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21 May 2018 06:43:18
Emery linked with arsenal job why aren't we going after him. He was linked before he went to psg. pleasemr morishe he is a winner simpler!

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21 May 2018 11:40:35
Who knows who we are pursuing and who we’re not. There’s so much gossip, and misinformation, that I wonder why the club isn’t (maybe it can’t! ) controlling the media narrative a lot better than it is.

21 May 2018 12:52:39
Who ever the club choose is a risk. The sensible choice tho is still silva. The guy has known about our interest since last year. and has had the past few months to look at our squads strengths/ weakness all be it from the outside but he must have a very good idea/ plan in place to take us forward should he get the gig. Any foreign manager in my opinion would take some time to settle in and decide who he wants to keep or replace.

21 May 2018 14:45:50
I kind of agree with Anom about Silva. He has had plenty of time to watch and plan so even though I don't - atm - see him as our long term boss I think he would settle in quicker than another guy. I guess we just have to wait and see.

Review Of The Day 21st May 2018

21 May 2018 06:08:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 21st May 2018

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20 May 2018 23:58:04
What three main improvements to our game / club would you like from whoever we hire as manager?

Mine our:
1. ‘Forward’ passing. I find the negative style of playing back to the CB when pushing forward highly frustrating. We’ve players who can attack and cause problems but they never seem to be utilised and are crowded out as we give far to much opportunity for teams to get men behind the ball and double up on us.

2. Defensive positioning of CB. If we could get that sorted it could prevent half the slip-ups that resulted in goals last season. We’ve a cracking keeper but he is only as good as the protection in front of him.

3. Dealing with players ‘in-house’. Really haven’t enjoyed the public naming and shaming of managers of late.

What would you like?

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20 May 2018 20:27:57
If the rumours on Marco Silva being hired are true, I state here and now it will be yet another leap in the dark mistake. I predict that come Xmas time his head will be called for. Far to like Martinez. Because of some of the vitriol I have to state yet again, this is an opinion and not a personal attack.

{Ed025's Note - there will always be pluses and minus,s when hiring a new manager DFS it goes with the territory, not everyone will be happy whoever we appoint but we must get behind whoever it may be and with the influence of brands back them all the way, we cant go on replacing managers every season and need some stability within the club if we are to move forward imo mate..

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20 May 2018 21:57:23
For what it’s worth, I was not in the Koeman camp even before he came, was again not in Sams camp, however I think Silva will be a good choice, should he come.

Only time will tell but I am in the Silva camp and hope we manage to get the guy.

20 May 2018 21:57:28
Well if he finishes 5th in his 1st season I'll be chuffed DFS.
Just about everyone linked with us will be a risk. We've just got to get on board and enjoy the ride.

20 May 2018 22:18:00
I'd be happy with Silva. Apparently he is very meticulous with his set up and analysis of the opponent he is facing. He is an attacking, passing football based coach but also a good disciplinarian in defense. His record at Watford was very good til his head was turned by our interest which would normally worry me, but it would be Brands job to keep that from happening, which I believe he could do and keep Silva concentrated on the Everton project of building us into the team we all want to be cheering for. A team competing for honours.

20 May 2018 23:03:08
Negativity was fair when we're watchin 'Allerdyces' version of Everton.
But Silva hasn't even been announced yet, give him a chance. I'll be right behind him and I suggest every other blue is otherwise he's fighting a losing battle before he's started.

21 May 2018 01:18:31
There’s a lot of negativity surrounding the possible Silva appointment. I just hope, that should he become manager, we give him a chance. I gave chippy a chance, but he ended up being appalling. I hope we don’t hear boos at half time when we aren’t winning our first game 3-0.

21 May 2018 02:56:39
Enough now DFS. You've made your views on Silva perfectly clear several times now.

How we expect to attract any manager when all we do is slag anybody off associated with the position is beyond me.

Can we all just wait until a decision is made (hopefully by people with more information / knowledge than us) and then get behind them 100 %.

21 May 2018 06:14:06
It's easy to predict accurately that the guy will be or under pressure by Christmas if you're doing it already before he's even been appointed! Silva is not like Martinez; he cares about defensive discipline. He's a very good coach. He's managed 5 clubs and every one of them, including Hull and Watford, were higher up the table when he left than when he took over. So Hull were relegated? So were Newcastle under Benitez. Good managers who take jobs with poor teams are going to have low win percentages and they won't win trophies. The issue with Silva isn't whether he will improve us; it's that he doesn't stay anywhere for very long. Get behind him - IF he's even appointed!

21 May 2018 11:19:24
I'm not for Silva but if he is appointed I'll give him my whole support like I do for every manager that comes. Regardless whether I like him to come or not. Every manager that comes deserves a proper chance. Innocent till proven guilty and all that.

Totally agree with Ed025. We need stability and a manager that will get a run of seasons together. Silva just might be the one to do that. Regardless of his history with not staying long with other clubs.

21 May 2018 12:24:19
expecting a lot their smit, if he even finished seventh but cemented it like we did under koeman for his first year I'd take that.

20 May 2018 20:01:24
Hello Toffee's.

Peace and love from the Arsenal page, wondering what you make of these Usmanov rumours? I personally think he wants to do good at Arsenal, he wants to splash the cash and really improve the side.

Me personally I would be half gutted to see him leave, then half happy to see what he would do to a club, and I'd love to see the smug smile wiped of Kronekes face.

So do you think it's going to happen? Also good luck this summer, hope you don't embarrass yourselves like we are probably going to haha.

{Ed025's Note - i would welcome him with open arms akie, seems like a decent bloke and already has an interest with us in the shape of finch farm, i think him and moshiri would make a great team as i think they were frustrated at the emirates with sam calling all the shots, bring it on i say mate..

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20 May 2018 20:30:53
I second that Ed mate.

20 May 2018 21:40:55
Kronke seems content on getting a good financial return on his investment, rather than haveing the ambition to create a great side. Have a mountain cash but seem content to see other scoop up the realy big stars.

20 May 2018 23:08:24
Decent bloke sounds like a stretch Ed, but at this point I'd sell my soul to the devil to get us back to the top mate.
I say bring it on too, but he's not without his baggage.

21 May 2018 14:50:28
Nothing wrong with having dreams. They sometimes come true.

20 May 2018 19:09:45
While BK (and JW) stay on the board, is there a lack of unity with the other directors (and with the major shareholder) at Everton?
Whatever personal animosity you have towards BK/ JW, do you have a rational reason for them to lose their influence at Everton?
Personally, I think the composition of the board must be addressed so that there's a unity of direction and a clarity of purpose AND that imho requires a clear controlling ownership.

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20 May 2018 19:06:21
Cornball Philosophy 101: Yesterday's history; tomorrow's a mystery; today is a gift - that's why it's called the "present".
Does BK live in EFC's past; is FM planning for EFC's future; was Allardyce only interested in the present (i. e. the cash) ?

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21 May 2018 11:12:55
Good analogy BobbyC1878.

20 May 2018 18:52:16
It's okay to disagree with my thoughts or opinions, That doesn't give you the right to deny any sense they might make, Nor does it give you a right to accuse someone of poorly expressing their beliefs just because you don't like what they are saying. Learn to recognize different opinions when you read it, even if it means overcoming your pride and opening your mind beyond what is comfortable.

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20 May 2018 19:55:03
I will if you take your own advice, Stig. I just don't see the logic in attacking BK like some do. I remember the PJ saga as it played out so, despite your refusal to admit it, BK saved us from the inevitable plummet that we were heading for. He has given us a new man to lead us forwards and will soon step down, why keep beating the 'I hate BK drum'?
If there has been some posters that have had a personal dig at you then that is below the belt but your original post was always going to bring about an adverse reaction. Can't really moan if you was wound up by the very people you was trying to wind up!

20 May 2018 20:57:06
i don't think anyone was personal everyone just stated in there opinion your wrong. that's just our opinion but as i stated our opinions don't count if they don't follow certain agendas.

20 May 2018 21:56:46
I can understand the feelings from stig. It can feel personal when people swarm in to dismantle your opinions and while nobody was personal they are strong opinions. Plus I personally think the anti Kenwright thing has been an unnecessary toxic vent and an u just one.

I was personally disagreeing to the views in general and not just you. This is how things come across sometimes mate on certain issues and we all do it especially on something that is left or right like this. Try not to tale it personally mate its the anti-BK movement people are opposing not just your individual beliefs. But like I said I can feel sensitive when various people chop down something I am saying but it will happen.

20 May 2018 23:29:49
I’d like to apologise to you Stig if my comment came across as belittling/ degrading yours. I’ve read it again and believe it could have been written with more thought.

The point I intended to make was: where does slating Bill get any of us? It feels, to me, like you have a personal grudge against him. If he has wronged you in some way then I hope you will be able to eventually move on and focus on some of the interesting stuff you have discussed in the past.

To many posters (and readers who don’t post) , Bill is seen as a integral part to our existence in the Premier League. I agree it is time for him to move on but the anti-Bill sentiment doesn’t seem necessary; especially when it feels like you’re attacking the guy.

Stating Everton was saved from Bill is a little far fetched in my eyes. If we had ended up like Leeds, Blackburn, Portsmouth or Sunderland then I could emphasise with your point but sadly, I can’t at present.

Maybe this is a classic case of needing to agree to disagree on the matter.

21 May 2018 02:51:42
The simple fact is Stig is that Kenwright will be remembered favourably in Everton history, you and KEIOC will not even be remembered.


It was you that wanted to rake up old coals. Seems like they were too hot for you.

21 May 2018 11:23:44
Hey stig. I've known you on here for a long time now and always enjoyed your posts. Especially last season on the match day banter during the games. You are a great laugh.

I don't agree with your views on BK but I still respect them. They are your views and yours to own. I believe you should be free to air them and also believe you don't deserve any stick for them. Even though I don't agree with them.

Its obvious to me you are a genuine Everton supporter and want what is best for the club. Just thought I'd show you some support stig on here stig. Sometimes the vigilantly can get out of hand on here.

20 May 2018 10:43:27
Surely whoever comes in, they have treasure the importence of our younger players. In particular lookman who has not been handled well at all. Surely Lookmam has to play next season, surely. The difficult decision is what players to loan.

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20 May 2018 11:41:59
Lookman is a must keep. Be gutted if we let him go in any capacity.

20 May 2018 17:17:10
Let's get a little bit realistic.
Lookman is a keeper and should be 100% back in the squad for pre season and should play wide left. A couple of seasons out there and he can slowly learn his trade. He is miles ahead of anything we've got.

Sorry but some people are under the impression that because Koeman and Allardyce didn't select, they are somehow unproven? I'd bail out Sandro asap. I'd bail out Vlasic asap. Sorry but both are not good enough.

Davies is on course. Young players always inconsistent for a few years. He has had a tricky 2nd season but I think he's been given the bad side of Goodison this year. He's been booed and jeered. Massively unfair.
He will come good again. He didn't really play as badly as some suggested. Banigemme is also doing very well.

Keane looks to have had support from Jags in the last couple of months and just shows how important a senior pro is to guide the new young players. He was unfairly thrown in and Williams has been a disaster frankly. He should be sacked for gross misconduct. It should have been Williams and Jags sharing the mentor duties but they were both struggling with their own game and fitness to offer that vital support.

I hate Sam and I thought Unsworth was a terrible appointment. Made by the romantic notion of him being one of us. Same with Rooney. He needs to go. I'd welcome him staying on as a coach- ambassador to the youth set up but let's be honest, he's not going to do that whilst he still hopes to play. Too much sentiment at the minute. It's blurred our lines and coloured our judgment.

I hope FM swings his axe a few more times. It's about time he forced himself on the club. He's been patient with the old guard but it's his ball and he should be a lot more the alpha boss. Get Bill gone. I love the man but he looks gravely ill and frankly is fussing about when he should just take his cheque and jog on. Await a stand in the new stadium to be named the Kenwright end.

It's time we stopped being the big joke of EPL. Too many sentimental decisions and we need to hit a ruthless efficiency to really move forward.

21 May 2018 12:30:01
id keep vlasic and give him a go in his AM role he plays, people forgetting the only positives from koemans time here this season looked like vlasic who started very well and understandably his confidence took a hit after being bombed out the squad as soon as koeman got bailed, keep him until jan, if he's not kicked on loan him.

20 May 2018 09:23:38
Usmanov story not going away. If true then massive changes are afoot and this brilliant Everton Club looks set to return to the apex of English football, bringing the glory days this Club deserves.

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20 May 2018 11:29:11
Usmanov coming in would be a step in the right direction but it doesn’t guarantee we’ll “return to the apex of English football”. There are still massive changes that need to happen at this club from the top down, and it will take a while for this to be done effectively.

20 May 2018 14:09:19
I agree, Bitterblue, him coming in, if reports are actually true, wouldn't mean instant success. It would, however, mean we can be competitive with the top tier of premier clubs which, in turn, should see us really attack the teams that currently dominate the top four places. What's better than having one billionaire running the club? Two billionaires!
Joking aside, we shouldn't get too fixated on th AU rumours until there is some substance to them.

20 May 2018 14:53:13
It would put us in the financial elite that’s for sure being able to compete with anyone.

20 May 2018 17:31:07
In the first instance it would remove any doubts around the BMD Stadium deal. We'd be more competitive commercially all it would need would be for the footballing side to catch up.

 


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