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08 Aug 2020 14:58:34
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07 Aug 2020 10:44:05
Another Barcelona injury prone player being linked, Rafinha (Rafael Alcântara) buyout clause of 14.5m, even at that price I think a big risk if true.

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07 Aug 2020 18:39:31
So pessimistic. Yes massive injury problems but his price definitely reflects that. This is a player who is legitimately good enough to play for Barca, rather than bought to pad out the squad. Even if he was only fit for say a third of the season, he would add something that no other player we could attract ever would.
Ideally he can overcome the injuries but 14 million is absolutely worth a punt!

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07 Aug 2020 19:13:07
Worcester - Since 2015/ 16 season he’s missed close to 150 games due to injury!
That’s more than Delph!
As good as he may be wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole.
We’ve got enough crocks in the squad we don’t need adding to it.
Why would you be happy to spend £14mil on him if he only plays a third of the games? He may recover from his injuries sure, but also he may have an injury that rules him out for the season!
Money is allegedly tight - surely that money would be better invested elsewhere.
Glad you’re not in charge of recruitment 😉.

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07 Aug 2020 19:20:52
Too right Woburn mate, too good to miss probably better than anything we have at present, no brainier for me.

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07 Aug 2020 20:04:54
What a surprise GingerDan.
Quote all the missed games you want but put it into context! - exceptionally serious injury, and has come back to still play 29 games last term. Did Delph manage that? The guy looks to be over the worst and if we got 29 games a season with someone of that calibre then the team improvement would be huge!

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07 Aug 2020 20:22:50
If he's good enough for Carlo he's good enough for me.

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07 Aug 2020 20:23:12
Come on Worcester you had a right go at me for not being happy with taking a loan without an option to buy in it.

Not sure why you’re getting grumpy now I’ve questioned purchasing an injury prone player.

We’ve done that so many times before and it’s not worked out - as class as Rafinha May be it’s not worth the risk.

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07 Aug 2020 20:44:48
ASnyone can get an injury Gbamin case in point. My concern would be a player with a bad injury record moving to the prem would be a red flag. Also its not a just a £14m punt its a fee plus wages. Sandro was a £9m punt with £120k per week and look how that worked out.

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07 Aug 2020 21:25:41
We had the money once to spend wisely with minimal risk and blew it massively. That means now the only way forward is through some canny dealing and some risk taking.

To be honest some of our best business has been when we've been forced to be canny, so I for one look forward to what happens.

If we can get Rafinha in for 15m I think it's worth the gamble. At least the gamble isn't his ability. Or maybe I'm just biased because I'm from Worcester too.

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07 Aug 2020 22:31:39
Can’t help but agree with GingerDan, yes it is only 14-14.5m but he’s a massive risk plus I’m sure he’ll want a nice pay packet too, whilst POTENTIALLY keeping the physios etc busy.

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07 Aug 2020 23:02:54
Wasn’t a certain Peter Reid an injury prone player? 🤔.

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08 Aug 2020 00:42:29
Yes he was southern. Hence how we managed to buy him for a cut price £60,000 from Bolton wanderers. As we all know he was outstanding for us. For £60,000 it was a risk worth taking.

£14million when our finances are tight and we may have to sell before we can buy seems too big a risk to me.

As Worcester has said if he’s fit then the quality he’ll bring to the team would be amazing and he would bring us up and I have to agree with him, he’s far better than anyone we’ve currently got.

The issue is the risk involved if he’s not over his injuries. When we were splashing the cash last season and season before I’d be saying yes but this season it’s a whole different ball game with our finances and we have to be shrewd. Would make more sense to get him on a loan with option to purchase at £14mil at end of it therefore mitigating the risk.

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08 Aug 2020 01:44:53
Obviously not worth arguing the point. Over the past couple of weeks it seems that everybody is criticising every single player we're rumoured to be interested in because they want the money spent on unproven championship players.

Oh no he's had serious injuries, let's steer well clear at an absolutely bargainous price because nobody comes back from them.

Seamus Coleman, Andre Gomes, Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Aaron Ramsey, Francesco Totti, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Santi Cazorla, Peter Cech, Henrik Larsson, Alan Shearer Ronaldo (G. O. A. T. Brazilian) - you were all frauds who should have retired because your careers were finished after serious injuries!

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08 Aug 2020 09:35:42
If we didn’t have FFP holding the noose then fair enough WorcesterEFC but again I agree with GingerDan. Loan for the season with the option to buy, then yes!
It’s hard not to look at players with some doubt and hesitation given our recent recruitment and what we see in front of us on the pitch. and on the physio’s bench.

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06 Aug 2020 22:18:59
Hi Eds,
Just wondering if you are aware of any interest from Everton in season long loans or free transfers.
I know Everton must think outside the box this transfer window as financially they're not in a position to make large purchases for multiple players.

Many thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I think there may be a loan or loan to buy option for Diogo Dalot.}

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07 Aug 2020 09:32:33
He was highly rated when Man Utd signed him, think this could be a good move. He probably needs game time, which he should get at Everton. Although I’m not sure why J-J K isn’t a serious option, by all accounts he has a good season in Germany?

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07 Aug 2020 09:03:18
I assume most of (if any) of our transfers will be loans or loan to buy Ed? . Not looking promising if we have to sell to buy, don’t think the nominal fee we got for Schneiderlin will go very far 🤷‍♂️😂.

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07 Aug 2020 09:33:11
Thanks Ed, I'm sure not the type of name we were all hoping for but I guess beggers can't be choosers. Hopefully they may be able to attract some quality before the season starts as we're in dire need of it.

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07 Aug 2020 09:36:51
Will that be an Ancelotti signing?

{Ed002's Note - Brands.}

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07 Aug 2020 10:16:04
Mirror reported this could be permanent at £10m, is it a case of one or the other between Dalot and Celik?

{Ed002's Note - If Everton have the cash available it may be but it won't be both. Zeki Celik (RB) Lille are willing to sell for €20M and don't want to negotiate too far from that amount. The player is looking to move to England at some point and the asking price has proven too high for Villareal who were offered to opportunity to bid for him. West Ham, Everton and Spurs have shown an interest.}

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07 Aug 2020 10:33:37
Thanks Eds, don't know much about Celik so I think Dalot would be the better option for us, would certainly help on the financial front at least!

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05 Aug 2020 23:48:00
I've seen all the reirs to Ivanovic link but I can't see a downside to it. We lack leadership and he has been there done that. It's just wages and we do have some amazing potential at the back that could learn off n on the field from BI (Feeney, Branthwaite, Kenny and Holgate) .

I would much rather do this and save some spending for midfield and goals - there won't be much and most in same boat but not many have the pulling power of Carlo. Would definitely go in for Sarr, Dacoure and get what ya can for Sig, Bolasie and Mina but that's wishful thinking.

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06 Aug 2020 06:40:59
I thought Feeney had been released by the club.

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06 Aug 2020 22:02:50
I thought he has as well.

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06 Aug 2020 23:42:39
you can't see a downside to signing a 36yr old defender in a team already lacking pace?

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07 Aug 2020 03:30:41
How'd that importing leadership from an aging player work out with Delph? Let's do that again.

{Ed0666's Note - pleas do 😂

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07 Aug 2020 09:41:10
Sorry coyb don’t think you can put that down to age.

According to transfermarkt stats - Delph has missed 112 games due to injury in his career whilst Ivanovic has missed 24 games.

We bought a crock in Delph. He spends more time injured than playing.

Nothing to do with his age why we haven’t benefited from Delph’s potential leadership skills - it’s because of his abysmal injury record.

Ivanovic has a much better injury record so we may actually benefit from his leadership skills.

Nothing to do with age.

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05 Aug 2020 15:46:51
Ed 02 could you see everton being intrested in any championship players like watkins big fan of his. There are few good players in championship who could make step up.

{Ed002's Note - I think you may be expecting too much of Everton. There is the pandemic, the significant losses the club have made this season, the FFP issue - thyey need to tread carefully and largely look to fund transfers through sales.}

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05 Aug 2020 19:23:52
Even NewsNow spreading rubbish. Everton £85 mill for Baily apparently ha!

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05 Aug 2020 22:50:23
BBC reporting Watkins has a buyout clause of £18mil which was activated by Brentford not getting promoted.

That would seem a much better gamble than £50mil on Edouard from Celtic.

Think if a premier league team are to take a chance on him may be a shrewd addition.

{Ed002's Note - I would ignore any “buyout” clause.}

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06 Aug 2020 09:55:23
Okay ed who can u see going we don't really have anyone of real value except richarlison. Unless they offload all loan players for minimal fees.

{Ed002's Note - Maarten Stekelenburg (G) has joined Ajax again
Djibril Sidibe (RB) Player wants out but Everton would like to take up their option but would need the player to be persuaded to stay - Monaco had Milan saying they will take him on a loan to buy in January and they could look again in the summer. PSG are interested at the right price and Monaco are looking at a major reshuffle, Seville have approached Monaco. Expect him not to return t Everton.
Jonjoe Kenny (RB) Schalke want another loan.
Lewis Gibson (CB) A couple of minor injuries, and game time has dried up so the player has to consider options which did include old club Newcastle, Southampton, Brighton and Rangers but that all seems to have dried up given the pandemic.
has joined Ajax again
Nathangelo Markelo (DM) loan to Twente for the season.
Mo Besic (DM)
Morgan Schneiderlin (DM/CM) a deal has been done with Nice
Fabian Delph (CM)
Gylfi Sigurdsson (AM) no interest being shown in him
Yannick Bolasie (LW) Sporting wanted to keep him but would prefer another loan if there is an end to the current crisis - this is the result of buying all the LWs in Europe - will be very tough to move on
Nathan Broadhead (LW) seemingly no chance of a career at Everton - there will be Championship interest at the right price
Cenk Tosun (S) has permission to talk to other clubs but won't be fit until around the New Year - so he will stay for now.
Oumar Niasse (S) will leave as a Free Agent
Sandro Ramirez (S) Real Valladolid say Everton have priced him out of a permanent move there
Moise Kean (S) I explained in the summer why Moise Kean was sold to Everton and he has the need for regular game time. He is expected to be hawked around Italy - and Roma wanted a loan but would have considered an exchange for Cengiz Under - the interest of two other sides seems to have gone and Roma are now also looking elsewhere. Moise Kean's representative has been in England recently and Everton were on of the clubs he spoke with about transfers - and he wants the MK situation resolved. There is a side keen on taking him on loan but that won't help Everton so right now it looks like he will probably stay - but will need to up his game.

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06 Aug 2020 15:02:42
Thanks for info ed02.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

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05 Aug 2020 13:45:29
Hi Ed002, do you have any further information on the Gabriel Magalhaes situation?, will he be coming to us? or is it looking more like Todibo?

{Ed002's Note - Gabriel Magalhaes (CB) Lille didn't want to sell in January although Arsenal pushed - the player has signed a new contract, but Arsenal opted to sign Mari - and are overrun with CBs and also have Saliba joining, opted to extend David Luiz and have Holding fit in addition to at least four other – so they can be discounted. Lazio have made their interest known as the seek a replacement for Luiz Felipe (CB) but Gabriel is not their first choice - although their first choice may well be heading elsewhere. Napoli know that they may well sell Kalidou Koulibaly (CB) in the summer and have an interest in the player but won't do anything until they are sure KK is to be sold - which could prove to be a very difficult task without a significant drop in the asking price. Southampton and Everton have both sent scouts to watch the player with Everton notifying Lille that they are very interested in taking the player in the summer – but there has been no “done deal” as many of the Everton fans think and it would take a significant sales pitch to see him make a move to a club with no European football. However, the Everton interest remains. Chelsea and Spurs have both looked and Chelsea fans have, like the Everton fans, convinced themselves a deal has already been done. In reality, he is not be top of the list of replacements have for any of the existing CBs leave although Chelsea have accepted that their two preferred choices. Spurs have a bigger problem in that they have an aging defensive squad supplemented by players who are only perhaps borderline good enough. Spurs have other options they are looking at but could prioritise Gabriel and have spoken with Lille. Prior interest of PSG was thought to have gone but with their financial issues limiting their ability to spend without sales - but it is back. Real Madrid have half a dozen CBs ahead of Gabriel Magalhaes but they are all too expensive so he becomes an option but they need significant sales before they can buy and have already put off their two major signings to next year – so I think they too can be discounted as they are also constrained by the “foreigner” rule in Spain. There is significant interest in the player and Lille say they have spoken with five sides who are verbally willing to pay the asking amount, but that list does not include Manchester United and they say firm bids have only been made via his agents. However, his agents who have a large number of Brazilian players on their books only have one player signed to an English side and took the opportunity to raise the issue of Gabriel with other sides whilst visiting London – and that includes Manchester United. I understand that the meeting took place in London without OGS present, but those present found the meeting encouraging. Everton need now to offer an acceptable amount to Lille and sell their project to the player. The player knows where he wishes to move to, and that is to join Osimhen at Napoli – but they won’t commit without an understanding being reached over Koulibaly.

It is looking like Ivanovich.}

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05 Aug 2020 14:33:16
Wow Ed002, I knew I’d get a good reply but that was next level. Thanks, looks like plenty of penalties and forwards in behind the defence for us next season then 🙁.

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05 Aug 2020 22:02:20
I hope we don't sign ivanovich what is he 36 how is that supposed to improve are squad this seems like the delph signing of last season which came back to bite us in the ass.
If this is the level of signings for next season we are in deep trouble.

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05 Aug 2020 23:48:30
Napoli Already need to sell One non EU player to allow Osihmen to sign, so that will be 2 if they Want Gabriel.

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05 Aug 2020 12:03:17
Think Carlo is going to find like every Manager before him at Everton. With Transfers you don't get the player you want, you get the player you are given. Difference is with Carlo, Everton don't have the lee way to hum and hah, he will just walk.

{Ed002's Note - It will be much better now. He wants and will get Ivanovich to give experience - but at 36 it will only be in the short term.}

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05 Aug 2020 13:45:21
I like that reply from Ed - sounds more positive than usual, hoping that’s because the third party advisors are long gone and brands and Carlo working together.

Ivanovic for experience on a short term deal sounds ok. Just hope it’s not because we’ve missed out on Gabriel.

Be interesting to see how the window progresses for us.

Probably 90% of the players we are being linked with are not even on our radar just click bait or stories to try and spur other interested teams in to bidding.

Brands I believe had already come out and said probably only 2-3 signings this window - let’s hope they are good ones.

Majority of his work this window will be continuing to move players on.

{Ed002's Note - Brands and Ancelotti have better control but have to work within a budget.}

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05 Aug 2020 14:07:31
Cheers Ed. Good to hear they have better control.

Whilst it’s frustrating as a fan to hear the word budget as most fans would love their team to go out and spend x amount to buy the player they think will make the difference. £35mil Allan, £25mil Gabriel, £50mil Edouard, etc.

It’s totally understandable that those days are gone for us.
We’re a mid table team at best at the moment with no European football income.

We have to spend within our means and make sure we start making the right decisions in the transfer market.

We’ve been crazy in the market before and we are running the risk of breaching FFP.

Hopefully we can strike a good balance this window of moving some players on and replacing wisely.

There’s also a moral issue as the C.V. C.V. has also severely affected incomes - not just football clubs but those of the fans.

I’m not sure how I’d feel seeing the team spend £40mil on a player then pay him £100k+ per week when there are probably 1000’s of fans out there who have lost probably lost their jobs because of the C.V. But will still spend what money they have on supporting the team.

Will be interesting to see if the C.V. puts transfer fees and wages in to any perspective.

{Ed002's Note - Many clubs are in serious financial trouble and many (e.g. Barcelona) are looking for players to take wage cuts.}

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05 Aug 2020 14:10:07
Carlo coming to the Club has been a huge positive. Thanks for the reply Ed002.

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05 Aug 2020 15:33:47
Thanks for the reply Ed.
On the Barcelona financial issues - I imagine they are still keen to move Tobido on, I remember we were previously linked to him but was reported we weren’t keen on the deal offered (possible buy back clause) do we still hold an interest or has that now gone?

{Ed002's Note - Jean-Clair Todibo is still an option for Everton. Jean-Clair Todibo (CB) will be sold with a buy-back clause and €25M - plenty of interest but Barcelona do not see him as good enough - was available in January and is being offered around to clubs including Everton who may well look to push for him, Manchester United and Inter. Milan have had talks but concerns over injuries saw a lower bid made and rejected. General interest from RBL (gone), Rennes Bayer Leverkusen and Southampton but no discussions. His agent has offered him to Napoli as a Kalidou Koulibaly replacement but they have their mind set on another. Roma are being messed around over another player and have turned to declare an interest in J-CT but it looks like that issue will be resolved - so they will drop interest.}

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05 Aug 2020 16:46:03
Thanks for the reply.
Will be interesting to see how our recruitment pans out over this window.

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05 Aug 2020 11:28:44
Reports suggesting Chelsea are off-loading a few that would improve our team. Anyone for Zouma and would the door be completely closed on Barkley return? I know the lad left under a cloud but he would improve our inept midfield and before everyone goes on about not being able to forgive n forget, people change, mature and remember that loyalty is mostly ignored by clubs and players. I think the fees for both would be realistic for us and maybe they'd be interested in a swap for Digne, seeing as we're also linked with that Real LB?

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05 Aug 2020 11:57:51
Zouma has an excellent spell with us and would improve the squad IMO. Barkley would need to be very open about his desire to return to the club - again, he’d improve our midfield without a doubt. Loftus-Cheek would be preferable but I don’t see Chelsea letting him go, or him wanting to come to us.

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05 Aug 2020 12:38:55
Cornerflag - Barkley? Are you serious?

Regardless of the fact he left us under a cloud, delayed his transfer getting us a lower fee and had numerous off field issues in the city meaning he had to leave.

1 goal and 4 assists this season.

He hasn’t really set the world on fire since he left us.

Surely there are far better players out there than have him back - some of those Brentford players may be worth a look at if we’re raiding the capital.

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05 Aug 2020 12:47:10
Zouma would be a good buy, but Lampard likes him so I can't see that happening unless we paid top dollar, which would be better placed on someone from outside the PL.

Barkley, like Stones, has not improved at all since he left and has arguably regressed since leaving us, there's no way the majority of our fans would even consider having him back.

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05 Aug 2020 13:03:08
Absolutely not Barkley. He's been his usual stop start self at Chelsea. Surrounded by world class players and his stats are woeful.
It would be embarrassing for us to go after him. Can we finally have a window where we are not constantly wishing back ex players.

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05 Aug 2020 13:13:23
There are far better players - but you wouldn’t need to be great to improve our current midfield.
Brentford, Norwich, Bournemouth and Watford all have players that would get into our match day squad. Gone are the days when you could pick them up on the cheap. There is value in the European market as teams struggle financially.

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05 Aug 2020 15:57:30
Barkley can disappear into Chelsea's u23 squad for all I care I would never want him back at our club remember we stuck by him when he broke his leg in 3 places we gave him a platform to make the England squad and how did he repay us delayed his transfer by 6 months used Finch farm to get himself fit then move at a lower fee with a higher signing on fee and higher wages yeah no thanks I want him to fail massively.

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05 Aug 2020 19:31:03
Both would improve our team and as long as both of them played I wouldn’t be bothered I’d have both back.

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04 Aug 2020 12:55:04
Hi Eds, just wondering if any club has shown any interest in Sigurdsson?
While an extremely skilful player, he seems to have lost his way and is struggling to fit into CA style of play.
Everton vastly overpaid for him which was not his fault but if he were to go we'd only get a fraction of what we paid. He like many more is on large wages and I'm sure he may be one that they may think of offloading. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of interest.}

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04 Aug 2020 15:06:21
Thanks Ed.

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04 Aug 2020 18:22:15
Just the response you/ all of us wanted Kerry 😂.

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06 Aug 2020 22:29:49
I can't see why any team would want him. He'd want near enough 100k a week I'd imagine, he wouldn't start, won't tackle and will make a semi decent forward pass every 3 or 4 games.

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