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21 Feb 2024 15:38:20
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01 Feb 2024 20:05:43
Let's hope Robin Rabinowski KC is a half decent lawyer and get our points deduction thrown out, hearing will be concluded tomorrow.

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01 Feb 2024 22:33:12
We should be paying for expensive accountants not lawyers.

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02 Feb 2024 12:36:12
We needed them 5/ 6 years ago TA, now we need the lawyers and a slice of luck (which is long overdue)

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02 Feb 2024 14:05:01
Accountants can't manipulate facts or laws as well as lawyers. We need this guy to give an oscar winning performance now.

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02 Feb 2024 16:29:56
For sure accountants are no the answer at this stage.

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02 Feb 2024 17:19:16
It is/ was an uphill battle. If they give points back then where does that put the second charge.

{Ed025's Note - very much in play i would imagine Capone..

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02 Feb 2024 17:55:53
Lawyers to put out fires. Accountants to stop them from lighting in the first place. I get your points All, about what we need right now and I agree. But we’re doing this the wrong way and need to look at the cause to stop the effect.

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02 Feb 2024 18:36:54
Well the causes have gone TA, either in death, resigned, or one in particular, washed his hands of us. I guess at best, we fans can only learn from what happened and, hope we can influence the next lot in to do different. Do you think it's all too late?

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02 Feb 2024 19:16:55
I’d rather they fixed the effect for now.

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02 Feb 2024 19:40:14
Isn't Moshri an accountant.

{Ed025's Note - i think your getting confused with idiot mate.. :)

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02 Feb 2024 20:03:51
Ha ha good one ed and spot on.

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01 Feb 2024 20:15:16
Laurence mate.

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03 Feb 2024 06:56:58
Not at all Nick. I’m not too optimistic tbh but never too late.

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03 Feb 2024 20:11:21
Same here TA. Even if defeat stares me in the face I still have hope something will happen. It defines being an Evertonians.

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05 Feb 2024 19:11:03
Robin Rabinowiski Lol! Laurence Rabinowitz and he is a KC not a lawyer. Hope he is as good as they say he is!

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01 Feb 2024 14:59:42
Holgate going to Sheffield. atleast some money coming in. But Sad state of affairs if reports are true that we can't even afford a loan fee for anyone . Hard to believe this great club has fallen so far. Coyb.

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01 Feb 2024 18:17:06
Imagine the uproar if he does well for them and they stay up at our expense 😳.

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01 Feb 2024 19:35:15
Have you been drinking GD.

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01 Feb 2024 21:03:54
At least their goals against will sky rocket #agentholgate.

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02 Feb 2024 17:22:22
I think Sheff Utd have gone. We need to find a way of dragging Luton back and Notts under pressure. We have no choice now but Dyche to me is becoming the same as at Burnley.

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31 Jan 2024 21:08:26
The bobble saying we’ve rejected a bid for Godfrey from AC Milan.

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31 Jan 2024 21:59:15
Reading Sheff Utd want Holgate. Happy days if that’s true. Hoping for a loan to come in, preferably a playmaker, when Doucoure isn’t in that role we can’t score and I can’t see us bringing in another striker after buying Beto.

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31 Jan 2024 22:33:39
Gibbo, hopefully we haven't lost the receipt for Beto. 25m is looking like we've had our pants pulled down yet again.

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01 Feb 2024 07:26:49
Yeah, I like the guy, he clearly cares a lot (especially with his reaction at the end of the Fulham game, looked gutted) . But he can’t control and I’m not sure 10 minutes per game will give him the match sharpness to finish those chances. I feel his game is playing on the shoulder of the defender and picking up those passes that get put into the channels between defenders (which never come) . All he gets is balls hoofed up to him. We’re crying out for a midfielder who can pick a pass.

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01 Feb 2024 07:53:31
No one no one out is my prediction.

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01 Feb 2024 07:59:43
Does Holgate need a lift?

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01 Feb 2024 08:43:49
Wouldn’t give up on Beto.
Hasn’t had a lot of minutes and takes a while to settle into a new country and league.
I’m fairly confident we’ll see much improved performances from him next season - just hope we’re still in the premier league.

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01 Feb 2024 11:38:59
Each to their own opinion but unless you have a change of pace, can control a ball, head a ball, especially from 2 yards out, unchallenged with an open goal begging, you will never cut it in the EPL.

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01 Feb 2024 13:03:55
Every great striker misses goals from 2yds out at sometime. Even average ones too.

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01 Feb 2024 15:50:41
So Fancy would you rather have Nunez over Beto?

Nunez is fast, got decent control and can head a ball all things you require.

Yet he had 11 shots the other night, 5 on target, hit the woodwork 4 times, missed a penalty and didn’t score a single goal in the game.

I’d stick with Beto.

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01 Feb 2024 16:21:59
I appreciate no striker, whatever their ability, will score everything time but, as I said FBS each to their own but I formed my opinion early doors, with regard to Beto, and I’ve seen nothing to change my mind. There are much better players available for £25m.

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01 Feb 2024 16:29:22
In a heartbeat, Nunez carries a threat with his pace and skill, which brings other players into play, and yes he may have missed a lot of chances but remind me has he scored more goals than Beto, Harrison, McNeill and DCL combined this season?

{Ed025's Note - he is a very dangerous player Fancy, (especially if your in the stands behind the goal lol), frightens the life out of the defenders he faces mate and i would take him in a heartbeat..

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01 Feb 2024 16:42:00
Agree with FS, I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest Beto will turn it around. Obviously, a great forward can miss from yards out but they also score some goals around bad misses. Beto puts the effort in but doesn't look like he has the ability to play at this level. 25m wasted at a time when every penny counts. I hope he proves me wrong but the evidence so far suggests otherwise.

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28 Jan 2024 18:06:16
Would Benrahma be any good for us, I see he is being linked.

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28 Jan 2024 22:24:13
Well he can pass a ball.

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29 Jan 2024 09:32:27
He's perfect for us. Fits the bill to a T. Not playing for his club hardly, surplus to requirements as his club have eyed up an exciting young player from elsewhere, yet still better than some of our players. But is he prepared to sit on the bench til the 89th minute and then be told to make a difference when he comes on for injury time?

{Ed002's Note - Said Benrahma (W) Lyon want a loan to buy on the condition they avoid relegation. Marseille offer an option of an initial loan and an option to buy but they are far apart in price from West Ham and the lady from Marseille says that they will likely step away. Everton may ask for a loan. West Ham will speak to Emanalo as they already have a replacement lined up.}

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29 Jan 2024 11:19:52
How would we get him in on loan?
Thought we’d used all our loan allocations?

{Ed002's Note - Danjuma will depart and make way.}

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29 Jan 2024 16:37:51
Thanks Ed that clears that up.

Danjuma has been a strange one for us, previously about to sign then at last minute joined spurs - didn’t do amazing there.
Then next window we signed him and he’s struggled for minutes and when given a chance not really taken it.

Hopefully if he does leave we then use that loan spot for a decent player that wants to join us and help in the relegation battle rather than just pick up a pay cheque 🤞.

{Ed002's Note - Arnaut Danjuma (W) His agent and Villareal want him out of his loan at Everton early with Lyon talking to his club. Player is very unhappy being a bit part player only.}

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29 Jan 2024 17:14:37
Nothing strange. He's far from good enough and the warning signs were always there and his loan has proven to be unremarkable as is his ability. Only thing strange was we went back in for him.

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29 Jan 2024 22:38:30
Spot on FBS.

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31 Jan 2024 08:13:42
If he got injured last night it looks as if we will be stuck with him and no replacement loan. He had a good chance to shine last night and did nothing.

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24 Jan 2024 17:18:04
Fabrizio Romano tweeted.

"Genoa are considering move for Ben Godfrey from Everton — could be an option via 777 connection.

Discussions taking place but there are more clubs interested in Godfrey. "

Then he's also tweeted this follow up.

"More on Ben Godfrey. Deal with Genoa not easy despite interest and direct talks as there are more clubs in the race.

EFC believe there are better proposals incoming for Godfrey in the next days…"

Possibly losing Godfrey and Doucoure? We'll have to wait and see what happens.

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25 Jan 2024 22:32:05
Need to make sure we have players lined up to replace them otherwise we’ll be wheeling out the catering staff if we have any more injuries.

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28 Jan 2024 23:31:10
Could they have BEAN any worse than yesterday.

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31 Jan 2024 08:14:31
Personally I wouldn't get rid of Godfrey. Can play anywhere in the back line and I think he is a better RB than Patterson.

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22 Jan 2024 15:49:19
With the rumours about doucoure possibly being sold. I know he's been an important player for us but what price would they realistically be happy with
£15m
20m
25 etc.

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know - perhaps £15M or so.}

Believable1 0Unbelievable

22 Jan 2024 18:40:05
20m for a 31 year old would be decent business.

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24 Jan 2024 10:14:40
Wouldn't sell him we can't afford to he our most important player reason our results so much better when he plays.

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27 Jan 2024 10:15:25
Obsession with age. 31 is not even peak in a 'normal' 31 year old. These players have nutritional, physical coaches and doctors.

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20 Jan 2024 16:44:41
So rumours are Gerrard wants Doucoure to replace Henderson at Al-ettifaq.
Bit torn on this one to be honest. I mean yes he's been one of our better players, but he's 31 now and our highest earner. Think if they made a good offer then we would have to let him go.

{Ed002's Note - An approach has been made and it would give the club some funds to try and add to the squad. Is he fit right now.

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20 Jan 2024 17:16:47
He had a hamstring injury but did play against Villa. didn’t play in the cup game but that might have been precautionary.
It would make sense if it was a reasonable offer, because as you say would help invest in the squad, and would be another big wage off the books.

{Ed002's Note - Exactly.}

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20 Jan 2024 19:25:50
He’s been good for us but at 31 if the offer was right then cash in by all means, we need finances.

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20 Jan 2024 19:36:41
No far to valuable to us than cash. Onana, Keane, Pickford that is tge way to go.

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20 Jan 2024 20:02:25
Seriously you would rather let a young player with huge potential go, than a 31 year old who is on massive wages.

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20 Jan 2024 20:03:25
Not for me we are in dire straits, Keane yes and Onana but keep Jordan.

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20 Jan 2024 20:37:02
Think GB the likes of Eds' (across many sites) are outside of our emotion.

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20 Jan 2024 21:20:17
Game of opinion HK mate.

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20 Jan 2024 21:42:55
We have to move forward by signing younger players on lower wages. He has been one of our better players this season, but I wouldn’t say he’s irreplaceable, and it we get a silly offer I’d take it.

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20 Jan 2024 21:54:27
We are but one of many football sites across this local. ED's contribute many. I dare not say more. No fing emojis.

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20 Jan 2024 21:56:17
Guernsey of course. Those EDs see loads, I have also looked.

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20 Jan 2024 23:16:02
What don’t you get about reducing the wage bill? Dacoure is our top earner . And as it’s already been stated he is not irreplaceable.

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20 Jan 2024 23:19:45
Think its a no brainer 31 years old i imagine he's on a high wage aswell and as ed 002 stated could give us funds to replace him with a younger player question is if we do sell where would we begin to look championship be good start also start sending are scouts ie Austria brazil denmark always a hidden gem somewhere just got to find them.

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21 Jan 2024 00:00:56
What do you not understand about our current situation? The guy is 31, yes he's had a reasonable season so far, but his passing is shocking and he is not irreplaceable.
We have to reduce the wage bill whether we like that or not, and this guy is a top earner. If we get a decent offer then he has to go. As for Keane, well we haven't sold him because nobody wants him.

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21 Jan 2024 09:22:09
If the money is right then he would have to be sold. It's time players in our squad earned their high wages and stepped up. Could Gomes, with a runof games, be worthy of no10 roll? Could it be time for young Sean McAllister to step into 1st team squad (plays no10 roll very well) ?, or time to play 2 up top? Join us next week for another episode of Everton Football Club ;)

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20 Jan 2024 19:16:49
Yes a big wage but a valuable player. Onana and Keane would make more sense.

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21 Jan 2024 11:09:21
How in anyway would it make more sense? Have you not got it that we can't be paying 31 year old players 120k a week.

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21 Jan 2024 12:18:26
Crazy Brass does not make any sense at all eh.

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21 Jan 2024 15:05:09
Does everyone realise he is out only goal scorer. Who cares how old he is? Does more than onana when he’s having a bad day and onana plays the best he ever has! Onana should go for me as on the same if not bigger wages and will bring in a bigger fee. Can’t be that hard to find another midfielder who get no goals or assists and barely break up play, let just hope when we find him we don’t waste another £30m!

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21 Jan 2024 16:13:42
Onana is not earning anywhere near what Doucoure is earning. Onana 22, Doucoure 31. Can’t be that hard to find a No10 who can’t pass a ball.

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21 Jan 2024 16:16:44
Don’t want to sell, however with the mess we’re in we have to get £50m in and another big wage off the books.
Unfortunately this is where we are at as a football club at the moment.
🥲.

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21 Jan 2024 20:06:25
I understand the financial sense however we don't look like scoring if he is not playing behind our lone striker.

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21 Jan 2024 22:29:50
Then play two strikers.

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22 Jan 2024 09:07:46
Exactly Woburn, our midfield don't score apart from Doucoure, DCL doesn't score in this system. If Doucoure goes then play beto alongside DCL. We need goals and an extra striker on pitch is better than a goal shy midfielder.

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22 Jan 2024 09:27:52
Decoure in the glue holding the team together look at the win ratio with him and without him in the team. He is also one of SDs go to men who can play a full 90+ mins and we all know how well SD likes to use his subs. Selling Decoure has major positives helps get us out of some of our financial issues but at what cost?

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23 Jan 2024 16:47:09
Might not have a choice.

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24 Jan 2024 13:27:26
I can only assume anyone saying get rid of doucs for 15m doesn't actually watch the games. We've won 1 game without doucoure under dyche and that was villa in the cup just gone.

You lot seriously want to sell a player that we have not won a league game without?

We will lose a hell of a lot more than 15m plus his wages if we get relegated.

He's 31 but so what? He is buy far our most important player.

I'd rather sell onana, he wants a bigger club and has a much higher value and is not as important to the team (now before you all jump on me here, I'm not saying he is not an important player, but we've won games without him) . It just makes more sense.

Obviously I don't want to get rid of anyone who makes the first 11, but doesn't look like we have a choice.

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18 Jan 2024 17:43:44
The Mail now saying we could be hit with a third offence, not good news at all.

{Ed025's Note - we seem to have more offences against us than the post office GB.. :)

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18 Jan 2024 17:56:14
This is weird. I have not believed in witch hunts or conspiracy but if true just wtf is going on. A thought are the Prem (CEO) trying to influence the appeal outcome. Also if so perhaps it may be time to follow ED25's (tongue in cheek) 'down tools'.

{Ed025's Note - dont get me wrong HK we did deserve punishment as a club, well as a club run by knob heads, but its going beyond a joke now mate, not only do they want us to suffer the death of a thousand cuts...they want to rub us in salt as well, next game we should just wave white flags and have done with it..

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18 Jan 2024 18:29:50
Baffles me Ed mate how do the rags get hold of this stuff before anyone else, someone out there definitely doesn’t like us.

{Ed025's Note - its probably a guess i would think GB based on sensationalism, but it would not surprise me mate..

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18 Jan 2024 20:41:05
Time to call in the Secret Squirrel Squad then.

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18 Jan 2024 20:58:01
Think it was the Talk Sport pundits pre kick off last night debating the issues. One said that the way the rules are we could end up being clobbered year after year here for as many as 6 years! As well as losing best players every window. Not helpful being unable to remember more of the context but it was something along the lines of this ffp PSR whatever being a royal shambles and that it does everything but help protect clubs, it does just the opposite in the main. An example they used was if they wanted to buy Peterborough and turn them into a CL team with a unlimited Billionaires cash injection. They couldn't ever achieve it. They made the point that countless sides would benefit financially from transfers and the money being thrown around unlike the current system that is clearly only beneficial to the really big giants. And as silly as that example was it just goes to show how unfair this system is and that if the term "rigged" for the top sides is wrong. Well it seems that way doesn't it? As they said, it needs to be a aggregate % of a clubs turn over to be fair not a same sum for all.

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19 Jan 2024 08:59:19
GB You breach the PSR over three years so it may well be the case we get another breach next year. If they change the PRS I would imagine this will be looked at so I'm not worried.

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19 Jan 2024 09:11:49
The report said £85 million for the 2022/ 23, way over my head mate.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained this repeatedly. I am not sure why some of you seem surprised by it.}

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19 Jan 2024 10:04:01
Hi Ed002 do you know if the submitted club PSR accounts for the period to 2023 to the PL are in the public domain?

{Ed002's Note - None of the accounts submitted for the purposes of FFP are in the public domain.}

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19 Jan 2024 12:11:38
Ex CEO now saying we could get the point’s deduction wiped off, all just lazy journalism I reckon.

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19 Jan 2024 15:29:52
So if the reports are to be believed then the reported must have seen the PSR accounts? If as ed002 says the reports are not in the public domain and I have no reason to doubt this, then we can assume the reports are rubbish.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is reasonably easy to determine that is possible. You need to move on from discussing matters that are not undrstood.}

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19 Jan 2024 18:54:45
So how can they easily determine that EFC have spent £85M between the period of the last recorded accounts and the accounting information that the sent to the PL if the accounts are not in the public domain.

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19 Jan 2024 21:25:47
The Club continue to outlay 90 percent of income (I assume including loans) on wages and apparently 22/ 23 as well. Add in leaks and whispers which unless you are genuinely a secret squirrel (GB) always happens to suit.

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19 Jan 2024 23:12:57
So the accounts that are submitted are not in the public domain. I take it your not public person.

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20 Jan 2024 10:31:38
The Mail revel in having a pop. They are very good at putting two and two together and getting whatever number they think sells a story.

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20 Jan 2024 21:57:50
In the same season!

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20 Jan 2024 22:37:03
If they are continuing to spend 90 percent of income *I presume Club income includimg loans* then yeah that could be a good assumption. Plus unless it is a genuine 'secret squirrel organisation' (Guernsey Blue) , there are always leaks and whispers.

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18 Jan 2024 16:00:22
"Everton were given the very distinct impression that the cost of interest on loans to build their Bramley Moore Dock Stadium would be excluded from sustainability considerations, just like City's.
They argued that six other clubs had been able to keep them out of the financial calculation and that this was an investment in the long-term future of a club and its city.
The Premier League agreed. Last week's independent commission report, which ruled against Everton, relates precisely when - January 14, 2021 - in black and white, in points 26 and 27 of its findings.
Yet read on a further two pages, to points 33 and 34 of the report, and you see the picture changing. It relates how a call, in December 2022, from the Premier League to Katie Charles, Everton's director of legal services, informed the club that a subsequent stadium interest payment would count towards the losses" and "the rules had been changed, mid-process. ".

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18 Jan 2024 20:54:14
Corruption from top to bottom.

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19 Jan 2024 00:02:53
It isn't corrupt glt59. Probably ill thought out or trying to show they are capable of self Governance without the need of a Gov appointed regulator.

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16 Jan 2024 20:54:44
Well no doubt we will receive a second points deduction, and this time it will be a larger one as it's a second offence.

So for the first time in my 67 years Everton will be relegated.

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16 Jan 2024 22:43:24
I think there’s a long way to go with this one, and a few twists and turns. The court of public opinion may have an impact yet. Stay strong, support the lads, all we can do.

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17 Jan 2024 09:14:00
We haven’t resolved the first one yet. Let’s just stay positive and see what happens.

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17 Jan 2024 15:38:32
Coming up to 75 Lhr mate so I certainly know how you feel, but I think as Woburn says above we have to keep positive and continue to back Sean and the Team, there will be many ups and downs in the coming months but hey we are Everton so let’s stay positive we can’t do anything with the FFP, so the old saying comes to mind where there’s life there’s hope buddy.

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17 Jan 2024 16:54:55
You lot are just babies. I was 11 when we were relegate. Very dramatic for a young kid. At 84 I don't want to go through that experience again.

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17 Jan 2024 18:07:16
Some going that over 200 years between the three of us, but it’s worth eh.

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17 Jan 2024 19:47:19
Yes GB a lot of happy memories though and hopefully some in the near future.

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18 Jan 2024 12:24:56
we've had good times though :)

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19 Jan 2024 14:36:48
That was BB which is a long time ago, getting on for 30 years.

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12 Jan 2024 15:15:57
With loan signings like Harrison and danjuma. Are the parent club allowed to recall them at anytime they want regardless if the other club want to keep them and vice versa about cancelling a loan player because they aren't good enough wrong atti6etc or does it have to be a mutual agreement?

{Ed002's Note - It depends on the contract.}

Believable0 0Unbelievable

12 Jan 2024 18:11:52
I think I'm right in saying that if we have paid club a loan fee then the parent club has no say on recall.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

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13 Jan 2024 08:01:23
It is all to do with the terms of the deal, the two clubs can negotiate whether to have a clause in the contract that allows the parent club to recall the player.

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13 Jan 2024 13:32:04
Ah OK Ed002. If we paid a fee to a club and they recalled player, would the club have to pay some of the fee back? Or is it not as straight forward as that?

{Ed002's Note - it does not work like that.}

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14 Jan 2024 09:40:14
Ah OK. Cheers for reply Ed002.

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14 Jan 2024 12:46:11
if its specific to Danjuma we have a big say in what happens to him as we paid 3.5 million for his loan and that would need to be negotiated as that was for a full season. El bobble has said his parent club hasn't been in touch regarding Danjuma and he will stay with Everton for the full season, Danjuma wants minutes which is understandable and Dyche has said he will get some but its then up to the player to prove he can play in a Dyche system.

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14 Jan 2024 17:34:35
Danjuma isn’t the answer, Spurs already figured that out.

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