Everton banter 3

04 Nov 2025 17:57:11
So Swan you are vehemently against trying out any youngsters in place of our dynamic duo Beto and Barry, what is your suggestion to how we can change our front line with what we have available, Ndiaye, Alcaraz have been shot down so interested who you would pick mate.

04 Nov 2025 18:59:21
Never said they were dynamic, they are the only 2 strikers we have. No one in the league plays with either really short strikers or really un-athletic centre backs. So physically you have to match them.

Barry is a better footballer than Beto, he has no confidence, play him until January then get someone better, that simple. Even if his ability to control a ball means Ndiaye and Grealish have more space.

I also would start Alcaraz because he doesn’t leave the striker isolated, he will go up with them.

04 Nov 2025 19:05:24
It's not Swan's job to pick the team, it's Moyes's, only he hasn't got the balls to do it. He is a one trick pony. You can go on all you want about playing a youngster up front but Davey isn't the man to try something new.

04 Nov 2025 19:26:09
I would go with that Swan we simply have to change something before we get to the transfer window, but it needs to done pronto mate.

04 Nov 2025 19:55:18
I’m all for Barry getting the nod for at least the next few games.

Barring that bad miss (and it was a shocker) he did ok. Taking him off instead of letting him make up for his error isn’t going to get him into any kind of form.

04 Nov 2025 20:47:39
I think a problem Barry has is he’s going to suffer a lot from people who will just never rate him because of a bad first impression.

Not comparing the 2, just saying, there are Everton fans who never liked Lukaku the moment he signed and even to this day will insist he was garbage despite his goals.

Barry must start and stay on until he’s knackered or injured. He’s got a higher ceiling than Beto and is already a better footballer. He missed a good chance, it happens, the lad has no confidence.

04 Nov 2025 22:31:04
When he plays well, we’ll rate him.

05 Nov 2025 10:32:49
Everton supporters "give youth a chance" a little while later "he's crap we need experienced players" what are the club doing?

05 Nov 2025 18:07:25
He’s crap full stop. Nothing to do with age.

05 Nov 2025 18:40:50
Baffling ?.

06 Nov 2025 07:33:26
It’s not Brass. I’m not calling for his head or making any bold statements. He has been crap so far this season, as has Beto. When you spend 30+ million on a striker, you should expect h to be able to string his boots up.

04 Nov 2025 14:51:05
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04 Nov 2025 12:12:34
Why oh why can we not have Braiden Graham in our team, time and time again missed chances from our misfiring Beto and Barry, we should have been 3 nil up at half time last night with game over, instead we sit back after a great 25 minutes ans see out a 1-1 draw, valuable points being lost in all these games we just have to change our front line.

04 Nov 2025 14:40:15
Guernsey I'm all for giving these young lads a go but is Moyse.

04 Nov 2025 15:07:04
If he was ready or good enough to be at this level he’d be in the squad or would’ve been snapped up by someone else.

He’ll play, struggle badly because he’s a kid, then people will moan at Moyes for playing a kid with ZERO professional experience, in the premier league as a lone striker.

04 Nov 2025 15:44:51
Like they do now.

04 Nov 2025 15:58:40
Oh like Beto, Barry, McNeil etc etc who are all ready and in the squad so must be good enough, yeah right.

04 Nov 2025 16:19:42
Why only ask for our under 18 striker then? Why not just play the whole under 18s and just have Ndiaye and Grealish start?

Liverpool went on a bad run, why didn’t he just play the same team against Villa that he did against Palace in the week, they can’t have done any worse right?

This “play the kids because Rooney was great” thing is nonsense. We don’t have a single player in our academy who is going to make it in our first team. This “they can’t do worse than what we have” thing sounds great until they actually play and you realise, oh wait, they can do worse and you’ve also killed their confidence.

Our fanbase has no patience for youngsters, if we play Graham against Fulham, he’d be isolated, he’s also tiny with no pace, he’d get boo’d off at half time and fans would be chanting for Beto or Barry the whole game.

I remember this stuff with Cisco Junior, “he can’t be worse than what we have”. Moyes started him against Leeds in the cup and it was one of the worst performances ever displayed by an Everton player and he never played again.

If they are good enough, they are old enough, we do not have anyone with that level of talent or even physicality. We already leave our 6 foot 5 striker isolated and you want to throw up a 5 foot 8 17 year old upfront on his own because “he also won’t score so why not ruin his future”.

04 Nov 2025 16:47:23
We will never know mate if we don’t try, at the end of the day a couple of games would not hurt, see what they have got, because what we have at the moment i xxxx.

04 Nov 2025 17:07:35
Graham also plays in an under 21 side who have beaten recently by the likes of Tamworth, Doncaster, drawn with Brackley town. Hardly screams give them a chance in the premier league XI. Comparing giving them a chance to someone like Rooney is night and day. But yea let’s throw him in and possibly ruin any chance he may have.

{Ed025's Note - no one is saying he will pull up any trees JW but surely a cameo from the bench with 10 minutes or so to go wont do any harm mate, lets be honest he has to be better than that waste of space McNeil and our 2 planks who pretend to be strikers, and you never know..

04 Nov 2025 17:11:53
The coaches do know though don’t they, they watch every game. If Graham was better than Beto or Barry, he’d be straight in. Moyes wants to win games as much as we want we want the team to.

04 Nov 2025 17:24:46
I agree to a cameo here and thereED025 but people are talking like he needs to be starting. Players like dibling who we paid a decent amount for, aren’t even getting that.

So there’s no hope for anyone else. Do think we have to cut our losses with them 2 in January and try bring in an Ivan Toney or someone like that. But this is Everton.

{Ed025's Note - i think we may have to pay clubs to take them Jam, but its not just the forwards because they are so isolated and for me we need a marauding No 10 who can receive the ball in the middle from our wide men and run at defences, all this hoof the ball up to the big man and hope for 2nd phase ball is old hat mate..

04 Nov 2025 17:45:21
I wouldn't expect the likes of BG to be starting if selected in a squad but, as Ed says, giving them ten mins here and there can't do much harm. It might even give the other two a kick up the arse knowing that they aren't just competing against each other.

04 Nov 2025 17:52:33
Richy please.

04 Nov 2025 18:21:48
And there lies the problem Ed. We play a loan striker punting long balls up to him and expect him to produce. And for all those shouting for Richarlison back I can remember him having the same problems when he was a loan striker.
Ed is correct it is pointless playing this formation if you don’t have a ten to support him.

{Ed025's Note - we have nothing productive in the middle BMD, we go wide and stay wide so its easy to double up on Jack and Illy and this negates any progress towards goal, to be honest mate its not much better than what Dyche served up no matter what people try to tell us, we are so 1 dimensional and im afraid thats down to the manager..

04 Nov 2025 18:22:44
Be a gamble that GB and they would want cash for him. Watched him a few times, certainly lost pace and as a No9 he is chasing shadows. Loved the lad when he was with us but his 60 mill did a bit for our PSR. Quite a few in the Championship putting the goals away.

04 Nov 2025 19:06:55
I don’t get this “he has to be better” mentality. Players can always get worse. What would Graham actually be able to do upfront? He’s too short to win headers, so that’s already the one thing we expect crossed off the list. Is he really strong? No. Well maybe he can be like Defoe and be dead fast and a lethal finisher right? Well, no, he isn’t fast and his goal record isn’t anything remarkable at any level.

We’ve bought him to move him on for a small profit, that’s it. He isn’t premier league standard and never will be and before someone says “well is Beto? ” No, but Beto has scored goals, not many, but if Graham played the games for us Beto has done, I’d be amazed if he had 1. There are levels to this.

04 Nov 2025 19:49:43
I think it's more of a 'can't do much worse than he has to be better', swan. Barry might be over 6ft but he looks like he could do with a good meal inside him and I don't think he is ready for this league either. There's nothing that I can add to the Beto debate that I haven't been saying for over a year, he needs to be sold in January.

We knew that we had to muddle on until January the second the summer window closed but I still expected both of our forwards to contribute with goals. Sadly, their inability to finish even the simplest of chances has hampered us and has potentially cost us points in the games so far. Everyone is fed up and rightly so, no matter which opinion us fans have. Some blame the manager, others the players but, regardless, we still have to muddle on until the next window opens. Hopefully the striker predicament is solved then.

04 Nov 2025 11:07:28
I recall people saying O'Brien must not be ready as Dyche sees him in training every day. Look how that worked out.
Now we have people saying Dibbling and Aznou can't be ready as Moyes sees them in training everyday. So we churn out the same side week on week, and give players like Alcaraz and Rohl the odd 10-15 mins here and there.
He has Tarkowski as our captain, a player so out of form he shouldn't even be in the side. We lack a leader on the pitch, someone who is going to have a go when we start falling back.
When Barry missed that sitter nobody went over to him and showed him any support or encouragement.
Recently someone on here said they would never have a player like Roy Keane in our side.

Yet that is exactly the type of player we are lacking.
Think about it who is the most vocal player in our team right now? Probably Pickford, and he only shouts after making a save.
No lack of leadership on the pitch is killing us. Last night showed it we played really well for the first twenty minutes pressing high up the pitch. Scored a goal and then started dropping deeper and deeper. Not one player stepped up and drove the team on. They just all disappeared into their shells and fell back into their old routine.
And what was said at half time to change this, by the look of it nothing. Moyes has to find that leader in the team and it's not Tarkowski.

04 Nov 2025 12:09:47
Can't argue with any of that

The problem is. who is there? I don't like goalkeepers as captains so I wouldn't like Pickford being captain and no one else stands out as captain material except Tarks.

04 Nov 2025 13:30:48
Jack or Garner could do the job.

04 Nov 2025 13:38:59
GB neither are captain material mate, and agree wouldn’t want Pickford doing it.

04 Nov 2025 14:34:41
Dunno till we try thought Ndiaye at first.

04 Nov 2025 14:52:23
Barry?

04 Nov 2025 15:04:12
Pickford is a consistently good performer and motivator. He could be captain.

04 Nov 2025 15:49:52
I really can't think of one player who could step up and be a leader on the pitch. Pickford just shouts at people and does a lot of finger pointing. Ideally you would want it to be a midfield player, someone who can carry the team forward. Can't think of one at the moment though.

04 Nov 2025 16:16:33
Pickford! BMD is right. Kean?

04 Nov 2025 10:45:28
At risk of repeating my own and numerous other comments, no matter how often Moyes switches Beto and Barry the results will be the same, DIRE! What have Rohl and Dibbing done to warrant constant omissions and what's with the not Premier league ready comments. We need a radical rethink of team set up as we are being found out week in week out.
We have players like Alcarez, Rohl, Dibbing to name but a few who struggle for game time.

Play Grealish, Ndyaaye, Alcarez and Dibbing together in whatever permutation up front, Rohl, Kdh and Garner midfield and put some of the younger hungry players on the bench like Graham. Beto and Barry are not Premier league ready are they. Who knows the youngsters may surprise us. Please for the love of god stop playing the same 2 donkeys week in week out.

{Ed025's Note - that is an insult to Donkeys everywhere YY..

04 Nov 2025 12:17:36
He haw he haw always does mate.

04 Nov 2025 08:52:57
Sunderland, a Team in form, playing very well at home and away. Everton go there with no striker and come away with a 1-1 draw. Everton are not, as some say a bad side, far from it. I can only truly comment from first person home experience.

Our away games I only see on TV and what I see is a good side with on the whole a good bench but no strikers. Read an article this morning £160 million wasted since Lukaku, how can this happen, is there a common source of incompetence?

04 Nov 2025 12:21:39
I think Sunderland are a very dirty Team and we’re mighty lucky not to get Two players sent off for very atrocious tackles both warranted Red cards, we went 1 nil up and played well for 25 minutes and could have been 3 nil up at half time and out of sight, but sit back for a 1-1 draw,

04 Nov 2025 13:40:05
They have definitely been taught to cheat at every opportunity.

04 Nov 2025 14:17:28
That’s why they are called Scumderland ?.

04 Nov 2025 15:04:42
They appealed for about 20 penalties.

04 Nov 2025 15:52:46
Do you know JB I was just waiting for the referee to give one mate. But for once we had a good referee, thought the lad managed the game well. I can think of a few who would have given at least one of those shouts.

04 Nov 2025 08:00:20
When Barry scores his first i'm convinced it will be like buses.

I know he's frustrating us but he's much better hold up wise and linking than Beto.

Give him 6x75 mins in a row please. Poor lad missed a sitter, Haalands missed sitters before and yes haaland then scores. Barry needs that first goal and then hopefully his confidence increase and we see more from him.

Beto is pathetic.

{Ed025's Note - i wish i could see what you do pb, i see nothing that makes me think that he even resembles a footballer mate..

04 Nov 2025 09:09:07
Mrs needs a new clothes line prop, told her no way am I shelling out £27 mill.

04 Nov 2025 10:34:30
Totally agree PB, there is a footballer in there .
His confidence is not being helped by being replaced after 45 / 50 minutes by that plank Beto.

04 Nov 2025 12:24:42
Beto and Barry both need a long spell in the under 21s, both are not good enough at all with either head or foot for the Premiership, losing valuable points it needs to change pronto.

04 Nov 2025 13:11:15
Don’t see it at the moment, looks like he’s got two blocks of cement on his feet.
Hope to be proved wrong.

04 Nov 2025 17:18:53
He's lightweight, no presence, no pace/ acceleration, poor vision, a thripny bit head and 2 dead legs.

{Ed025's Note - you are bigging him up too much for me mate..

04 Nov 2025 07:46:55
Feels like we have been posting the same comments for 10 years - can't score goals - can't keep the ball

Seriously - say to recruitment - buy a striker who has proven can score in the premier league - money wasted on Sandro, Kean, Barry, Beto, Maupay, Naisse


Naisse has best goal ratio since Rom - let that sink in

Sandro, Barry, Maupay - 1 PL goal between them for us

You can't be buying players for 20 million to play up front - that game would have been over at half time if had a half decent forward.

If money is so tight why is majority of our signings sitting on bench - surely would be better to have bought a Rt back, centre half and a half decent striker.

{Ed025's Note - i give up with our recruitment Sobs, buying players who are not prem ready for big money...whats that all about?, i dont know who bought or sanctioned these players but whoever it was needs sacking mate..

04 Nov 2025 17:21:18
@Sobsnewcastle Spot on comment/ points.

04 Nov 2025 07:29:16
Ask Kean if he fancies a go at striker. We know he can strike/ head a ball, we know he can pass a ball, even seen him run with a ball. We know he isn't the fastest. Not sure about the last but 100 percent certain he is better at the first three than our equivalent pair of muppets in the gallery.

04 Nov 2025 14:42:52
Keanos needed in defence been our best defender all season tarkys gone backwards.

04 Nov 2025 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - BlueNose1878 has posted a new article entitled, Everton Need January Reinforcements to Salvage the Season

04 Nov 2025 06:02:30
I think we are in terrible trouble with dithering Dave and half each Barry and Beto how in heavens name did they become professional footballers and who deserves the sack for signing them, our back line needs replacing with younger faster players, the only consistent thing we do is keep signing below average players going on near 30 years now.

04 Nov 2025 08:05:40
Completely agree.