Everton banter 3

20 Jun 2024 07:39:11
{Ed's Note - DAISYHAMMER has posted a new article entitled, West Ham's Season's Ticket Debacle

19 Jun 2024 20:20:35
Villa look to be signing Maatsen from Chelsea, a left back. Wonder if Digne would come back?

19 Jun 2024 21:17:11
Dobbin off to Villa. Digne would be on twice as much as Myko and too old now. Would we want him on the books at £100k a week?

19 Jun 2024 15:38:33
Always makes me laugh when a buying club think they can dictate the price of a player to a selling club.

Funnily enough, it always seems to be one of the "big clubs" that fall guilty of it.

19 Jun 2024 16:26:43
Same as that mate.

19 Jun 2024 18:58:25
Pay what he's worth or jog on. sick of us being ripped off in the transfer market.

19 Jun 2024 21:09:13
Exactly lads. “Man Utd tell Everton to get realistic or they will walk away”.

Walk on then you little rats. If you don’t feel as if the fee we are looking for represents value then look elsewhere. If they sign him, he strengthens them and dramatically weakens us.

Perhaps the most annoying thing is that clubs have no issue paying the same type of fees for players who have had one good season in farmers leagues e.g Portugal. Yet JB has been one of the best centre backs in the toughest league in the world. He is 21, big, strong, fast and both footed and they want to pay peanuts. It’s laughable.

19 Jun 2024 21:36:57
All true& I agree BlueNose. fear this is going to end with Jarrad playing up and forcing a move, leaving us not getting a our full valuation.

{Ed025's Note - apparently he really wants the move to United mate..

19 Jun 2024 21:48:45
If so Ed, he is going. Thought he would realistically go, as been said be some middle ground. £55million or so.

{Ed025's Note - i imagine it will end up around that figure Mocker..

19 Jun 2024 21:55:57
Good return and needed but yeah does feel like we are been short changed.

Like the lad we are linked to Greaves from Hull but big shoes to fill, think Tarks can get the best out of partner whoever he is, did it with Ben Mee at Burnley too.

19 Jun 2024 23:02:59
I love him lads and think he is top quality and he will only get better but if he wants to go, I can’t begrudge him of it.

Happy for him to go but if we don’t get full value for him, then I think it’s a disgrace and shows we are still a naive operator in the market, especially when you look at the fees paid for Fontana, cucurella, etc.

I would say to him, look, you can go if it is what you want but do you think you are one of the best young prospects in world football and when he turns around and says yes, I would say, ok, then we will get a few that is reflective of that or you aren’t going.

He is contracted for a few years yet. One more season with us bossing it is only going to make his options better. We brought him from Carlisle and took a chance on him when nobody else did. I think he owes us a decent fee if he wants to go. He is 21 and another season cutting his teeth will do him no harm. It is time to put the club first.

{Ed025's Note - he will be on far more lucrative wages with United than he will ever be with us BN, plus all the trappings of fame and sponsorship deals that comes with signing for the likes of them, its modern day football im afraid mate..

20 Jun 2024 06:12:54
Don’t forget Bluenose: we need the money from his sale. He won’t have much of a say in the price of the sale, just that he can be sold and that will help us.

20 Jun 2024 06:50:19
Yeah like him to stick with us BlueNose for another season or 2 but you can't blame the lad, really hope this doesn't play our in public. As for owing us, I get what you mean but he doesn't really does he it could be a 5000% profit on the lad after giving us a stellar season last season, only thing I begrudge is it's Utd and as rightly already stated the fees paid elsewhere for players of seemingly less standard with the fact Utd very publicly are known to have such vast debt along with us yet they will spend big again and in this case perhaps not the full market value, just doesn't seem right.

20 Jun 2024 12:27:53
Not a bad return considering a small section of fans were writing him off last season after his psv loan. Take the money and run.

20 Jun 2024 13:28:52
Remember if we end up with £55m, £8.25m will be going to Carlisle so we net £46.75m.
not a bad return although I'd love him to stay for one more season.

19 Jun 2024 13:52:22
Being reported time frame for our takeover will be one, onto as opposed to the 9 that 777 had, can't come quick enough .

19 Jun 2024 14:52:54
Month.

18 Jun 2024 10:47:16
What have we done to the Premier league we ask for the last game of the season to be played at the old lady, but no let's bugger them up and have the last game away on the south coast.

18 Jun 2024 11:25:05
Also potentially day after cup final too! In the unlikely event we got to final we would need to play midweek on a Tuesday, Wednesday. ??.

18 Jun 2024 11:30:54
i did not know that newcastle was on the south coast!

18 Jun 2024 12:26:21
Think the request was for us to play our last game a week before the end of the season. This was granted. So we now play Southampton at home (our last home game) , then Newcastle away is our last game of the season.

18 Jun 2024 12:30:37
The club asked for it so the last game at Goodison gets the coverage it deserves rather than lost in all the other end of season relegation and top four positions news . There’s a piece in the echo .
It does kind of make sense.

18 Jun 2024 11:21:59
That's the opposite to what the Echo is reporting.

18 Jun 2024 15:22:13
We asked for our last game not to be at home. The prem agreed, simple.

18 Jun 2024 22:22:15
None story this one. Journalists spinning to get a story.

17 Jun 2024 12:27:30
Dan Freidkin given an outline of what he intends to do at Everton when he takes over, excellent read just the guy we need.

17 Jun 2024 13:14:12
I think outline is just a rehashing of what he said when he took over at Roma, GB? Could be wrong, but I don’t think he’s come out and spoken about Everton yet.

{Ed002's Note - It is simply a statement he made in 2020.}

17 Jun 2024 13:32:46
You mean the regurgitated interview he gave when took over Roma? What? 4 years ago? The one that read like a brown-nose match program blurb?

17 Jun 2024 13:34:40
I don't think he has, this is yet more cheeky journos twisting things. This is his outline of what he intended when he took over Roma - don't think anything has been said about Everton
This was 4 years ago, a lot may have changed since then.

17 Jun 2024 13:47:52
Just what we have been waiting for then Ed, the three main issues to start with he said are get us up the table, be truthful to the fans and run the Club honestly, can’t ask for more than that mate.

{Ed025's Note - if it comes to fruition GB that would be great, i have to be honest though i dont know enough them to declare them as our saviours just yet mate, so i will be sitting on the fence for now and biding my time..

17 Jun 2024 14:14:42
Roma have done well since he’s been involved mate.

{Ed025's Note - they have apparently GB, im just not sure on this multi club ownership though mate, but maybe im a dinosaur.. :)

17 Jun 2024 14:37:16
A lot are owned in this manner with no probs mate.

{Ed025's Note - oh ok mate, i was just sceptical of if one club takes president over another or if one gets in trouble do the others suffer as well?, as i have said this lark goes right over my head im afraid..

17 Jun 2024 16:34:30
There are a lot of multi club ownership models out there but then I am sure there is still some hierarchy
Like if both qualify for the same tournament in Europe, who defers ??‍♂️
And we might all sit here thinking oh send him to Roma and let’s raid them for talent, is it really going to work like that?

Part of me wants it to work but then the major part of me wants owners like Bell and Downey who have the clubs interests and desire to restore the club but then that has drawbacks depending on who else is in the plan, if it’s MSP then it’s multi club again.

{Ed002's Note - The lower placed team drops down to a lower tier tournament.

Transfers between clubs najority owned by the same party have to be assessed to be of a fair value.}

16 Jun 2024 15:51:27
I know it’s good news we have a buyer, however people getting a little ahead of themselves.
The £540m is to buy Moshiri off £400m, the remaining money is for MSP, this leaving us still with massive interest payments on debts.
Yes we will likely restructure some debt, get some money in for sponsorship, but we still need to sell Branthwaite, Onana and get shut of other deadwood if we are to not have to worry about more points deductions next season.
I agree there’s some positivity but we’re not out of the woods yet.

16 Jun 2024 17:36:32
There is no scenario where the next owner comes in a "gets rid of the debt". We have just built a stadium that has cost over £750m. On top of that the short term loans we have been getting will have large interest rates attached to them.

So what we can expect is the new owner comes in and puts the debt we have over a long period of time at much lower rates that means we get the most out of the increased revenue from the stadium, sponsorship and future TV revenues.

Dan has done a really good job from when he came into Roma who were similar to us with debt and their own FFP issues, by all accounts (only what I've read and heard) . Again fans probably won't like him that much because they want someone to come in and spend £500m on 7 left wingers and 3 No10's and he tends to prefer player trading to raise funds (which is the norm for almost every club) . He ain't no Boehly.

Our goal should 100% be about Everton becoming self sustaining and not have to rely on outside help. It will take time but this new stadium and additional revenue streams when we are in there will have a huge impact which is already starting by our new kit deal.

It's going to be interesting to see how things develop but we all need to be patient and not expect things to change that much over the next 2 to 3 years. It will be tight and a lot of wheeling and dealing but hopefully without the issues of PSR.

16 Jun 2024 18:27:42
Don’t think anyone is getting ahead of themselves, just think they’re thankful a new owner with some understanding of how a football club should be run is taking over.
Most clubs are in debt it’s how you manage it that matters. Increased revenue and naming rights etc from the new stadium is a start. So let’s all be positive and stop worrying about the debt, and leave that to the people who know how to manage that.

{Ed025's Note - fair points Harlex..

16 Jun 2024 18:35:32
Brilliant post mate.

16 Jun 2024 19:34:26
Good post Harlex mate.

16 Jun 2024 21:06:29
Chicago Bears v 49ers, Ed Sheeran Concert, next Euros etc etc. going to take time but our income streams will grow. Let’s be patient and it will sort itself out. Let’s watch Pickford for now…….

16 Jun 2024 12:23:08
Excellent article from Sky re Dan Freidkin very detailed on how it now looks extremely likely he to be our next owner, hopefully should be completed in 4 to 6 weeks.

16 Jun 2024 12:07:42
I don’t think I’ve ever been so upset at a player passing as I have with Kevin Campbell. Maybe it’s because he’s of my generation, don’t know. This has hit quite hard though and by the outpouring of genuine, heartfelt grief through the football world - fans, players etc - can only be seen as a mark of a great man. RIP Super Kev.

16 Jun 2024 13:20:47
I agree Pierre, terrible news mate.

I remember walking through Manchester and Kev had come out of a building about 20 yards down the street and was walking towards me. I could tell it was him straight away.

As I walked past I simply said "Super Kev, how's things mate, are you well" whilst patting him on the shoulder, without either of us breaking a stride and carrying on to where we were heading.

His response "I'm alright geez, how are you fella".

I had always seen him as a genuine, nice. down to earth bloke and that short exchange confirmed everything.

He will be sorely missed. RIP Kevin.

16 Jun 2024 14:36:54
The good die young, a true club hero up there with dunc as a 90s legend without him where would we be today. RIP.

16 Jun 2024 15:42:05
The world needs more Kevin Campbell's. Nice guy always smiling, and always had time for the fans.
RIP Super kev?.

17 Jun 2024 15:10:26
Sad times. Not only a great player for us but a top bloke too. Not long listened to his two appearances on the under the cosh podcast, worth a watch/ listen if you get time.
RUP Super Kev, taken far too soon.

16 Jun 2024 07:32:16
Just curious if we could tell man utd we aren't selling Branthwaite. This season . Just offload the other deadwood. As Branthwaite hasn't exactly asked to leave yet! . Could we afford to do it?

16 Jun 2024 09:33:53
I am worried Jarrad will start playing up and have his head. turned. really hope he doesn't and those around him don't overly influence.

Utd know we are in limbo with fiances, probably be some middle ground met.

Would love for us to dig our heels in and get what we value the lad at, crazy amount of money but even in today's market could well prove to be a bargain.

16 Jun 2024 11:37:01
Utd don't have the money, that is why they are trying to get him on the cheap. They like a lot of others are sailing close to the wind with FFP.

16 Jun 2024 12:14:11
It makes the most sense to string the Branthwaite one out over the entire summer. If we forget the ffp PSR for a moment. Those kind of historical massive transfers usually end up last day for record breaking fees. I'm not saying he's going to break the world or British transfer records obviously but he may well be the most expensive for his age etc. it could be multiples of 10s of millions added. I'd think KT and the sales team will be flogging off everything and everyone else first. I would not be surprised by a left field sale of someone like Garner for £30m and Goddfrey for a fee that reflects the final term of his contract to balance the end of year. Onana and Branthwaite really need to rumble on all summer to maximise the pay day.

{Ed002's Note - So you are happy for another points deduction or perhaps a transfer ban?}

16 Jun 2024 13:24:37
Sounds stupid and I understand if I am deemed as such but I would take a points deduction if it meant getting maximum value for our top assets.

We have turned 2 points deductions in 1 season on their head before. I think getting an extra 30/ 50 million to invest in wages or players is more important to us atm than 2-6 points.

16 Jun 2024 00:05:50
Gutted about Kevin Campbell some my earliest memory's of him . Was such good ambassador for club aswell.