Everton banter 10

05 Jan 2026 15:14:16
Pace, we don't have any and when we come up against teams that do we get tonked. Moyes said we don't usually concede four at home, which is true it's normally three.
Have to beat Wolves now and it has to be a convincing performance, sit back and play at a slow static pace and Wolves will beat us.


Lastly can we please practice defending corners. How can a team score when the ball is played into our six yard box? that should be the keepers all day long, but he stays rooted on his line, not good enough.

05 Jan 2026 17:41:17
We play Armstrong he’s quick mate.

05 Jan 2026 14:49:50
Callum Wilson could be free now WH have signed 2 strikers.

{Ed025's Note - hes ok Dev but not a lone striker for me, the whole ethos and formation would have to change and i just cant see DM doing that, plus his age is against him..

05 Jan 2026 15:20:31
If you play as a lone striker he will just become another who will fail. This tactic does not work and didn't work for previous managers. It's about time we had a change especially when playing at home.

05 Jan 2026 16:34:22
He’s 33 can’t see us even looking at him mate.

05 Jan 2026 18:29:07
Dunno about that Moyes probably sees that as a perfect age.

05 Jan 2026 09:42:08
Without being the harbinger of doom (as I appreciate its a crappy, cold Monday in Jan) , but is anyone else worried about the Wolves match on Wednesday?

We’re iffy at home and they’ve just started to pick up points.

Sorry, but just wanted to see if any of you were in the same school of thought as me.

{Ed025's Note - dont be the prophet of doom Benny...but yes im worried as well mate..

05 Jan 2026 11:13:27
I've watched Wolves last 3 games Benny they break very quickly going forward which will be a worry for our slow back four.

05 Jan 2026 11:17:18
Im confident we always seem to bounce back after a poor performance like yesterday. I’m that confident I’ve put us in my last man standing only 4 left in it aswell ??.

05 Jan 2026 11:30:19
Well Wolves have let in 40 and scored 14 this season so the last thing Moyes should do is revert to a totally defensive team and go for a draw.
Use the defense we had verses Forest, no Keane, and have both Beto and Barry together up front. Even those two Bozo's should be able to find the net.

{Ed025's Note - i think playing 2 up top was a sign of desperation Mike, i cant see it ever being the norm mate and it will be one of either Millican or Nesbitt to be the long range lamppost for Wolves...leopards and spots and all that..

05 Jan 2026 12:10:34
They looked like they were still up for the fight against West Ham mate and seemed to have the desire. I watched that Mane v Liverpool and then again v United. What a young player he looks.

05 Jan 2026 12:30:15
If Mykolenko starts again after his latest displays, what message does it show. Aznou may not be ready but he cannot be any worse and will certainly offer more going forward.

If we could drop the CB's, that would be the correct decision as well.

Harrison Armstrong showed more in his short cameo than any of our midfielders. Jimmy can get a pass as he has been nothing short of phenomenal this season and he seemed to look a little bit leggy. I think we have to put him at RB as we simply have no one else to go there and we can't play Tarkowski and Kean at CB.

Pickford

Aznou
O'Brien
Tarks
Garner

Tim
Rohl

Grealish
Armstrong
Dibling

Beto or Barry.

05 Jan 2026 13:13:56
That’s about as good as we have at the moment mate, good shout.

05 Jan 2026 14:16:34
What’s the betting that Larsen fella scores.

05 Jan 2026 15:14:39
Jimmy needs to be played at rightback move jake to centreback Armstrong needs to start as does beto I'd play 442
Pickford
Jimmy tarky jake miko/ asnu
Tim Harrison rohl jack
Beto barry
Can't be any worse than that lineup v brentford.

05 Jan 2026 08:01:11
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05 Jan 2026 04:19:22
Yesterday just highlighted the same problems again.
Our centre-backs are too slow and make too many mistakes. When JB is back, him alongside O’Brien might be an improvement, but I still think we’ll need another CB if we’re serious. At the minute we get punished far too easily by pace and movement.
Full-backs are a massive issue. We need players who can actually defend properly and contribute going forward, offering width without throwing the shape out of balance.
Mykolenko loses possession far too often, his crossing is poor when he does get into a decent area, and technically he just isn’t good enough for this level.
On the right, we’re desperate. O’Brien isn’t a RB, and he offers nothing going forward. There was one moment where he left Dibling isolated against two players in the corner without offering any support at all — that simply isn’t good enough.


Tim isn’t a Premier League player. He gets bypassed too easily and doesn’t know how to dictate the tempo of a game.
McNeil was, yet again, ineffective — no real influence, no impact. There was no link between defence and midfield, which is killing us. We need a more dominant holding midfielder and a proper creative No.10 who can take responsibility and move us up the pitch.
I really hope Dibling comes good, because the talent is there, but he’s getting no help. If he had proper support behind him, along with Grealish on the other side, then Barry and/or Beto wouldn’t be so isolated up top.
Right now, we seriously lack any reliable, consistent attacking outlets, and everything feels disjointed. Until the balance improves — especially at full-back and in midfield — we’re going to keep seeing the same issues repeat themselves.

05 Jan 2026 12:17:22
Spot on with that post OS, other than the fact that it isn't even pace and movement that trouble us. Go back and watch the first goal. Keane has all the problem in front of him and decides to run across and lose sight of it - criminal defending.

Need to go and get Morten Frendrup to sit in front of the back 4. Bags of stamina, never stops harrying the opposition. 10 may be too difficult to find for a decent price in Jan. We need 2 fullbacks and the price won't change too much between the two windows, so we should try and bring Robinson home and then try for Sanchez, Doue, Preciado, Alebiosu or anyone, as anyone would be an upgrade on what we currently have.

If we get those 3 positions sorted, I genuinely think we will get Europe. It will flip the whole team on it's head and all of a sudden our forward players will reap the benefits of getting some decent flankers in.

05 Jan 2026 01:16:38
Moyes saved us from relegation last season, something for which, I am extremely grateful.
However, if we are to progress, and become a top six regular competitor, we must thank him, then seek an alternative who is in tune with the modern game.


We can have death by a thousand cut, or a swift clean break. Bed someone in now, to do the ground work for next season .

05 Jan 2026 07:22:41
How about Nuno, Frank or that young progressive manager at Celtic?

05 Jan 2026 08:39:06
Frank saved us? Look what happened. Dyche saved us? Look what happened. Moyes saved us? Anyone see a pattern forming here?

05 Jan 2026 08:55:43
Maybe our fans should be more realistic? Constant change hasn't been good for the club in the last decade and caused us to flirt with relegation far too many times. For the first time in years, we are in January and not looking over our shoulder at the bottom of the league. All this after having to bring in 9 players to integrate into the team/squad.

I think we should let him have time to build a proper squad rather than jump back into the unknown.

05 Jan 2026 09:27:23
So I get it, because we made the wrong choice of managers since moyes left us for man utd and they where, all crap, that means we now have to keep moyes here because we might make the same mistake again, so let's just keep the dinosaur and make no progress.

05 Jan 2026 09:54:02
So who are you going to replace him with? Any idea?

05 Jan 2026 10:12:18
Not at all, skylark. What i'm saying is that we have made progress under DM, especially in comparison to previous managers, whether those of you who hate him like it or not. With a couple of windows, the squad will vastly improve and then we can worry about the style of play.

So, you think Ancellotti was crap? Hard man to please eh.

05 Jan 2026 10:29:24
Ancellotti was / is a great manager but he also was the wrong choice as he was never going to stay so we just wasted time and money bringing him in , I just want this club to have a bit of ambition, man utd and Chelsea have both sacked there manager and are sitting above us, moyes just doesn't fill me with excitement.

05 Jan 2026 10:59:56
There was only one club he was going to leave for and, unfortunately, they came calling. That was the best appointment of the FM era without a shadow of a doubt.

I get your point about ambition but it takes time to get to that stage. Firstly, the building blocks have to be put into place. We lost 13 senior players last summer, some that were classed as first team players, which is basically starting from scratch. We also moved to a new home, of which we will see the benefits in future seasons, which has proven to be a hard task for the majority of teams that have done the same. It's about patience for us fans more than anything really.

The team we have at the moment will change over the next few windows and then we will see a better style of football. We can't expect too much right now as we are playing square pegs in round holes, yet again, in some positions and we have a fair few players who just aren't good enough. It will take money and, once again, patience from the fans. It's like we've been in transition for a decade!

I known the answer already but I will ask anyway. You always comment that you didn't want whatever manager we get, so, who would be your ideal replacement? Either for right now or next season? For all these 'crap' managers that we've had, who would excite you enough into becoming more positive?

05 Jan 2026 11:18:43
I will ask you the same question, who would you like besides moyes, it's not an easy question to answer but it's easier knowing who I don't want , , most teams are looking for the perfect manager to take them forward and win trophies and they are hard to find but my god the ones we have picked since moyes left have been shocking , frank, raffa, dyche, Sam, Ronald, have got to be some of the worst Dessissions this club has ever made.

05 Jan 2026 12:41:00
I'm not after a change of manager just yet mate. As I've alluded to above, I can see progress happening, it might not be rapid progress but things are definitely moving in the right direction. Just bolster this squad with more quality, improve the areas that need attention and I think we will see further progress over the next couple of windows.

I'd let DM continue to steady the ship for another season or two and then see where we are then.

05 Jan 2026 13:02:27
We can’t keep sacking managers mate because we loose a game, our backup midfield is echos of a past we will repeat again if not sensible, I agree with most our fullbacks hinder us more than help.

05 Jan 2026 14:51:32
Agree with blue potato. The table doesn't lie. We have made progress. As i have said on a few occasions enjoy the wins and take the losses with a pinch of salt, we will frustrate as we aren't the finished article.

05 Jan 2026 16:57:18
The job was to save us from an almost certain relegation under Dyche, and improve the squad in the summer. Whilst there are still many positions that need improving, Moyes has achieved both these things.

We’re a win off 5th place. Makes no sense to get rid now, there’s a case for changing in the summer and giving the long term manager the war chest. Iriola would be great.

04 Jan 2026 21:35:32
At least Mykolenko is keeping up his performances with consistency. Another game with 60+ touches and 18 occasions losing possession. That is simply incredulous for a fullback that barely gets into the opposition half.

If we (club/fans) are to be happy keeping him as our LB, then we are consequentially happy with being mediocre.

05 Jan 2026 08:42:58
I think the problem BN is supporters now are accepting mediocrity. When a lot of today’s supporters have never seen us win anything it’s not surprising I guess. Hits hard with an old boy like me.

04 Jan 2026 21:00:13
I thought Grealish had really bad game today - appreciate the assists but he gave the ball away loads and your just shouting at him to get it in the box early - especially in 2nd half with Beto and Barry in middle
To reliant on long ball too - Pickford passing accuracy was 58% - gave the ball away from the start but that’s because fullbacks and Keane not comfortable outlet.

Desperate for full backs - Obrien and Branthwaite in the middle and a striker


What anyone saw in Dibling last year at Southampton is beyond me.

Everton need a long hard look at the style of football we are playing and for me need a new manager / coach at end of season

I like Moyes but this is how it will always be with him in charge.

04 Jan 2026 21:32:23
Can you ignore the assists, Sobs? They were both great, and that’s what he’s in the team to do.

05 Jan 2026 14:31:44
He crossed it three times - x2 goals and one diving header from Barry which I’m not sure who ended up getting it on target - might have been a Brentford player.
He’s missing the other better players we have and seems to want to pull it back a lot rather than in box for Beto / Barry.
But imma big fan just thought yesterday h gave the ball away a lot and could have had a bit more impetus - but a lot more urgent things to sort in team

X2 full backs
Gana (age) and Garner (free transfer) may need replacing
Striker

Think we all expected season like this - I think we will be ok - just think we have to move on from cheering the big man up front and clattering tackles - want to see better football - starts from the back - ful backs and Branthwaite go a long way to sort that.

04 Jan 2026 20:14:21
Ed25.Do you have any indication, when we might see Branthwight return to, the team, ps have you any information how long Dusbury Hall will be out for?
Givern today's performance, the sooner the better.

{Ed025's Note - at least another couple of weeks for KDH AB, Jarrad is back on the grass training but it will be a while yet before we see him mate..

04 Jan 2026 21:18:12
Just hope we let him recover fully and don't rush him back. we ain't going down and will have these performances till we can improve the squad with a couple more transfer windows were hopefully we will add some quality to the positions we all know need improving.

04 Jan 2026 19:33:15
I know any mention of MoyesOut is very divisive, and the progress we've made from where we were 2 years ago to where we are now is genuinely impressive, but the football on the pitch is every bit as turgid as it has been for the last 10 years.

Can anyone think of a single Good performance we've put in this year? And I don't mean good as in 'we defended well and nicked a goal', like against Forrest or United - a performance in which we were actually the better team, strung together more than 3 short passes and Deserved the win?

Our league position is decent at the moment, no doubt, but in terms of the actual football, Every win has been either attritional, lucky, or an absolute indictment of the opposition, rather than any credit to us. Every single win.

{Ed025's Note - we actually battered Fulham Alex but i know what you mean, now im not defending the manager at all but once these players (mostly internationals) go over that white line its totally up to them to be able to pass a ball 5 yards or to be able to control a ball mate..

04 Jan 2026 20:14:45
With Jack, KDH and Ndiaye I think we look pretty good at times, but feels like that's the players more than the system.

What really frustrates me is the signings again. Rohl looks like he could be the worst business we have done in some time, and we have set a very high bar on that front. Dibling just doesn't look up for it - that's £65m potentially wasted.

04 Jan 2026 20:32:29
We stank the place out today, that’s a fact. I don’t believe it’s fair to say that all 8 victories have come off the back of a combination of luck and attrition though. A solid defence, is not something that happens by accident, it’s a result of hard work and organisation - something which was lacking today.

Tarks is not the player he was and O’Brien is not a right back. We improves an awful squad, and will do so again in the summer.