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25 Jun 2024 06:29:47
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24 Jun 2024 19:56:01
Eds, can you give us an update on Calvert lewin and potential incomings?

{Ed002's Note - At present Everton have priced him out of a move to Newcastle - they could return with a better offer. Wildcard would be MIlan if Zrkzee heads elsewhere.

Iliman Ndiaye (S/W/AM) Versatile forward who only joined Marseille in the summer of 2023 - but the goals have completely dried up. Everton have enquired after a loan with an option to buy, but the player wants to stay in Marseille, although they are keen to sell him and want their €20M back but will reluctantly accept slightly less - aligning with what they will be spending on his replacement.

Tammy Abraham (S) With JM departed then it is likely TA will as well. Brentford see him as a potential Toney replacement and Aston Villa will almost certainly provide an option. Spurs may turn to him if they lose out on their first choice. Wildcard would be Everton but it would require UEFA oversight and payments spread over a longer period. Will need to prove his fitness after a terrible injury. Roma may offer him back to Chelsea in exchange for Lukaku.}

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24 Jun 2024 18:39:29
Any truth in the rumours that Quatar Airlines I are Interested in our naming rights deal at BMD worth £200; million.

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24 Jun 2024 19:27:43
Wasn't this like 18months ago GB!

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24 Jun 2024 19:41:32
I have more faith in reports these days mate after the latest proposed takeover.

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24 Jun 2024 20:29:34
The original story was January 2023 GB.

Not heard or read anything new on this. Just someone regurgitating old news it appears or unless they gone on again.

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24 Jun 2024 20:51:35
Ok mate cheers for that will have to wait and see, but good signs eh.

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24 Jun 2024 21:03:27
Certainly the future is looking a lot positive GB.

Look forward to seeing what our squad looks like come close of the window, regardless I will be getting behind Dyche and sticking to my belief in him and taking us forward next couple seasons. 💙🙏.

{Ed025's Note - im getting excited for the new season as well Mocker..

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24 Jun 2024 21:11:05
Steady Ed you know what the doctor said mate don’t get toooooo excited.

{Ed025's Note - i will be eating statins like smarties if it carries on GB.. :)

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24 Jun 2024 21:32:55
Ha Ed. am in same boat bud, had bit of blowout at weekend as off on a 12week low calorie shakes and soup diet start of July to help get my type 2 diabetes into remission.
Like you said previously this getting old ain't right cracky (only 47 mind) .

{Ed025's Note - im 66 Mocker and just retired, i have also got type 2 mate but thats because i eat too much having just given up smoking, im still falling to bits mind but playing a lot of golf now, im hoping we can all meet up one day at BMD god willing and have a good old natter and a few pints..

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24 Jun 2024 21:57:17
That would be great Ed👍 I don't do myself any favours with diet and drinking. You got to live tho hey pal.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely Mocker, over the years i spent a lot of money on booze, cigarettes and dodgy women mate...the rest i squandered.. :)

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24 Jun 2024 22:13:50
Sounds like a plan Ed25 - just got to get there first! More greens, more fibre, more iron… looks like we’ll all be on the stoat, Guinness and fruity cocktails for the foreseeable future.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely BR, the only greens im interested in at the moment though are the ones on the golf course mate, and the only iron my 7 iron, but i am partial to good pint of Guinness..

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25 Jun 2024 03:27:14
You boys sound like Sissy and Ada from The Les Dawson show lol.

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24 Jun 2024 18:29:22
Ndaiye deal looks close to being done.

Thoughts?

{Ed025's Note - it would work for me Chalkie mate..

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24 Jun 2024 18:50:59
Looks a good deal Ed eh, on another note have you heard anything on the rumour Quatar Airways may be interested in our naming rights worth over £200 million.

{Ed025's Note - i have not heard about a Quatar Airways naming rights bid GB, but i must say that i am turning into you mate as far as my positivity goes.. :)

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24 Jun 2024 19:31:21
Early work being done in the transfer window, chuffed with that.

{Ed025's Note - yeah GB, makes a welcome change mate..

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24 Jun 2024 22:16:35
As long as we aren’t cooking the books GB, it’s all good news though not the major attacking threat we expected or hoped for. If we managed Ndiaye, that might fill some of the void.

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24 Jun 2024 23:03:04
I'm sure Marseille will try and recoup most of what they paid for him which seems a lot for a player with his goal record. I'm not convinced personally, he's a championship player.

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25 Jun 2024 01:11:20
Agreed no better than maupay if you ask me.

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24 Jun 2024 14:41:02
Sky saying the DCL and Minteh moves are off.

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24 Jun 2024 18:24:37
Not massively unhappy about that.

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24 Jun 2024 18:58:36
Me neither Chalkie. Like us get minteh, but be happier keeping DCL.

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24 Jun 2024 19:12:42
Agree, just need to keep the lad fit and maybe give him a little more support.

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24 Jun 2024 19:32:16
Still saying Newcastle can re open talks.

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24 Jun 2024 23:01:47
Good news if true!

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23 Jun 2024 22:29:00
In reply to Oceandrive re EFC and Villa buying off each other. Think the benefit in those deals is each team sold the other an academy player so all of transfer fee is profit. For the selling team. when you buy another player you can spread the cost over the duration of the contract. So for us. Say we got 9/ 10 million for Dobbin. That’s pure profit for PSR calculations. Then we bought Tim from Villa for similar price on three year contract. So around 3M a year so by selling Dobbin this year for PSR just on those two players EFC can put 6/ 7 M towards PSR. (Depends if he was 9 or 10M to buy) Hope all that makes sense. That’s my understanding of it anyway. Jack.

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23 Jun 2024 22:45:01
Nice one jack, that makes more sense so therefore the Newcastle dcl and mintee deals must be unrelated as they aren’t academy players.

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23 Jun 2024 23:25:35
Not quite Ocean. The academy aspect just means that the money coming in is pure profit. Deals can still be done that are favourable to clubs even if they aren't academy players.

The benefit for clubs would be by selling a player e.g us with Dom, selling him for say £15 million. All of that fee, minus the £1.5 we initially paid for him, will be coming into the club as profit for PSR. Where as signing young Tim on a 3 year deal at £9m would mean the cost would be split over the length of his contract, so much less of hit going against PSR.

The same the other way with Villa. 9m in for Tim and then whatever they sign Dobbin for would be split over his contract length.

Ed's I am not 100% sure if that is how it works so please correct if I am wrong on that.

{Ed001's Note - why would the £1.5m be of any relevance? That is not how it works at all. That will have long been written off over the course of his contract. The stuff that comes out of it is things such as agent fees, the 5% of the transfer fee that goes to the clubs that developed him as a youngster, the 5% that goes to the player, solicitor fees etc. The academy aspect just means a club keeps an extra 5% of the fee that will otherwise go to the club/s whose academy/s the player spent time at.

If it is a recently signed player, who fee is being split for accounting purposes over his contract and still has a couple of years left to be written off, then you would have that to come out of the 'profit'.}

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24 Jun 2024 14:55:58
Quite a bit in the press about these 'odd' transfers between Villa and us. Suggesting that we've exploited a loophole.

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23 Jun 2024 12:00:48
ManUre have apparently made a £50 million bid for Onana. I'd happily drive the lad there myself for that fee.

{Ed025's Note - you could take him in your truck WT.. :)

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23 Jun 2024 12:17:22
Really? On one hand we have people literally crying about us possibly selling a player who has 1 year left and doesn't score goals for a massive profit if rumours true at £35m who cost £1.5m
And then a very young player who is 1 year older than Branthwaite and cost £35m is wanted by Arsenal, Chelsea, ManU, Barcelona, Munich etc and the fee is relatively rumoured to only be £50ishM. The kid is clearly not in a team with the good players he makes look good like he does for his country. Must be the players fault.

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23 Jun 2024 12:18:44
Could put all his possessions in the back Ed. do you think it's a genuine offer or just media rubbish?

{Ed025's Note - i think it might be genuine WT, quite a few clubs are interested in him mate...dont ask me why .. :)

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23 Jun 2024 12:22:04
I'd want aleast 60 for onnana at minimum chelsea paid that for lavia.

{Ed025's Note - get bretto on our negotiations team.. :)

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23 Jun 2024 12:23:09
Excellent news that the Manure are offering over £50 million for Onana and if we can get £37 or near abouts for injury prone DCL that would be great news indeed, keep JB young players coming in will be a new Team when we kick off in the summer, Sean getting deals done early bring it on.

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23 Jun 2024 12:31:36
The lad obviously thinks he can do a lot better for himself so let him go. To me he’s just another Paul Pogba. Has talent but very rarely shows it.

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23 Jun 2024 14:05:25
DCL was a more effective player for us than Onana in my opinion FBS. We now we have to sell someone otherwise we’d keep them all. I’d take 50 for Onana.

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23 Jun 2024 14:35:08
And the same suspects crying over Dobbin, . Small and all kinds of long forgottens. Utterly baffling.

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23 Jun 2024 14:47:19
I think he’s been very good in euros he’s strong can tackle and a decent passer.

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23 Jun 2024 21:51:12
Having a differing opinion to FBS = crying. Hope Dobbin does well, didn’t see enough from him personally. If we can get good money for Onana, we should take it and secure FFP. Think we’ll struggle to find a number 9 that does the job that Dom’s done for us in difficult circumstances, happy to be proven wrong by Thelwell and co of course.

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23 Jun 2024 23:17:28
Spot on FBS. Some go on about how good DCL could be with better players around him but don't apply the same logic to Onana.

I am not too fussed as he clearly wants to go and has high aspirations but the way people talk him down as if he is sh**e is beyond baffling. That being said, I guess football is a game of opinions after all.

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24 Jun 2024 08:30:47
Say what you see. I see a player with a lot of potential who sadly doesn't always show it.

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24 Jun 2024 10:24:40
The lad has undoubted ability, but have to agree he seems more of a Pogba luxury player toe and his heart doesn't seem in it.

He will no doubt go elsewhere and in a possession retaining team and a worker ngolo kante type next to him flourish.

Sadly we simple don't have the calibre of players or style to get the best out of him. A decent profit is not a bad deal, I was actually worried we get our outlay back.

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24 Jun 2024 10:56:57
I don't think anyone doubt that he has qualities and he could grow into a fantastic player. We are not, unfortunately, in a position to hang on to all of our assets. If we get good bids for any player, we'd have to consider them. If we sell him for more than we purchased him for, you'd have to say that's good business. Hopefully the days of us paying over the odds for ageing players is gone (I know, Ashley Young - but we need some old heads) .

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22 Jun 2024 18:52:59
Ed02 does beto have any suitors is there chance he goes roma we get Abraham.

{Ed002's Note - Beto (S) Agent has approached Inter and Juventus but they have preferred options for cover. Agent wants him to move on. Goals have dried up completely and Everton will look to a sale to recover at least some funds from the journeyman striker. Could have to settle for a loan initially.}

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23 Jun 2024 12:32:20
That was 25m we could have done without blowing.

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22 Jun 2024 16:09:35
Eds, any truth in the DCL and minteh rumours?

{Ed002's Note - Dominic Calvert-Lewin (S) The second player tapped up by Steven Gerrard. The summer will be a decision point for the player who will be another the club are willing to sell in order to raise funds to avoid a third charge. Newcastle, Brentford and West Ham offer options with Newcastle pressing to sign him to replace Callum Wilson. Manchester United offer a wildcard option.

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22 Jun 2024 15:40:51
Good afternoon folks.
I have said before on here I am not DCL's biggest fan, there is a quality striker in there somewhere but he has had rotten luck with injuries and is a little too inconsistent for me.
You could argue that he doesn't get the best service but how many big chances just he miss? Quite a few to be honest.
If I remember rightly when Sky did a piece on Darwin Nunez and how he isn't clinical enough when they put up the graphic DCL was right up there too.
He is 27 now, I believe it is a good move for him and good luck to the lad. Hopefully we can invest on a younger forward to take us forward.
Does anyone know if Minteh is a realistic option coming to us?

{Ed025's Note - i think Minteh is a realistic option Duaney..

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22 Jun 2024 15:56:49
Rumours are that clubs are doing these deals to bend the rules and avoid sanctions as the rules only dictate transfer money not out of they restructure the ins so as not to count for this year so 100% the dcl and minteh deals will happen like the villa deals did and we shouldn’t have to sell branthwaite by July as we will just scrape through due to these deals. Will prob still have to sell him but won’t have our pants pulled down, good on us villa and Newcastle finding a loophole and sticking two fingers up to the premier league.

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22 Jun 2024 16:25:31
Minteh would be good for us.

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22 Jun 2024 21:26:29
Minted would be mint eh!

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23 Jun 2024 08:54:54
I have to say DCL is a top quality striker playing in a poor side.
Put him in the Newcastle or Man U side and he’s 20 goals a season no problem.
Playing him as a loan striker with no support and he’s feeding off scraps.
I agree it’s time for him to move on, but it will be a big hole to fill if we continue with SD playing a loan striker.

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23 Jun 2024 09:25:22
I kind of get what you are saying Chalkie but there is no evidence that DCL would get anywhere near 20 goals a season.
I think maybe 15 if Newcastle play to his strengths which I'm not sure they will.

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23 Jun 2024 12:34:05
The way we play with just one up top no striker is going to get 15 or 20 goals.

{Ed025's Note - thats my worry as well Harlex..

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23 Jun 2024 23:28:32
Not sure how you can guarantee he gets 20+ goals for United given how bad they are and the fact that Holjund is a much more complete finisher than Dom is and even he couldn't even get close to that.

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22 Jun 2024 14:12:37
Davitashvilli, number 9 for Georgia looks a good player. Quick and strong. Playing in the second division in France. Type of players I'd like to see us go in for.

{Ed002's Note - That is not possible.}

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22 Jun 2024 14:25:49
Work permit?

{Ed002's Note - There is no chance he would get one for the Premier Legue.}

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22 Jun 2024 15:41:12
I thought they’re softened the rules on work permits, Ed? Is that only for youth players?

{Ed002's Note - The amended them to allow for Exceptions- nothing else.}

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23 Jun 2024 08:05:54
Think the country has to be ranked in top 70? Georgia is 70+.

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22 Jun 2024 10:49:36
Calvert lewin to Newcastle what would be everyone feeling on that.

{Ed025's Note - i would be gutted bretto, i think given the proper service and a quality player supporting him he would be top class mate..

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22 Jun 2024 11:27:36
Sell him.

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22 Jun 2024 11:42:22
I’d like to keep him.
If he does go to them, get Wilson on a one year deal.

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22 Jun 2024 12:05:48
Calvert lewin although not great is miles ahead of anyone we have. As ed says he needs is the right service. A winger or 2 that can put a ball in would be great.

I really hope jack Harrison doesn't come back.

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22 Jun 2024 12:30:49
Jack Harrison is coming back.

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22 Jun 2024 12:32:28
Get a good price and a good replacement I would let him go, Sean knows what he wants.

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22 Jun 2024 11:51:20
The reality is that we haven't got quality players supporting him Ed. We all know the lads strengths. Being good in the air - we don't have players that can cross and find him. His hold-up play - we don't have players that get ahead of him for flick-ons and we don't have players that get in and around him to offer decent support.

I have always thought that he isn't a natural finisher and that is evident by the amount of big chances he misses for us. Some rightly point out his lack of service but the lad still drops a bollock with so many chances that lesser players would score.

It will be incredibly hard for us to replace what he offers us as a whole package, especially given our constraints but if we get some decent money for him to ease the PSR issues, whilst he is in the last year of his contract, I wouldn't get too upset about it.

In reality we have to find somebody to replace 6/ 8 goals a season. There is every chance that he could have another big injury. Finding a player to do that, I don't think would be as hard as some may think.

Solanke, Mateta, Jackson, Wood, Wissa, Cunha, Darwin, Morris, Holjund, Adebayo, Pedro, Muniz, Wilson, Semenyo, Gakpo - all scored more than him. I haven't included the top strikers in that list or any midfielders that outscored him.

{Ed025's Note - i just think he has been playing with one arm tied behind his back BN, yes he is not prolific but i dont think thats the important part of his play mate, he holds up the ball well and given support can bring others in to the game to do that, you cant expect any player to single handedly be the only attacker and score a high volume of goals, if he does go to Newcastle you see what he does with the likes of Isak and Gordon alongside him..

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22 Jun 2024 11:58:38
I'd like to keep as agree Ed, he is top level at his best, obviously just the injury concern and contract situation, if doesn't want to sign he has to be sold.

Also yes I'd take Wilson all day long JB. More than capable of seeing us through next couple of seasons.

{Ed025's Note - if he does want to go Mocker then thats fine let him go, but we wont see the best of him unless we play different football than Dyche ball and all the negativity that brings, i happen to like Wilson but if hes left up top on his own mate he will do no better than DCL imo..

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22 Jun 2024 12:28:51
I think Ed 25 with year left on contract if he not gone sign we let him go and bring someone else In same with godfrey.

{Ed025's Note - yeah i get that Bretto, but we should not really be in that position mate, its bad management of contracts..

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22 Jun 2024 13:04:25
The contract issue is likely the deciding factor here. If he doesn’t fancy extending then we need to recoup a fee now or get nothing in a year. At least then we could look for a replacement.

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22 Jun 2024 13:13:20
If DCL is happy and signs contract then yes I'd 100% keep your bang on ed about him and what he actually brings to us as a team, can't argue with needs better service and change of system to allow him to be more of a goalscoring threat.

As we set up now, they ain't many better at Holding it up, but we need the players working off him, which we don't have, I'd like see a tweak in system to allow see us carry more punch upfront Ed but Dyche will stick to what he does best, obviously the incomings and outgoings could sway this.

I also wouldn't want us going for Harrison again, he is a grafter yes but think we could find someone who offers more especially a loan.

I just want to see some pace and movement up top next season, watching England other night was just like watching us at times, frustrating as know we can other more and stands out a mile where problems lay.

{Ed025's Note - yeah Mocker if it was up to me Harrison would be on his bike mate, i think it will take more than a tweak to get us playing attractive football though..

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22 Jun 2024 13:29:25
Anyone saying "get rid" of DCL needs their head testing, he's a CF who with the right service is easily a 15 goal a season striker, any money we recieved for him won't even amount to half the money required to but a CF of the same standard.

{Ed002's Note - Dominic Calvert-Lewin (S) The second player tapped up by Steven Gerrard. The summer will be a decision point for the player who will be another the club are willing to sell in order to raise funds to avoid a third charge. Newcastle, Brentford and West Ham offer options with Newcastle pressing to sign him to replace Callum Wilson. Manchester United offer a wildcard option.

Everton are actively working on finding a replacement.}

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22 Jun 2024 14:06:37
Well unfortunately we have a tactical clown who doesn't have a clue offensively and DCL will absolutely take off in another side and it'll be gutting but if he stays he will yet again be lucky to get 5 or 6 goals all season. Just feel any lump can achieve the same so cash in and sort out the finances. Hate to say it but someone like that Wood unit would do the task asked by our supreme dinosaur just as efficiently and for 30% of the wages. It is where we are at pathetically.

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22 Jun 2024 13:30:48
Depends who goes Ed, as you said previously we do have the nucleus of a decent team. But we have a very slow team ed both in terms of actually pace and speed of moving the ball, especially top ed.

If honest doubt will be much different to last season, again depends on our squad come the start.

Don't want Harrison, not fussed on Onana going, DCL to go if won't commit t and try get a couple of pacy wingers on loan, loads out there, a decent winger and a creative midfielder slotted into what we had last season with a few dead wood out mate and some shrewd free/ minimal fee players, get finances sorted, hope to keep JB (I do think will go mind) and we might actually start to move on as a club ed, onwards and upwards pal. Anyway off for few cheeky sherbets as just done my mornings graft. Enjoy ya afternoon ed and all💙🍻.

{Ed025's Note - have a great day Mocker mate..

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22 Jun 2024 15:37:12
I'm sad to see him leaving. On his day, unplayable, he's possibly over his injury jinx and Newcastle will benefit with Gordon firing in the crosses. 😔.

{Ed025's Note - im with you Tomtom..

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22 Jun 2024 15:48:14
Tough one. He’s only one injury from another long layoff. Can we find better? I’m not sure we can. If he doesn’t want to sign an extension, I think we have to sell him. Given how the club have stood by him, you’d hope he’d give us more years but football is no longer about loyalty.

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22 Jun 2024 17:33:30
I have always thought he is a decent player, I just don't think he is a good striker. He simply does not have the ability to fashion chances out of nothing, so if we can't make chances for him, it will be a repeat of last year.

My view on letting him go is all purely contextual. The injury worries. The contract issue and him leaving for free. The expensive wages. The fact that we don't play to his strengths.

Like Ed said, we won't see a huge amount of change in style of play, so it looks like it will be another slog.

I would rather us let him go if he doesn't want to stay and then get an instinctive striker in place who can actually strike a ball. People might think I'm having a pop at Dom there but I am really not. The lad cannot strike a football.

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22 Jun 2024 21:34:20
I have to say I would love to keep DCL and agree with the right supply he would bang them in
We need a better option playing off him, no offence to Doucs but he’s not a second striker or number 10
But I would love that Minteh pace in the wing!
I think DCL is mad, sign a contract see out the last season at Goodison and play at the new stadium
But then if he goes through the injuries again I will curse myself and wish we took the money.

{Ed025's Note - i think lots of us feel the same ST mate..

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23 Jun 2024 09:32:21
Get Adebayo from Luton as a replacement and get Chermiti out on loan if Beto stays.

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23 Jun 2024 10:57:26
Has he ever scored from outside the box?

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