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15 Feb 2018 15:58:50
With the big Sam situation. Think we all just need to agree to disagree and move on. No football for two weeks so need to find something else to think about.

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15 Feb 2018 17:25:03
I agree. I am on the fence. but talk about getting rid etc is just plain wrong when he has only been here a handful of games. No matter how bad it/ he seems. he was brought in to do a job and should be left until at least the end of this season.

15 Feb 2018 18:16:57
Good few of us have been saying that degsy since he arrived, can still see him being here next season, we will be getting close to Grumpies record of thumbs down but hey do we care, cheers mate.

15 Feb 2018 20:12:11
Fully agree Geoff.

Talking of thumbs down GB I said on one of the threads in the rumours

"Thanks mate didn't see you in live chat, hope everything is ok your end" and it got 4 thumbs down, how pathetic is that?

15 Feb 2018 20:25:05
I know mate all good here and you.

15 Feb 2018 21:15:21
I'm good thanks mate. Went back to the podiatrist yesterday got to keep the foot strapped up for another 6 weeks minimum. saves it being in a sling though -)

15 Feb 2018 22:36:15

You guys can't help yourselves. 'Need to agree and move on'. 'I agree. I am on the fence. but talk about getting rid etc is just plain wrong. '

I also agree Geoff and I'll stick to your plan. It's a free weekend what have you got planned mate? I'm off to Roccoco for a coffee on Saturday morning with the wife. Then she's spending my money. If you haven't been to this little gem on Lord street you've got to try it. They do Nutella chocolate muffins. Delish!

15 Feb 2018 23:09:15
Is this still the Everton banter page?

15 Feb 2018 23:20:36
Working myself Saturday bud. Work not far from there tho. May try it out.
While she spending your money, should come to the old post office behind Primark. I'll be the one cooking the food but nice quiet little boozer to just chill few hours away on a Saturday afternoon.

15 Feb 2018 23:34:48
Never been happy on the appointment if I'm honest. Just think we are lucky there's at least 10 team who are performing worse than us. I think it's a win/ win for the fans and Allardyce. He gets his contract paid up PLUS his bonus for keeping us up (I think we would've stayed up with any manager as there are worse teams than us in the league) PLUS we paid off palace so he can get another job elsewhere. He's too defensive for me. And even if he does get us 7th (and possibly european football again) , a new (probably foreign/ hopefully not Silva (the new bobby) our (as if you'd believe what you read/ hear) new manager coukd out his own spin on the squad throughout the summer.

15 Feb 2018 23:38:58
What guys are you talking about BJU?

16 Feb 2018 08:05:51
I come in there now and again Geoff. It's a cracking booze. I'm sure I can convince the wife or just give her my card

Anyone that mentions Sam on this thread Grumpy. .

16 Feb 2018 08:59:59
Only been two on this thread BJU but I know what you mean. But it is a banter site and people are allowed to express an opinion even if it is not the same as the majorities.

Personally I think the SA posts should of run their course by now especially with what was said on the rumours page, It would be better all round if no one ever mentioned him in a positive or negative way but some posters just can't help themselves. It's not so much the opinions, it's more about those intent on derailing threads with personal attacks or name calling that is alarming and this element has to stop.

16 Feb 2018 11:50:41
Agree mate soooooo much toxic rubbish on here these days.

16 Feb 2018 12:03:23
You make me laugh BJU. You are no different to me. We bleed blue blood. Even the scabs that form are blue. And you are just like me re trying not to talk about something Blue. Favourite song of all time: I'm Blue da da dee da da da! Laugh mate. or we will cry together!

16 Feb 2018 12:37:28
Love it Degsy. How about we laugh together mate. and you never know we might end up singing and dancing together next year!

I think I'm exhausted from this season. And whoever is there next year, Sam or anyone, it's a new beginning we'll all get excited again and maybe just maybe we'll have something to celebrate.

16 Feb 2018 12:43:20
With this being a banter site for all things EFC, I'd rather talk about that than what you lot are up to this weekend!

16 Feb 2018 14:14:48
What have you got planned Blue? I think we all just needed 5 mins break from the relentless tooing and frowing.

It'll be back to normal soon.

16 Feb 2018 17:54:13
And even if they self perpetuate passive aggressiveness under the banner of "not being bothered", haha.

15 Feb 2018 15:47:33
{Ed's Note - MK Scouser has posted a new article entitled, Article about Liverpool FC's Sadio Mane

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15 Feb 2018 14:50:47
Can one of the Eds tell me why we couldn't have played Watford this weekend? Neither of us has an FA cup game so it just seems daft. Everyone has been moaning recently about fixture congestion so I was curious.

{Ed002's Note - You cannot move games forward.}

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15 Feb 2018 15:08:29
Cheers Ed.

15 Feb 2018 11:36:34
who would be everyones centre back pairing for the next game? we have many options right now. personally if fit mine would be keane and mori, think it gives us balance.

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15 Feb 2018 12:01:11
I agree with that Johnny. Mori isn't liked so much as he can take a risk or two but for me he's a great CB. His heading is first class and he can bring the ball out of defence. Just needs to be wary sometimes.

Keane is a good defender but his confidence is little low at the moment. However I like him and think he'll come good.

15 Feb 2018 12:21:58
just think there both good in the air both strong both comfy on the ball and both at an age where they could form a nice partnership for next 5-10 years.

15 Feb 2018 12:46:13
Is this the same Mori everyone was calling crap, before his injury. Headless chicken springs to mind.
Whatever pairing we decide on now, we have to stick with. Use the rest of this season to bed the players in.

15 Feb 2018 14:09:05
i no a lot of people didn't like mori but av always liked his style i think he is a top cb.

15 Feb 2018 15:22:04
Mori will need lots of game time to recover from that injury. I like him. Bit prone to mistake but pretty good overall.

15 Feb 2018 16:07:33
I am also a fan of funes, think he's good on the ball and no nonsense when needs to be. odd positioning calamity but apart from that not many issues I can think of where he's had an absolute howler.

15 Feb 2018 18:03:29
Some do Woburn but personally I like him. He's quick and full of energy.

I agree as Geoff. I don't think he will be fully up to speed until next season but he's like a new signing. Funny we've said that a few times over the past couple months.

16 Feb 2018 13:09:11
Rock and Gravel from the Wacky races would do me. Piled high enough, I am not so sure it's parking the bus. more building a defensive wall!

14 Feb 2018 23:11:55
ED have you chosen which way you want to sit at the new stadium yet?

River view or city view?

Let's start dreaming people. 4 years and counting! .

{Ed025's Note - unfortunately john i gave up my season ticket a few years back due to health reasons, but i will certainly be visiting when its built..god willing mate..

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15 Feb 2018 10:07:08
thumbs down, seriously.

15 Feb 2018 11:05:16
Sorry to say I was disappointed we did not get Albert dock, Bill puled, Kirby, i was glad, Walton Park? I can still remember Joe Anderson, "I WILL HAVE NEW GROUND BUILT AT WATERFRONT IN 3 YEARS" i said at the time it was impossible and was slattered here, As you all know I don't trust Ken&Co, so will not be happy till I go down and see work in progress, remember this is only my opinion, so be gentle, LOL.

15 Feb 2018 09:54:21
Same here ED, I will try to go to at least one match though mate before the big guy upstairs gives me a red card.

{Ed025's Note - im already on a yellow mate.. :)

15 Feb 2018 11:49:04
Ah sorry to hear that ED.

Billy I'm just having a bit of fun mate. It's a bit serious on here lately.

Me I'm going for a waterfront view as high as I can get. Take a picnic, plastic bottle of wine and a straw hat. Can't wait. .

15 Feb 2018 12:48:46
City view, so I can look down on those other buggers for once.

15 Feb 2018 13:52:27
BJU I was saying why did anyone give you a thumbs down mate I wasn't getting at you I agree with you.

15 Feb 2018 15:23:22
If we still playing the same way then river view with picnic sounds better than watching the pitch mate. Haha.

15 Feb 2018 18:05:23
Ahaha sorry Billy. I like that idea woburn.

15 Feb 2018 18:35:16
Any view as long as the anfield stand isnt visible.

15 Feb 2018 22:41:35
well Geoff, Billy and Keen, I'll save a glass (small) of wine for you each. You'll have to bring your own straw hat though.

Review Of The Day 15th February 2018

15 Feb 2018 05:43:15
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th February 2018

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14 Feb 2018 22:46:00
Can someone please clarify a recent comment I have heard? Is it true (I hope not) that Sam has come out and said that Tosun will not feature for us until we are mathematically safe as he is 'struggling to cope with the British weather'? . Surely they have cold weather in Germany growing up and, for 80k a week, you'd play in Speedos.

{Ed0333's Note - for 80k a week Id play naked.

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14 Feb 2018 23:05:21
You best be a 6 foot blond ed0333.

{Ed0333's Note - are you saying youd pay to watch me play football naked BlueJohn? Your naughty boy you.

14 Feb 2018 23:57:10
I should have included gender in that comment or at least bust size as long as there something, up top, jiggling about! .

{Ed0333's Note - how about down below jiggling?

15 Feb 2018 03:18:03
I would suspect Ed that in the cold of winter not much would be jiggling.

{Ed001's Note - it wouldn't matter if it was summer or winter, the only thing jiggling would be his gut.}

15 Feb 2018 08:40:50
Back to the question. the one I read said Sam said he couldn't pick him ahead of Niasse whilst Niasse was banging the goals in and creating chances. Added to which he is not at the fitness levels required for the Premier League just yet. That all makes sense to me. It just seems there is an anti Sam brigade who look at things and find negatives. Ed001 calls them toxics. We have the same about Kenwright. Probably the only lifelong fan of a club who has not named a section of the ground after himself yet invested millions of his own money.

{Ed001's Note - hang on, you mean Ed002 mate. Though I see his point about some of them, it is his term. I will never understand how any football fan can have anything but respect for Kenwright and what he has done for Everton.}

15 Feb 2018 08:57:45
Sorry Ed001. But I agree with him on this point. I think we have some fans who would see negatives if we were top of the league and winning the Champions League every season. The toxicity is quite astounding and unbelievable. Like I often say, supporter has ameaning and definition. I think some of ours should be called slaggeroffers or as Ed002 puts it, toxics.

{Ed001's Note - what are you sorry for? You have lost me.}

15 Feb 2018 09:13:36
Mixing you two Eds up. I thought it was you who had said it. not Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - It was me.}

15 Feb 2018 13:28:33
I think sam was alluding to the fact he wasnt giving enough in training posiibly because of the cold. Below is what he was quoted as saying about him.

It will be important for him to train really, really hard particularly when you are walking out and it is chucking it down with rain. It is not that he is not used to it but it is freezing cold. When you are on the grass in short sleeves and shorts and a pair of boots players dont want to stop training and dont want to stop playing football, in fact we have to stop them and say you have done enough lads.

15 Feb 2018 17:29:53
Still not sure how that translates to not picking him however he plays?

15 Feb 2018 18:32:50
Degsy are you ranting at kingo who's asking about Tosuns ability to adapt to our climate or other posts below that are about Sam? It's seems a little out of place on this thread.

I don't think he's having a go at Sam but at Tosun being shy of the cold.

15 Feb 2018 19:52:09
Not ranting at all BlueJohnUns. funny how an inocuous comment can be mis-interpreted. No mate all I was saying was that the original comment was that Kingo78 had heard that Allergy had said he won't pick Tosun until we are mathematically safe. Added to which it was because of the cold weather. He asked was this a true statement? So I responded with what I had heard which was not what had been told to Kingo. It then sort of evolved into me saying that certain elements were just anti Sam A. ie mis-reporting of comments he had allegedly made. Someone else actually told me what Sam Allergy was thinking the other day. I did question was he a mind reader? So no rant. Just a response to a question that was asked.

15 Feb 2018 21:10:43
To answer kingos question Sam actually said in an interview with the echo.

When we are safe and moving forward we will still try and finish as high up as we can but we will have an opportunity to put him (tosun) on the pitch.

Interpret that which ever way you want. To me it tells me he isn't going to play Tosun until we are safe from relegation, others may and probably will interpret it differently.

15 Feb 2018 21:36:10
I don't get the Tosun comment about weather either. Some days and nights in Istanbul in winter it can be 6c/ 1c, and it can certainly chuck it down. I think it is more to do with the pace and fitness required for the Premier League.

15 Feb 2018 21:40:43
I love the fact Sam Allardyce changes to Allergy on your spell checker Degsy. He's a bit like that for us on here. .

15 Feb 2018 22:44:23
I'm not worried so much. It might be a good thing that he has time to get used to things. I saw enough to think he could be a success.

Pair of tights and gloves will sort him out. .

14 Feb 2018 18:40:49
ed25, do you know if baines has gone with the warm weather training group?

{Ed025's Note - i dont know to be honest jcw..

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14 Feb 2018 19:53:18
I bet Tosun has.

14 Feb 2018 20:00:01
All the deadwood WILL mate.

14 Feb 2018 21:02:22
Good one Smit. .

14 Feb 2018 22:02:58
Tosun taking into Sams comments should be having the polar opposite of warm weather training. 6 hrs in a Butchers meat freezer or a half marathon in long johns over in Goose Bay.

14 Feb 2018 23:08:11
not hald DFS.

14 Feb 2018 16:32:44
{Ed's Note - figodasilva has posted a new article entitled, Finishing positions for the bottom half of the Premier League

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14 Feb 2018 11:44:24
Anyone read Kieron Dyer book? interesting about Duncan Ferguson bulling Alessandro Pistone, he has always and still is a hot head (bully) he could be OUR problem, great player BUT.

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14 Feb 2018 13:01:43
I just glad there is one person with standards and a 'only the best will do' attitude at the club.

Feeling a little more reassured.

14 Feb 2018 15:02:37
Big Dunc should stand on the half way line staring at Klopp when we warm up before the Derby and see how long Klopp can hold his nerve. Hell want a witness protection program after that.

14 Feb 2018 15:18:58
He would only do what he always does and whinge to the referee. So far this season, they hav had a few penalty decisions for them and a few against. but typical of "top 4" managers. they are very quick and loud when a decision goes agaist them. but silent when it goes for them! Morinho and Wenger are the worst, but even Wenger seems to be quieting down now.

14 Feb 2018 15:31:18
Dont think Dunc goes near anyone over 6 foot does he?

Prefers the little guys with no nerve.

14 Feb 2018 18:07:33
Feeling nervous Swan? Sorry but set yourself up for that one.

14 Feb 2018 19:15:33
We need more players like Duncan Ferguson.
We have enough to moan about without slagging of our heroes on the word of Kieran Dyer.

14 Feb 2018 19:33:33
Could not agree more mate, Duncan Ferguson True Everton Legend.

14 Feb 2018 20:10:41
Yes he was a legend, but we are taking about bullying off the field? do you all like bully's? sad if you do.

14 Feb 2018 20:29:44
Was he brought to boot for it mate or is it just paper talk.

14 Feb 2018 20:55:46
M8 forget about the player, he is a hothead and has a bad temper, think most of us do but over the years you lean to control it, but some like to dish it out on weaker people, and no its not paper talk.

14 Feb 2018 21:04:18
I'd be more angry at the soft Italian getting paid millions who's not pulling his weight.

14 Feb 2018 21:06:05
ok stig I don't agree to bullying no place for it mte.

14 Feb 2018 21:19:57
Totally stig absolutely detest bullies.

No proof as far as I know with big Dunc.

Tell me one thing. Who in the current set up gives as much determination, grit and never say die attitude as much as big Dunc when he was a player?

The man MAY come across as a bully sometimes. Its speculation but I would guess if it is true that its because he cares so much. Probably more than anyone else does and his anger comes across that way.

That's if the speculation is true in the first place. Don't think anyone would question Dunc's commitment to the club.

14 Feb 2018 21:32:26
Thats what I was trying to say mate.

14 Feb 2018 22:06:23
Remember Carragher holding Big Duncs arm and the look saying 'Good God what am I doing' as Dunc stands over yet another RS casualty.

14 Feb 2018 22:24:43
Todays PC attitude and the group it attracts are what is destroying this Country. Tolerance has disappeared because people are scared out of their nether garments to say what they think. I accept that bullying is and always has been an appalling cowardly attitude to take toward another, but we have to be careful what we perceive as bullying. My friends, Wife (also my friend (I think) ) and kids consider me an extremely disturbed individual that when he worked was intolerant toward others. I pointed out that their perception of intolerance is flawed, yes I was impatient and yes at times I was angry but at the same time received numerous 'good jobs' and 'would you come back's' because of my ability to delegate and trust. Those two actions can only be done if your workforce is on a par with your thinking.

14 Feb 2018 22:58:11
I don't think there is any suggestion of bullying at all. If you don't like him don't. If you do, do. Climb down high horses.

14 Feb 2018 23:28:32
Bullying is deplorable, we all seem to agree, but there wasn't enough information to come to such a conclusion. Pistone told him to eff off, DF has fronted him and told him never to say that to him again. Is that really bullying? Is it DF's fault that Pistone cried due to his aggressive words? Now, if he had taken his dinner money on a daily basis or he was hitting him every day then that is a bully. It's a non-story for me, just something that helps fill out the book of Dyer as well as all taking place at the Toon.

{Ed0333's Note - And also Dyer is one of the biggest cry babys of all time at least Pistons had the balls to swear at DF.

15 Feb 2018 07:33:16
Isn't this the same Kieron Dyer who had a scrap with his own team mate on the pitch? Would take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

15 Feb 2018 08:04:24
its not bullying to confront someone who told you to fcuk off is it? if he didn't confront him and just took it would that not make pistone a bully then? bullying is horrible but some people are too quick to label anything remotley aggressive as bullying, my view of this is dunc stuck up for himself.

15 Feb 2018 10:04:57
Bullying in any form (mental or physical) is wrong.

That is just my opinion not me forcing any of you into thinking that bullying is wrong.

Not saying anything else on the matter.


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