Everton Banter

18 May 2024 11:25:44
Just wondering about Smith Rowe of arsenal, scores goals, can play as a winger or number 10, what's the chances of us getting him on loan, arsenal don't want him, I think he would be perfect as a replacement for dacoure, probably way out of our league but dreaming is ok now and again.

18 May 2024 12:35:36
Think be a very good signing BluePasty. He as the graft too. Don't think he would be totally out of our reach as well .

Definitely a case that we need to utilise our 2 loan slots a lot shrewder next season and actually try improve the first 11 with both.

18 May 2024 13:17:44
That’s the sort of players we will be looking to bring in, young and hungry.

18 May 2024 13:25:26
May suit Arsenal to loan him too. Type of deal I can imagine we’d look at and in a position (10) we desperately need.

18 May 2024 13:56:41
Not for me gents.

Fantastic player but has a worse injury record than DCL.

3926 minutes played out of a possible 17100, across 5 seasons of football. 322 minutes this season. 161 last season. His best season being 1909.

18 May 2024 09:22:00
Wander and Pasko have resigned from their positions in 777.

18 May 2024 11:41:39
They’re a pair of crooks and should not be anywhere near our club.

{Ed002's Note - It leaves Everton with a huge problem.}

18 May 2024 12:58:02
Have to wonder what Moshiris fascination with 777 was/ is all about.

{Ed025's Note - i have a feeling there will be an Usmanov connection with 777 DFS, or is that just my nasty mind mate?..

18 May 2024 13:18:44
It’s mine as well mate they have been buddies for years.

18 May 2024 07:29:56
Does insanity effect all those who do Everton player squad deals.
Ashley Young is to be offered a new contract, are we running a football team, or a home for OAPs?

18 May 2024 09:06:49
Well our new ground does have zimmer parking.

18 May 2024 10:44:31
He’s been one of our more consistent players this season, and whilst we’d all love to be signing players I believe our financial predicament will prevent this.

If it’s on a relatively lowish wage and allows a youngster to develop alongside him then it makes sense given our situation.

18 May 2024 11:29:04
From all accounts he’s been amazing in the dressing room and a real leader, which is what we’ve lacked for years. There’s probably a view to him taking on a coaching role at some point too. It’s one year and it’s cheap and he can play in several positions . I think it’s fair enough. Let’s not forget we’re in real financial trouble.

18 May 2024 12:38:28
Yep Swinners. He is experienced and a calming figure, squad player yes, need limit his playing time. Expect a few more Young like signings this summer, free and experienced. Where we are at currently.

18 May 2024 13:16:04
Consistent player, Lewisham wage? I don’t think so.

18 May 2024 13:20:45
It’s as Gingerdan says also in his right position he has played ok and is fit, plus plenty of experienced.

18 May 2024 13:27:56
If he’s a positive influence, and a bench player, I suppose he’s good value, and can play many positions. He was consistent- consistently poor!

17 May 2024 17:08:51
Not sure how you follow blues feel but having just watched Jürgen Klopps tribute, he is going to be a big miss to the premiership and football.

Hard to admit but he has done a excellent job across the road and as much as he is annoying with his moaning and antics at times he has been a credit to the league.

We can only hope if and when Sean goes we could fall lucky and find a guy that could build us up like them lot, be very doubtful but can dream, shows how important patience is in football.

{Ed025's Note - i loved his last press conference Mocker, he paid tribute to the city and all the people in it mate, great manager for me as well..

17 May 2024 17:36:18
That worried me Mocker when you stated "if and when". WHEN SD goes, I too hope that we can find that inspirational genius to take us into our next successful period.

17 May 2024 17:49:08
Yeah class act. I have the uptmost respect for him.

17 May 2024 17:58:36
Couldn't care less about him. He's done a good job over the road. Hope slot is a square peg in a round hole. Thought it was really classy of liverpool to announce him while Klopp is taking his last press conference.

As for Klopp he's never shown any respect to us and wouldn't expect or want him to and therefore I ain't got any for him. Just another manager of the enemy.

17 May 2024 18:06:46
Nick, I get you don't like Sean and his Dyche all, but he ain't going anywhere mate anytime soon, he has a difficult job to say the least but has achieved his remit and can argue overachieved in the circumstances and PTS deduction (we would be 11th and behind 10th on GD) , he deserves some slack mate cmon. Sean job is to stabilise us for next couple years then the question is worth asking can he take us to the next level, for me he deserves a go if he manages to achieve stability and remain with us for next couple of seasons, this summer again is going to be turmoil and patience is key.

17 May 2024 18:12:08
Same as that BlueJohnUns arrogant springs to mind, glad to see the back of him.

17 May 2024 20:06:20
Mocker I accept your post and perhaps we just differ on our expectations.

17 May 2024 23:27:24
No doubt that Klopp is a skilled manager, but I can’t stand the sight of him and won’t miss him one bit.

18 May 2024 00:43:37
I've been told by Liverpool fans who been to fan events that he very rude and refuses to speak to fans as he to busy . Personally think all act for cameras. Heard this of multiple people.

18 May 2024 07:47:06
There are expectations and then there are realistic expectations.

18 May 2024 10:12:27
I take no interest in other teams don't watch a football match unless efc are playing but I'm going to enjoy the self entitled fans of lfc have a meltdown now he's gone same as I've enjoyed watching the demise of mufc since fergie chucked it.

18 May 2024 10:45:22
Can't wait for Turkey teeth to go didn't mind him when he 1st came to the prem then he showed what a moaning arrogant p. k he was. but he did love DCL's header in the derby his face was a picture.

18 May 2024 10:46:19
Biggest moaner in the league and a rather nasty individual when asked questions by journalists after a defeat or draw.

I for one won’t miss him.

18 May 2024 10:51:35
Yeah read shamus and idrissa are staying for another year aswell. suppose it's just were we are at the moment he doesn't rate the youngsters and we can't afford to buy anyone it does make sense if we are happy hovering above relegation again because no doubt we will get more points deducted at some point because the fa have something against us and how crap we are run.

18 May 2024 11:15:37
That reply is on the wrong post.

18 May 2024 13:17:34
Klopp is all smiley when things are going right, but is in the assistant refs ear the whole bloody game.

17 May 2024 16:12:28
Coleman and Guaye I can accept. But Ashley Young, please God no.

17 May 2024 17:54:47
Cheap cheap cheap. Get used to it.

17 May 2024 23:28:16
Other cheap options though surely. In fact many that would accept a lower wage than Young.

18 May 2024 09:10:28
Agree JB, but it looks like Dyche is sticking with who he knows.

17 May 2024 13:24:01
Maupay on his way back from Brentford, not good enough, let him go.

17 May 2024 15:02:31
He scored at Brentford GB. So what did they do different to us for him to score? We seem to have a knack of getting rid of players who go onto do better. Do you think our coaching and game plan could be at fault rather than the players?

17 May 2024 15:06:49
Agree. But we need to buy a buyer first GB and get whatever money we can.

17 May 2024 16:13:36
Wouldn’t touch Maupay with a barge pole, he’s exactly the sort of player who needs to be moved on, hopefully he can go for free.

17 May 2024 17:10:54
Doubt any of us would GB. We all know he needs moving on but we ain't in a position to give away on a "free" and need to find a buyer.

17 May 2024 17:52:05
Nothing is free we save on his wages, simple.

17 May 2024 17:58:07
The difference is they play on the deck and flood the box with players and not hoofed in for 1 striker to wait for the perfect ball. He isn't the answer and will not suit Dyche ball but I do love his shi9housing. Still time for Brentford to make an offer as he did well for them. Guess they want to get the big man's deal done before they make any decisions.

17 May 2024 18:14:01
GB,

We can't just give away yanno. Haha. We would after pay up his contract and he carries a value to the business. Simple.

17 May 2024 18:14:07
I think Brentford want to buy him FBS, best thing about him is his mouth.

18 May 2024 10:44:07
He had enough time and enough minutes to get used to whatever system it is we play, plus numerous training sessions. For whatever reason, him and us just wasn't a good fit so we should cut our losses and get rid.
He has spoken about the way the fans treated him here since he left on loan so I don't expect that he wants to be at the club when the season starts. Let's be honest, he's made a name for himself this season for all the wrong reasons. His social media and the way he conducts himself on the pitch brings unwanted attention, the lad comes across as a bit of a rat. Get what we can for him.

18 May 2024 10:55:26
I don't rate him but they play 2 up top. Wonder if they would swap Toney wissa or mbenue for him lol.

17 May 2024 04:04:58
Would we accept any investor who could sort out our finances and free up money for transfers?

Do we reject billionaires whose country 'sport washes' to make it look better or are prepared to turn a blind eye?

Personally I don't care as long as they sort us out, what do other blues think? ??.

{Ed001's Note - would it have to be a country? Ineos is sportswashing just the same as any country, would you include a similar corporation that is trying to hide its sins through sport?}

17 May 2024 08:58:55
It's getting to the point that anyone or thing that can actually pay it's bills and not lurch us into another financial disaster is a positive. Be that a state with questionable human rights or a corporate take over that needs to be associated with the EPL off set their sweat shops. Ideally it'd be some lifelong supporters who are amongst the richest on the planet who wants to plunder billions but let's get real.

17 May 2024 10:42:47
WelshTrucker. and FBS good posts a lot will agree with you, doubt there are many PremierClubs squeaky clean when it comes to finance eh.

17 May 2024 11:33:57
&:alot won't GB. Each to their own tho.

17 May 2024 12:48:11
Personally I will follow Everton until I die. I won't however, pay to watch them if some of my money will be used in a country, or by a corporation, that supports poor humanitarian rights, or puts people to death for speaking out. I would not be here if my grandparents had not fled Burma when the Japanese invaded, so, maybe my views are tainted. However, as Mocker says "each to their own".

{Ed002's Note - Fortunately you won't need to worry about that Nick.}

17 May 2024 13:06:21
How many liberal, ethical billionaires are there?

17 May 2024 13:57:32
Very true JB I think Moshiri is an Iranian, human rights as we know it exist over there,

{Ed002's Note - Iran was a very different state when he was born in the 1950s. He has lived in London and Monaco for many, many years.}

17 May 2024 14:18:57
Very true Ed and also best mates with Usmanov, politics and sport in are a definite no no.

17 May 2024 16:54:02
That rules out USA or uk investors out then Nick? The Saudi backed invasion of Iraq, Guantanamo bay, wars for oil. Every country is full of corrupt horrible rich people.

17 May 2024 17:53:27
Exactly Oceandrive.

17 May 2024 18:10:55
Ocean it the same at the bottom mate as the top. Plenty of people claiming benefits taking it out of the mouths who deserve them and deserve more than they get. Rich or poor, no need to discriminate. Bad people everywhere regardless of miney or class.

Me personally, I do care who takes us over. I want a proper business orientated takeover that understands
football, sport and how to grow a sports company using its resources to its maximum.

No more people who love the club or mad billionaires.

16 May 2024 16:46:36
Any truth in the report Man U could move to Goodison while their ground gets a redevelopment.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

16 May 2024 19:04:27
Can't wouldn't happen, some things are greater than money.

16 May 2024 19:18:56
Never say never mate.

16 May 2024 20:22:26
No police force could control it the hatred the residents around goodison have for mancs they would need to deploy the British army every home game ain't happening.

16 May 2024 20:35:32
Absolute no chance they will hold the Manchester derby in the city of Liverpool GB sorry.

Everton should be the last home team to play at goodison end of pal.

17 May 2024 12:49:55
Why not do a deal? They can use Bramley Moor free of charge providing they pay for the redevelopment of Goodison so we can stay at the old lady.

{Ed002's Note - Everton will not be able to stay at Goodison.}

17 May 2024 13:58:49
Hope that never happens, we need to move on Nick.

17 May 2024 16:54:37
The coach wouldn’t make it out of Walton this has to be a wind up.

16 May 2024 16:45:00
I'm gathering we will be selling at least 1 forward either Beto or DCL as we have been linked with che adams again on a free unless he chooses wolves over us. i suppose it's needs must for a few windows and we can get players in to do a job Sad times but we are EVERTON and will be fine COYB'S 💙💙💪💪💪.

16 May 2024 19:06:06
I am not concerned to be honest, we have some very good young uns. The problem is Dyches distrust of youth.

16 May 2024 19:57:02
Well think he is going to have to trust some next season and I hope we have a few that prove him wrong.

17 May 2024 08:31:05
It's quite clear that Beto can't find the netto. Just another grafter who works hard but has little end product. Whoever thought spending 25m on him was a good idea needs a slap.

16 May 2024 07:44:58
Whats people foughts on the current discussion that VAR could be scrapped next season my opinion i would keep it but it needs a proper adjustment the handball rule seriously needs addressing to i think we need referees from abroad cause our current refs all seem to be helping eachother out including stockley park even when they are wrong and then but last why havnt we got ifab i watch la liga takes 7 seconds to show if a player is offside where takes us 5 minutes an a 8 year old is on Microsoft paint drawing offside lines at stockley park 😂.

16 May 2024 08:52:21
I would get rid of it Andy mate or at least put on hold until big improvements are implemented.

Totally taken the joy out of watching the game, human error still talking point and caused more debate and arguments then solved.

As you say the handball rule is subjective and needs looking at big time. Don't like the offside decisions far too marginal imo and needs been some kind of margin of the attackers. Also the time involved to make decisions is a joke, I was all for some kind of appeal system in place for managers or captains to challenge decisions but I guess that would only take a age and stop the flow and enjoyment.

16 May 2024 09:05:41
Football has always and will always be a game of opinions. It does generally get more right but the speed is a major problem. When I watch at home even the so called tight ones, I rarely get the offside wrong and I take a second. Handball rule needs to revert back to it's simple deliberate or not and sack off this no goal nonsense even for accidental handball. I say keep it but simplify it. And the ref should not be overruled unless it's a howler. I like the accuracy of off sides but let the refs do the rest.

16 May 2024 09:51:10
Yeah some good points in you're post mocker but yeah hand ball rule definitely needs adjusting but not sure if you watched the united match last night but how did var not review the tackle on gordan was a blatant penalty and his sock was ripped from that tackle 😂.

16 May 2024 09:56:25
Rugby league has used it perfectly for years proper people in charge of it decision made in seconds problem is footballs run by clowns.

16 May 2024 10:08:02
Its not the technology its the people using it, no consistency. If we stay with it then over time you should be able to use machine learning to populate a large enough data lake for AI to make the decisions based on a set of determined values. This would take all the personal interpretation out of the equation providing greater consistency. Or we could just go back to Referees and assistants making the decision and stop whinging when they get its wrong or seem to be biased towards certain clubs.

16 May 2024 10:35:44
Yeah I did watch Andy mate and watched few times since, like you can't believe it wasn't given and Gordan is right, what is the point of VAR!

Statistically it may be getting more tight decisions correct, but the key static for me is my enjoyment of the game since it has been introduced has gone down. Fact!

The technology is great and there to be used but still doesn't solve the subjective calls and as others have rightly stated other sports use it better and more effectively at pace, it's the inept officials we have nowadays and what seems to be a celebrity culture amongst them.

16 May 2024 14:36:07
Absolutely garbage, get rid of var for good would be my perfect solution.

16 May 2024 15:36:30
Get rid of it. There's no joy in the game anymore. VAR stick their noses into everything. It was brought in to assist refs, not try overrule them. It's the incompetent refs who are in the var room that var was brought in to try improve. And everyone has a different interpretation of fouls, handball etc. Just chick it in the bin.

16 May 2024 15:38:10
I'm all for VAR for catching the off the ball incidents or the foul leading to a goal. As for handball it needs simplifying. Offside by an eyebrow is pathetic and no amount of cameras or techno wizardry can accurately be conclusive. Why not make it over half the body (i. e. two arms and a leg, two legs and an arm, one leg one arm and a head) . Easy to see and will not take such a song and dance to sort out.

16 May 2024 15:57:42
Always thought that with offside Nick. If any part of your body that can score is inside it should stand. simple.

17 May 2024 08:32:06
Keep VAR scrap the referees.

18 May 2024 12:24:04
Scrap VAR. Tried, failed and it really is a no brainer. Football was a much better free flowing game without it. I prefer watching two teams than three.

15 May 2024 17:48:57
Just been reading Beto wants us to sell him in the summer because he wants to play and not be a sub which i get. but do we actually even own him yet because i can't see any team giving us £26 million for him . l like the effort he puts in but his 1st touch is shocking he traps it further than i can kick it and can't stay on side.

15 May 2024 19:01:27
He's not on a lease or hire purchase arrangements 😂.

15 May 2024 20:43:10
I would imagine he will get his wish for 1st team football, even if he stays, as I can see us selling DCL.

16 May 2024 02:06:44
Maupay and chermiti as back up to Beto then 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️.

16 May 2024 09:06:55
If Maupay does as well as he did, . he'd be our best player.

{Ed025's Note - he will never be the best player in any team FBS, one if not THE worst player we have ever signed imo mate..

16 May 2024 11:15:52
Let him go asap, he's not good enough for this league. Only thing going for him is that he puts in the effort but shouldn't every player do that anyway? As mentioned above, his control is shocking, he's constantly offside and his shooting is erratic. Cut our losses and grant him his wish immediately. If we sell dcl and are left with him as our main striker then we will be scrapping again at the bottom of the table next season for sure.

16 May 2024 14:21:17
DCL:

Minutes played - 2092
Games completing 60 minutes or more - 24
Goals scored - 7 (2 Penalties)
Big chances created - 4
Big chances missed - 15
Offsides - 23

Beto:

Minutes played - 942
Games completing 60 minutes or more - 9
Goals scored - 3
Big chances created - 3
Big chances missed - 8
Offsides - 10

The lad has never gotten a chance to build up even a slither of confidence and we all know that is what strikers thrive off. He has come to a new league and country, in probably the most high-pressured environment possible, considering all the circus with this club.

In noway shape or form do we play to his strengths. The one time we put the ball into him (lovely ball from Garner) he buries it. The occasional times we put him in behind (Doncaster and Newcastle) and he bursts through, using his power and finishes.

Its absolutely baffling how Dom gets given the benefit of the doubt (rightly so btw) about how terrible we are, how little chances we create for him and how he is up there fighting on his own but then those same benefits are not gifted to Beto.

Is Dom a better player, undisputedly so. However, Dom went 19 games without scoring a goal and it was everyone else's fault but his. He has played more than double the game time, got more consistent runs in the team and only scored double the goals Beto has with penalties.

Yes, it was the Italian league but go and look at the goals Beto was scoring for Udinese. He doesn't look like a player who can't score goals to me. Give him time, build his confidence and ultimately, actually give him minutes and he could easily be a 10+ goals striker a season.

The rubbish this man gets is criminal when you can clearly see he tries his best for the shirt, especially when the same cannot be said about others that actually play.

{Ed025's Note - i suppose its how you view things BN, for me Beto is useless mate, very strong and powerful but hes in the wrong sport for me, cant lead the line and is very poor in the air for me, no composure in front of goal and deceptively slow, just my opinion of course..

16 May 2024 15:06:51
By no means do I think he has delivered for us Ed. I think he has been a disappointment but I do think there is an awful lot of context to that disappointment.

It is strange, due to his build and presence, but holding the ball up is not his game. He is slow off the mark but once he gets going he is a hard man to stop.

I think the chances he has missed this season are poor but I think his confidence was decimated from the introduction to life at us. I think he has been criminally mis-managed by Dyche and any chance of him getting going has been non-existent.

I know it is only Doncaster but fans were excited by what he showed in that game. It is extremely unfortunate that Dom decided to be fit for the first time in what felt like forever, which then limited him to a few 5/ 10 minute spells off the bench, where ultimately his confidence eroded by the week.

Personally I think the lad would work best with a partner. It seems absolutely baffling to me that we have one of the best strikers in the league for winning the ball in the air and winning knockdowns or flick ons and then we have Beto, who thrives off being played in behind. How many times has Dyche tried them together, I think I can recall once!

The way I think about new signings has taken a different view now Ed. I will gladly admit that I thought Mykolenko and McNeil were absolutely garbage, even though, like Beto, they both worked their bollocks off. There is no question that they have improved since getting that first stint under their belt. Don't get me wrong they are both still very limited players but they have been important players for us this season for sure. I just feel that Beto could turn out that way for us to, if he was actually given the opportunity.

We shelled out 26 million on him and after this season, I doubt we would get anywhere near that back. Taking that into account, we may as well either give him a chance to prove his worth and/ or increase his value or loan him out back to an Italian club to do the same. I think selling him, is terrible business given our situation.

{Ed025's Note - if we could get our money back i would take him to his new club by wheelbarrow BN, not a fan at all mate but respect your opinion..

16 May 2024 22:12:28
Totally agree with ed025 on everything he said at the end of BN's 1st post. It's about opinions and I've formed mine by watching him play in a blue shirt. For me, he is not, and probably never will be, at premier league standard.
Let's forget about Doncaster as they are not in the same league. He did do well that game but the fact that he has never replicated that game speaks volumes. That is probably his level in this country. Remember his miss against them as well? It sticks in the mind because it nearly went for a throw in!
I'll take your word on the amount of times he has been offside but also remember the times he's in an offside position that breaks up our rhythm and play because he can't receive a pass or the ref will blow.
Blaming the manager is a tough one as, if he trains like he plays, I wouldn't be playing him either.
I don't think confidence is the problem, BN, I honestly don't believe he has the ability to play at this level.
I don't see many people being horrible about him, everyone who doesn't share your opinion have said the same sort of things, tries hard but. Hardly criminal mate, it's just an opinion!