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04 May 2016 12:54:43
A lot of people saying they think Rom should go. He thinks he's too good for the club. he wants to play CL football, even though he can't even take pens properly! And a couple of clubs he's linked with. one will struggle for CL and the other even less chance. I couldn't agree more! My missus has been saying it all season because of the way he minces round the pitch. And all I've been saying is "his goals though" you no what, she's been right all along! I agree with the other poster he came back from international duty thinking he's too big for the club. Let him go and take the money to buy players who actually want to play for the club. Should never of let Naismith go. oh and my missus for manager!
{Ed002's Note - {Ed002's Note - Bayern Munich have watched Everton's Romelu Lukaku on several occasions this season and Real Madrid see him as a possible replacement for Benzema - if they are able to sell him and cannot get their first pick. Manchester United has shown no interest nor declared any interest in Lukaku at this time. If the club are to look to a centre forward at some point he may well be one option the club look to in the future - but for now, nothing. PSG have had scouts watch Lukaku on more than one occasion and with Ibrahimovic leaving and Cavani very probably leaving as well they are working with some "agents" to bring in a couple of very high end players - and Lukaku is now an option for them - with the PSG head coach watching him play very recently. There is a significant dependency as to whether they will follow this up. There is also a dialog open with Juventus regarding Lukaku and they should be considered the fourth player in this matter at this time. Tentative Dortmund interest is dependent on (a) Aubameyang leaving, which he will, and (b) the cost being affordable for them, which I doubt it will be. For now, not a player in this saga. As for Chelsea, there are no loopholes or secret clauses in his contract that Chelsea can use to buy him cheaply nor are there any "buy back" or other clauses that benefit them in any way. There is still support for him from both his orginal player liaison chap who fought hard, albeit unsuccessfully, for months for Chelsea to give him a second chance after the original incident and from an ex-player who Lukaku has spoken to. However, there were two people at the club who were particularly offended and they would both need to agree to sanction a deal before Chelsea would make any offer.}
1.) 04 May 2016 13:46:32
Will you ever reveal what Rom did, Ed? Must have been something huge.
{Ed002's Note - It is of no relevance to you.}
2.) 04 May 2016 14:49:27
Ed002: I accept that "celebrity gossip" is of no relevance to the ordinary punters, but it clearly is of interest (subtle difference to relevance! ) as shown by the amount of broadcast/ press media and social media that is devoted to it. On that basis, any salacious story about the original incident would have sped around the media at the time and been common knowledge by now. Whatever may or may not have happened, if it doesn't affect our player while at our club, then who - apart from the pruriently inquisitive - cares a jot?
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what point you are trying to make.}
3.) 04 May 2016 17:13:40
"gossip" aside. Are we worried that his value may have fallen considering how awful he has been of late, highlighted in the semi?
4.) 04 May 2016 20:18:55
The point Sid is trying to make is that while it has no 'relevance' to us, it is still of interest and we would all like to know.
5.) 04 May 2016 20:49:16
I personally don't care what he has done, Lukaku is probably the sole reason we have not been in a relagation fight this year, I can't believe some evertonian want him sold, we haven't had a 20 plus goals a season striker since god know when, we shouldn't allow him to leave without a fight, we need to get a manager with a high reputation that might, be able to convince him to stay on one more season, if Rom decides not to, then I personally would wish him well, he has the potential to play for a regular champs league side .
6.) 05 May 2016 09:58:08
@bluedanny
You say Lakaku is the sole reason we have not been in a relegation fight, I beg to differ.
You see he now strolls around as though he is doing us a favour, like we should be grateful that he is playing for us.
Like he has outgrown us and he's far too good to wear that blue shirt.
Well I think the likes of Dixie, Andy Gray, Sharp, and let's not forget world cup winner, yes world cup winner, Alan Ball, who once said, 'once Everton has touched you nothing else is ever quite the same' would put him right in his place.
He's not too good for us, we are Everton and he should be grateful he is playing for us, he should crawl to Goodison on his hands and knees and beg to play.
That Chelsea game, the FA cup when he scored that great goal and all the crowd were singing his name, it was deafening, the hairs on my neck were standing up for him, then he goes to Belgium and basically say's he wants to leave, well that was the day he told me all I need to know about him.
He has no clue what it means to play for one of the greatest clubs on earth, because that's what we are.
The sooner we get rid of the loser mentality the better.
Hopefully we now have a winner in the boardroom and he will see how we are geared up from top to bottom to NOT win anything. Hopefully he will see that we are semi final team at best, and he will show the club how to go on and start winning things again. Hopefully he will see what a proud history we have, and hopefully he will read what Alan Ball said and realise just what a fantastic club with brilliant supporters he has.
End of rant
By the way danny, I'm not aiming at you my friend, just this whole mess we find ourselves in.
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05 Jun 2016 12:25:26
Ed seen a few outlets reporting RK being offered 7mil a year! Haha! Obviously that's rubbish, as I see it, he hasn't even finished contract talks yet and the very idea the media are present, reporting back as it happens is ridiculous!
Think Moyes was 1mil a year if I'm not wrong?
What would you expect a club in our new situation to be offering a manager like RK? With his track record, do you think it will be a short term contract with a view to extend depending on his success?
Surely 7mil will be way off the mark anyway?
{Ed002's Note - I really don't like discussing money with football fans.}
1.) 05 Jun 2016 12:50:36
I'm also a money fan!
2.) 05 Jun 2016 13:18:14
Martinez was on 3m a year so if Koeman were on 7m a year that would make him 4th highest in prem alongside Koop I wish our fans will see bigger picture with regards to Moshiri, kenwright has for years taken over a decade to make biggest decision of his life to find someone to take Everton to another level we have the financial backing to compete with the elite clubs now and have more business contacts which will open up new streams of revenue and a new stadium which will get built now this guy is here, the day Moshiri stepped in, the giant is starting to awake. Football will always have cycles and I have a feeling the next decade will be a successful period.
3.) 05 Jun 2016 13:21:33
Mones was on far more than 1m. He was very highely paid by us. Retorted to be around 5m. Think about it, is a manager going to be happy on less than 20k a week (I know, poor them) when they have players on 5 or 6 times that.
4.) 05 Jun 2016 13:33:53
Moyes at one time was the second highest paid manager behind Fergie but I find this hard to believe, but I believe he was on £5 million a year that is why he stayed at Everton so long and for me was worth every penny.
5.) 05 Jun 2016 13:24:39
I don't think 6-7mil is that far off the mark tbh. In todays football that's nothing. Plus wr would have to offer bigger wages to attract coaches in the higher end as we don't have european football next season.
03 Jun 2016 11:13:44
Really don't get the attraction of Koeman. He's managerial record is full of initial success followed by deteriation and sackings. Who does that sound like. and people have also said to me, look what he has done at Southampton. Yes he got sixth! Now who does that sound like? I also hear people going on about how we are being linked with mangers of his stature is a massive step up, we'll clearly he isn't! Honestly think our fans don't know how to aspire to greater ambition. Obviously it isn't the fans decision however it looks like our man in the hot seat is on board. As you can tell I'm very underwhelmed by this possibility if there is a variable I am missing please feel free to enlighten me.
1.) 03 Jun 2016 11:57:38
Yes I looked up his full record an he seems to do well for a couple of years then it all goes pair shaped, so if we get him we should get rid of him in two years maybe.
That is why Emery did become my number one as his overall record is fantastic.
He does have one advantage over Emery, he has managed well in the prem and can handle top players leaving as that will happen ie Lukaku, Stones and maybe more. He also gives youth a chance so let's get behind him and hope it all works out, he has done well at Southamton.
2.) 03 Jun 2016 12:01:41
Please enlighten us all on what we should aspiring to then? Who would your choice be?
3.) 03 Jun 2016 12:25:21
Simeone, Emery, even de-boar all better prospects. When you say "us all" does that mean you speak for everyone I take it? Because I seem to remember this was the case when Martinez was appointed and now it "why did we appoint a manager who had just been relegated. Oh and I suppose Simeone is unrealistic for a club like us now too.
4.) 03 Jun 2016 12:39:49
C'mon Smithy give the guy a break 'figure of speech' and so on.
Yes Simeone and like you say he is out of our reach, FDB?
Then Neil Lennon may have been a good prospect while he was riding high in the SPL!
Emery and Monchi was all the talk yesteday but that was yesterday!
As for the RM coming here I was dead against him he was a PL failure. . . 'fact' as they say!
Is RK a PL failure?
5.) 03 Jun 2016 13:09:29
"Honestly think our fans don't know how to aspire to greater ambition"
"Our fans" does relate to us all? your words not mine! Pot Kettle Black?
Koeman - Prem experience and has done well for 2 seasons in a row now, safe pair of hands for me and a big enough name to attract decent players.
Simone - Does not speak English and this would be a massive disadvantage. He also turned the Russian Rubles so highly unlikely he would come to EFC
De-Boar - by all accounts RM in disguise, if you where so against RM I would assume you would know better. Maybe not eh
Emery - Would be my second choice.
6.) 03 Jun 2016 13:36:35
What link do you make between de boar and RM? He's sucess at Ajax is considerably better than Koreans.
Koeman did well the past two seasons? Well let's sign him them! Are we signing a mangers on his recent form at Southampton really? He got sixth with limited assets! Explain how that's a step up from Moyes?
7.) 03 Jun 2016 14:08:40
If you think Koeman and Moyes are in the same mould you have just lost your argument mate.
And as you said he got sixth with limited assets whilst losing assets at the same time.
8.) 03 Jun 2016 16:23:05
All these choices seem pretty good exept for De Boer who is another Martinez he would take us down I reckon.
I rate Koeman as being in the same class as Moyes which means I rate him highly.
He has one avantage over Moyes and that is he will not get stick from day one from the Evertonians with very very short memories.
Whoever gets the job will have a difficult start as RM has left us in a complete mess with no squad to talk about.
13 May 2016 07:32:44
Why does everyone want Koeman? His career has been a bit dodgy for me. He didn't achieve anything like what de-boar has a Ajax. Read Koemans career record. His managerial career has been shaky to say the least.
{Ed025's Note - it seems to work at the saints smithy, FDB has won the eredivsie four times out of six but its a 2 horse race and he has been riding the favourite, toss of a coin for me mate..
1.) 13 May 2016 08:00:37
BNS
Steve McClaren had success in Holland and Neil Lennon had success in Scotland mate!
Would you have either of those 2?
I admit the comparison isn't good however FDB needs to be in a top league i. e. several top clubs fighting tooth and nail etc. and win it, for him to be the best candidate so far surely?
2.) 13 May 2016 08:09:16
Koeman having lost plenty of his players done brilliant. At the beginning of the season Southampton weren't doing good but when Koeman found his feet and dealt with the players they lost they improved. He knew how to turn things around and they are finishing the season strong. Wasn't happy with our last appointment when it happened.
I would be over the moon if we got Koeman.
3.) 13 May 2016 08:23:49
The job Koeman has done at Southampton has gone down vastly underrated. He has had to continually sell his best players and been tipped for relegation but yet has finished top 8 in both seasons. People comparing him to Moyes isn't right either as he plays good football and doesn't bottle it against the big teams. I think they have beaten Liverpool, man city, Chelsea and Man U this season. He also isn't scared to drop under performers, pelle, tadic and mane were dropped when there form wasn't there. I think he is what we need, it is if we can convince him to leave Southampton. Would also be happy with fdb or bilesa.
4.) 13 May 2016 08:23:49
sorry forgot one more thing on Koeman
The Southampton manager has his side on course to break their Premier League points record for a second consecutive season, and Everton will reportedly persuade him to join with the promise of a £100m transfer kitty SSN.
5.) 13 May 2016 08:28:30
Regarding McClaren, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Winning it once is a bit different to winning it 4 times in a row.
6.) 13 May 2016 08:39:18
True Hugo but he did win if with Fc Twente and not Ajax. Though to be fair to fdb Ajax hadn't won it for like 6 years before he took over.
7.) 13 May 2016 08:46:54
''winning it 4 times in a row. ''
Winning what though?
05 May 2016 16:03:44
A new manager will not be discussed till the end of the season I believe that they will move Bobby on. No idea who will replace him or who should. I would like Simone, but that's not going to happen. So my question is how big a job does everyone think rebuilding Everton will be? Same question to the eds? Will it be looking g road back to 5th place and challenging for the top 4? We have new money now but will that be a quick road to the top or not? And then there is players to consider. A new manager will have players in and out to deal with. thoughts welcomed.
{Ed025's Note - i dont think if we get a new manager he should set any targets smithy, that was part of bobbys downfall and i think just try to finish as high as you can would do for me mate and take it from there..
1.) 05 May 2016 19:43:22
I can't see a new manager coming in to be told "Just try and do better than RM". Whenever I moved to a new company as a manager I was given an objective, a target, and a timeframe in which to deliver. Mr Morishi is not going to let someone come in and have a go. He will give them a clear objective of qualifying for Europe, a target of a major trophy, continued success, and a timescale of say 2 years to get it rolling. He expects his investment to grow by success. That is why if they do let go of RM I see only a proven manager been trusted with the challenge he will set. Fools buy into a club to lose money and he is no fool according to business circles.
{Ed025's Note - pressure to achieve targets especially high ones actually achieves very little in my humble opinion nick, there is a re-building job to do at everton after the debacle of this season and stabilization of the club is paramount for me, bring in some new talent and ship out some of the lesser lights and players who dont want to be here i say, then hopefully after a bedding in period we can start to plan for the future...after all we dont want some guy coming in and promising us CL football then falling flat on his face do we mate?.. :)
2.) 05 May 2016 20:13:38
Appreciate and respect your reply ed, but Mr Abramovich has not done too badly with his demands at Chelsea. I agree there is a huge amount of work to do at Everton, but sometimes things have to run parallel. Let's get qualifying for europe while we build a new stadium and lay foundations for the future etc. Agree we don't want someone promising CL football. We want someone who will get CL football and on demand.
Have you any thoughts on who might replace RM if he does go?
{Ed025's Note - in a perfect world i would agree with you nick but maybe slowly slowly catchee monkey is the order of the day first season and hope that we move in the right direction without the pitfalls of expectation, i dont think the club know themselves who would be the best replacement for bobby mate (if he does go) and there will be a process in place and prospective managers interviewed before anything is decided i expect..
3.) 05 May 2016 20:21:19
I agree with you both Ed and Nick.
I think he will be set targets and a timescale but the bar won't be too high.
A couple of years to settle the ship, then maybe have a sit down and reset the targets.
As much as it's gloomy right now there is a lot to look forward too.
In his first statement Moshiri didn't say much, but at the same time he gave me a sense of ambition.
He mentioned a new stadium, I can't see him wanting to go through all that rigmarole without having a cracking team to play in it.
{Ed025's Note - fair points them frank..
22 Apr 2016 18:19:16
Hi Ed can you let Paul imp know I'll buy his tickets.
{Ed025's Note - i dont have his number smithy, the only way it can work is that paul and yourself will have to post me your phone number, which will be deleted before anyone sees it, and i will text one of you with the others number so that you can sort things out mate....i have just got your e-mail address liam and will pass it on to paul if he sends his details in..
1.) 22 Apr 2016 19:24:27
do you know its only train tickets, not match tickets?
2.) 22 Apr 2016 19:30:42
how do I send you my details ed025.?
{Ed025's Note - i have them now paul...or just send me your number and i will text you liams e-mail mate..
3.) 22 Apr 2016 20:50:11
come on bluenosesmith, just let us know if you want the train tickets, I have another person contacting me,
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07 Jun 2016 16:33:47
And do you think that would be a good or bad thing Ed?
{Ed002's Note - The full breakaway will happen regardless of UEFAs efforts to try and keep control over what happens. For me it will be a good thing for a small number of clubs who will dominate the money, and the future of the game. For many clubs life will change, the money will be less and the cloth will need to be cut accordingly. For many, many other clubs they will need to adjust to what will likely be a completely reorganised league and lifestyle - probably on a regional basis - if they are going to survive. It will be a rather sad end for some BNS.}
07 Jun 2016 15:39:44
Wouldn't it be something if players just honoured their contractsite and there was need for all these loop holes. Imagine how different the football landscape would look then.
You would probably find a lot more young players would get a chance to come in from the academysite as it wouldn't be so easy to just go and buy a player.
I suppose there would be pros and cons.
{Ed002's Note - These aren't loopholes. One day when their is a pan-European breakaway the other leagues will need to reorganise and then you might get your wish.}
07 Jun 2016 15:31:15
Wasn't that the same day Carl frock fought George groves in front of 80,000 fans at Wembley. .
05 Jun 2016 12:50:36
I'm also a money fan!
03 Jun 2016 13:36:35
What link do you make between de boar and RM? He's sucess at Ajax is considerably better than Koreans.
Koeman did well the past two seasons? Well let's sign him them! Are we signing a mangers on his recent form at Southampton really? He got sixth with limited assets! Explain how that's a step up from Moyes?