Everton banter 3

11 Jun 2024 11:38:47
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Curtis Jones

11 Jun 2024 00:31:55
Evening Ed's,

Hope you are well.

Have you any idea why we are not pursuing Ndidi, especially considering the likelihood of Onana leaving the club. Not saying he would choose us, mind, but surprises me that we aren't going after him.

He ticks a lot of boxes. Available on a free, good age, PL experience, defensively dominant. Has even added new strings to his bow this past season with the attacking elements of his game.

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - he suffers a lot of injuries, that is why he was still at Leicester in the first place. Teams are wary of him.}

11 Jun 2024 19:42:20
Injuries… he’d fit right in at Finch Farm’s medical room with Deli.

10 Jun 2024 22:03:25
Ed 02

Who looks in best position to buy Everton if you can't answer it that fine.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea who Moshiri may decide on. I can tell you, yet again, what would be best but none of it will happen overnight.}

10 Jun 2024 22:30:47
Ye that would be great ye I understand it going to take time hopefully not 7 months but who knows.

11 Jun 2024 03:41:47
To my untrained eye Bell and Downing seem to be in pole position. Two lifelong Evertonians backed by the Dell corporation would be fantastic.

Like everyone else though, I have no idea what Moshiri will do. If he has our best interests at heart then that consortium seems the best. who knows though, maybe Ed02 can get his crystal ball out.

{Ed002's Note - MSP with Bell and Downing strikes me as the best solution for lready having experience in Sports Investment.

11 Jun 2024 09:44:07
Time is the issue, finances are in a mess, debt is out of control. I am very worried about administration, I can’t see how we will avoid it.

10 Jun 2024 07:39:09
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Top 10 - All-Time International Teams

09 Jun 2024 18:07:08
Alan Hanson for me was one of the best pundits on TV and since he retired about ten years ago we have had nothing but puppets
Hope he pulls through.

{Ed025's Note - im a fan as well Skylark..

09 Jun 2024 18:42:39
Yep for sure good guy.

09 Jun 2024 19:31:44
Such terrible news. Top player. Top man.

09 Jun 2024 21:53:19
Always rated his opinion. Much better than today’s pundits on BBC. Hope he gets well soon.

10 Jun 2024 04:28:42
A true legend on the park and an honest pundit for decades. Prayers and best wishes.

10 Jun 2024 07:54:39
Agree, he pretty much re-invented what punditry was, and it's not been the same since he retired. ?? For a speedy recovery.

10 Jun 2024 08:32:32
He was my favourite after saint and greevsie.

09 Jun 2024 13:54:18
Being reported MSP wants a quick decision from Moshiri it could be a matter of days.

09 Jun 2024 12:24:59
Now I ask why so many bidders, it was 6 at the last count we were ages getting 777 on board and we all know how that went, I hope in my wildest dreams that whoever takes us over have Everton at heart and take us back up there with the top clubs, be itMSP, or anyone else, a new stadium a new owner what's not to get excited about i certainly am.

09 Jun 2024 13:02:46
Why so many bidders? The stadium. Think bidders were actually waiting to see if it ever got built.

09 Jun 2024 13:37:51
All the so called in the know, I been told, trusted, and inside info journalists say we are now an attractive proposition, we’ve had the stadium on the go with no set backs monies paid for ages etc so why the new interest.

09 Jun 2024 15:20:29
People like to see the building GB not a blueprint.

09 Jun 2024 15:41:36
I imagine as Ed002 alluded to, several of these bidders are probably vultures and won’t have the clubs best interest at heart.

Just hop whomever comes in is keen to clean up the financial mess, try and get us on an even footing and start running us properly.

09 Jun 2024 16:31:05
MSP seem to be the front runner.

09 Jun 2024 21:56:22
Whoever comes in has a lot to deal with so let’s hope they are up to the job.

09 Jun 2024 08:54:04
Can feel it in my boots, exciting time ahead for us at Everton, c'mon Ed025 all these investors can't be dodgy mate.

{Ed025's Note - its not that they are dodgy GB its finding one that fits, money is the greatest evil of all mate and you can bet your bottom dollar that someone will try and rip someone off or get shafted themselves...its just the way it works, it wont be an open and shut case of offering an amount and for it to be accepted im afraid, there will be a plethora of clauses and time lines, i would love it to be as easy as most seem to think it will...but i live in the real world...and this is Everton.. :)

09 Jun 2024 10:21:04
True words Ed. As they say it's the hope that kills ya. But I am with GB on this that we might just turn the corner have better more positive days ahead. Football as with life bud goes in cycles so let's just hope we align with the right owners and our great club starts it's road back to the top table.

{Ed025's Note - that would be great Mocker of course, im certainly more hopeful than at any time recently that we have a chance of getting the ownership sorted mate..

09 Jun 2024 11:37:53
MSP seems a good bet Ed mate, after the debacle of the 777 saga.

{Ed025's Note - im certainly glad to see the back of 777 GB, but lets not think that the new owners will be benefactors mate they will be looking to make money rather than give it away, but if we dont go into administration and get ourselves on a firm financial footing i will be delighted..

09 Jun 2024 17:17:32
Ed do premier league club owners actually make money though with the gigantic costs of running a club.

{Ed025's Note - they can do Shakey, look at the Glazers who have skimmed millions off united, and FSG the same, only they have reinvested their profit into the club and now it is worth an amazing amount, a well run club will thrive not only survive mate and thats why the money men are making moves..

09 Jun 2024 20:37:11
Well the Everton board made a pretty penny that’s for sure.

{Ed025's Note - didn,t they just Harlex..

09 Jun 2024 07:39:14
{Ed's Note - MrRangers87 has posted a new article entitled, Players Currently Linked With Glasgow Rangers

08 Jun 2024 21:53:50
Looking at ssn transfers live blog and apparently Lukaku has a £38m release clause that Chelsea want met and not another loan .
Now finances aside just as pony of debate would you have Lukaku back, simple yes or no, hypothetical scenario.

08 Jun 2024 23:31:50
He's not the same player that we had. Think we had his best years.

09 Jun 2024 00:13:15
Point of debate ?.

09 Jun 2024 00:59:59
Affirmative no.

09 Jun 2024 07:15:27
Looks like he’s off to the Saudi league mate.

09 Jun 2024 08:07:16
No thanks.

09 Jun 2024 13:20:27
It would be a no from me bigc especially at that amount they are asking. Best years behind him.

09 Jun 2024 15:21:40
Old board would have brought him back?.

09 Jun 2024 20:15:27
Lukaku or Beto?

{Ed025's Note - none of the above for me BR, one has lost it and the other one never had it to lose mate..

08 Jun 2024 17:49:47
Tough one to swallow lads but I’m all for selling our most valuable players to save the club from
Administration keep us afloat until the process of a new buyer can be confirmed through the dreaded long winded premier league approval. Few shrew frees a loans to replace them. Get through next season then into the new season a start again.

Seems the only way to build going forward with by what Ed is saying in regards to ffp a the debt.

So JB -70mil
Dcl -20/ 30mil you’d think
Onana - 40/ 50mil

Would this save us from going into administration Ed an allow us to restructure debt with a new owner coming in the next 4-6 months.

08 Jun 2024 18:55:41
Personally if I were buying the club then I would want a say in any players leaving the club. I don't believe we have to sell all three of the players mentioned. So the only question would be who weakens the team the least.
Remember the Prem have just given us 130m.

08 Jun 2024 18:58:46
I don’t reckon we have to sell J B mate, there’s others to go first, no one seems to know what the amount is we have to retrieve before the end of June.

08 Jun 2024 21:22:05
What we want/ think isn’t relevant lads I’m afraid. There’s a financial position we need to achieve by 30th June. None of us know exactly what this is, but we likely need to sell a couple to achieve it. Doesn’t matter who, it’ll depend on offers received. If we could sell Maupay, Onana and Keane, then happy days. But it’s a buyers market.

08 Jun 2024 22:04:28
Probably going to put myself in the cross hairs but I thought it was in the ball park of £48m? Think I read that a few months back.

08 Jun 2024 23:57:17
I thought a lot was the weekly wages which has just shrunk with the likes of Gomes and I assume Dele
Shift Maupay Keane and Holgate may be lucky to scrape £20m but would clear £200k per week from the wages
And then Onana could be the game changer.

09 Jun 2024 01:02:31
I agree with some of the above. I think out of branthwaite onana and dcl it will be onana that moves on.

09 Jun 2024 08:16:44
For a player who doeant start every week he is the obvious choice, Kean maybe needed as back up, maupey I hate I'd give him away, holgate well who is going to want him, Plymouth maybe, but what is going to be shocking is no one from the kids will be coming up as we've given most of them away from last season, we can only have so many loans, so with the ones who have left, the onea everyone wants gone, we could be looking at around 8 players, how do will then get players in with no money and 4 max loans if I'm correct, freebies, I mean if there good they won't come, and if there crap why do we want them, I think next season will be our hardest yet.

09 Jun 2024 10:44:45
There was an article in the ECHO a couple of days ago that said Everton need to alter the PSR profitability figures last year from £63 m to around $38m. Unfortunately that 63m included profits from the sale of Gordon of approx 40m so we need an improvement from £103m (63+40) to £38 or 65m

There's lot of other pluses and minuses such as no costs for paying off the old useless directors, increased revenue from our improved league position offset by the return of Ali and Gomes from loan etc etc

What is clear though however is that we need to sell some of our players to have a hope of meeting the PSR rules. We could flout them for the third year in a row but that would run the risk falling foul of further points deductions

We would make far more profit from selling Branthwaite who, apart from a very small sell on clause would be all profit. Onana comes with a higher sell on clause and we would have to offset any sales with the unused amortisation of his contract

Apart from PSR profitability our other major issue is that we are awash with debt. We owe MSP, R&M, 777 and Moshiri over £1.2 billion. On top of that the stadium isn't finished and we losing every month, adding to our debts to keep running

There's hope there's new buyers in the wind but nothing concrete and nothing immediate and at any point one of our debtors could tip us into administration so selling players just to pay the loan debt is a very real threat to us.