
Interesting comment on AS Roma regarding Freidkins' control

Investment Style

The owners focus on long-term growth instead of quick fixes.

They put large amounts of money into the squad and facilities.

They try to fix old financial damage and lower bad wage bills.



The group also expanded its sports portfolio by agreeing to buy Everton, but stated that AS Roma remains central to their football goals.

So we are not important, really.

07 Sep 2026 15:49:08
Yeah, I put millions and millions of pounds into things that aren't really important as well. ?

07 Sep 2026 16:35:35
Because Roma came first. But I am impressed by NickB57's ability or anyone to gain such knowledge as Gospel.

07 Sep 2026 16:24:24
Negative Reg as usual.

07 Sep 2026 17:35:26
Roma spent over 124 million euros in summer. We spent just over 90 million euros. Roma have a 25-man squad. We have 19. Roma have 25/27 players out on loan, more than we have in our squad. Does it seem to suggest anything? Freidkins now looking to take investment in Everton, or, as some have said, sell us.

Seems to me we would be better off without them. Where would any revenue go if they did take in investment? Makes me wonder if they were only ever after the new ground.

07 Sep 2026 18:55:09
Separate clubs, with separate balance sheets, working under different financial restrictions (I assume the Italian financial rules differ to the Premier League rules anyway) .

One has been a regular in European competition and the other has been struggling against relegation.

The fact that both are owned by the same company/family is largely irrelevant.

07 Sep 2026 18:57:46
If you take some of the anger and emotions away and look at it logically.

They took over Roma 6 years ago after they were struggling financially and were in a real mess.

They are now back as a force again and as you said have a good size squad, plenty more out on loan and a more sustainable operation with little debt.

Now look at us.

Not been our owners for 2 years yet, the debt now manageable, the wage bill reduced, with players like Dacoure who was on 110k a week, and a squad improving in quality, all be it still needing more players. We were selling our best player every window and not getting any real quality in, but now with players like KDH, Rohl, George, Jack, Hayden and others, we are light years away from the 3 years before they came.



We spent 117m last summer, we've spent money this summer, but our problem really came from not selling players for two years and therefore we were waiting for someone to go so we could go back in the market.

They make mistakes like all clubs. They corrected the Armstrong one. Hopefully next summer they correct the lack of some players on some positions.

After saving us from extinction, I'll give them a bit of slack for now.

{Ed025's Note - good post that John..

07 Sep 2026 19:01:30
They did invest because of the new Ground that was the only attraction for anyone. Moshiri only received an initial £25 mill. Friedkins took on the debt. Couple of years, and the Stadium will start producing big sums.

07 Sep 2026 20:34:27
I don't think TFG are awful; they just appointed Kinnear, which I feel is a mistake.

07 Sep 2026 21:19:31
Great perspective, give BJU.

07 Sep 2026 22:05:21
Look at your original post, Nick, and then look at my response and tell me who is being negative hahaha unbelievable.

07 Sep 2026 22:08:50
As much as the end of this transfer window and the end of last season annoyed everyone. In the cold light of day we are miles away from where we were under the last 3 years of Moshiri's reign.

The stress levels of constantly worrying about point deductions, staying up, and even keeping the lights on have subsided for me.



Yes, it's Everton, and we all know we should have our own rollercoaster Alton Towers, but for at least a year now, I've been able to watch the game without that horrible knot in my stomach.

Things are looking up, but it's just slow progress. I do think we'll get there, you know!

Up The F****** Toffees!

08 Sep 2026 07:51:43
If they have that many players out on loan, how come we didn't pick a couple of them up?

07 Sep 2026 07:39:43
Think the changes made all the difference. Hackney is definitely Premiership ready, lad made a huge difference when he came on. Good result but could and should have been better.

07 Sep 2026 08:53:16
Some better ball play from Barry, I thought, mate, but he has to put that header away. We are going to be okay.

07 Sep 2026 09:29:13
Hackney looks like a great signing, came on and ran the game, partnered well with Jack and KDH. George was mustard, can beat a man both sides, really exciting. Barry, well Barry was Barry, needs to get that header on target, but you can see his movement is getting better and he's getting into scoring positions.

07 Sep 2026 09:30:58
Two poor goals given away, but that is going to happen, given our limitations in defence. Two cracking goals, and the team should gain a lot of confidence from this result.


My only concern, as I said, is with our defence. We have to tighten that up if we want to continue to improve. Hopefully we see a much better showing against Spurs than last season's effort.

07 Sep 2026 09:44:24
I think whilst there are definitely issues at FB defensively, and that was the main cause of the goals conceded yesterday - we also don't have quite the protection from midfield in front of them. Garner is definitely not 100% for sure.

However, I think the reverse of that is that overall we look miles better in midfield with the current set up, and I think I'd take that and put up with conceding a few more just to watch some better football.

07 Sep 2026 11:14:47
I would much rather just win 1-0 every week no matter how it comes. I certainly do not hold with the concede a few more just to watch better football mantra.

07 Sep 2026 16:57:34
I'm the opposite, dms. I like to see us playing attractive football and will accept if we are beaten by a better team. It still spoils my weekend, and of course I'd take a fluke 1-0 win when we have been battered and just got lucky, but I'd prefer a great team performance and good football any day of the week.

07 Sep 2026 19:10:38
Each to their own, but I cannot accept that. Oh, we got beat but we played attractive football. I played to win and didn't like it when we lost, but accepted because I knew we tried our best.

08 Sep 2026 08:19:20
At the match on Sunday we were all having a chat about Barry. He is getting better and his hold up play is getting there. However, the service to him in the box is very poor.

There was a tactical change by Moyes, though, with him on Sunday as the games in preseason and the league and cup, he was allowed to come across to the wings with Ili moving inside and swapping with him.

With Ili gone, Barry hasn't got the same player on the wing to do that with, although I think Dibbling would be a good player to help with that.

He looks really comfortable moving to the center and swapping with him. Although I feel Barry is happier coming across to the left rather than the right. He did do it a bit with Johnson on Sunday, but the one time he did, he played one of the weirdest crosses ever that went straight up in the air.

Barry, though, can only score with the right service. On Sunday he had that one header.