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05 Mar 2024 11:14:00
Doesn't matter what people's opinions are regarding 777, the facts are the deal was agreed in September with Moshiri and 6 months later we are still waiting for the Premier league to give approval. Man U agree a deal with Ratcliffe on 24th December and it was approved less than 2 months later. I know the process would take longer as to their apparent reputation but 3 times as long and counting.

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05 Mar 2024 13:49:14
Maybe the league should have told them no earlier but, for me, it just shows that 777 group is not the right fit for any Premier league team, not just us. If they had the finances in place they would have had an answer by now. They have missed deadlines, allegedly, for important paperwork to be submitted. If that is how they are acting before a takeover, how are they going to act if they get the nod? The Premier league might be doing us a favour by dragging it out. Anyone that doesn't see the red flags this group display needs their head reading! I really hope the rumours of other potential owners are true, I don't want 777 any where near this club.

05 Mar 2024 14:39:19
I agree mostly but to compare to the man Utd real is wrong. That's a part buyout of 25% not the same checks etc. The deal to compare it to is Newcastle.

05 Mar 2024 15:37:34
But 3 times linger and more delays to come, doesn't matter if its 777, 666 or 999 a decision should not take 6 months +.

{Ed002's Note - It hasn't taken 6 months to make the decision. It hasn't sat with the Premier League for six months. Due process.}

05 Mar 2024 16:59:39
They shouldn't be allowed near this club they are a shambles they are getting loans to give us loans they are fraudsters, turmoil at there other clubs, credit rating downgrades at there companies. I know we need a takeover but if the premier league give clearance for this an it goes tits up witch it will the buck has to stop with them, right now it's there responsibility.

{Ed025's Note - Certainly not my choice Shakey, but im not sure what other alternatives we have mate..

05 Mar 2024 17:36:15
Tim Cahill if only Ed.

05 Mar 2024 18:21:05
Would you really want the Qataris GB.

Not for me. Felt strongly against world cup being there not going to change my view just because involves EFC. We are better than that as a club I'd hope.

05 Mar 2024 18:55:38
OK then the "process" should not take 6 months from the time of both parties agreeing the transaction.

05 Mar 2024 20:28:56
It probably wasn’t true in the first place mate, I like everyone on here want all this uncertainty to be over and get back to proper footy.

05 Mar 2024 20:51:18
Yeah me too GB, but not at any cost of losing our principles and values.

05 Mar 2024 21:26:09
Hopefully we survive this season and a new buyer will then come forward.

05 Mar 2024 22:05:56
Think they went when the Russians took over Mocker.

05 Mar 2024 00:07:24
I know Xg stats aren’t everyones interest, so stop reading here if so. But for those interested:

We’re now at an Xg underperformance of 18.1, absolute insanity. The second biggest underperformers are Chelsea, their underperformance… 8.1. How on earth are we this bad at taking chances.

The leagues most clinical side (greatest Xg overperformers) are Arsenal with an Xg over performance of 8.4. This means there is about the same difference in Xg over-under performance between the 19th worst finishers (Chelsea) and the best finishers (Arsenal) , as there is between us in 20th and Chelsea in 19th. Absolutely unreal.

If it weren’t for our solid defending (4th best in terms of Goals Against and Xg against) , we would be absolutely in the mud.

Some may disagree with me here, but for me Sean Dyche is responsible for the system and approach that affords the players the best chance to win each game. It’s the players responsibility to put that ball in the net. We obviously aren’t lacking the chances created under Dyche’s system nor the strong defensive numbers, but my god are we being let down in front of goal by our forwards.

I know points on the board and goals in the net are what truly matters, but these underlying numbers do show that Dyche system is not leaving our forwards to “feed off scraps” as many seem to suggest. We are just truly the worst finishers in the league.

All I can hope is that for the next month or so Dyche and his staff rip up their training ground plans and only run bloody finishing drills.

There’s hope blues, and I do think we get out of this under Dyche.

(All Xg stats from Understat, but note that different models for calculating Xg may vary slightly. The overall points and trends I point out do remain true regardless of where you get your Xg stats from though)

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05 Mar 2024 00:25:39
Sorry, typing this out late at night and made a slight blunder. The difference between us and Chelsea is about 10 Xg underperformance, and there is about a 16 Xg difference in under-over performance between Chelsea and Arsenal.

It’s more like the difference between us as the worst finishers 20th for underperformance of Xg and the next worst in 19th for underperformance. Is the same as the difference between under-over performance between 19th and about 5th.

In any case, the intention was to highlight just how far behind the pack we are in terms of the quality of our chance taking.

05 Mar 2024 07:03:22
? Run that by me again ?.

05 Mar 2024 07:27:31
TMH old school me mate, I can see with my own eyes where we are good and where crap. Football (soccer) is not a static game (NFL) needing charts notebooks tablets etc! In the end all stats do is tell us what we already know.

05 Mar 2024 07:51:30
In simpler terms, we cannot finish the chances we create, we are neither skilled enough or clinical enough. SD cannot finish the chances himself, and his set up leads to these chances being created, albeit in a style that’s not too pleasing on the eye. You’d like to think that we will click at some point, but I’m not that confident.

05 Mar 2024 14:38:29
On Saturday the crowd was dead, all the spirit knocked out of them, and couldn’t do anything to lift the team.
I’m not saying it’s on us, as those£100k a week players are the ones that kick the ball, but we just look completely done this time.
Exhausted and not even that bothered if we go down.
Maybe for the best.

05 Mar 2024 16:37:57
Relegation is never for the best. As for crowd lifting the players. It’s about time these so called professional players put in a shift to lift the crowd.
After all you don’t go to watch a play and stand up and read the lines your self. Getting really tired of people blaming supporters, were feckin burnt out, and we pay for the privilege.

05 Mar 2024 17:04:55
As soon as the tempo rised and we played 3 or 4 quick passes, the crowd were up. I’m not cheering long balls and misplaced passes.

{Ed025's Note - to be fair JB sean cant win, at 1-1 we really went for it and committed more players forward, that meant defensively we were a bit stretched mate, mind you we should have been 3 up before that..

05 Mar 2024 21:08:02
That’s been the case all season really, Ed. SD has probably done as well as can be expected with the squad we have. Most of us would have taken the points we should have on the board at this stage of the season., and we should have more. I can accept the reality of the situation, but I don’t want our final season at Goodison or our first season in our new stadium to bear witness to the dross we’re watching currently.

{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with that JB mate..

04 Mar 2024
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05 Mar 2024 10:03:26
Guernsey blue, looks amazing, where did you get that from?

04 Mar 2024
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05 Mar 2024 03:29:14
A legend as both a player and a manager. I hope some part of Bramley Moore will have Howards name attached.

05 Mar 2024 07:04:33
Yeh agree, a true legend, oh to have some of his players now ?.

05 Mar 2024 09:59:35
0h to have Howard now.

04 Mar 2024 16:15:15
Their second goal Godfrey makes no attempt to bloke the cross and Micky is slow to get out to block the shot.
Third goal all Garner has to do is beat the first man with the corner. Then when it comes back to him play a simple pass back. Can't manage either.
These are basic things you would expect players at this level to be able to do. Not attempting to block a cross being the one that pi##es me off the most.

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04 Mar 2024 17:38:28
Said that also about Garner, two chances at that corner and he still cocks it up, just can’t keep making silly mistakes like that at this level eh.

04 Mar 2024 22:29:12
Garner is frustrating. Clearly has ability, but is wasteful quite often. The corners were painful to watch. Without his excellent cross we wouldn’t have scored a goal though.

05 Mar 2024 10:01:14
Got one cross right out of how many goes?

05 Mar 2024 13:53:00
He put a couple of decent balls over but only one of his crosses was attacked properly. The lad isn't a winger but still managed to cross more than Mcneil! His corners at the end were disappointing though, especially considering that he came with a reputation as someone decent with set pieces.

05 Mar 2024 16:39:40
Doesn’t need to be a winger to be able to make a decent cross, or even a simple pass.

06 Mar 2024 08:44:35
Obviously, harlex, they should all be able to pass and cross. I was just making the point that he actually made more than our recognised wingers and that he's not the only one. McNeil and Harrison, more so the latter, don't do it enough.

04 Mar 2024 10:45:52
We're poor. I'll be shocked if we're safe by the last game of the season. Even those 4 points didn't give us the lift I'd hoped for,

{Ed025's Note - well we gave 3 of them back on Saturday Tomtom, Wet Spam were there for the taking mate...and we blew it..

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04 Mar 2024 10:55:44
Yeh, we had our chances. Dunno what the answer is but Shaun best find it pretty quickly. Good thing forest and Luton lost!

04 Mar 2024 13:29:50
Got to be safe before last two games of the season mate. Arsenal is the last game and the derby has been rescheduled as the other lot play in the cup on the original date. There was a rumour that it will be played midweek before the arsenal game, don't know how true that is tbh but, if it is, we can't be just hoping for the best in them two games.

Points on the board and goals in games is what we desperately need, let's just hope they start banging them in soon.

Nottingham Forest vs Liverpool: brief review

04 Mar 2024 07:39:08
{Ed's Note - Seano_ has posted a new article entitled, Nottingham Forest vs Liverpool: brief review

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03 Mar 2024 20:37:37
Reckon 18 pts needed from 11 games (leaves us on 37 with 6 points deduction incoming). Where are they coming from?

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03 Mar 2024 22:12:55
I can only see 12 HK. We need some clubs around us to have a worse run than we do and, hope and pray out next punishment is deferred.

04 Mar 2024 01:37:30
Hopefully the punishment will be suspended as two of the three years have already been dealt with.
I think 10 points will then see us safe.

03 Mar 2024 08:14:10
Well my first game in a long time and I just couldn’t believe what I was watching and hearing.
We dominated play, never looked in any trouble, went ahead and then boom, back to old and trying to defend for 40 mins.
Started to look scared, the crowd was disappointing, they looked on passively for 90 min while the West Ham supporters boomed out around the ground.
We are lifeless, everything has been sucked out of us.
On a positive I thought Gomes looked class when he came on.

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03 Mar 2024 14:33:54
Totally agree. I feel we were terrible in the first half, playing out very risky manoeuvres from Pickford. We seem to run out of idea when passing forward. No movement or very little. Second half was better but dyche seems to refuse to change things. Like for like swaps. Agree with Gomes. He seems to be able to find a pass. Gets his head up and spreads the ball. Opening up gaps.

02 Mar 2024 18:03:17
I genuinely believe we have the players to finish comfortably out of the bottom 3 but not the manager. Change please.

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02 Mar 2024 18:14:03
It was the players who couldn't put the ball in the net today and do we just get another Manager in to try and sort players bought by 8 previous managers.

{Ed025's Note - second half i thought our attacking play was better Bobslad, but it came at a price because we were so open in midfield, i suppose you cant win when you are a manager of this club mate..

02 Mar 2024 18:21:52
Problem is Reg, who is available? Might be better waiting until end of the season when managers become available.

02 Mar 2024 18:25:01
You’re wrong. How many times were we in good positions only for an inept player to mess it up, Harrison mostly.

{Ed025's Note - he was awful Bobby..

02 Mar 2024 18:35:52
Yeah the way Dyche had 22 shots today and only scored 1 is shocking! He needs to go!

{Ed025's Note - love it NP..

02 Mar 2024 18:56:35
Unless I’m mistaken the manager picks the team, and the manager makes the changes. Harrison was and has been poor last few, yet he still picks him. While the likes of Dobbin sit there wondering what the feck?

02 Mar 2024 18:59:31
Absolutely NP. The only thing I would add is keep Beto up front. How about Godfrey at RB and Patterson as RWB.

02 Mar 2024 19:18:34
What just fill the team with defenders?

02 Mar 2024 19:59:43
Sorry chaps I thought we lost at home again today. We are talking about a man who keeps playing Harrison who is garbage, the same man who persevered with Calvert Lewin till it became embarrassing, the same man who won't give Dobbin a go, the same man who is clueless how to change a game or when to make a substitution, the same man who has the team playing like Wimbkedin of old. No Problem we may have had 22 attempts today but there has hardly, if any been a game when we have had more possession than the opposition. The man is a dinosaur who was taking Burnley down and was out of work for ages because he's crap.

02 Mar 2024 20:02:23
I’m really struggling to see us staying up this season, a team stays up by scoring goals. Yes Luton and Forest have lost their last 2 games but there are goals in those teams. We can’t lose and draw our way to safety.

02 Mar 2024 20:08:33
The same reason can be applied both ways. Yes the same players blah blah and management change but a certain DCL was in the England squad and banging all kinds of goals in when he was coached a different way. He came on and within a minute he's on the touch line of both wings back to goal 40 yards from the goal. He ain't scoring Ef all having to play like that. And that's one blokes fault.

02 Mar 2024 20:22:57
I actually think SD is still the man to keep us up. Yes he makes mistakes but he’s honest hardworking and gets the best out of a squad which has been relegation fodder for years! Our squad is threadbare and he did the business last year and will this. We haven’t got a pot to pish in never mind pay compensation to a sacked manager and pay to recruit another. Some fans never learn - grass isn’t always greener. We were very unlucky not to get 3 points today and have been unlucky on this winless run. We now need to all get together, support the team and manager till the last second of injury time in the last game of season because that’s what is needed to get us survive and I believe as the blue family we will!

02 Mar 2024 21:01:23
How can you be unlucky losing 3-1? We lost because of poor tactics, bad team selection and, abismal substitutions.

02 Mar 2024 21:26:51
I think that was because he was told to stay in and around the box that year Brown shoes, because we had a certain James Rodriguez… who although was a lazy git couldn’t half unlock a defence. We just don’t have that technically gifted player that can make a defence splitting pass.

02 Mar 2024 21:46:18
NickB57
Because that’s football at highest level!

02 Mar 2024 21:49:30
No prob
WTF! SD isn’t the striker?
No prob = the prob
Get behind the manager and team.

02 Mar 2024 22:51:33
Well if we got behind the manager and team, we would just about be on the halfway line lol.

02 Mar 2024 23:12:26
Patterson isn't a FB Woburn, he can cross a ball and he will run at defenders. That was my thinking.

02 Mar 2024 23:13:41
We need to ask him, what is this story he keeps on about.

03 Mar 2024 05:32:19
DCL had his best season when coached one on one with Big Dunc.
Whatever you think about Dyche and his methods, that game should've been finished after 70 minutes. Enough clear cut chances to have demolished WHU.

03 Mar 2024 07:45:19
As others have said WT, DCL had his best season because he never left the box Ancellotti brought in James. All big Dunc had to do was slap some discipline into DCL. You are spot on about the game, Dyches methods were irrelevant, the chances were there. My son messaged two words; 'losers mentality'.

03 Mar 2024 14:18:04
What i don't understand is when we go a goal up we put 10 men behind the ball and let the opposition come at us and concede it happened at brighton and happened again yesterday to me he hasn't got a plan B never alone a plan A substitutions are always late when the games dead and buried now my personal view the buck stops with the manager now am not suggesting he should be sacked and i can't see it cause are board has vanished into thin air but if we was to go down the manager replacement scenario for me i would consider potter or julien lopetagi but just my view.

03 Mar 2024 20:36:56
To be fair Capone maybe Patterson could be coached into an attacking wide man. But not by this bloke mate.

04 Mar 2024 13:34:48
To be fair, Andy, it wasn't so much putting 10 men behind the ball after scoring Saturday. We had 22 shots in total, 11 on target. If we put one or two of them away, then the game is over.

Beto was awful playing up top on his own. Granted, it was a great header for his goal, but his all round play is lacking at this level. He should never have taken the penalty, he didn't look confident as he stood there awaiting the var decision.

For a big fella, he doesn't do much in the air when Pickford is kicking up field. At least 3 times he was too busy looking at the man rather than the ball. I sincerely hope he improves but I wouldn't put money on it. Might be useful in the championship if we go down but he's definitely not premiership class.

01 Mar 2024 07:34:22
I was becoming obsessed by watching that steel cladding going up around the new ground. Watching the guys installing it and counting how many that had put in place each day. I even worked out how long it would take based on how many they had done each day.
Then suddenly it's stopped.
I really need to get a life this bloody football club is turning me into a zombie.
???.

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01 Mar 2024 22:32:42
I think it's stopped cause of the scaffolding in cranes way. May be wrong though Woburn mate.

02 Mar 2024 08:16:10
Your probably right Dentie, the club are just teasing me as usual.

 


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