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11 Feb 2016 08:05:14
Hi Howie
We had 3 trips to Wembley inc semi finals
(And apart from the surrender against Arsenal and being robbed when James Milner was took out against Man U and it should have been a straight red but the ref bottled it as They were a big club and it was only minutes into the game )
since learner took over
And I have enjoyed them all
I have a 14 year old son has been to Wembley to see his team play 3 times
PRICELESS MEMORIES
What have you had!
And 1999 last final at the old Wembley against Chelsea and the semi before that forgot that one
Last post by me
I KNOW YOU DON'T READ A CERTAIN RED TOP
ON MERSEYSIDE BUT IF YOU SEE TODAYS PAPER BLOWING AROUND ON THE FLOOR OPEN IT UP AND READ THE DOUBLE SPREAD 3 PAGES BACK
ON A CERTAIN MR LEARNER
AFTER MY POSTING YESTERDAY YOU MAY THINK I WAS THE REPORTER
ALL THE BEST
UTV.
1.) 11 Feb 2016 08:41:43
Charmed I can't understand why you took loads of crap mate all you did was try to give us a bit of advice kid and I backed you up.
But I would like to say even if we seen that certain rag blowing around we wouldn't touch it not because we're evertonians but because we are scousers lad whatever is in it is probably lies IMO and I and nobody here would touch it I know you don't relies it mate because your not from our world but you let yourself down a bit asking us to read that rubbish mate and nobody will take you serious if you bring that crap up so I would leave that one kid.
2.) 11 Feb 2016 10:34:58
Hi blue lain
Full respect mate know where you come from
Didn't mean to offend in any way
As I mentioned we have done Goodison
And Anfield a couple of times
Only had To take the lad to Newcastle, crystal palace,
Bournemouth Chelsea and he has done all the premier league grounds and he has done the lot befor his 16 birthday
Mr learner had put an end to that I suppose we will do the seaside grounds next season
It is only man city and now Leicester who have prospered with all the takeovers
The wheels have come off for Man U, Chelsea, Villa, QPR
Good to see Tottenham Everton doing it under there own steam
Interesting point though
Look how many managers Man C, Man U
Liverpool, Chelsea, villa have got though
All the best.
3.) 11 Feb 2016 11:10:58
To be honest Charmed, I tried to cut you down on your first post. It's clear now that it wasn't the menace I first thought so good on you mate.
I've got a good friend who's a villa fan so I wish you both a better 3rd ending to the season than the first 2.
4.) 11 Feb 2016 12:52:37
Hi Charmed, one of the things Everton need to improve on is the commercial activities. I live in the US and have done so since 1978 (I was born in the district of Everton) . Apart from several games in Dallas and Chicago when several hundred Evertonians congregated I have only seen two Everton shirted people. One was a girl who followed the Everton women's team and the other one funnily enough was last week at Meg O'Malley's pub in Melbourne Florida. I went up and introduced myself and it turned out the guy was a German who picked an English club to support. Funnily enough he was with a friend who had on an Aston Villa shirt. Now I mention this because the is definitely the first Villa shirt I have seen in the US, so much for American ownership. So both teams have a lot to do to increase shirt sales in the US.
By the way I was at Wembley in 1999 also, got a ticket from my brother who has connections. I was supporting Villa and was gutted when they lost. Like us a famous old team who don't deserve to be relegated. By the way I was also at Wembley in 1966 and 1995 and it is indeed a great experience which I hope to repeat before going to the happy hunting ground,
Mike.
5.) 11 Feb 2016 15:26:36
Deary me Charmed keep yer hair on, if ya not bald. All I've said is I didn't consider what u said about O'neil being successful was right the same as I didn't think Moyes was, as there was no silverware. I too have taken my son to Wembley for 2 FA cup semis and an FA Final. We also qualified for Champs League, but was there a silver Cup at the end of anything? No. that's all. jeez!
10 Feb 2016 16:41:29
Bluupaul
They left as we were successful under O'neil
They wanted more money and medals
And as will happen with stones and Barkley a bit of success and the big boys come sniffing
Look at Barry
Threw his dummy out the pram and went to train with Hastings his home team club on strike
As the villa would let him leave when Liverpool came on for him
Look where the first batch went
Barry, Milner man city
Young man united
Downing Liverpool
Delph signed a contract with a get out clause to get a fee for him as otherwise he walked for free
He at least got the club some money
Beneteke was all agent
Is the grass greener?
Beneteke couldn't him a barn door ( will probably score a hatrrick Sunday)
Delph a bit part player
Downing Middlesbrough
Barry Everton ( lost place in man city at least he joined a club where he could play my favourite ever Vila player bar Paul McGrath
Milner Liverpool (lost play to Delph he was only a bit part player who couldn't command a regular position yet alone a regular start)
1.) 10 Feb 2016 18:28:49
Successful under O'neil? I guess so for Villa. 3 Seasons finished 6th and a League Cup losing Finalist.
Bit like calling Moyes successful, but as a Blue I don't as there wasnt any Silverware!
10 Feb 2016 16:19:57
Hi Toffee Ace
You have a short memory
Manchester United the Salford green and yellow scarf
Protest about the clubs debts
Liverpool 77 minute walkout over ticket prices
Becoming a bit clear
Go on a popular video channel
Search for
What Randy learner did to the Cleveland Browns
Another sports venture he got bored with
The Glazers check there history
Sports and shopping malls
Hicks and Gillette
They came for the money
The premier league had the biggest
T V deal in the world
Venture capitalists want a part of it
Look at the players going to China
Ramires, Remi the kid from Barcelona
Wait and see China will be bigger than the premier in s couple of years
All these owners will cash out
And follow the money.
10 Feb 2016 13:04:57
Villa fan here
Be careful what you wish
Man U financed by debt
Liverpool first owners
Aston villa
All have American owners
I know you have your beef with Liverpool
But the first owners all most ruined them
the yanks have ruined my club
First 3 years spending in the community etc
Now not even a player bought in on the Jan window
Man U massive debt massive loan payments to the glazers
Be careful what you wish
Barkley stones etc will be gone to finance the club
You think I joke
Look at the villa players who were sold
To balance the books
Gareth Barry
Ashley Young
James Milner
Fabian Delphi
Christian beneteke
Stuart downing
Ron valar.
1.) 10 Feb 2016 13:45:32
thanks for stating the obvious.
2.) 10 Feb 2016 14:02:11
These Americans supported there managers mate with a lot money they bought bad and your clubs suffered well that was the case with Villa anyway.
3.) 10 Feb 2016 14:36:49
Actually not heard any such advice from Liverpool or Manchester United fans. Could that be because they aren't about to be relegated.
4.) 10 Feb 2016 15:07:51
What a friendly bunch we are, he was offering a bit of advice which is dead true. These guys might be okay but some fans need to realise we don't have it half as bad as some teams but some Everton fans just love to moan. Where's the arteta money who we sold for 10 million. What about Newcastle selling Carroll for 35 million, where did that money go.
As for villa, Lerner hasn't put any money in yet sold Barry, Milner, downing and young for around 70 million. Sold benteke for 35 million and hasn't put a penny of that back in. Imagine if we sold lukaku in August and didn't spend any of that in the January window.
5.) 10 Feb 2016 15:35:15
villa did but benteke money back in on amavi guyge gusteded and ayew.
6.) 10 Feb 2016 15:40:39
Ask Martin oniell Honest blue.
7.) 10 Feb 2016 15:46:33
to the villa fan and his take on all the villa players THEY LEFT MATE because VILLA ARE GOD DAM WOEFUL nothing to do with owners they left because villa have no vision END OF.
{Ed025's Note - im with HB here, the guy comes on here with some friendly advice and got nothing but grief...his points were valid for me, we dont know these americans from adam and yet everyone thinks they are the second coming!, when the likes of moyes and pienaar left we were all saying "the grass is not always greener" and yet now it seems it is....come on guys i thought we were better than that..
8.) 10 Feb 2016 16:03:39
Hi honest blue
I wish the others could see my point of view
Yes learner did back O'neil
Top 6 3 years running didn't quite get to where Learner wanted to go
Learner then got bored
Never heard off him again
Went to Wembley to see our non final
And face in the paper
He appointed non football men
Not necessarily players reqd on the board but football men
He appointed
Business types "suits"
Look at the list
Paul lambert comes in spends 12 million
He was appointed by suits not football men
Told to cut wages due to O'neils reckless spending and wages ( everybody will sign and hold the club to ransom for wages as a Uncle Sam is footing the bill)
Then houiller (suit signing he had had a massive heart attack wasn't fit for the job but a big name to appease the
Fans)
Mcleash another suit appointment bought in cut wages further (master stroke by learner like Everton signing Roy Evans as manager everybody hated him already so what he done we just hated him more)
Sherwood needed a job no ties cheap appointment
Moyes was offered the job and turned it down
Remi Garde cheap appointment but looks a good bloke
But money was promised and didn't come
I am not bitter about relegation
I am bitter about a faceless chairman hiding behind others
Some investment works
Man city prime example, Leicester another success owner
But look at villa, Cardiff, hull wolves Leeds
I like Everton love the ground wooden seats and all
And I wish you well
Bill kenwright has your best at heart
But
So did Doug Ellis.
9.) 10 Feb 2016 16:09:04
Get a grip lads. The Villa poster didn't mean any harm. Who knows what's going to happen in the future.
Have to feel for Villa this season. Good club with a good history. Wouldn't be a team that I'd like to see relegated. Hope they return to premiership the following year if they go down. Which looks inevitable.
10.) 10 Feb 2016 16:51:04
Well said ed and NBTB, the guy has come on taunting us. I generally feel for villa, they are similar to ourselves in history and just goes to show that these chairman with no passion towards the club can get bored and stop spending.
Was a good point Bretto, didn't realise those players cost that much but there net spend is still minus for the season despite the sky money.
11.) 10 Feb 2016 17:05:11
forgot vertout to they spent around 35 mil on those who are young and not buy enough prem proven players I like villa myself but they have kept there deadwood to long like agbhonlor.
12.) 10 Feb 2016 16:12:42
Ed money was spent badly at Villa mate and they never recovered but there was a chance for them I don't think anybody was slating him but the same goes for the yanks that are looking at us they are getting slated left right and centre and they have not even announced there plans yet it's because Villa did not work out with there yank owners we can't tar them all with the same brush FsG are doing a great job with the Reds money seems to be always available new stand getting built Arsenal not doing bad just saying mate.
{Ed025's Note - i have no problem with the yanks taking over stef, we have no right to judge them one way or the other until we have first hand experience, i just thought the responses to charmed was uncalled for and less than friendly mate, he took the time to post and give his views on the takeover whats wrong with that?..i like to think we have a good bunch here who are fair and amicable and as supporters represent the club even on forums like this.......on a side note.. how about george shaw winning the everton goal of the month?...thats why i love this club..
13.) 10 Feb 2016 18:37:46
Spot on Ed025. Charmed was only giving the example of Villa and stating his opinion. Ok, he shouldn't of jumped to the conclusion that Stones and Barkley would be sold.
Apart from that I can't argue with anything he said. I trust Bill's judgment and will go with what he thinks is best. But even Bill said he can get it wrong at times as well.
As Ed025 says we will never know until we go through the motions. No one is saying for sure its going to be bad. No one can say for sure its going to go well either.
I think its good to get different opinions. Especially from posters from other clubs. Even if I don't agree with them. Everyone should be free to do so.
I'd like to think any Everton poster would get proper respect in another teams site. Only right imho.
14.) 10 Feb 2016 19:05:58
Yes that was a class act by the club ed and if this takeover goes through I don't think we will lose that class a I read Moores likes to put money into charity'sso efcitc should be ok and continued. Also I apologise to the Villa fan if I sounded ungreatfull for his info. Ed we as fans have been through the mill we have been let down so many times takeover here there and everywhere with no truth to it whatsoever, we have a board that won't invest but promised the sun moon and stars yet they want the council to build our new stadium, finally after all these years a takeover looks real and will possibly happen and then negativity comes from fans that have had experience from a takeover that did not go too well come on and give us there thoughts, we don't mean to be rude it's just we have all been longing for this for sometime and maybe we are just afraid deep down that this could be a mistake and just don't want to hear it . It's just down to fear and excitement.
{Ed025's Note - i hear you stef, but being rude is an excuse mate not a reason, dont get me wrong it was not abusive but we are nice guys here lets keep it that way..
15.) 10 Feb 2016 21:23:58
Thanks for the post charmed and I totally get what your saying about villas situation I feel for u mate. I don't think the fact that there American is the problem football is a business now mate and new owners that ain't sheiks or Russian gangsters are businessmen and youv got to hope a successful team is high on his agenda. For any negative comments youv received on here I don't think there is any malice In it at all I think I speak for a lot of evertonions when I say I'm sick of being average, sick
Of being the underdog. So I'm willing to take the risk and if it goes tits up so be it. But if it goes well and we get the stadium sorted ect that could be the base to remain a big force in domestic and European football for many years to come.
16.) 10 Feb 2016 22:02:46
Wow bit harsh on the kid there he's just giving his own experience with a yank owner can't see what he done there
Make no mistake villa are a big club and it must cripple there fans seeing what's going on there heaven forbid if we are ever in that position would any of us still have the graciousness to warn the next club that's changing ownership got to say bit disappointed reading some of that there think it's been said but we are better than this lads.
17.) 10 Feb 2016 23:17:59
Charmed, there are many different circumstances for the clubs you mentioned. Man U and our neighbours have high profiles around the globe so money was there to be made by taking them clubs on. With respect, our two clubs do not have that profile so taking either of us on is a bit different. I do hear what you are saying though but, if these Americans take us over, we will just have to see where it leads us. The very least we will do is support them until they give us an indication that they are here to asset strip. Maybe these will be the ones to buck the trend you speak of, we will have to wait and see mate, we just can't write them off as money grabbers due to other people of the same nationality doing so to other clubs.
{Ed025's Note - thats a fair point spud..
11 Feb 2016 10:34:58
Hi blue lain
Full respect mate know where you come from
Didn't mean to offend in any way
As I mentioned we have done Goodison
And Anfield a couple of times
Only had To take the lad to Newcastle, crystal palace,
Bournemouth Chelsea and he has done all the premier league grounds and he has done the lot befor his 16 birthday
Mr learner had put an end to that I suppose we will do the seaside grounds next season
It is only man city and now Leicester who have prospered with all the takeovers
The wheels have come off for Man U, Chelsea, Villa, QPR
Good to see Tottenham Everton doing it under there own steam
Interesting point though
Look how many managers Man C, Man U
Liverpool, Chelsea, villa have got though
All the best.
10 Feb 2016 16:03:39
Hi honest blue
I wish the others could see my point of view
Yes learner did back O'neil
Top 6 3 years running didn't quite get to where Learner wanted to go
Learner then got bored
Never heard off him again
Went to Wembley to see our non final
And face in the paper
He appointed non football men
Not necessarily players reqd on the board but football men
He appointed
Business types "suits"
Look at the list
Paul lambert comes in spends 12 million
He was appointed by suits not football men
Told to cut wages due to O'neils reckless spending and wages ( everybody will sign and hold the club to ransom for wages as a Uncle Sam is footing the bill)
Then houiller (suit signing he had had a massive heart attack wasn't fit for the job but a big name to appease the
Fans)
Mcleash another suit appointment bought in cut wages further (master stroke by learner like Everton signing Roy Evans as manager everybody hated him already so what he done we just hated him more)
Sherwood needed a job no ties cheap appointment
Moyes was offered the job and turned it down
Remi Garde cheap appointment but looks a good bloke
But money was promised and didn't come
I am not bitter about relegation
I am bitter about a faceless chairman hiding behind others
Some investment works
Man city prime example, Leicester another success owner
But look at villa, Cardiff, hull wolves Leeds
I like Everton love the ground wooden seats and all
And I wish you well
Bill kenwright has your best at heart
But
So did Doug Ellis.