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02 Jul 2022 00:11:50
Eds, hope you are well. I know i posted a couple of weeks ago about the availability of Belotti and how i couldn't understand we weren't doing everything to snap him up. Especially given that he is a free.

I have just read an article that we are interested. Probably a nonsense article.

Please give me some good news. Any possibility we would look at him?

JMW1878!

{Ed002's Note - Andrea Belotti (S) of Torino is out of contract and may still provide a solution for Barcelona to add cover. As a Free Agent he provides a potentially viable addition for Spurs, Arsenal or Roma but I suspect the interest of Fiorentina could win out unless something were to happen with Milan. MIlan interest has seemingly gone, at least for now. Monaco provide a wildcard option which may come to fruition. Discount Toronto, Monza and Newcastle.}


 

 

27 Jun 2022 11:15:37
Eds, any interest in the rolls royce - Charles De Ketelaere from Brugge?

JMW1878!

{Ed002's Note - Huge amounts, but not from Everton.}


1.) 27 Jun 2022 16:04:42
Cheers Ed. I am living vicariously through other clubs in the knowledge that we will neve go for these types of players haha.

Thanks for the response.


 

 

25 Jun 2022 13:26:43
Afternoon Eds,

Belotti's contract has ran down at Torino now. Why on earth we are not going all out to get him is baffling.

Top quality striker available for nothing in our situation. The mind boggles.

Is there interest in the lad from anywhere?

JMW1878!

{Ed002's Note - Everton has no interest. His next move is pretty much agreed.}


1.) 25 Jun 2022 17:25:40
Cheers Ed. Where is he off to? Always wanted to see him try his game in the prem. Taylor made.

{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages.}


 

 

15 Jun 2022 19:36:19
Eds. Is there truth in the Simms to Hearts on loan?

I find it baffling for a club that is short in goals and strikers, to get rid of a player before the manager has been able to assess them in pre-season?

He has scored goals in both loan spells now, seems to be filling into his frame at 21 and will only improve physically. Why have a Rondon as the backup striker when you have a young and hungry lad wanting to prove himself.

Everton that .

JMW1878!

{Ed002's Note - Ellis Simms (S) Hearts would like another loan, else perhaps the Championship somewhere.}


1.) 15 Jun 2022 21:14:32
Don’t see the point in another loan to Scotland. The championship or keep him would be my plan.


2.) 15 Jun 2022 21:51:35
Keep him, surely he’s a better option than Rondon?


3.) 16 Jun 2022 06:03:12
Wasn’t Rondon on a year contract and is a free agent again this summer?


4.) 16 Jun 2022 07:29:38
I thought Rondon was on a 2yr deal so with us until June 2023?


5.) 16 Jun 2022 08:08:33
Is he better than a fit Rondon? I’m all for blooding youth players, but they can’t all be good enough to make it in the first team. If he’s playing, he keeps his value and we might get a few quid for him at some point.


6.) 16 Jun 2022 09:56:47
Well rondon scored 1 goal, so I think it's safe to take a chance on simms.


7.) 16 Jun 2022 14:00:17
Or use neither and get someone decent?


8.) 16 Jun 2022 19:54:57
I don't see "all" of them being played in the 1st team nor am i calling for it. It is a problem area for us but we don't have much flexibility in the market. We have had Gordon come through in a number of years. Pointless having an academy if you don't trust it from time to time.

How will we ever know the lad is good enough if he doesn't get a chance? He has delivered at every club he has been at, including ours when he put up phenomenal youth numbers.

My point is, why have Rondon as a backup striker when his career is clearly done and he won't have the same desire as a young lad trying to make his name in the game.

Get someone decent. We can't spend any money. Who do you suggest we get for a reasonable fee that is "decent"?


9.) 17 Jun 2022 17:29:50
Completely agree JMW. The fact he has done well at the youth set up and every loan means he deserves a chance. And considering how many games Rondon played and the actual goal he scored Simms really cannot be worse. definitely a better option.


10.) 17 Jun 2022 17:36:37
I’m not the Everton scout, mate. Not every player has to cost 40 million or be from our youth team. Who would be decent and cheap? I’d be guessing, but: Dennis, Batshuayi, Larin, Welbeck, Bale, Cheyshev, Belotti. Or our scouting team could do their job and scout.


 

 

13 Jun 2022 18:41:16
Kenyon consortium takeover. Paper talk or legs Eds?

JMW1878!

{Ed002's Note - Sort of. PK has backing to buy a lower tier Premier League side and he has been looking around. Moshiri will be open to a sale at the right price. So, perhaps. I assume this is now in the public domain for you to ask?}


1.) 13 Jun 2022 19:21:56
It's in The Telegraph Ed.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}


2.) 13 Jun 2022 19:35:54
Ed02 john Thornton is apparently worth 31b. Is he the type to invest or is this some sort of dodgy deal? I'm always skeptical with takeovers. Do you believe this would be the right step for us? Or are we heading into unknown territory? Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - You don't get it. I have no idea what Thornton is worth byt he won't be trowing hude amounts of Money at Everton. It is a potential investment.}


3.) 13 Jun 2022 19:43:39
Ed02 you're right I don't get it. that's why I asked you if you knew anything. I didn't think he was going to throw money at us, I just wanted to know his intentions. Does moshiri want out? What happens to the stadium? Is that affected by a takeover? Again thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - The stadium will be finished and it would mean the end of Moshiri.}


4.) 13 Jun 2022 19:56:48
Can't see how this can help us either way. We still have to live with ffp which means reducing costs and or increasing revenue. The only upside maybe that the club is better run.


5.) 13 Jun 2022 20:17:23
Would be the end for Bill if we get taken over I would imagine.


6.) 13 Jun 2022 20:38:28
Fingers crossed.


7.) 14 Jun 2022 00:23:55
Fingers crossed you don't remember what bill done for us no he seems the easy target to pick am in my 30s he's done brilliant by us honestly just an easy excuse to throw it on him jokes.


8.) 14 Jun 2022 00:37:13
fingers crossed for what honestly am sure you're not an evertonian what is crossed for he put 500 mill into club and yet i admit it has went backwords but people blame bill people blame mosheri honestly any evertonian who judges them be ashamed one man saved are club in kenkright the other invested yes i admit he has wasted that money but least he did had a bloody good go of it just scapegoats sick of it get behing lampard or p. off and find another team seen this site last few weeks wanting lampard out honestly wake up aprils fixures he got us 9 points out 12 united chelsea leicester an lpool when none of us expected 0 points including myself.


9.) 14 Jun 2022 07:10:47
I fail to understand why kenwright is still getting blamed. He's put money in, he supports the club, you would think he hates Everton the way some people moan about him. I really don't get it.


10.) 14 Jun 2022 07:44:05
Well at least things are never dull at our club.


11.) 14 Jun 2022 09:44:13
Ladies calm down. I didn't say anything about Bill. I'm actually one of the few BK fans on here. I was posting to the original theme of this thread. Always looking for a dust up some of you. "fingers crossed" for a sale was my simple intent. Now some of you calm down before you blow a gasket. I can't help when the Eds put up our posts. The anti Bill stuff wasn't there when I wrote my post.


12.) 14 Jun 2022 18:35:14
If I had half a Day to list everything wrong with Bill Kenwrights time at Everton, I simply would still not have enough time or space to do so on here.

Each to their own opinions, I will just respect and leave it at that.


13.) 15 Jun 2022 06:30:04
The posting boxes are rather small I guess…

If we sell, let’s hope the new lot can sort out our mess. If we don’t sell, let’s hope the current lot can sort out this mess.

The main thing is to stop the third party influences getting in the way of those paid to do their jobs. It’s like hiring a mechanic to work on your car then heading off to the garage every few months to get it seen you by others.


 

 

 

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29 Jun 2022 02:13:57
We are skint and will do all we can to try to keep Dom if Richy goes. A few of the Eds have mentioned we need/ are after a striker.

Alternative shout and could get hammered for posting this ? but i think Teemu Pukki would be a great backup to Dom.

The move would give him a chance to play in the Prem again so would make sense for him.

He is a decent goal scorer. Has just shy of 1 in 2 for Norwich. 36 in 106 for Finland.

He is old so i imagine it would be a small fee and would make a good stop-gap whilst we need to tend to other areas of the squad first.

JMW1878!

1.) 29 Jun 2022 06:35:37
I thought the same JMW this time last year. Only thing with this, for me, is he wouldn’t want to be playing second fiddle. Surely there is another Naismith type out there.


2.) 29 Jun 2022 07:35:07
Wouldn’t be the worst signing. Certainly knows where the goal is.


3.) 29 Jun 2022 09:21:44
So you want to sign a 32yr old striker? A player that will have no resale value
And one that’s only managed 11 goals per season?

Surely there’s better options out there? Dennis for one would be a better option.


4.) 29 Jun 2022 10:46:17
There could well be better options. They may be either too expensive or unwilling to come to us. We have to be looking at value for money in our current situation.


5.) 29 Jun 2022 11:47:28
And you think pukki would be value for money?

I know we’re in a mess but this is a ludicrous suggestion to sign pukki as a replacement for Richarlison as a back up to DCL.


6.) 29 Jun 2022 12:53:55
I don’t know how much this fictional signing has cost us so it’s hard to answer that question. For a small fee and reasonable wages, he could well be value for money.


7.) 29 Jun 2022 13:02:53
That is the thing BR2022-23, its whether he would want to come and do that but he is 32 and not sure who would be after him.

Not every player can have a resale value Dan. What do you expect us to do go and get a quality striker in and say "here you are fella, take a seat on the bench, you aren't getting in ahead of Dom" - not going to happen.

You say he only managed 11 goals a season. That is 6 more than any of our midfielders managed and 1 more than Richarlison who you say is a £100m + player ?. He also scored 1 more than Dennis. Struggling to see what your point is.

He will be manageable as he is older at 32 so will have some level of understanding that he won't be the starter so shouldn't cause disruptions across the dressing room. His movement is actually very good as a striker and has scored against the big teams in the Premier league for a very poor Norwich side. He can finish with either foot and seems to be fairly robust and rarely injured. We are skint and need reinforcements.

I never said he had resale value and i never said he would be a replacement for Richy. I clearly said backup for Dom and that he would be a stop-gap.

As JB said of course there are better options out there but it has to make sense across all avenues for them to come.

But by all means, let's go and buy Dennis who scored 1 goal less and will probably cost 10/ 15 million more.


8.) 29 Jun 2022 13:18:28
So if just as a back up to DCL then why not save the money and use any of the players already at the club? Rondon, Simms or Dobbin?

Why spend more money?

I’d suggest Dennis as a replacement for Richarlison and a rumoured £20m would be a good bit of business for someone proven in leave and will potentially have a resale value.


9.) 29 Jun 2022 14:07:23
Because we want a replacement that can score goals.


10.) 29 Jun 2022 14:20:27
I’ve lost track here JB.
Replacement for who?
JMW stated as a backup to DCL so not sure who pukki is being suggested as a replacement for?
He says not as a replacement for Richarlison so not sure when money is so tight, why we need to spend money for a backup to DCL as have Rondon, simms and Ellis.


11.) 29 Jun 2022 14:39:08
Great idea if we want to definitely secure relegation this coming season! We need to start buying younger players that have resale value in the future not hand out contracts to players heading for retirement. That's part of our problem with ffp at this minute in time and we need to get away from that if we want to progress as a club, without falling foul of the financial rules.


12.) 29 Jun 2022 14:41:43
I can see the sense in signing both! Dennis for 20 million would be a good fee. If we got pukki for say 2 million and low wages then that would make sense to me. We lack goals. Richarlison far from prolific so I'm not fussed if we cash in as long as no garbage is included and yes all things considered 50 to 60 million is fair. We are really bad centrally. Central defense is a priority as we surely can't keep holgate mina or Keane. After that I think the midfield is poor. Need someone who can break up play and get up and down but also missing so much creativity from an attacking midfielder.


13.) 29 Jun 2022 16:02:36
Because Gingerdan

Rondon - scored 1 goal in 20 mate.

Simms - I posted a few weeks ago that we should give him ago and didn't see the benefit in selling him before Frank can have a proper look pre-season. I feel he has scored anywhere he has played. He is a big lad and is a hungry goal scorer but by all accounts it will be another loan, possibly to a Championship side.

Dobbin - can't say he has had enough minutes at a decent level to see what he can do.

Why spend more money? There are many reasons but a few .

- Because we have huge holes in our team/ squad and if you want to fill them holes it tends to cost money.

- We nearly went down last season and by all accounts we stand to lose the player that kept us up and our top scorer.

- Every other team is spending money and strengthening.

- We have no goal scorers and goals help to win games.

As I said Pukki wouldn't be a replacement for Richy. We need to be very careful and clever who we get in to do that. Move Rondon on who offers nothing. I hear there is interest in Spain.

In Pukki there would be a potential goals off of a backup in case Dom gets injured again or coming off the bench if we need a goal.

I would rather him for a fair price than bank on Rondon to suddenly start finding goal scoring form. They are both the same age, yet one offers much more to the squad.

Personally I feel Dennis as a replacement for Richarlison is a huge gamble and I don't see him as proven in the slightest. I would rather have Saar from them if forced to choose.

Dennis has hit double figures once in his career and considering he has played a lot of those games in leagues players like Trossard and Brightons new signing Undav have hit 27 goals and 13 assists and he Dennis played there he hit the below.

Apps/ Goals:

Club Brugge - 4 years in Belgian Pro League.

30/ 7
26/ 7
20/ 5
9/ 0

Koln - 1 year in Bundesliga

9/ 0

The likes of Son, Haller had got consistent double figures year in year out before coming over here. 1 has been successful and imo is one of the most underrated players on the planet. The other cost West Ham 45 million and was carted off after a year.

So you ask me why spend more money but then at the same time you are willing to potentially throw away 20m so frivolously on Dennis haha. Pukki would cost a quarter of the fee and due to his age could get him on a short term contract.

Bluepotato I agree we do mate, but there are places that need attention before others in the squad for that.

However to be able to make a few smart additions to improve the squad shouldn't instantly at good fees shouldn't be missed. If they make sense and offer another dimension to the side get them in. Tarkowski is 30, yet he would comfortably be the best CB at the club, is by far the fittest and offers great defensive numbers. He has more leader qualities than probably any player in our side other than Yerry who is never fit. I feel its the same with Pukki. We don't have the money to spend on backup strikers because the rest of the side needs so much attention but he would offer double figures in terms of goals a season and wouldn't cost more than 5m. Makes perfect sense to me. He is a goal scorer and we lack them severely.


14.) 29 Jun 2022 16:33:19
Batshuayi would bee a decent acquisition as Ed 002 has said.


15.) 29 Jun 2022 16:54:39
Agree Blue-tit. Wanted him back in the day from Standard Liege but he went to Marseille.

Mad that he is still with Chelsea after 4 different loans. He had a decent first loan spell with Palace but then bagged 2 in 18 on his second stint.

How much would he cost?

28 so still has plenty in the tank. Physical attributes and played at a decent level.


16.) 29 Jun 2022 17:17:37
Personally JMW with money as tight as it is a back up to DCL would be the least of my priorities at the moment - however if we did move Rondon on then would use any money from that to try and get a backup in.

The defence and midfield are where we need to prioritise.

Tarkowski I think will be a brilliant addition, and would not be surprised if he’s made captain as he’s a real leader, something we’ve lacked for a long time.

Any money we do have should go on a defensive midfielder and a creative midfielder.

Hopefully if Gbamin stays fit and impresses in pre-season we may already have one of those areas sorted.

Happy to agree to disagree on the pukki v Dennis discussion, however not sure why you’d think pukki would be happy to leave Norwich where he’s the main man and revered to be a bench warmer for us?

{Ed025's Note - we would get approximately nothing for rondon dan. We would have to pay someone to take him. Gbamin is another waste of space mate and the sooner he goes the better..


17.) 29 Jun 2022 17:52:58
Nice to see you’re full of optimism Ed ?

Agree regards Rondon, be amazed if get a fee for him but you never know stranger things have happened - Rafa may get a new job and want him ?

Gbamin is a strange one, looked decent until we bought him, however seemed to have done well on loan and maybe just maybe he can do well for us.

{Ed025's Note - I’m fitter than. Rondon dan and would command the same fee. Gbamin is a waste of space mate who is always injured yet fit enough to get a drink driving ban. Get rid asap for me.
I would love to be optimistic but after 64 years of being an evertonian I know better.. ?


18.) 29 Jun 2022 18:20:49
32 to old move on.


19.) 29 Jun 2022 20:32:17
Agree Gingerdan other areas are more pressing for sure, I am just concerned that if Dom gets a knock again we are goosed.

Agree on Tarks, hopefully he can give that backline a kick up the jacksie.

Why i think Pukki would be happy to leave Norwich is because he has gone down to the championship for one and not for the first time.

Any professional worth their salt would trade a lower league for a higher one.

Another reason would be his agent has literally come out and said as much “Teemu has a desire to play as high as possible. ”

If he wanted to stay put i hardly reckon his agent would be stirring up for a move.


20.) 29 Jun 2022 22:36:52
I would Rather have a pukker pie up tops if we are considering 32 year olds then mise well shut down reserves an under 18s agree with dan there's simms and also dobbs there they just need game time hopefully this season they will.


21.) 29 Jun 2022 22:55:47
I hope we sort out the CB positions first then look at CM, RW and backup ST JMW. You’re right that without DCL we were found wanting most of the season. Rondon hasn’t worked out so any chance to sell and bring in someone who can nab a few goals is a must, especially if Richy goes. However, if we can sort out that defence, I’m convinced we will stay up.


22.) 30 Jun 2022 08:33:58
Personally I think pukki on a back up with reasonable fee and wages would be good business. Rondon is a waste of space and should never get anywhere near the bench nevermind the starting 11. Dom was injured a lot last season and we need a back up striker, no questions. I'd love Simms or Dobbin to get more games but with how much they played last year I just can't see it.

I'd rather them both go on loan to teams they will start for and get good experience. Simms been knocking on the door of the first team for a while now and has never been called on, Rondon used repeatedly over him so we have to question if he is even any good?


23.) 30 Jun 2022 14:00:55
Sorry Chris, but quite hard to play Simms ahead of Rondon with simms being on loan at hearts at the time.


24.) 01 Jul 2022 22:36:57
Simms went in loan to hearts in January to get game time because he wasn't getting picked over Rondon. Thanks for making my point Dan.


 

 

23 Jun 2022 21:16:24
Evening Eds,

Rumours have been circulating for a long time about Kean being involved with swap deals for PSG players etc.

How exactly would that work if they still owe us money for him?

JMW1878!

{Ed002's Note - It would be instead of the fee.}


1.) 23 Jun 2022 22:16:01
Sorry Ed but how would that work for us?

If we’ve loaned him to juventus and they want to do a swap deal for a player at psg they potentially both get what they want but what do we get?

We loaned him with a clause they need to buy him at end of 2 year period so if they swap him who pays us the fee that would be due at end of his loan?

{Ed002's Note - You would get players instead of the fee.}


2.) 23 Jun 2022 22:56:06
Everton wouldn't swap a player for him. Juventus have an obligation to buy him next season. They want to sell this season and pay us so they forfeit the loan amount for the 2nd year. It wouldn't help our P/ S. Maybe Juventus will swap a player with PSG but until they buy him they can't.
It's been a disaster as I predicted 12 months ago, he hit his ceiling before he joined us. Kean used us as a stepping stone but for him it's a slow stepping stone down from here as he hasn't got what it takes, talented he may be but he's just another mediocre player because he hasn't got the attitude and mentality to turn his talents into something great although he is young enough to adjust that attitude of he wants to.
Ironically his level is around ours and that's where he'll end up. Some average team or a minor champs league team as a fringe player.


3.) 23 Jun 2022 23:15:58
Thanks Ed. So if we are getting players instead of a fee could an example be they would say swap Kean for Parades and then they would swap a player from their roster to us for giving them kean e. g. Pellegrini?

Many thanks for the response.

{Ed002's Note - As an example.}


4.) 24 Jun 2022 01:10:14
Interesting, thanks for confirming Ed.

The only player i could see them giving us is Pellegrini. McKennie and Rabiot wouldn't come near us. Knowing us it will end up being a 34 year old Cuadrado.


5.) 24 Jun 2022 11:31:20
I honestly don’t get why we’d want to do that - surely we’d want the cash for Kean so we can use it to buy a player or players we actually want?


6.) 24 Jun 2022 17:51:09
Probably juve just trying to do what they can to avoid paying a fee Dan. But I do agree we'd be better off with the cash.


 

 

17 Jan 2022 21:45:18
Would Everton appeal to Kovac? A chance to manage in the Prem or is the chalice to poisoned Eds?

JMW1878!

{Ed025's Note - hes the best available imo JMW, managed some top teams and head and shoulders above anyone else mentioned mate..


1.) 17 Jan 2022 22:08:41
Hes my number one aswell and he's available depending if he's interested.

{Ed025's Note - or if the pot herbs we have at the top are even considering him reg..


2.) 17 Jan 2022 22:58:08
Looks the solid pick from all those mentioned. You’d hope he’d be on the list.


 

 

28 Aug 2021 20:09:15
Eds, is this link to Diaz legit? I have seen 25m but we can't spend any money.

Does this mean we are planning for Richarlison to leave perhaps?

Townsend, Gray, Iwobi, Richarlison and now adding a £25 million winger in.

I would rather us spend it on a solid rb and a striker or creative midfielder. Will give us some plan b's and c's if the favored game plan isn't working.

Not sure Dias will add any new dimensions to what we have tbh but then again i have only seen him play a couple of times against City.

Cheers Gents.

JMW1878!

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation.}


 

 

24 Aug 2021 00:20:11
What is the latest with Mr Belotti at Torino Gents?

He is in the final year of his contract. Do you know what type of money Torino would be looking at to sell?

He has always been a player i've hoped we would sign.

JMW1878!

{Ed002's Note - Wrong page - this is the Everton page.}


1.) 24 Aug 2021 13:40:51
I think he is asking as there was a report last night that we were viewing him as an alternative to Correa
But then we are being linked to every player right now.

{Ed002's Note - Was this someone teasing the Everton fans on Twitter again?}


2.) 24 Aug 2021 13:55:37
Most likely, lot of that right now.


3.) 24 Aug 2021 14:55:19
We've been linked with nearly every player in every league since Moshiri arrived! Even with our limited budget for this transfer window, we're still reportedly after certain players that would command 30m+ fees. The entire internet is teasing us blues, ed002!


4.) 24 Aug 2021 16:08:14
But then hardly a whisper on Transfer Centre on Sky about us 🤦🏻‍♂️.


 

 

 

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30 Jun 2022 13:13:21
Getting 60m (with the add-ons) for Richarlison is a great price. He is nowhere near as good a player as some people think.

He is effective and works very hard, which i cannot knock him for. Technically, he is ok but nowhere near the level some people make out. If i was a club in this window I would much rather pay the same money and get Raphina. He may not have the same work rate as Richy but that isn't to say he is lazy by any stretch. Technically though he is far superior.

As for replacing Richy, i really do not understand this obsession with Dennis. All we go on about is how poor our recruitment has been and this stinks of the same. "Oh he will do".

Dennis has hit double figures once in his career! Bear in mind he has played some of his seasons in leagues where the likes of our very own Onyekuru blasted numbers in the 20's.

Apps/ Goals:

Club Brugge - 4 years in Belgian Pro League.

30/ 7
26/ 7
20/ 5
9/ 0

Koln - 1 year in Bundesliga

9/ 0

Hardly fills you with confidence that he is going to deliver. At 20/ 25m we would be better served looking elsewhere.

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28 Jun 2022 21:23:11
TomTom not sure about the Winks one as we are Everton after all. Gordon is going nowhere though mate, at least not in the near future. He has already said he is a home bird and loves Liverpool. Back when there was interest from Bayern he has come out and said he never considered it.

Now he is starting for the team he has grown up supporting and has a manager that trusts him in Frank, he won't be leaving to go to a team that will give him game time in the last 5 minutes of premier league games or the odd cup game. Makes no sense for his career.

By all accounts Spurs want Richy, Gordon, Godfrey and Pickford. Bit weird a champions league side wanting to take 4 starters from a team that shaved relegation.

As Ed said mate, take no notice.

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27 Jun 2022 16:04:42
Cheers Ed. I am living vicariously through other clubs in the knowledge that we will neve go for these types of players haha.

Thanks for the response.

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25 Jun 2022 17:25:40
Cheers Ed. Where is he off to? Always wanted to see him try his game in the prem. Taylor made.

JMW1878!

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23 Jun 2022 18:33:54
He has been in the premier league long enough to know how good he is or can be. I never bought into the hype when he first started playing under Poch, the same way i didn't/ haven't with the other lad they have, Skipp. Another example of people hyping a young player up because he is young and English - much like Davies for us.

I am not asking for superstars by any means. Winks is 5ft 10 at a push, has no considerable physical attributes that i can think of and that is exactly what we are crying out for in the middle. He is hardly going to cause teams issues with his crab-like football. His passing stats are inflated for this very reason. Playing meaningless sideways football with not intent whatsoever.

If he signs, just like any player i will get behind him. Some fans are of the opinion that he isn't good enough and they are entitled to that opinion.

You say we aren't an attractive proposition but we are still a Premier league football club. Look at the likes of Bissouma to Brighton, Tielemans to Leicester, Raphina to Leeds, Guimaraes to Newcastle, Cornet to Burnley, Willock to Newcastle. All left bigger clubs to move to smaller ones and hardly prime destinations to live.

If your scouting team is good enough you can get decent buys in. They don't need to be superstars.

Again, for me, Winks just doesn't fit the type of player we should be going for, especially when we have the spending constraints atm, that's all mate.

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01 Jul 2022 10:31:56
Agree with Bluetoff. We need a guarantee of output, in terms of goals/ assists and general creativity. We need to look in the European markets at players in teams who don't have the sway of europe to replace Richy imo.

Probably no chance of getting this guy but in a player in the form of a Berardi would be a great replacement.

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29 Jun 2022 20:32:17
Agree Gingerdan other areas are more pressing for sure, I am just concerned that if Dom gets a knock again we are goosed.

Agree on Tarks, hopefully he can give that backline a kick up the jacksie.

Why i think Pukki would be happy to leave Norwich is because he has gone down to the championship for one and not for the first time.

Any professional worth their salt would trade a lower league for a higher one.

Another reason would be his agent has literally come out and said as much “Teemu has a desire to play as high as possible. ”

If he wanted to stay put i hardly reckon his agent would be stirring up for a move.

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29 Jun 2022 16:54:39
Agree Blue-tit. Wanted him back in the day from Standard Liege but he went to Marseille.

Mad that he is still with Chelsea after 4 different loans. He had a decent first loan spell with Palace but then bagged 2 in 18 on his second stint.

How much would he cost?

28 so still has plenty in the tank. Physical attributes and played at a decent level.

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29 Jun 2022 16:02:36
Because Gingerdan

Rondon - scored 1 goal in 20 mate.

Simms - I posted a few weeks ago that we should give him ago and didn't see the benefit in selling him before Frank can have a proper look pre-season. I feel he has scored anywhere he has played. He is a big lad and is a hungry goal scorer but by all accounts it will be another loan, possibly to a Championship side.

Dobbin - can't say he has had enough minutes at a decent level to see what he can do.

Why spend more money? There are many reasons but a few .

- Because we have huge holes in our team/ squad and if you want to fill them holes it tends to cost money.

- We nearly went down last season and by all accounts we stand to lose the player that kept us up and our top scorer.

- Every other team is spending money and strengthening.

- We have no goal scorers and goals help to win games.

As I said Pukki wouldn't be a replacement for Richy. We need to be very careful and clever who we get in to do that. Move Rondon on who offers nothing. I hear there is interest in Spain.

In Pukki there would be a potential goals off of a backup in case Dom gets injured again or coming off the bench if we need a goal.

I would rather him for a fair price than bank on Rondon to suddenly start finding goal scoring form. They are both the same age, yet one offers much more to the squad.

Personally I feel Dennis as a replacement for Richarlison is a huge gamble and I don't see him as proven in the slightest. I would rather have Saar from them if forced to choose.

Dennis has hit double figures once in his career and considering he has played a lot of those games in leagues players like Trossard and Brightons new signing Undav have hit 27 goals and 13 assists and he Dennis played there he hit the below.

Apps/ Goals:

Club Brugge - 4 years in Belgian Pro League.

30/ 7
26/ 7
20/ 5
9/ 0

Koln - 1 year in Bundesliga

9/ 0

The likes of Son, Haller had got consistent double figures year in year out before coming over here. 1 has been successful and imo is one of the most underrated players on the planet. The other cost West Ham 45 million and was carted off after a year.

So you ask me why spend more money but then at the same time you are willing to potentially throw away 20m so frivolously on Dennis haha. Pukki would cost a quarter of the fee and due to his age could get him on a short term contract.

Bluepotato I agree we do mate, but there are places that need attention before others in the squad for that.

However to be able to make a few smart additions to improve the squad shouldn't instantly at good fees shouldn't be missed. If they make sense and offer another dimension to the side get them in. Tarkowski is 30, yet he would comfortably be the best CB at the club, is by far the fittest and offers great defensive numbers. He has more leader qualities than probably any player in our side other than Yerry who is never fit. I feel its the same with Pukki. We don't have the money to spend on backup strikers because the rest of the side needs so much attention but he would offer double figures in terms of goals a season and wouldn't cost more than 5m. Makes perfect sense to me. He is a goal scorer and we lack them severely.

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29 Jun 2022 13:02:53
That is the thing BR2022-23, its whether he would want to come and do that but he is 32 and not sure who would be after him.

Not every player can have a resale value Dan. What do you expect us to do go and get a quality striker in and say "here you are fella, take a seat on the bench, you aren't getting in ahead of Dom" - not going to happen.

You say he only managed 11 goals a season. That is 6 more than any of our midfielders managed and 1 more than Richarlison who you say is a £100m + player ?. He also scored 1 more than Dennis. Struggling to see what your point is.

He will be manageable as he is older at 32 so will have some level of understanding that he won't be the starter so shouldn't cause disruptions across the dressing room. His movement is actually very good as a striker and has scored against the big teams in the Premier league for a very poor Norwich side. He can finish with either foot and seems to be fairly robust and rarely injured. We are skint and need reinforcements.

I never said he had resale value and i never said he would be a replacement for Richy. I clearly said backup for Dom and that he would be a stop-gap.

As JB said of course there are better options out there but it has to make sense across all avenues for them to come.

But by all means, let's go and buy Dennis who scored 1 goal less and will probably cost 10/ 15 million more.

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