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10 Oct 2018 17:39:40
am i the only one who is shocked at the fools online who are calling tosun a flop and hoping he's sold in the transfer window?

Lad puts a shift in every time he is on the pitch has a goal and 2 assists playing as a lone striker which is a thankless role as your only really there to get the odd goal but mainly to make space for the other forward running in.
i wouldn't mind us bringing in competition but jesus let the lad have a season under marko before the he's a flop shouts come out.

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10 Oct 2018 19:53:44
I would like him to see the season out too. I sometimes wonder if he gets too eager in front of goal and fluffs it. From what I have seen he puts a shift in and seems to get in positions. Maybe with another striker to play with he could come good, but Marco will be the judge and jury and rightly so.

10 Oct 2018 20:30:56
I also think he is a cracking player and would like to see him get a full season at least.

10 Oct 2018 21:11:21
You are right there Nick mate leave it to the men who know,

11 Oct 2018 07:52:30
The fans at his previous club adore him. He has played less than half a season with us. He has come from a totally different culture. He is eager to please us fans. Look on the net to see his previous goals! Why are we debating this? Because he has had a handful of games and has lost a bit of confidence? Young Tom Davies is the same. 20 years old and the manager already makes him captain. Scores a wonder goal against Man City. Has a little loss of form and some fans want him "rid". They think they are playing FIFA 2018 I think!

11 Oct 2018 08:52:46
i agree silva knows best . Its just the online stories i keep seeing on news now, "EVERTON FANS WANT TOSUN GONE" followed by twitter warriors ranting how bad he is, some people don't no anything about football and should not make fools of themselves online.

11 Oct 2018 10:07:17
I don’t want him gone. He’s a goal scorer who just needs to find his rhythm. And let’s face it. Any striker who hasn’t proved himself in the prem will be as much of a gamble as was Tosun. So let’s not be too quick to offload this guy and end up gambling and getting someone worse.

11 Oct 2018 12:30:43
Agree Degsy, FIFA 2018 has a lot to answer for. Everyone thinks there a bloody expert.

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10 Oct 2018 10:58:13
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09 Oct 2018 22:45:00
Just logged on. wow I have missed some fun tonight on here. Ed's and posters at each others throats! Get some perspective guys. I thought I was the miserable angry one! It's football and its emotional but to the extent of bursting blood vessels!

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09 Oct 2018 23:58:01
Best to keep out of it degsyp. The Ed's especially Ed02 are great at giving us information and I for one am very grateful, best leave it at that.

10 Oct 2018 07:37:32
So am I BluMike, we only read some of what was said.

10 Oct 2018 07:46:44
Yes BlueMike1. I was just trying to say that sometimes we all get a little heated and I for one have done it in the past but yes. without the Ed's this site does not exist. but likewise, without the posters. this site does not exist. I think it is deep breath time and leave it for now. Respect to all!

10 Oct 2018 19:48:19
You've got to remember the Eds have the last say and can kick you off the site.

10 Oct 2018 20:00:40
I used to check out both the rumor and banter pages for this forum quite a lot. Over the past few months though I find that I sadly visit and comment less and less. My impression is that views have gotten a little extreme and the overall mood ranges anywhere between deludedly optimistic to incredibly toxic. I’m not begrudging anyone their views of course but it just seems there has to be some kind of middle ground. We’re all supporters of the same club and while there is no right or wrong way to do that there at least has to be a way of engaging with a view that differs from your own and an ability to process that and respond to it in a grown up way. Hopefully that comes back at some stage.

10 Oct 2018 21:04:25
Hey. Instead of rumour and banter can't we rename them optimistic and pessimistic?
That way we can dip in and out depending on our mood.
The other posts page can be a cooling off page for anyone who needs a breather, or is getting too optimistic/ pessimistic.

09 Oct 2018 09:36:14
this obsession some of our fans have with liverpool does my head in, i like a bit of banter every now and then with the reds in work but some people take it to extremes, focus on everton lads and let the reds see to themselves, trust me you will be happier people.
NSNO sould be for fans too, let's show wer great fans and not classless persons who are always banging on about other teams and what there doing. We are everton!

we finally playing good football and we still have people who would rather talk about liverpool and city. why not talk about how frightening our front 4 are or how much keane has improved?

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10 Oct 2018 09:37:54
Could not agree more with your opening line. For some reason half of our fans seem more concerned with being anti-Liverpool than pro-Everton. Every time Everton is criticised they respond by attacking Liverpool (case in point the "stepping stone" debate below) , rather than accept / challenge the criticism of Everton.

Personally it doesn't bother me one bit what Liverpool do. If they play the best football and are the best team in the league this season and win it - well done them, but it doesn't affect Everton at all. The only thing that would bother me about that is my red mates not shutting up about it!

09 Oct 2018 07:38:14
prople need to calm down, yes wer a stepping stone club that's a fact, but if these players want these big moves to top clubs they have to perform to a very high standard for us.
I can live with that as long as when they are sold the money is reinvested into replacements.
People need to slow down kicking off with the eds for simply stating facts.

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09 Oct 2018 09:34:44
We all know that most players want to play for the best clubs and win trophies. Not a problem with players saying what richarlison has. It shows ambition and drive (hazard just said similar and he not getting pilloried)
I am no way deluded to think we are a big club (in history yes but not currently) so if a player thinks they should more to a bigger club then fine as this shows they are playing well for us and must mean we are getting better. We must also be recompensed appropriately which can then be used to find replacements. The circle then continues.
For over 120 years players have come and gone. Some have been good (kanchelskis, lineker, heath) , some have been absolutely shocking (madar, hottinger, kroldrup) and some have become forever woven into the fabric of our great club (Reid, sharp, Cahill, ferguson) .
The one thing that remains is the club. No player is bigger than the club and we will have ups and downs but we must support the club, regardless of who wears the shirt. Unfortunately at present we have certain 'fans' on here who just don't seem happy regardless if we win, lose or draw. Wonder if they would even be happy if we won every game and every trophy?
Plus we have to respect the eds knowledge and opinion (may not always agree with them) as they do a great job on this site. No point going on and on over a topic as it then becomes personal.

09 Oct 2018 11:28:34
What I am asking for and hopefully we can do as a club is have a decent run of say 3 years with say the current squad ( the the odd addition ) and maybe push for top 4 / silverware.

The past couple of managers have bought large numbers of players at the start of the year and we have struggled for a settled line up - yes players are going to come and go as this is the nature of the beast but we are currently in the second league of the actual league ( top 6 / mid table / the rest ) and until we have a decent run with the same players we are going nowhere.

Most players want to play for the madrids / barcelonas etc but hopefully the likes of Richarlson / bernard etc stay for as long as possible.

09 Oct 2018 12:23:31
I agree a period of stability would be good but I think you should be looking at 2,3 or even 4 additions each season goodison. It seems to be what every side try to do, from the top teams to sides looking to avoid relegation. I think the managers look at strengthening the side and creating fresh challenges within the squad. That's not to say it always works

The last couple of seasons we have brought in too many especially the season before last when they unbalanced the squad and some turned out to be not totally suited to the Premiership. This close season 6 (plus the young goalkeeper) and, fingers crossed, they are looking to be quality signings that are improving the side but it is a sign of our weaknesses that we had to bring in so many. Great respect though for Brands and the rest of the management for getting them and Silva seems to be getting the best out of them
If Gomez works out I don't think he will want to leave, he sounds like he is looking for a home and I hope he finds it with us. Zouma is a different problem as if he continues to play like he is doing there is a danger that Chelsea will want him back, even if it is just to sell on at a profit. Richarlison, Digne and Bernard, I don't see them moving after just a year. I know it's not worth much these days but we have them on long contracts so, even if they do play out of their skins and want to leave we would get a sizeable premium on any sale.

09 Oct 2018 12:31:56
I should have also included Mina with Richarlison, Digne and Bernard. I think his buyback clause doesn't kick in for a couple of seasons so I don't see him leaving as long as he finds a place in the side and plays well.

09 Oct 2018 15:01:54
Goodison i like what your saying mate but unfortunately we are not there yet and honestly may never get to a point were we have star players for more than 2 seasons. That does not mean we can not be successful, look at the likes of porto and to a lesser extent dortmund, they sell there star players quite regularly but continue to be successful, i think that is why brands was bought to the club so when our stars do leave he already has a replacement "next star" lined up.

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08 Oct 2018 19:45:35
yes 3 points at the weekend but still not convinced. looking forward my biggest concern is that if this teams starts to play decent football this year, next year we will have to start from scratch again - Zouma will go back, Bernard and Richarlson if showing the form they have been will have bigger clubs sniffing about, Mina once fit if again shows decent form has the buy back clause, Gomez will go back.

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08 Oct 2018 20:50:06
Optimistic then Goodison?

08 Oct 2018 22:01:00
Gomez won't go back, might not stay with us but Barcelona dnt want him, they also don't want mina, I also think richarlison and bernard will give us next season aswell, but if they go ots because they have been amazing all season which will do me fine.

08 Oct 2018 22:58:44
Just trying to look forward as we have been told that we are in a "project" with Moshri / Brands and Silva.

We are not going to win the league, not the haribo cup and a slim chance of the FA cup so have to try and see what can happen in the years ahead. seems to be we are a stepping stone for players and some of the current squad may well be on their way if this season is a mid table finish.

08 Oct 2018 23:56:44
I think you are being way too pessimistic goodison. Other clubs may come sniffing around, it doesn't mean we have to sell.

09 Oct 2018 01:45:22
I'm not sure what you are saying we should do then goodison.
Are you saying we should sign poorer quality players in the hope they will stay longer or are you afraid by buying the likes of Richarlison and Bernard, getting to be a side capable of winning things, and then losing them to the better 'sides'.
I know which decision I would make
Man City were in a similar situation when they were bought out. A lot of players came in and then moved on to 'better' clubs and were replaced, mostly with stronger replacements. Quite a few players stayed and have become legends there. You have to speculate to accumulate


{Ed001's Note - name one player that joined Man City and publicly stated they were doing so to move on to a 'bigger' or 'better' club? You are not in a similar situation to them at all. Ludicrous comment.}

09 Oct 2018 07:03:57
Are you and ED002 on a wind up mission today?
If anybody is being ludicrous its you 2
Are you saying that players have never used other clubs as stepping stones to get to Barcelona, or Real Madrid or a Man U? If you are you both need your heads tested.

So what if Richarlison is ambitious enough to feel that he can one day play for them. He's being honest which is more than a lot of others. i
Isn't it sxactly the same as Hazard saying he wants Real Madrid as they are the best team in the world, even after him winning the title with Chelsea or Mahrez wanting to leave Leicester for Man Utd, no sorry, he changed his mind to Man City

Its up to us to get to a standard where he doesn't want to move. For some players we won't. For others we will. It's called life or am I a ludicrous cretin?

{Ed001's Note - hang on no one has said that stop being idiotic. Try reading what is being said and take off those blue glasses first so you can actually understand what has been said. Why don't you try and understand what is said, rather than whining on like a 5 year old about something completely unrelated because you don't like what is being said.

Not one comment by Ed002 was anything other than saying what Richarlison said, yet you are all attacking him and then trying to point to completely unrelated cases to try and make yourselves all feel better about the fact a player has openly said you are not a big club and he is joining with the expectation of going to a big one in the future.

The person you should be annoyed with is Richarlison, because he has openly disrespected a club he should be delighted to have the chance to play for. Instead you are all desperately attacking Ed002 for some reason.}

09 Oct 2018 07:22:56
It's you Ed001 and Ed002 calling people morons or saying we are whining like 5 year olds.

All everyone is saying to both of you is that footballers have used other clubs as stepping stones ever since football was invented.

It's you 2 that have your knickers in a twist because Richarlison, you say, has come out and said Everton is a stepping stone. I think you are misquoting him a bit because he also talks in the same interview that he want to stay and win trophies at Everton. Whatever - I happen to respect his honesty

Why you both have to reduce. it to insults is quite honestly beyond me unless its another wind up but please - you can wind up all you like but leave the insults out of it eh?

{Ed001's Note - again reading what you want to read. I give up. I never quoted anything, but you carry on because I am done bothering. You are blinkered as you show in all your posts. You live in a fantasy world and constantly attack anything that doesn't agree with you. No point talking to people like you, you are fine to insult those with a different viewpoint but instantly offended by others. You don't want other opinions, just to hear things that reinforce your optimistic fantasy view of Moshiri pumping in billions to win you the league in a couple of years. Anyone that disagrees you will attack and attack until they are driven off the site. Well done, you are the epitome of the Trump world we live in.}

09 Oct 2018 07:49:30
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{Ed001's Note - I told you, this is done. Not interested in what you have to say, you clearly are just wasting everyone's time.}

09 Oct 2018 23:49:52
I'm not quoting anyone here but my take is that I love my club dearly but I'm not deluded ( I'm no way calling anyone on this site deluded btw ) . We are not a champions league club, couple of years away from that imo, but players come and go. I personally, given the chance to put the royal blue shirt on would mean i never left, but Ricki, Bernard, Mina and so on aren't blue. Some nay fall in love with the club and give it a year or two more than planned but in all honesty let's just enjoy them while they here and cheer em on. If huge clubs come in for them then they have been of great benefit to the club on the pitch. Just my take on these arguments that are failing this site at the moment ( again I'm not bashing fans or Eds about argument bit )

08 Oct 2018 19:14:21
Uncoroborated at the moment but reports are circling that Paul Merson may have made a complimentary comment about an Everton player.
Like I said, it's not been confirmed as yet. Will keep you posted on this .

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08 Oct 2018 21:05:38
love it Smit. next you will be saying Thompson has as well.

08 Oct 2018 21:38:31
Steady on Blueray, we both know that won't happen. Maybe he'll have to when we beat them at Anfield.

09 Oct 2018 01:46:52
But nothing from ktf, dark clouds etc?

09 Oct 2018 08:02:34
bw2412 v2.0 let it go mate your starting to be worse than them.

09 Oct 2018 09:32:56
OK johny.

09 Oct 2018 09:56:00
wasnt being funny mate but moaning about and constantly jabbing at people who moan and have jabs at people kind of make u look silly, i 99% of the time agree with what u say mate, just think we all need to let this rest now.

09 Oct 2018 10:25:13
Feel free to pull me back anytime you think I have overstepped the mark johny. I 100% respect your love of Everton and hope you see the same in me.
By the way I have already said our front 4 is shaping up to be as good as any in the league so we both agree on that


08 Oct 2018 10:10:24
It's great to get an away win! We still need to get players back from injury, gomes is the one I want to see play him siggy and gueye could run a midfield easy, with walcott, bernard and ricki buzzing around into spaces. would could finally get a balanced team. I like kenny but he's no coleman. with a full team I genuinely think we can beat anyone.

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08 Oct 2018 13:26:00
Good post Jacamo be interesting to see how Gomes does I was so looking forward to seeing Bernard and I think he looks like an amazing signing, like you say with him Richarlson and Walcott running at defences we could beat most teams and start to move up the table.


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