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18 May 2024 07:47:23
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17 May 2024 07:46:33
Looks like Onana will be off before the 30th June to balance the books for FFP, offers over £50 million being reported with Bayern Munich interested. would sooner he goes than Branthwaite, just the start of the expected mass exodus.

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17 May 2024 10:34:22
Personally I'd rather he went and we kept braithwaite, I can't see both staying but onana will be less of a loss . selling players to balance the books is one thing, leaving the team weak os another, any mistakes and we will be in the championship.

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17 May 2024 12:05:52
It is a shame that we cannot keep hold of him until after the tournament, where he will no doubt feature for Belgium and shine around better players.

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17 May 2024 13:04:39
If we could recoup more than we paid for him I’d bite someone’s arm off. For me, he’s massively over rated.
He may come good for someone else of course, and good luck to him.

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17 May 2024 13:53:06
I don’t rate him either JB, think we paid £33 million for him, we have to raise money so sales will be important, we don’t ever want to go through this again mate.

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17 May 2024 14:24:06
There is a considerable sell on fee that is owed to Lille.

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17 May 2024 15:17:05
Isn't 25% on any profit we make BlueNose.

We need cash in, doesn't suit us but will do well in a more confident possession based team.

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17 May 2024 16:11:13
75% of £20 million is still a good deal for us.

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17 May 2024 20:39:19
Both will be off as needs must we are deep in financial mess and as an ED says Evertons successive boards have been negligent (my word not ED's) in not managing overspends. We are a Premiership side with supposedly Premiership facilities, Academy, youth sides etc! Surely a good Head Coach listens to each Coach of U18, 23, reserves etc!

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17 May 2024 21:38:03
Personally as much as I don't want to see him go, I think selling branthwaite is the only way we avoid another ffp penalty. Because whatever we sell him for is basically pure profit.

Question really needs to be, would you rather have Branthwaite and a 4pt deduction or lose Branthwaite. To be honest I'd probably take the 4pts to keep him.

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18 May 2024 07:26:23
I would as well Efcone. But, as we know there are no set rules for point deductions Vs over spend. I think the prem would say you're still taking the piss and had the opportunity to balance the books but chose not too and hit us with a massive deduction.

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16 May 2024 16:46:36
Any truth in the report Man Utd could move to Goodison while their ground gets a redevelopment?

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17 May 2024 08:20:34
It would be better for their home supporters if they played at Spurs ground.

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17 May 2024 08:44:50
Love it BB😂👍💙.

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16 May 2024 14:53:23
Just an appreciation post to say what a brilliant player Idrissa Gana Gueye is for this football club.

For too long, SOME supporters have dug Idrissa out and slagged his game off to high heaven. I think it is time that those people start appreciating what a player this man is and how important he is to this team.

There are complaints that he "constantly" gives the ball away and can't pass a ball. Personally I think he has been incorrectly judged by the howler he gave away at Leicester and Arsenal and that has stained peoples perception of him because those mistakes ultimately cost us goals.

It is an absolute myth that he can't pass. The lad boasts an 84% pass completion, playing in the centre of the park, not sat knocking it round sideways at the back. He has completed 725 out of 858 passes this season, doesn't sound too shabby to me.

Even if his passing was as bad as some like to make out, what he offers out of possession cannot be replicated by ANYBODY else in this squad. The man is 34 and he is still an absolute animal in intercepting the ball and stealing it away from opponents. The midfield looks completely disjointed without him, evident more than ever in the obliteration by Chelsea this season, not a chance that would have happened had he been on the field.

It is not a coincidence that our two best runs this season are when Idrissa is in the middle of the park.

To top it all off, the lad has put up his best goal scoring season to date and what massive goals they were. A winner against Crystal Palace away, a goal against Forest to get us on our way to 3 points against a relegation rival and another winner against Brentford to move us above them in the table.

Although he didn't come up with a goal in the derby, he was the best player on the pitch by a country mile.

Take a bow Idrissa. I hope you get the extension that you so thoroughly deserve mate!

Up the Ev!

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16 May 2024 15:11:12
Good post mate he is one player I would keep with 2 or 3 others the rest can go we need new blood eh.

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16 May 2024 15:47:59
Player of the year needs to be offered another contract.

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16 May 2024 16:35:58
He has been great for the last 6 or so games.

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16 May 2024 17:53:12
So has the rest of the Team mate.

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16 May 2024 20:02:48
He’s just getting on Bluenose.

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16 May 2024 21:26:26
Undisputed fact BR but he is still comfortably our best midfielder, which I guess says more about this squad, than it does anything else mate.

I think he has definitely shown he can still reach the necessary level to compete in the PL and has earned a year extension. I think it would be prudent for us to keep him on as it would give us one less thing to worry about in terms of incomings.

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17 May 2024 08:24:08
Need to reduce team age and salary. Would help as a squad player, but not on his current salary. Oh and player of the season has to be Branthwaite, the season is more than six games.

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16 May 2024 11:49:34
Ed02 just a thought on 777 and basically bankrolling the stadium and other running cost, this I think is interest free. Could this also be a way around psr and help prevent further point deductions for this years accounts.

{Ed002's Note - 777 Partners are in very serious trouble now having lost control of Vasco da Gama, having screwed Standard Liege etc.. They leave Everton with a huge debt that the club cannot afford to pay. It is unrelated to P&S but we are very, very close to a crisis point with the late payment that is due to MSP Sports Capital. The only way forward is for the club to find a way to restructure about £590M of the debt and agree with the creditors some sort of plan where the club are able to service the debt. Right now the business is not sustainable and MSP could take control of the new stadium.}

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16 May 2024 19:00:56
That is when problems occur as every (stand by for chauvinist comment) good housewife knows. Unable to service debt, deficit grows. MSP should be allowed to come on board, 2 Evertonians connection, one a billionaire. Ed002 explained the situation well and with patience. Forgive me for being an imp but nobody has refuted a certain Russians continued involvement. As Ed says though (with far better language than I use now) the board fooked up, were negligent but still walked away with millions in their back pockets. Unfortunately those at the top in today's market never suffer the consequences of their incompetence. Always a fall guy is found.

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14 May 2024 16:50:55
WTF is wrong with Moshiri and/ or who is pulling his strings. According to Masters Moshiri has indicated he wants to continue talks with 777. Something isn't right about all of this.

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14 May 2024 19:31:17
Yeah it stinks, something is seriously not right about this.

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14 May 2024 19:51:38
May 31 st new date for 777 takeover according to reports.

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14 May 2024 19:52:39
Or to step away from the sensationalism. He has told them they have a little over 2 weeks to prove they can get it done or he ends their exclusivity. It really is the funny season 😂.

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14 May 2024 20:19:22
Someone's being paid off, he has extended the deadline again till the end of the month I think this maybe the third time the deadlines been extended. What is the point in setting a deadline in the first place.

{Ed025's Note - its all a bit underhand for my liking Shakey..

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14 May 2024 21:17:26
FBS yes mate just repeating what Masters reportedly told Parliament.

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14 May 2024 21:41:31
Moshiri has probably been promised a price from 777 that they can’t pay and no one else will match. He is likely wanting to recoup as much money as he can - I doubt he cares much for whoever takes over. The highest bidder wins.

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14 May 2024 22:32:50
Despite all his so called intentions, he only ever saw us a commodity he could buy and sell at a profit. I hope he ends up out of pocket big style.

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14 May 2024 23:41:30
"FM was expected to terminate the deal but it's now clear that hasn't happened as he is contractually committed to the end of this month before he can officially terminate the exclusivity period agreement with 777. The likely hood of 777 rescuing the deal are remote due to various legal problems that have arisen recently". Fear not this is just part of the process. Nothing to see here.

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15 May 2024 00:11:43
From what is being reported nothing has been extended with 777 as allegedly 31st May was always the deadline.

Sounds like the reporting regarding the extension could be PR spin from 777.

With all the negative stories around 777 no one in their right mind would extend the deal so I’m happy to believe it’s just clickbait and pr spin from 777.

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15 May 2024 03:16:57
I just hope that Moshiri and the other investors are working right now to have a plan in place for this, because we cannot have another bad window.

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15 May 2024 08:54:11
I've read the same, there is a time line when it can be cancelled and the end of the month it should be, hopefully ended and we can move on, my probelm is who is going to take us on and why would they with everything that's going on, how much dept we are in, what incentives would they have aparts from ripping us apart and selling us off piece by piece and then how does that help us, nobody in the right mind is buying us as we are, our owner needs to lower the price, give someone a chance to come in and make us a better club, as we are right now I just can't see how that can happen, I mean will one new stadium make that much money, if it can why haven't spurs or west ham been doing that with there new stadiums.

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15 May 2024 09:28:20
It was always the 31st May. We are on a runaway train, the tunnel is fast approaching and who knows what’s on the other side?

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15 May 2024 12:44:30
Reading between the lines and the constant sensationalist reporting surrounding our club, this is simply a deadline for 777 to prove they have the cash. This seems doubtful. The more promising reference in the reports is that other parties are lined up to step in. Let's hope this is true.

{Ed002's Note - The relevance of the date is nothing to do with having to complete the takeover - it is a date by which the debt to MSP must be paid else they will take control of the assets - the new stadium. 777 want two of the MSP investors to join their bid and ease some of the debt owed to MSP. They will trade shares in the club, the stadium and will let them have the two seats on the board promised to MSP. Rights and Media Funding blocked the prior attempt for MSP investment as the debt Everton owe to them is secured against other assets the club has (e.g. Goodison Park). 777 Partners have screwed Standard Liege and that should be enough for the Premier League, FA and the Financial Conduct Authority to reject them as owners. The problem Moshiri has is the size of the debts owed to 777 Partners now, not being able to pay the debts to MSP & Rights and Media Funding and where to get the money to complete the stadium. The other concern he has is the time it would take a new bidder to gain agreement from the PL, FA and FCA - hence wanting to push on with 777 Partners. The answer will perhaps be to agree with those owed money to restructure all of the debt in exchange for interest payments whilst the debts are cleared. This would likely involve selling the new stadium and renting it back.}

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15 May 2024 17:15:16
MSP would be a good call. Good post from ED002, well explained. I know it is probably the great unknown (never going to know) but can all Moshiris incompetence really be put down to his 'advisor (s) ', did a certain other individual really clear the scene after 2022.

{Ed002's Note - His neighbour in Monaco certainly advised on transfers. But those running the club on a day-by-day basis, rather than Moshiri, should have been understanding how serious the situation was. Moshiri looked for a quick sale or investment to head off a personal issue.}

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15 May 2024 18:08:23
Cheers Ed, doesn’t seem like any of this will be sorted quickly.

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15 May 2024 18:58:14
Only Everton can build a new stadium and not end up owning it! What is the point then as we get none of the financial benefits might as well stay in the old lady and let the new stadium owners do what they want with it as the rent will be another cost we don’t need when we already own a stadium with no cost rental cost associated! Least then we get to keep all Matchday income!

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15 May 2024 19:35:00
It is dropping to bits the cost of maintenance is prohibitive. The ground and owned surrounds will either be sold or assets seized by creditors (at a guess) .

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15 May 2024 23:39:33
Shouldn't have rebuffed the councils offer of funding for the build.

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16 May 2024 07:16:23
In hindsight it could have led to bigger problems FBS, given the Governments intervention in yet another Councils inability to deliver.

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12 May 2024 16:29:38
Been told we are wanting jack butland from rangers as pickers is wanted by Chelsea . why don't Chelsea get butland n leave pickers were he is cheating Chelsea need to be punished.

Believable1 0Unbelievable

12 May 2024 21:58:34
I think it's just clickbait nonsense. We all love Pickford of course, and yes he'd be great for Chelsea if he was there. But they have a very good keeper in Dorde Petrovic, only 24 so plenty of time to substantially improve. Robert Sanchez as a fantastic backup option, who is himself only 26. It makes no sense at all to ditch these 2 GKs for a 30 year old.

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13 May 2024 10:35:00
Not just any 30 year old though is it it's England's number 1.

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13 May 2024 15:26:49
If it was true, it would just be more evidence of a lack of planning and bad recruitment. He was available for free last season.

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10 May 2024 20:30:17
Evening Eds. I read somewhere that there had been discussions about creating a wages cap in the Prem. Do you think this will ever happen or is it all tosh?

{Ed002's Note - It is happening.}

Believable0 0Unbelievable

10 May 2024 20:37:16
Isn't that the very thing Jimmy railed against and to a for Bosman.

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10 May 2024 23:12:56
Get ready for huge win bonuses.

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10 May 2024 20:50:00
How do you think it will work Ed? I can’t see the likes of City not having a bench of players earning more than the whole of our first team….

{Ed002's Note - Pl are looking to align with the UEFA approach limiting clubs to spending 70% of their revenue on squad costs - transfers, wages and agents' fees - but initially limiting club not playing in Europe to spending 85% of their revenue on squad costs.}

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11 May 2024 11:59:23
That wouldn't stand up to a Bosman style legal challenge.

{Ed001's Note - yes it would. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. There is nothing in that blocking a player from working like the old transfer system did. Why make a statement like that, when it is clear you know less than zero about it?}

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11 May 2024 13:33:52
Bosman didn't/ doesn't work like that TL. I would refer it more to dear old Jimmy Hill, lauded for his efforts but what a can of worms that opened. My beef has always been and is with agents and the seeming stranglehold they have on the professional game. Mind you at least the Prem stayed/ stays away from 3rd Party. I would concentrate your worries more on the utter devastation Moshiris misguided trust
and naivety has wrought on our historical Club.

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11 May 2024 16:44:23
My works has a car share scheme and a cycle to work scheme were we get bonuses. could they implement a scoring goal clean sheet assists etc sort of scheme to the players contracts ie just say DCL was on £70 grand a week but got £10 grand a goal and same for defender's for clean sheets and stuff like that or could that not happen? Least they might try more not that they don't earn fortune's as it is and should try anyway 🤷.

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11 May 2024 17:07:20
Well bonus count as spend don't they. So it would count towards the 85% or 70% figure.

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11 May 2024 22:27:37
Not a clue just thought the clubs with money would do it to try and get round the pay cap somehow 🤔 l.

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11 May 2024 23:11:23
The PFA are considering their position over this as it may create a hard cap on player wages. Similar was proposed and scrapped by the EFL. You also have a few clubs voting against the system, one being Man City who the PL are scared off. Intentionally or inadvertently you can't cap a players salary earning power.

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12 May 2024 13:54:23
Thanks for the reply Ed. I assume the reason for the changes is to ensure clubs are more sustainable.

Do you think doing this will just make the top 6 stronger and move further away towards the Euro super league?

{Ed002's Note - It is not a cap on pay but aligning with UEFA to ensure clubs spend within their means. It means clubs will look to significant increases in sponsorship - with one pal club already negotiating deals for next summer which will bring a potentially huge increase for them.}

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10 May 2024 20:29:30
With 777 allegedly calling in restructuring experts, is this the start of possible asset stripping?

{Ed002's Note - If that is the case Everton need to step away immediately. There is a fix, but it will be hard work.}

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10 May 2024 20:39:33
How can that happen ED (the step away) ! I agree with you by the way.

{Ed002's Note - The restructuring is not of Everton.}

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10 May 2024 20:39:36
Thanks for that ed. I wish you could influence Mr Morshiri.

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09 May 2024 15:23:02
Now reports saying the are at least four new lots of iUS investors plus a Quatar one good times ahead, just have some faith this will turn out alright for us.

Believable10 0Unbelievable

09 May 2024 16:31:51
Sounds more like Vultures circling than good times ahead, but as always GB I admire your eternal optimism and wish I saw the world through your eyes😂.

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09 May 2024 16:40:48
So many posters on here kept saying we were going down but we didn’t Sean managed with three games in hand and a good haul of points, so it not all bad news someone will come in and take us over and we begin again buddy, no point being negative all the time this is Everton after all.

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10 May 2024 00:39:19
Hope that you are correct GB. My biggest fear is that the stadium will not belong to the club and any revenues from other events at the stadium will benefit others.
We need new owners who want the club to get back to being among the elite, who get financially rewarded because the club is doing well, not using it as a cash-cow.
No doubt the players and Sean have done well to keep us in the premiership regardless of the eight point deduction but in the future I want us to be better run financially and also more attractive to watch. For us to succeed in the future we have to attract young supporters and that will only be possible if they see us playing exciting and attractive football. Getting rid of the over 30 brigade and bringing on young talent is the way forward and I am not sure your mate Sean is the right man for that task.

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10 May 2024 14:24:46
He isn't. He does not trust young players.

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10 May 2024 14:42:15
I think he will BlueMike, really good article on Thewll and Sean and what will happen this summer, yes there will be sales and there has to be, the Club is the main thing here, obviously there will not be loads of cash but there will be some, it’s going to be a case of the loan market and scowering the lower leagues, at the end of the day we have Sean to thank for keeping us up and a big thanks goes to him, hopefully 777 will fall through and different investors can be found, it not all doom nd gloom mate imagine if we had gone down, but we didn’t so can do something about it.

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10 May 2024 15:09:12
Big thanks to Dyche! Try thanking the fans who turned up home and away geeing up the players. Thank the players who put the effort in to get us over the line. Thank three other clubs for being worse than us. Thank Dyche when he fekks off.

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10 May 2024 15:38:10
Kept us up mate and for that I happy, was never going to be pretty now we move on to the next chapter, seems a couple on here would have been happy to go down but play nice footy gmmmm.

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10 May 2024 19:49:37
Right - I give up. I’m joining GB and casting aside my doubts and negativity. Fed up of all this negativity I keep reading and feeling…

Everything is going to be alright! We have been through all this negativity before and we have been fine. We found one billionaire out of the blue and I’m sure we will find another. Why bother being downbeat? I’m going to stick d ST one money on 3-0 to us tomorrow. COYB.

{Ed025's Note - love it BR..

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10 May 2024 20:31:19
If you can’t beat them, join them Ed. There’s a lot worse things in life.

{Ed025's Note - i could not agree more BR..

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09 May 2024 15:09:42
According to the bobble we have offered Seamus a 1 year extension.

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09 May 2024 09:27:51
Reports in the Telegrapth that MSP are back in to buy Everton with FM getting cold feet with 777. if true surely good news?

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09 May 2024 10:40:26
Anyone but 777 would be good news IMO.

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09 May 2024 13:06:45
Ed's, do you know much about MSP? Would they be "decent" owners or do they come with their problems as well. I only ask as you were so vocal from the start to avoid 777 like the plague. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I think that MSP would be fine owners, or at least investors. Originally they only wanted 25%. There is a chance that they could take shares in the stadium but the problem previously was the debt owed to Rights and Media Funding Limited (again over £200M) who blocked the move as they wanted the protection to be allowed to sell the stadium to a third party if the debt was not serviced. They would need persuading if MSP are back involved. And theu there is another £200M owed to 777 Partners now.}

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09 May 2024 18:20:40
Thank you for the insight Ed.

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