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21 Feb 2018 05:05:56
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Also more posts are being added to the Everton Other Posts page

19 Feb 2018 21:22:40
So don't shoot the messenger but the club has had intitial talks with Eddie Howe. looks like it has legs and reliable source.

Believable7 4Unbelievable

19 Feb 2018 23:12:29
Have a thumbs up.

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19 Feb 2018 23:23:30
Don't want anything to do with him the guy is a poor man's Roberto Martinez. He plays nice football but is defensively clueless and the last thing we need unless we want to be relegated.

Agree5 5Disagree

20 Feb 2018 00:17:55
No they haven't because they'd ask permission like they did with Silva and it'd be public. Find a new source, Heinz is good :-)

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20 Feb 2018 14:10:06
Great shout with the Martinez comparison, play nice football at times, but horror show at the back and seems to only be interested in the attack side.

Agree1 1Disagree

20 Feb 2018 20:04:11
The club can speak to his agent/ representative without needing permission of his club, so they could have done this, as this is usually the case with players also.

Agree0 1Disagree

20 Feb 2018 20:09:14
Brian - As stated. Don't shoot the messenger. Afraid reliable so go cheer yourself up with some beans on toast, meanwhile SA or a bloke with a defined style and whose done an incredible job with a tiny club. I know who'd I take. Such a miserable negative fan base. I'm 37.seen nothing in all my adult/ teenage life apart from 1 cup. Get real.

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20 Feb 2018 22:24:18
Let's see how it pans out then eh?

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18 Feb 2018 14:48:43
Rhino for Fleetwood job.
Really strong rumours from people up here.
Theres even talk that they've met up this morning.

Believable2 0Unbelievable

18 Feb 2018 19:42:16
Good luck to him if he gets it, will help him in the long run good guy.

Agree3 0Disagree

11 Feb 2018 11:33:39
Good to see some positive posts on here, Posts that actually encourage participation instead of the constant moaning and false information that has become the "norm" on here as of late.

Did anyone else notice a big change in Pickford yesterday? He seemed a lot more aggressive in his saves, he was no longer happy just parrying the ball with his saves he was determined to clear the ball away from the danger area, every save he made he was pushing the ball away, good keeping in my book.

Yesterday showed why SA is a manager and we are not. Had some of you been listened to then Martina would no longer be with us nor would Sigi, Theo would not of been signed, Rooney would of been dropped and been retired off. Sometimes in life we all make stupid demands but that does not make us stupid people, what does make us stupid is when we continuously make those stupid demands.

Since SA has taken over we have only conceded 6 goals at home, 2 of those have been penalties, that is a massive improvement over both DU and RK, in fact over the same time span SA has more than doubled the average points per game (home and away) than RK. Now you can hit me with a bat and a rusty nail if that is not an improvement.

A lot of you have all of a sudden over the last week, been saying how much you supported SA when he first joined, Now I know I'm an old grumpy git but my memory is not that bad, The sheer malice has been here from the day he signed, many if not most have never supported him in the slightest. Some of you in fairness have given him a chance but for every positive post they make it tends to get drowned out by so many negative posts that trawling through them becomes tedious.

It has never been a secret that I have supported SA from the very beginning nor is it a secret that I will continue to support him until he gets replaced, He is our manager and will remain so until the powers that be decide otherwise. The fact that I do support does not mean that he was my first choice nor does it mean that I feel he is our long term solution but I do think he is the right choice for stabilising the club and getting it ready for a better manager to take over in the future. That is going to take at the very least another season. It may not pleasant but neither are most medicines.

I had decided in my in-formate wisdom not to post here again for the rest of the season and to only show up in live chat (which really is good, more of you should pop in on match days we always have some great debates) . Smit666 and GB have convinced me to return here and I would like to thank both of them for doing so. Now you all know who to blame for my return.

Believable7 34Unbelievable

11 Feb 2018 12:05:38
Hi Grumpy mate agree with you there 100% your post above sums us up to a tee, we have to get behind whoever is in charge and give em our total support, if Big Sam is moved on in the summer and Mr Moshiri brings in Fonesca or whoever then we will get behind them the same, We are Everton and we are better than a lot of posters on here try to make us, great to have you on here mate good posts as always KEEP IT UP, cheers.

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11 Feb 2018 12:39:58
Thanks GB mate.

My take on it is if we support Everton then MUST include everyone from the owners to the toffee lady, From the stewards to the tea ladies, Form EITC to all of the back room staff. We may not like the tea the tea lady makes, but we will make do until another comes along and in the mean time we will support her, Why? because she is part of Everton.

Agree5 24Disagree

11 Feb 2018 12:54:47
Easy post after a good result and decent showing mate. I know what your saying, yes we need to show support to the whole club. But a lot of the things said on here are people letting off steam after abysmal displays which you can't blame them for. Plus people theorise what's gone wrong what could be better, there is no problem with that as that is our perogative as fans and is part of this site. This is a site were people can voice there opinions and negative opinions are opinions. I like and admire the positivity but you can't push that onto others.

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11 Feb 2018 12:56:23
i swear to god i saw these same type of posts after the leeicester win yet after we got mauled at arsenal everyone turned the heat back on
one game doesn't cover up for what's been happening this whole season.

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11 Feb 2018 13:00:03
You are right there mate, put money on tho you will get some thumbs down lol.

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11 Feb 2018 13:17:16
BlueTit mate, can you not see the irony in what you said, " I like and admire the positivity but you can't push that onto others. " yet it seems acceptable to push the negativity onto others. the current trend seems to be to accept negativity and not to be positive.

Evertonthings you are right " one game doesn't cover up for what's been happening this whole season " and the key here is that is has been happening all season (your words not mine) , The problems we have were already here before SA joined us. Facts do not lie, at home we are far better under SA than we were under both RK and DU for the same amount of games. So I am sure that even the most ardent SA hater will have to agree that we are 50% there.

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11 Feb 2018 13:52:40
Of course they were here Grumpy mate before Big Sam ever set foot in the doors of Everton, some posters just will not grasp and accept it shame really, but you know the old saying the truth always hurts mate.

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11 Feb 2018 15:33:26
Opinions are opinions, posters are posters, eds are eds and we are all blues. Nothing will change and I love the input on here from everyone whether I think it is right or wrong. These posts make me think in other ways sometimes and I like that.
Welcome back Grumpy.

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11 Feb 2018 15:45:57
Thanks Smit mate you are exactly right. There are no right or wrong opinions but there are many that are different to how we perceive things.

None of my posts are intended to upset others, but I do try and give an alternative view on things and will always try and get people to think outside the box a little.

The biggest change in the club that has happened is the fan base, maybe it is time for us old farts to move aside, because sadly we do not really fit in anymore.

Agree2 12Disagree

11 Feb 2018 15:50:41
Too right mate good banter is good for everyone.

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11 Feb 2018 17:59:55
You will always got in grumpy.

Agree3 1Disagree

11 Feb 2018 19:20:19
You know I disagree with you Grumpy mate, but I love your post, it would be boring if we all think the same.

Agree4 1Disagree

11 Feb 2018 19:25:17
opinions are the best thing mate.

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11 Feb 2018 20:46:38
Cheers Stig mate, missed you in live chat yesterday, hope all is well your end mate.

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11 Feb 2018 22:13:53
Brilliant original post Grumpy. Totally agree with everything you said.

Agree3 7Disagree

12 Feb 2018 10:47:12
Thanks NBTB mate.

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12 Feb 2018 12:15:10
Honestley mate, I see no irony whatsoever in what i said.

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12 Feb 2018 15:50:25
Sorry Blue-tit mate you're right I meant hypocrisy, no idea why I said irony sorry.

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13 Feb 2018 07:42:49
Grumpy you keep mentioning about "preparing the club for a better manager. What is it you mean by this exactly? Do you think all clubs should use a prep manager? because when most clubs sack a manager it's because things aren't going well so is everyone else missing a trick in not using a prep manager to get the club ready to appoint a good manager?

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13 Feb 2018 09:42:37
Lets not be pedantic Toffeewavey you Know exactly what I mean.

Agree1 4Disagree

13 Feb 2018 15:27:27
Nor do i see any hypocrisy.

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13 Feb 2018 17:11:55
Let me explain.

You seem to find it ok to put negative views regarding SA onto people yet at the same time tell people who are putting positives views onto people they are wrong for doing it.

That Sir is hypocrisy.

" I like and admire the positivity but you can't push that onto others. " (your words mate not mine)

Agree1 4Disagree

13 Feb 2018 17:43:14
Grumpy I think you are fighting a losing battle on this one, but I completely agree with you. Everton fans are a fickle bunch.
We had a manager that loved to play attacking football so much so that he never closed a game out in Martinez, the fans moaned and we got rid.
We then got in a "Future Barcelona" manager and that turned to crap.
Now we have a manager that is practical, and taken us from bottom 3 to 2 points from 7th and that is not good enough.
I just wish fans would make up their minds what they want.

Agree2 1Disagree

13 Feb 2018 18:57:20
I think you're right Sidneytheblue I am fighting an un - winnable battle but I have enjoyed the fight.

Got to think of something for next week now mate.

Agree1 1Disagree

13 Feb 2018 22:43:14
I didn't push negative views onto anybody. I just made a comment and your being pissy about it because its wasnt fully agreeing with your opinion. that's sir is being a pretentous srcastic little boy (or girl) .

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14 Feb 2018 08:59:23
Here we go.

Blue-tit here is another fact for you. When any kind of debate reaches the stage that one of the parties strays away from the original subject matter and resorts to personal attacks, that person has run out of anything constructive to say.

Debate is now closed for me.

{Ed025's Note - good idea..

Agree2 1Disagree

17 Feb 2018 13:17:15
My original post was made in soft manner. You called me hypocrtitical in a pretentious manner. I called that out. You were being 'pissy' I called it out. You can't be abraisive and act like the response is out of turn. Now, its closed for me.

Agree2 2Disagree

17 Feb 2018 17:31:20
It's like being back in the school playground on here sometimes. 🙃😋.

Agree1 1Disagree

11 Feb 2018 10:04:28
Hi ed002 in the summer could are Everton considering Fonseca and Chelsea doing the same with Marco Silva thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any recent approach from Everton to Shakhtar for PF but he was the coach originally advised to Moshiri.}

Believable0 0Unbelievable

11 Feb 2018 13:05:53
Cheers ed our club is a mess behind the scenes with the board divided into two sides and it’s affecting the club right the way through it it’s not good.

{Ed002's Note - I don’t know what you mean.}

Agree0 2Disagree

11 Feb 2018 13:25:32
Bill and farhad are let’s say in a tug of war and there people are not talking between them sleeves and each side haven’t got a clue what’s been said to let’s say a players agent.

Agree0 4Disagree

11 Feb 2018 14:41:23
The truth is that big Sam has taken on average 1.5 points a game since being announced (inc the West Ham game) , on this form had he been in charge from the start of the season we would be 7th 3 points behind Arsenal! He’s exactly what we need right now and poor football or not we’re harder to beat and winning the games we should be with the odd exception. Under RK and DU we took 1.08 points per game, Based on that we’d be 2 points at best from the bottom 3! Support Sam, support the team and save the moaning for when it’s really needed!

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11 Feb 2018 15:39:28
Are you on the board eddy?

{Ed002's Note - You understood what he meant then? Are your people talking to his people. And this agent?}

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11 Feb 2018 16:00:17
Good post Toffeehead.

I thought RK and DU was o.68 points average per game but I am more than happy to accept your figures.

Agree1 1Disagree

11 Feb 2018 16:43:55
Not a clue ed! But it sounds like he personally knows bill and farhad and there both confiding in him that there not talking to eachother and he must no an agent or two who are telling him that bill says one thing and farhad says another?!?!?!

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11 Feb 2018 19:11:17
Hey GT happy to admit the 1.08 is an error, they got 12 points from 13, with Sam we have 22 from 14!

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12 Feb 2018 19:15:41
so let me get this right eddy has a view about what's happening in our club and I have also heard the same thing when Sam was being looked at (Walsh wanted him Moshiri didnt) which I'm sure was mentioned on this very site and now he has brought it up people want to have a little dig at him how pathetic.

Agree0 1Disagree

12 Feb 2018 22:06:03
It's nothing Bluey79 compared to the digs people get if they have any positive opinions regarding SA. Not nice is it?

Agree0 0Disagree

11 Feb 2018 00:17:12
3 our of the next 4 games away, don’t get carried away with this 7th place talk. We’re rubbish away, However if SA plays attacking footballs we’ll have a chance. Try parking the bus we’re dead in the water. Are you listening SAM?

Believable2 7Unbelievable

11 Feb 2018 14:18:01
actually, our fixtures away aren't that difficult, watford have just come back off a defeat, i think we have good chances to get at least a draw there, burnley have really stagnated for some reason and i can actually see us getting a win there, brighton at home should be a win, and stoke again are really struggling, especially considering that paul lambert has typically had a poor home record with the clubs he's managed because of his counter attacking style of football (i think it was at villa where i got this stat, my memory might be wrong and quite frankly i'm too lazy to look it up, if i'm wrong then please point it out) all in all i'd say the next few games are quite good for us.

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11 Feb 2018 14:27:21
just for fun i'll be predicting our results for the fixtures after that
we should lose against man city, i think we might nick something from liverpool (not sure if its a win or not) , i think swansea will beat us, i can't really see us beating newcastle at home because i just don't think sam is good enough of a manager to break down a defence set up by rafa benetiz even with a squad with inferior talent such as newcastle, huddersfield, ehh, they'll probably be fighting for their lives so i'll say we lose there, southampton should already be relegated by then so i think we'll win at home against them and a draw at west ham.

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11 Feb 2018 16:10:15
Some good forecasts Evertonthings.

Sadly I have to disagree with the Liverpool one I think they will beat us, I do think it will be a very tight game and would be happy if we drew. 0 - 0 or 0 - 1 against Huddersfield.

I think a lot of results will be dependant on how we fare against Watford and Burnley. If we win those two games it will alter the rest of the season for us and how we play, the most important thing is we keep clean sheets in open play.

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11 Feb 2018 00:12:36
So now press saying we're in for Fonseca. another change? Ed002 any info? This scattergun approach is diabolical, that's unless there's a plan. I'd prefer stability, a plan with the right people in the right jobs making sensible decisions. For Everton to make progress it's going to take some time. we're miles and miles behind yet we seem to be going backwards with the current approach.

Believable0 5Unbelievable

11 Feb 2018 09:14:24
So you would stick with Big Sam then mate, no chance.

Agree2 2Disagree

11 Feb 2018 09:57:00
They have to fill the papers with something boys. Wouldn’t pay too much attention to rumours of new managers. Sam is already planning for next season! We wouldn’t have been happy if he’d played open, expansive football and got us relegated. In a tight league, he’s managed the fixtures and it’s worked. We all had higher expectations for the season but the bad start never gave us a chance. Get the youngsters back in, work out who can go (Martina, Williams. ) and who we need to have the squad to push on next season.

Agree1 1Disagree

07 Feb 2018 20:42:05
Glenn Hoddle for DoF anybody. The bloke knows his stuff.

Believable13 6Unbelievable

07 Feb 2018 22:06:18
I think Hoddle would be a great shout! Can you have a word with him.

{Ed002's Note - he would but he is not an option.}

Agree8 2Disagree

07 Feb 2018 23:34:39
Ed002: Why?

{Ed002's Note - He has no interest and is concentrating his efforts on somethhing else outside of England.}

Agree0 2Disagree

08 Feb 2018 10:11:16
Ed002: thanks for the info.

Agree0 0Disagree

08 Feb 2018 10:24:22
He got his soccer academy. Think it's in Spain? One of his graduates pla6ed for Newport last night.

{Ed002's Note - Right.}

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08 Feb 2018 11:18:59
at this moment i'd take him as manager.

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08 Feb 2018 22:01:37
at this minute I would take ED01 as our manager.

{Ed001's Note - thanks, I think.}

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09 Feb 2018 12:08:29
and Ed002 as DOF, what a combination.

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11 Feb 2018 10:06:57
Can we have a think about that one? Think Ed002 would make Peter Jonson look like an Evertonian.

{Ed002's Note - Fonseca would be a good option and as I explained before he was the advise Moshiri was given originally. I am not aware of any recent approach by Everton to Shakhtar.}

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11 Feb 2018 14:18:55
Totally agree and i think Fonseca a great option. If we can't get him i'd still be happy with Silva though.
We need someone young, progressive and wanting to make a name and build a dymasty.
Not a Sam Allardyce who wants to increase his bank balance.

Agree0 0Disagree

07 Feb 2018 00:55:42
We've enquired about Evra LB.
Hes NOT banned for PL games only European
However West Ham United also interested.

Believable1 1Unbelievable

07 Feb 2018 01:08:05
It’s come to this?

Agree2 1Disagree

07 Feb 2018 03:22:58
Hopefully West Ham sign him.

Agree3 4Disagree

07 Feb 2018 06:45:47
He prefers London not sure why t hey want a LB though they have Cresswell and the spitter.

Agree0 1Disagree

07 Feb 2018 19:46:34
So manno you would prefer Martina?

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07 Feb 2018 21:13:17
Eds say that the Club does read these HYS. It is not mere coincidence that after a few comments yesterday with regards to Evra and what our current DoF is doing, stories surfaced that Everton was also interested in him (Evra) . Then there is the other titbit that Mr Walsh is being sent to Germany to keep tabs on Lookman. A personal opinion only but why springs to mind, after Mr Walshes record since being appointed DoF!

{Ed025's Note - i can only guess mate..

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07 Feb 2018 23:24:02
Sorry wakka. While I am not overly happy with Martina, I would prefer him over Evra. I would have preferred Garbutt and Galloway to be given the opportunity to fight it out, the competition between the two may have brought out the best in both players, but we will never know. Big Sam is too scared to experiment too much, and I can not blame him for that. He was hired to keep us in the PL, nothing more and nothing less.

Agree1 1Disagree

08 Feb 2018 08:31:45
Not sure what has happened to Garbutt a couple of seasons ago he looked good in Europa matches? but Galloway is not good enough for me.

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10 Feb 2018 18:47:46
Big Sam afraid to experiment too much? From what i have seen he experiments and changes the team every game. No consistency whatsoeve. That i believe is why we are so hit and miss (mainly miss) this season.

Agree0 1Disagree

11 Feb 2018 02:02:25
Noooo. Weve been linked in the press with Fonseca since Koeman went. I believe we approached him but his CL involvement scuppered that.
He has stated himself that the PL interests him. let's get it done and get it done early. he's young, likes attacking football, could well lay down a dynasty here and his attributes as a coach has been acknowledged by Guadiola himself.
Just do it!

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11 Feb 2018 10:10:17
There is an obsession with 'anyone but Martina'. He has had some poor games but also some good ones - yesterday being one of them.
People who have never seen Garbutt play - or at least not in years - shouting for him. He hardly got picked at Fulham. Ditto Galloway at both WBA and Sunderland. Do you think all these people get it wrong but they be great in an Everton shirt?

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11 Feb 2018 13:20:14
Dave1878: you make a good point, mate.

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05 Feb 2018 17:13:04
Ed 002 (especially) , please don't castigate me too greatly for speculating baselessly, but given what you all know of the mindset of the board and the key players, is there any possibility being given to dispensing with Allardyce and moving on Silva now, as opposed to the summer? (if indeed Silva remains well thought of) .

{Ed002's Note - To the best of my knowledge the board are not looking to move SA and CS on at this time. As for Marco Silva, he is speaking to another English side right now so I would not hold your breath.}

Believable0 0Unbelievable

05 Feb 2018 19:07:52
I don’t want Silva. He either got totally distracted by our interest or he completely lost the plot. Either way there’s something not right there.

Agree5 2Disagree

05 Feb 2018 20:03:40
Ed002.I have heard that SA is astonished at the mental strength of our first team, which requires addressing but surely the recruitment/ management of the purchases is a huge issue. Is to your knowledge Steve Welshe's position under review in anyway as he clearly is no DOF?

{Ed002's Note - Honestly, I keep having to answer the same questions over and over - please read the posts, use the search engine.}

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05 Feb 2018 22:19:20
Equally cursed and blessed then. Cheers Ed002, much obliged.

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05 Feb 2018 14:24:58
i know i picked fonseca, sarri or gallardo as my top 3 managers before but how about arteta? a lot of good things getting talked about him being a top coach.

Believable4 4Unbelievable

05 Feb 2018 16:13:50
Someone who knows the club snd is respected in the me. If Guardiola rates him as a coach, we could expect some classy football - not like the shower of s we’re watching now. Why not I say.

Agree2 3Disagree

05 Feb 2018 16:45:06
not for me we need someone who has managed at the top level.

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05 Feb 2018 19:11:00
I like the idea of Arteta. There’s definitely something about him for PG to use him. I’d be very interested to see what he could do if he came back as coach/ manager.

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05 Feb 2018 20:14:40
Im sure i read the other day that Man City blocked him from joining the Welsh national team as coach, as he is thought of very highly as a coach.

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05 Feb 2018 21:05:23
I think arteta could be a successful manager at a high level in the future, it is possible. POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE, being the most important words.

Agree1 1Disagree

06 Feb 2018 09:30:32
Arteta was a great player during his time for us, I can't question that. I do wonder why he is still lauded by a section of our fans for the way he dumped on us from a great height when he moved on. This was the man who wanted us to break the bank, back in those days of abject austerity, a man who took a pay cut to get his move.

A man who turned Arsenal down at tea time only to change his mind with an hour or two to spare on deadline day, giving us no chance of finding a replacement.
As much as I liked the player, I have lost respect for the man.

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06 Feb 2018 14:36:58
i don't think you can lose respect for a man who gave his all for us then a good career move came his way and he took it mate i think taking the pay cut is a reason to respect him he moved purely for football reasons and not financial gain.

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06 Feb 2018 16:37:19
It was more the way he went about things to be honest johny1989, he held us to ransom for a while over a new deal which would have smashed our wage structure at the time. So to take a pay cut in the 11th hour giving us no time to replace him is a bit naughty imo. It just goes to show how fickle fans can be. Rooney left to win trophies but was castigated for many years, Arteta does it and there is nothing really said!

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08 Feb 2018 18:36:54
I can't believe we loan out Lookman, what is sam doing ed? Can anyone not see that the future front 4 is Lookman, Henry oyenkuru, sigurson, an Walcott up centre dash that is a scary line up you can play 2 holding midfielders with them 4 as well, pace, direct, power, and goals from all of them. What do you think? .

{Ed025's Note - i think your right don, sooner we get shut of this clown the better mate..

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