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07 Feb 2025 12:56:52
Hi edd 25. Do you think SD will do a good job at United, do you think he will save them from relegation?
{Ed025's Note - well he cant do much worse than their recent spate of managers AB, but they would certainly be more boring to watch mate..
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04 Feb 2025 10:50:33
Think Thelwell has done his job in helping balance the books. But like Dyche maybe he has reached his limit, and so at the end of this season it would be a good time to say thanks and adios.
Bring in a new DOF, one that Moyes can work with. Because that is the key, both have to have the same vision for the club.
Who knows if Thelwell did have players lined up to sign, but they were players Moyes deemed not good enough? If that was the case then that's a red flag right there.
Time will tell I guess.
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04 Feb 2025 12:42:45
Can someone please explain to me why Thelwell is so disapproved? As far as I can tell from what i've seen and read over the past few years, its the utilisation of the players he's brought in that's been the problem, not the recruitment itself? Am I under a hypnotic illusion that I think he's actually not done that bad a job?
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04 Feb 2025 12:53:02
Probably a good time for a change with bringing in the new era, there will be talk of Dan Ashworth as a contender to replace him as he’s available
And after their chat before the Brighton game and his history with Moyes it’s likely David Weir will be linked.
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04 Feb 2025 13:20:55
I'm not sure how anyone can say weather there'll has or hasn't done his job, he probably had a list of players dyche wanted and then Moyes arrives and will have his own player he wants , personally 1 player in is 1 more than I thought,
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04 Feb 2025 13:23:10
I will be surprised if Thelwell is given a contract extension BB. It is more likely that the new owners will want there own man in. The big question is "when will the change be made"? Better for the club if it is now so the new person can work with Moyes to get ready for the big rebuild in the summer.
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04 Feb 2025 15:06:41
I don’t get the hate for Thelwell - personally feel he’s done well given the circumstances around the club, psr, managers, meddling owner.
He hasn’t got all his deals right, but if he’s as bad as some are making out then how are his signings playing so well for us since Moyes took over?
Lindstrom, Gueye, Tarkowski, Beto, O’Brien, Ndiaye, Garner all signed by him and all played well the other day.
He also signed Mangala, McNeil and Young who have all performed well for us.
Wouldn’t surprise me if he is given a new contract, particularly if he develops a good working relationship with Moyes.
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04 Feb 2025 15:09:50
I am of the same mindset BlueMike, I won’t pretend to know all the ins and outs of what Thelwell’s job is but I would imagine now the window is shut a big part is identifying targets for the next window and beyond and ensuring the scouting network are supplying the updates and briefs
And also working on contract renewals for players we want to keep
So getting a new man in or at least identifying one would be key right now so we are not playing catch up in the summer when we need the rebuild and a good preseason to bed players in.
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04 Feb 2025 15:28:02
Agree BM, but think they might leave it a little while yet. I mean why pay the guy off when his contract runs out in the summer. They could still line someone up now and plan for the new season.
Skirbs, he resigned Harrison that's enough.
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04 Feb 2025 16:53:09
Dan it's not hate mate. Don't know why people think if you are not happy with someone then you hate them.
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04 Feb 2025 16:56:29
Well I am not one of the ones who hate Thelwell, I just don't really know if we could have done better with all of the money spent or who (as BB states) made the decision for example to take Harrison on for another season. Regardless his contract is up at the end of the season so either he should be given an extension or if he is to go then it should be soon to give the new guy plenty of time to work with Moyes on the squad for next season.
What I would like to see as I have said previously, is for a full review of our scouting setup and for it to be improved. I don't really see too many youngsters (Armstrong aside) coming through the ranks and that has to be a big part of any future business model.
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04 Feb 2025 17:43:06
BB - Agree if you don’t like something it’s not necessary that you hate it. My comment regards hate towards him was mainly to do with the posts on X (Twitter) where he’s getting pelters and clearly hate from quite a few accounts. In here it’s mainly ambivalence towards him.
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04 Feb 2025 20:18:47
Get KT out the club, no compensation! And we will free up funds in the summer. It’s simples.
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04 Feb 2025 21:06:03
Nobody deserves hate or abuse on any form of social media GD
I feel he has done well with one arm tied behind his back and I do feel he has improved the team but I do think it is time to change, maybe it’s a little unfair on him but it’s just my opinion.
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04 Feb 2025 21:07:32
It’s difficult to know exactly what Thelwell does. We’ve had some good signings recently and he’s been dealing with offloading players on high wages that were not his doing.
I would have liked us to not resign Harrison and Young but to find other players who fit the bill of being hungry and upcoming. The thing that worries me is how we go about our business and why other teams seem to find hidden gems and we struggle to. Looking for after the days we found Cahill, Coleman and the like. If Thelwell has unearthed a gem in Alcaraz then I’ll happily eat my hat but we often seem inept at buying in players.
That’s my take on it. Are there better people at the job or there and available in the summer? If so, should we look to upgrade?
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05 Feb 2025 02:40:17
Ndieye obrien.
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05 Feb 2025 08:04:49
I think I owe Thelwell an apology, he has had his hands tied and hss got us out of a mess left by previous employees so hats off to him, but I can't forgive him for Mopee Maupay.
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05 Feb 2025 08:22:55
If people don't fully understand the PSR then how can anyone have an informed knowledge (not opinion) of what the DOF remit and budgets he's had to work are, then how can anyone judge if KT has done a good or not so good job? Every club buys a player or more who doesn't hit the mark. I think he's probably had the hardest DOF job in Europe for the duration. Think he's done lots of unflattering donkey work that's helped us massively. Not sure you can slate someone when you have little to no idea if their job. I'd wager he's worked his socks off and nobody will really ever know. It seems he'll run his deal down and leave otherwise surely he'd already have signed up an extension. I aim zero negativity at KT. It's been proven in 5 minutes a manager with some modicum of ambition Vs someone who's absolutely fearful of the job, can turn under achievement into relative success and make flops into satisfactory players. This is FM and a raft or poor managers fault we are where we are/ were.
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05 Feb 2025 12:44:18
Look FBS, nobody at Everton has done a good job, look at where we are in the table, until Moyes can in we had three wins. Everyone is to blame, the owner, board, DOF, manager and players. The big question is how are we going to move forward, we have a new owner, a new stadium and a new manager, so can Moyes and Thelwell work together to give us a better squad, if so give Thelwell an extension to his contract, if not get in someone who can work with Moyes. I really believe this will be Moyes choice.
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05 Feb 2025 16:31:47
I'm with fbs. Psr has improved massively under thelwell. Harrison and young were free transfers, might have been a case of them or nothing. The team has already shown in 4 games it's way better than dyche could get out of them. Re transfers maybe thelwell didn't bring many in from abroad as dyche wanted prem experience. Just look at O'brien since he left. I do think however, thelwell either needs to be given a new contract or come out and say he will leave at the end of the season.
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05 Feb 2025 20:55:15
He's had to deal with a rather poor legacy of players on excessive wages. The only way to get rid of them was to let the contracts run down because they were average players on really high wages.
He brought players in on lower wages and has made big money some and sold good player due to PSR for good money as well.
Add to it the absent owner, change in managers and a stadium taking funds away from the kitty, he's done a remarkable job.
However, I do think planning and preparation for the January windows have been poor and again the right side never really being tackled and upgraded.
The other thing that none of us will really know is how good is his contacts book is. If the ambition is there to start looking at players of a higher calibre, is he able to do these deals. This will have a big impact on whether they choose us or even sepak to us.
I do like the fella though and his dad's a blue. We'll see what happens in the summer.
One final thing though, this guy doesn't deserve any hate whatsoever. He, like a lot of people at the club have tried to keep us going in such horrendous circumstances. let's give the guy a break.
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05 Feb 2025 21:45:12
This is possibly one. of the best threads on this site for some time.
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05 Feb 2025 22:56:57
Has KT done a good job or not who knows there have been some very good signings and some very poor signings has been responsible for them all or only some? We know that the owner and some of the previous managers have hampered Brands has KT had similar problems? On balance in my opinion he has done an okay job and if he was to get a new contract then that would be fine by me. Its up to the owners anyway so not matter what we think they will make the decision and that will be that.
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06 Feb 2025 17:07:57
I have read some Utter junk on this thread, please explain why you want him out, not rubbish you've read on some click bait or what your grannies half sister s mum told them, I can't see what you think anyone could of done in the circumstances, most of you can only come up with Harrison is that it, you don't think that the next man in the hot seat won't get a couple transfers wrong, your living in a dream world, Moyes has shown the players he's brought in are good enough . don't forget we had no money, so no big time Charlie was ever going to walk threw the door and help us climb the league.
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04 Feb 2025 10:41:43
I now live in the Derbyshire Dales having left Liverpool some thirty odd years ago. All my neighbours are Derby fanatics, so i am already getting bombarded with phone calls as to who this Harrison Armstrong kid is. I have simply said they will love him.
I have been to a few Derby games and to be fair the atmosphere is superb. Might attend a few more now one of our own is playing.
Derby are very similar to us in a way. Poor management from the top, League crapping on them at every opportunity and struggling at the wrong end of the table.
In fact if I was going looking to buy a football club then they would be near the top of my list. New modern ground, a great history and very loyal fans.
Come on Harrison!
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04 Feb 2025 12:40:36
Been to Pride Park a few times and iv always found it impressive.
From what iv seen of Armstrong, he should excel in the championship.
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04 Feb 2025 09:46:02
Still possible we could get a free agent in. Maybe Wiilian, saw he was at the Chelsea game last night.
Either way things a lot more positive and optimistic.
BIG summer incoming 💪💯🙏💙.
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04 Feb 2025 11:08:25
He is going back to Fulham mate.
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04 Feb 2025 11:42:41
Ah right. Didn't realise that BN. Cheers 👍.
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04 Feb 2025 12:01:46
Aye. Shame really mate, I think he could do a job for us to see the season out.
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03 Feb 2025 23:20:45
Deal sheet apparently in for Alcaraz.
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04 Feb 2025 00:18:26
Done picture submitted to sightings.
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04 Feb 2025 00:26:52
Signed, sealed and delivered.
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03 Feb 2025 22:13:57
Alcaraz not over the line, but surely we wouldn't have let Armstrong go out on loan if it wasn't happening.
Happy enough if he is the only incoming if it's true Broja back by early March. Can't afford to waste money on panic buys anymore.
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03 Feb 2025 23:54:47
Not sure if we have actually signed anyone. Alcaraz still not done evidently, we have an extension until 1pm to get his signature done it's reported.
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04 Feb 2025 00:03:10
It has taken 3 daysand. still not done he should be sacked. tells everyone and anybody. who were going for. instead of on the quiet like other clubs amatuer director of. football no wonder moyes won't work with. him too timid while making deals and gets bullied. in. negotiations.
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03 Feb 2025 20:39:37
Last minute loan deal possible b4 11pm. negotiations ongoing.
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03 Feb 2025 20:49:50
Has everyone gone home at Finch Farm. Got to be honest if Alcaraz gets done I'm still a little disappointed with just 1 x player in this window. We needed at least 2 or 3 I felt.
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03 Feb 2025 20:53:01
Are you Alan Myers?
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03 Feb 2025 20:58:12
I'm gutted.
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03 Feb 2025 21:07:45
As has been said before January is a very difficult time to recruit players unless you are willing to pay over-te-odds which thankfully we are not prepared to do. Having said that I am sure that the owner and Moyes will have a look at our scouting team and Thelwell himself. If we have any spare cash between now and the summer improving and expanding the scouting team is money well spent.
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03 Feb 2025 21:15:30
It's poor BM we are desperate for pace, I'm already looking forward to the summer rebuild we need a lot of new players, sadly it seems Thelwell only knows 4 players so he will be replaced is my guess. Como have managed to get 100 players in this transfer window and there are bargains still out there. Leaving it till the last day and hope to get something is ridiculous.
{Ed025's Note - we deffo need an upgrade on Thelwell imo Dev..
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03 Feb 2025 21:21:20
One good thing that might come out of this window is that it’s lack of activity might seal Thelwells fate!
{Ed025's Note - lets hope so Elvis..
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03 Feb 2025 21:23:00
I think the recent run of wins has rid of the relegation risk and lessened the need to panic buy. Wait for the right options at the right price. Means more money for summer.
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03 Feb 2025 21:30:03
The prices will still be hiked, other clubs will know that we have more income to spend so that's not an excuse.
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03 Feb 2025 21:39:33
Cookie isn't offering an excuse BD, he's just being factual. January is a hard month to buy players, hasn't been a great deal of movement between Premier league clubs really and most have left it until today.
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03 Feb 2025 21:56:14
Exactly BP why buy Tosun when it won't help a lot in current situation save money for Gyokeros in the summer (maybe touch ambitious but get the idea)
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03 Feb 2025 22:09:54
Ideally, you’d want loans to tide us over until summer but we’re in the position of Broja being injured and yet to return to Chelsea, Mangala who is injured and yet to return to France and Harrison who was a waste of a loan space and should never have been signed again who won’t go back to Leeds as they have no reason to call him back or have him back due to his wages.
How will the Argentinian lad become another loan is so far not understandable to me unless one of those three go.
My money is on the lights have been turned off at Finch Farm and Thelwell will be out the door in Summer. Right, off to the bookies….
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03 Feb 2025 20:18:57
Reckon we're done. ALCARAZ. But No striker unfortunately ☹️.
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03 Feb 2025 18:53:43
Reports saying a £15 million bid has just been rejected for Fellows.
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03 Feb 2025 19:14:33
I did think 10 was a little low GB. Think 15 is a decent offer though mate.
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03 Feb 2025 19:21:13
Yep sure does, now reading we are interested Arthur Cabrell from Benfica a 26 yr old Striker.
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03 Feb 2025 18:48:42
Fellows not signing I'm afraid, sorry to be the party pooper, attempts still being made at the last minute though for a striker.
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03 Feb 2025 18:45:49
Well ed looks like nothing happening. No late nights for us Everton fans.
{Ed025's Note - i was not expecting much to be honest Bretto, the feeling seems to be that we have enough to survive and will keep our powder dry until the summer mate..
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03 Feb 2025 19:21:19
I think we could done with couple as our squad so thin hopefully some under 23s can step up if needed.
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