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28 Jan 2018 13:04:56
It's now being reported that Klassen has been offered as well as cash for Bergovic but they want cash only for the deal, any info?.

GuernseyBlue

1.) 28 Jan 2018 15:52:26
Klassen is likely to be available as he’s not playing and Sam has stated many times that he’s keen to trim the squad. Inter have said the same and so are unlikely to be interested in a swap deal. In the next few days, Everton will be open to transfers. If the right players become available, Moshiri will fund moves. Should be a busy few days!


2.) 28 Jan 2018 19:46:27
And if the right players are not available we maybe in a relegation place by May.


3.) 29 Jan 2018 13:02:15
(Everton will be open to transfers. If the right players become available, Moshiri will fund moves. Should be a busy few days! )
Hope you are right mate, but I just carn't see it?


4.) 29 Jan 2018 14:03:49
SAs comments today seem to suggest that he’s in the market and not ruling anything out. Don’t know anything for sure of course, but Moshiri strikes me as a man that likes to splash the cash - he’ll be keen to make his mark on this window. Walcott was a decent start, one or two to follow before Wednesday hopefully!


 

 

28 Jan 2018 13:02:29
Busy time of the year for you all with the window coming to a close, would just like to say a BIG word of thanks for the info you ALL give throughout the year and in particular now at the end of he window with so many questions coming in etc etc can't be easy, i personally think we are going to have a busy last few days of the window with comings and goings, just a feeling mate could be all the sea air over here who knows, but not long to wait till Wed evening bet you can't wait lol, cheers.

GuernseyBlue

1.) 28 Jan 2018 13:29:23
It’s the time of year where Ed’s have to put on their tin hats and await the incoming barrage from us supporters, I can picture the Ed’s on the 2nd of Feb, glass of wine, smoking jacket, complete with a cigar or cig in a long cig holder pen, with a Wry smile on their faces, as the window closes for another term.

Job well done Ed’s.

P. s, be prepared to answer repeated questions over and over as sheer panic sets in from supporters.


2.) 28 Jan 2018 13:58:34
Too right mate don't envy the Eds jobs one bit, such a difficult one to try and give advice to ALL Posters, hmmmmm.


3.) 30 Jan 2018 22:45:54
Whats with the thumb downs?


 

 

27 Jan 2018 20:51:30
More pace gathering on us trying to get Marcelo Brokovic in this window.

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27 Jan 2018 17:55:31
Pardew saying Johnny Evans could be sold for the right price, better than what we have anybody reckon.

GuernseyBlue

1.) 27 Jan 2018 19:23:53
If we are serious going forward we need to sign these players to replace our ageing squad. Or the guy from Swansea or Leicester CB.


2.) 28 Jan 2018 16:18:13
Another case of paying premium for a decent player.


 

 

25 Jan 2018 20:37:05
Salomon Rondon being linked now could be paper talk as ususal.

GuernseyBlue

1.) 25 Jan 2018 21:33:15
Think we are going to be linked with a lot more in the next 5 days Nzonzi rumour won't go away either.


2.) 25 Jan 2018 22:15:31
Yeah just seen that mate.


 

 

 

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19 Feb 2018 18:58:04
Hey Ed 025 just a quick question mate, if as being stated in the rags that Mangala does in fact have knee ligament damage and will be out till the end of the season at least, does he go back to City or does he stay on our payroll cheers mate.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - he will more than likely go back to city GB, clubs have insurance policies for things like this so it wont affect us much mate..


1.) 19 Feb 2018 21:04:54
Thanks Ed.

{Ed025's Note - no probs mate..


2.) 20 Feb 2018 06:53:28
May seem like a daft question Ed but if he does go back and someone else was available could we not get them on loan or are we not allowed?

{Ed025's Note - not allowed im afraid mate..


 

 

18 Feb 2018 14:14:02
Hey Ed 025 don't know if you have seen the latest video interview with Mr Moshiri today but to me its a very exciting one for the Club, he gives an in depth view on the new stadium and his plans for Everton, i do like this guy he loves our Great Club and we are so lucky to have him on board, and a massive thankyou to Bill Kenwright for finding him for us, with all this doom and gloom on here its so refreshing to hear his plans, BRING IT ON, cheers mate.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - i have not read it yet GB but i agree there are good times on the horizon mate..


1.) 18 Feb 2018 19:10:01
Only if we get the right people in the right places we have spent a fortune and gone backwards
I think his heart is in the club and wants what is best for us but he needs to slow down and get better advice.


2.) 18 Feb 2018 19:32:34
I am sure with the new stadium getting closer the rest will come, at least we have a guy in place who only wants the best for Everton, look on the bright side.


3.) 18 Feb 2018 21:30:30
Not seen the video myself yet mate, will do tomorrow. I quite like the guy as well, good owner for us.


4.) 19 Feb 2018 01:55:43
I've no doubt Mr Moshiri will do whatever is needed to take this club forward. The future is definitely brighter COYB.

{Ed0333's Note - Ive no doubts Mr Moshiri will take the club forward. I’m hoping he extends Sam’s contract for another 5 years.


5.) 19 Feb 2018 07:05:35
Ed0333, you are a very naughty boy and should stop antagonising the poor little Everton supporters with your naughty little comments. If I hear any more from you like this, I will make you go to bed early. and even worse, insist on you being an Evertonian yourself. just so you understand what it's like to suffer and be ridiculed! Now stop it!

{Ed0333's Note - I’m on the graveyard shift mate, I edit from around 10pm - 4am and people get naughty at night and I’m no different. I really like KFC I mean EFC as I grew up with Wilko’s fabulous team in the 90’s. If you take note of my editing I’m disparaging and encouraging in equal measure of all teams, I jest with and slag off Liverpool fans also. Come on degsyp lighten up a bit mate it’s only banter and believe me mate I know all about ridicule and suffering you don’t know my mother!


6.) 19 Feb 2018 09:47:33
That's okay Degsy. Ed0333 can be as sarcastic as he likes it doesn't bother me. The revolution has begun at long last and no amount of sniping, good humoured or otherwise, will dampen my enthusiasm. The future is definitely brighter.


7.) 19 Feb 2018 10:15:41
I am sure Everton fans would like to be back to pre Mr Moshiri days, I think not eh mate, as you say definitely brighter.


8.) 19 Feb 2018 15:12:22
I think you are right GB, Judging by the thumbs down it looks like the majority do actually prefer the club pre Moshri days. It would be nice if this could be debated but it looks as though they don't want to, that is their prerogative and we just have to accept it mate.

{Ed025's Note - we should not take thumbs down,s as gospel grumpy, some trolls visit the site and other teams supporters and they will give a thumbs down as a bit of divilment mate..


9.) 19 Feb 2018 16:47:47
Think you might find they were thumbing Ed’s comments, not yours mate.


10.) 19 Feb 2018 10:52:04
Message to Ed0333. No need to tell me to lighten up mate. If I was any lighter, I would float away! It must be the way I write these things. a lot of people tell me to lighten up. or calm down (if Scousers) . but in reality I am sat here with my little pinkies typing away with a big sarcastic grin on my face. Keep it coming nite-shift! We can take it! We are made of tough stuff! Maybe not as tough as you mate. Did you see my earlier post about Evertonians getting off lightly compared with say Leeds or Notts Forrest fans? I am guessing that's the Wilko you are on about. Tough times mate. You have my sympathies!

{Ed0333's Note - I’m so sorry fella I meant Howard Kendall. I had the wrong Howard in my head. I’m old enough to remember Kendall’s team in the 80’s and wow what a team that was. Talk about unison and a collective. Mountjoy, Southall, Reid, Steven, Gray et al. That is the barometer I use to measure Everton, halcyon days! Yes mate while you guys sleep I sow the seeds lol.


11.) 19 Feb 2018 21:13:36
I never even considered that Ed025, cheers mate.

{Ed025's Note - your welcome grumpy mate..


12.) 20 Feb 2018 06:45:36
Is right Ed0333 👍 It still gives me a semi recalling those glorious days 😂 What a squad 😍😍 If we can get somewhere close to that again before my time is up I'll be a very happy bunny indeed 🤞🤞.


13.) 20 Feb 2018 10:40:03
I am more sanguine about Moshiri. It is not even clear that he has invested his own money and is not just a conduit for Usmanov's money. If the latter is true, then if the Kroenke v Usmanov face off at Arsenal is resolved in Usmanov's favour then there is a fair chances that funds for Everton may dry up or worse still that the Usmanov camp will want to take their funds back out.

However, if for the purposes of this discussion, we assume that Moshiri put his own money in then there are some other concerns. Firstly, there is talk of Moshiri having "put £80 mill into the Club" to repay debt and stabilise the balance shee. Does "putting in" mean investing capital or loaned money to the club to repay "external" creditors? As Moshiri's share holding has not increased, it seems likely that any injection of funds is a loan. Owing money to a shareholder is definitely better than owing money to an external creditor on God knows what terms. However, it is stiil a debt and the terms are still relevant.

There are some things here that cause me disquiet. We are told that Everton's balance sheet and income streams were insufficient to encourage banks to lend for the new stadium. They drew no comfort from us having a "billionaire owner". The council has had to underwite any loan via some special purpose financial vehicle.

Why is Everton's fianacial osition not strong enough to lend to? Financially, football clubs are strange beasts. Like regular businesses they have fixed assets, for example Goodison. However, an asset such as Goodison may have little value. This is because it has a specialised use. To use it for any other purpose entails demolition costs and where it is sited is not the most lucrative place to build. However, a lender can take a mortgage on Goodison. It isn't going to be transferred to another club in the summer window.

That is not the case with the other major asset that appear on the books, the players. Players appear on the books at the cost of transferring them in and then that cost is written down over the contract of that player. So a player like Calvert_Lewin who cost £1.5 mill on say a 5 yr term is written down at £300k per year so at the end of year 3 he shows as £600k. On the market he might well sell for £20 million pr more but as an asset to secure a loan £600k.

Then we come to the fact that you can't take a mortgage out on a player. What you can do is take out a debenture. A debenture is a floating charge on all assets of an organisation which don't have fixed charges (i. e. mortgages) on them. The owner of the assets can still trade those assets i. e. the club can sell players until the debenture holder "crystalises" the debenture. At that point dealing in the assets without permission of the debenture holder is frozen and the debenture holder has first call on the sale proceeds.

The fact that Everton's asset base is not sufficient to secure borrowing makes me wonder if there is an existing debenture holder who would have to be paid off before any lender for the stadium. I ask myself who might be the club's major creditor and therefore likely debenture holder?

If I am adding 2+2 to get 5, I apologise.


14.) 20 Feb 2018 13:27:42
Apparently Moshri gave the club an interest free loan to pay off the £80 million we owed. As far as getting a loan for a new stadium goes a few things would come into play.

1) How much do they want to loan £300m - £450m
2) what would the repayment structure be?
3) How would that effect our expenditure?
4) How long would it be over?

Spurs I believe have something in place similar to a bank loan but different in many ways, they can draw anything upto £400 million to build a new stadium, the main difference between them and ourselves is that they have already ploughed some £350 million into the project in land acquisition. Payments for them are over 5 years is LIBOR + 3%, So for every £100 they borrow they payback interest + another 3%. That is an expensive way of borrowing but is normal within London businesses.


15.) 20 Feb 2018 16:20:45
Unless I'm missing something basic Glennk isn't £300k x 3yrs £900k.


16.) 20 Feb 2018 18:00:05
Wow Glennk and co. lots of very interesting comments and questions raised there. I have to say that none of us mere mortals will probably ever get to know the important answers. Suffice it to say that we do appear to be planning a new stadium. We do seem to be signing players (and selling/ realeasing) too. I guess my big fear which I have raised before is that football clubs seem to be better suited to signing 2 or 3 players each transfer window and they do take time to settle in. If you remember, Spurs started their project probably 10 years ish ago. They are still in the middle of it. They also rely a lot on Harry Kane. a homegrown "one of us" player. If Rooney had stayed with us. who knows how we would have done? I would guess we might have done a bit better. but that aside, that is why we really need to unearth a couple of youngsters and one very special youngster. and then do our damnedest to hold on to him whilst we build a team around him. Keep watching the youth and see why we are paying high fees for the likes of Lookman, DCL and Onyekuru. Davies will be key as will Baningeme. But we are talking another few years away. So much more goes on in the background than what a lot of people realise.


 

 

13 feb 2018 18:19:31
grumpy is a legend.

GuernseyBlue

1.) 13 Feb 2018 18:51:28
Is he your Dad mate, lol.


2.) 13 Feb 2018 18:58:57
I always wondered about those adoption papers Stig lol.


3.) 13 Feb 2018 19:06:05
More like brothers mate lol.


4.) 13 Feb 2018 19:24:49
This place is definitely better when your around.


 

 

13 Feb 2018 17:46:25
Hey Grumpy you are a STAR mate some of your posts of late have drawn so many thumbs down it must be a record, your comments and responses have been nothing short of BRILLIANT have you ever thought of becoming a football manager mate, maybe Everton would be a good place, we have so many managers on here after all lol, keep em coming mate.

GuernseyBlue

1.) 13 Feb 2018 18:17:06
Cheers GB mate, us old folk still have a few tricks in us to incite the masses lol.


2.) 13 Feb 2018 18:32:55
You to need to get a room
Only joking.


3.) 13 Feb 2018 18:34:25
As I said below GuernseyBlue he's a legend. Love his view on things. Its very realistic with an overall picture.


4.) 13 Feb 2018 18:46:42
Good post NBTB, you hit the nail on the head there mate.


5.) 13 Feb 2018 18:58:46
He is just a KOS like most of us. Walking across a car park today, espied an equally aged person of the male variety, sat in his rather nice motor (could only see his head above the side window body frame) having a right old grunt and moan at some young lady reversing into a space, taking her time but doing a good job of it. Said to Love of my life, look at that wrinkly, she turned round and said 'that's you'.


6.) 13 Feb 2018 19:12:16
LOL DFS with you all the way on that one mate.


7.) 13 Feb 2018 19:27:42
Excellent DFS mate keep em coming.


 

 

11 Feb 2018 16:47:08
This rumour should please a lot of posters on here, some rags saying Big Sam will be soon be planning for next season at Everton.

GuernseyBlue

1.) 11 Feb 2018 17:38:27
Please no. No no no.


2.) 11 Feb 2018 17:41:07
He said yesterday that some things had already been penciled in for next season and once we are totally safe he will be penciling in a lot more especially regarding the comings and goings.


3.) 11 Feb 2018 18:37:29
💊💉⚰️ I’m done.


4.) 11 Feb 2018 18:58:14
Yes let's give him some more money because he has proven he is good when it comes to additions, let's see Tosun, doesn't get a game, isn't ready yet doesn't feature for the U23 either to give him minutes to get up to scratch, next in Theo, yes I'll let him off with that but realistically everyone knew he was going to be a good addition, and finally Mangala, enough said.
The rags are spouting contradictory stories and some saying the hierarchy are unhappy with our wasteful spending so luckily we don't believe what we read, Sam is a goner come the Summer.


5.) 11 Feb 2018 19:23:56
You could be right mate, not sure myself depends what happens with the last run in of games I guess, but who knows.


6.) 11 Feb 2018 19:29:08
Hopefully Grumpy his going and somebody else's coming :-)


7.) 12 Feb 2018 07:46:57
i think if he gets 7th he should be given next season, realistically when he took over who thought 7th was realistic?
we all no am pro Sam but even the biggest "Sam out" fans have to admit he has performed amazingly well if we somehow get 7th and get Europa league next season, i think 7th and he has earned a chance to try from the beginning next year.


8.) 12 Feb 2018 09:00:31
If he gets given next season (which he won’t anyway) then expect the same sort of season as this one my friends. Many a manager could of got 7th with the team we had when he arrived and the league from 7th downwards being so poor. We almost had 3/ 4 of the season left to play but everyone seem to hit panic buttons. However bad we’ve been this season Sam Alladyce is and never has been the answer. Knee jerk appointment who has already been found out. Let’s be realistic blues, he’s just won a game out of 6. I for one am counting down the days to the summer when we can clear this mess up. Sam Alladyce, Manager of Everton = Shocking.


 

 

 

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18 Feb 2018 19:42:16
Good luck to him if he gets it, will help him in the long run good guy.

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11 Feb 2018 19:25:17
opinions are the best thing mate.

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11 Feb 2018 15:50:41
Too right mate good banter is good for everyone.

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11 Feb 2018 13:52:40
Of course they were here Grumpy mate before Big Sam ever set foot in the doors of Everton, some posters just will not grasp and accept it shame really, but you know the old saying the truth always hurts mate.

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11 Feb 2018 13:00:03
You are right there mate, put money on tho you will get some thumbs down lol.

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19 Feb 2018 21:04:54
Thanks Ed.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - no probs mate..


 

 

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19 Feb 2018 10:15:41
I am sure Everton fans would like to be back to pre Mr Moshiri days, I think not eh mate, as you say definitely brighter.

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18 Feb 2018 19:32:34
I am sure with the new stadium getting closer the rest will come, at least we have a guy in place who only wants the best for Everton, look on the bright side.

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17 Feb 2018 19:25:55
Absolutely Grumpy its just the some of the snidey comments on here lately mate.

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17 Feb 2018 18:21:01
Would like to wish the guy a speedy recovery myself!

GuernseyBlue