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04 Nov 2017 14:28:43
Just read a brief article (Telegraph online) that says Panarama are doing a two part investigation over who actually owns Everton. They are questioning whether Moshiri is doing the bidding of Usmanov, breaking the league rules of having a stake in two clubs. Any eds heard anything on this? Should be interesting to watch.

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30 Oct 2017 00:08:25
What has happened to us? Since the premier league began, we have been the poor relations. We had little cash to spend the moment millionaire owners became paupers as the billionaires rolled into town. As soon as we get decent financial backing behind us we implode spectacularly. We all looked at the previous manager but it seems that there is more than meets the eye.
We have a team low on confidence. A team that doesn't look like they know how to score, rarely working the ball into the box and taking pot shots from 30yards+. A team that keeps less clean sheets than the pontins in Southport. I hated the way RK hooked a player at half-time nearly every week, for me this just shows that he got his tactics wrong in the first place. Rhino subbed two today! I'm not bashing the latter here but surely we should be getting the team, shape and tactics sorted before the game? Without a decent out and out striker, we will continue to struggle but this can be rectified in January. Fingers crossed that we haven't fell too far behind the pack by then. Defensively we are shocking, more so than I can remember. Under DM, we were quite solid at the back but Roberto came in and took 12 months to undo that ethic. We have struggled ever since but it is more noticeable now that Rom has left. I think it is too big a job for Rhino to be expected to take on, especially with his limited experience. Get in a manager for the short-term and put DU as his assistant to learn the ropes. The club needs to be decisive over the next manager and sort this mess out before it becomes a fully fledged crisis.

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1.) 30 Oct 2017 04:04:32
Well said Blue Potato
If you look at our home fixtures from now to Xmas the hardest game is this next one against Watford .
Yes the next few are now hard games but would have been games we would expected to have won comfortably before our present crisis .
We must ensure we give ourselves a fighting chance once January comes and look to make Goodison a fortress and try not to see a big gap open up by then .
Incidentally I think and it won’t help us this year that the fixtures we started with should not be allowed in future .
Yes I know you have to play evryone in the end BUT if you have such a start and loose them it is much harder than if they were spread out evenly from a psychological point of view
We need a minimum of 17 points at halfway and then hope we massively improve from January.


 

 

22 Oct 2017 20:12:17
Where do you start with regards to that today without going over old ground? 5 at the back just doesn't seem to work for us but, if he stays and goes with that formation again, can he please put Keane in the middle of the 3 cb's? There was far too much space between him and Kenny in the first half, the senior pro's should be protecting the younger ones a bit more. I'm seriously worried if no change is made, we lack desire, spirit and any sense of attacking threat. Players don't seem to know where they should be, players are out of position and it shows. There is no passion and any confidence they did have has been sucked out of them in the last month or so. The only positive I could take today was Vlasic, when out wide, looks like he will be a good player for us.
I've seen some bad managers come and go over the years but none of them have ever made me leave the ground early, not Walker not Smith and not Martinez. But two home games on the bounce have seen me leave the ground with ten minutes to go, it's just too painful to watch. The club has serious problems on the pitch and behind the scenes and it needs to be sorted before we become embroiled in a relegation dog fight. We are lucky that, if we go on a run under this manager or his replacement, there isn't too much of a gap between the bottom and the top half of the league. I can't see where the win is going to come from though at this minute but we can only hope. The fans showed the board how disappointed and angry they are by leaving the ground in droves before the game ended, let's hope that they got the message.

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1.) 22 Oct 2017 21:07:32
We all fell into the trap of Koeman the player v Koeman the Manager being the same, myself included. A simple search on his managerial cv would reveal mediocracy and walk outs. Unfortunately I believe in Mr Kenwright and his sidekick Mr Elstone we have instability caused by reaction and an inability to be proactive. This will result in Mr Koeman staying in post until the Fat Lady has returned to bed.


2.) 22 Oct 2017 21:28:13
The only thing I was certain of when we got him was anything has to be better than RM. His walking out of clubs was a negative but I'd be happy if he did that now! I have to disagree with the BK RE comment if only because I've heard it is Moshiri himself who is backing Koeman, up until today anyway. It seems there is friction between RK and Walsh too, he has certainly done himself no favours by alienating his players and staff. It can only be a matter of time before he falls on his sword. Hopefully the Dutch FA will step in so we don't have to pay him millions in compensation.


3.) 23 Oct 2017 03:43:40
Blue potato that's the first time in 20 odd years of having a season ticket that me an me dad have left on the 80th minute. Couldn't bare to watch us get carved open so easily. Going the match has become a chore, I actually hate going now, I grew up through the terrible times of of relegation battles but I enjoyed going the match then, now I just dread it mate.


4.) 23 Oct 2017 07:00:11
I'm with you there OB, seen some terrible teams and bad managers in my time but this is some of the worst football I have witnessed. At least the bad teams of the past had a bit of fight and tenacity about them. I was lucky to be around to see the success of the 80's and I thought we could actually kick on this year with more cash than we had seen in the prem era. I dread it too mate, RK is ruining it for me at the minute.


 

 

03 Oct 2017 20:55:08
Trying to escape the entire RK debate, is anyone else sick of Roy Keane's bleating every time Jimmy Mac gets called up to the Irish squad? He always seems to have cheap shots at EFC over this issue when his Association need to take responsibility over the players welfare as well. He's been out for a while now so it is irresponsible to call him up in the first place, surely they only want a fit JMc in their squad? Keane himself admitted the player was only 70% fit but I'd bet they still give him minutes on the pitch. It's a never ending cycle of him getting injured, going through rehabilitation to get fit, called up to national team, gets injured. Instead of this constant sniping in the press, the club and the Irish FA need their heads banging together over this issue.

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03 Oct 2017 11:52:26
I'm seeing and hearing a lot of supporters wanting Rhino to be given a chance if we do get rid of RK. I think he is doing a great job with the U23's and I love the fact that he is a massive blue but I'm not too keen on him being given the reigns for the senior squad. How many ex-players from any club, who have none or little experience of managing in the proper leagues, actually make a success of being in control? Giggs and Shearer spring to mind, two great players for their boyhood clubs who failed in their attempts of managing in the premier league. There are probably more to add to that list. If Rhino, or Dunc for that matter, have aspirations of becoming Everton manager then they need to learn their trade first and foremost. Whether that be starting further down the ladder and gaining experience or, if RK is relieved of his duties, by becoming assistant to the next manager and learning the ropes from them. Either way, the stakes are very high to throw in a novice and expect them to perform miracles and break into the top four. I understand the romantic notion but I fear he would be on a hiding to nothing.

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1.) 03 Oct 2017 15:31:31
Well I would be happy if Unsworth was given Koeman's brother's job if Koeman is staying since I fail to see what the brother brings to the table. Would give Unsworth the experience and with Ferguson they could replace a "YES" man with two Evertonians who would not be frightened to let Koeman know when he was making the wrong decisions. Will not happen since Koeman and his brother are a double act.


2.) 03 Oct 2017 15:41:42
In my time watching Everton we have only won the league or a cup with ex players. Harry Catterick, Howard Kendall and Joe Royale with Colin Harvey winning the Charity Shield, Granted they learned their trade away from Goodison but there is no reason why Rhino can't make the step up, Ex player, loves and knows the club inside out, so its Rhino for me.


3.) 03 Oct 2017 16:46:46
That's a long way in the past, 1995 last trophy 22 years ago, the premier league has changed a lot and so has the pressure on clubs, players and managers.
I would not want to see Big Dunc or Unsy fall from grace in a managerial role they are not ready for, I would think Alan Stubbs is more qualified if you went down this route, U23's to senior level is a massive step!


4.) 03 Oct 2017 17:12:38
He has a 100% record as first team boss lol. He is certainly an option if Koeman departs, but have Joe Royal along side Rhino again, like against Norwich. Big Dunc is too big a risk. At least Unsworth is managing players week in week out. Who knows, Lookman may get a game and Kenny and the like be given the chances they deserve.


5.) 03 Oct 2017 18:19:38
Giggs and shearer were thrust straight into management with no real experience of managing.

DU has been slowly learning his style with our youth, it makes a big difference.

You never know if he can do it unless you take the chance.


6.) 03 Oct 2017 18:28:02
Big NO to Dunc, loved him as a player but he only got the job because he is one of Bills mates.


7.) 04 Oct 2017 08:10:05
Pep and Zidane both ex players who haven't done to bad, Zidane given one of the hardest jobs in world football and that was from the same position as Unsworth is at Everton. The way I see it is the players don't respect the man in charge and he has lost the dressing room, Unsworth is Everton through and through.


8.) 04 Oct 2017 10:22:57
its a trick one, as obviously unsworth is not a big name in world football, unlike zinedine zidane and pushing it pep, but you don't have to have been the biggest name in football to attract big players, mourinho etc.

tough thing is its a big jump into a really troubled club, Barcelona and real were stable, although massive pressure, they had the quality players there, we have glimpses of good but mostly shocker.


 

 

01 Oct 2017 22:17:15
I never wanted RM as manager and I was happy to see him go. I couldn't stand his arrogance, his over-the-top praise of his players, his positive spin on every bad performance or his constant BS in post-match interviews. Us fans cried out for someone to get a grip of the squad and we got his polar opposite to replace him. RK is a disciplinarian, no doubt about it. But he has managed to alienate players with his brutally honest opinions, Ross and Kev spring to mind. RK likes to slate his players in the press when he should maybe keep these things in-house. And today he has proved to be up there in the BS stakes in his interview after this afternoons shambles. It smacks of a man who already knows his fate. At least RM had a plan, of sorts, RK doesn't seem to have one or at least it isn't very noticeable. In the end, the thing that will get him the chop is a trait he shares with our last manager and that's stubbornness.
His team selection are predictable and tedious. We play too narrow and always with two holding midfielders at the expense of some creativity on the wings. Our FB's are isolated most of the time, having to pass backwards as there is nobody in front of them. RK bemoans the fact that Bolasie is out injured but where will he play him when fit? No other winger seems to get a look in. Vlasic was quite effective cutting in from out wide in the opening exchanges today so it is absolutely crazy that RK instructed him to play more centrally in the 2nd half.
Williams is not good enough, I wince whenever the ball goes near him, he's a liability. Martina much the same, the two are targeted by the opposition every week and we can't afford to have two weak links out of four in the back-line. Holgate and Kenny are the future and should be ahead of the other two. I'd rather they make mistakes and learn from them as they get valuable experience. They couldn't do much worse.
It seems to me, and I could be wrong, that he has lost the dressing room now and I don't think he will ever get it back. I wasn't down with the 'RK out' brigade but he is backing himself into a corner with every point we drop and I just can't see how he turns things around.
Final pooint, and I apologise for rambling, what is the relationship between Walsh and Koeman? Who sanctioned the purchases of 3 number 10's? We knew we needed a new CF months in advance so it was daft to bring in all 3 and not secure a goal scorer. Walsh needs to buck up his ideas for me too. Here's to the next home game when we go through it all again! COYB.

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1.) 02 Oct 2017 09:52:04
Hit the nail on the head. My whole issue with walsh and koeman is forget the three number tens for a min. But we all knew lukaku was off. we had the whole transfer window to get in a decent replacement and didnt. that's the issue for me. When we get high up the pitch we just don't have a target man to look for.


2.) 02 Oct 2017 10:13:50
A club's decision to buy an assist king for 45million without a target to hit is suicide. We actually bought a shoe for a footless leg. This decision alone deserved someone to get the chop. I fear the players we bought are loosing value rapidly. If we continue with this manager we could loose far more than his settlement.


3.) 02 Oct 2017 10:37:00
Superb summarization Blue Potato could not have put it better . Whole club is in free fall and has been for some time . The CF issue is beyond words and incompetence is not a strong enough word to use and as Talaghblue said if he not shown the door loosing his compensation money could be a very small loss compared to relegation .
Loose at BHA then we have Arsenal we could be doomed!
Now the players are complaining we as fans are upsetting them with our groans etc .
What's the new sponser Angry Birds more like Moaning Tarts.


 

 

 

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29 Nov 2017 16:03:34
The reason he fell off the radar was for comments relating to the disabled. Something along the lines of his opinion was that we are all reincarnated once we die and that those who are disabled are paying the price of wrong doing in a previous life.

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22 Oct 2017 21:44:24
I think people are getting carried away with blaming BK, every time something goes wrong he seems to take the flak. On occasions it's warranted but not in this current predicament, this is of RK's making. Bad tactics, bad team selection, bad everything! Bill hasn't had a history of interfering with staff or players so I couldn't see why he would start now. If he did then I doubt Barkley would be on his way out. RK is Moshiri's man, he wanted him so bad he threw shed loads of cash his way.

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18 Oct 2017 15:42:30
I doubt he would even contemplate being our manager when he has got such close ties to the rs and with how toxic the animosity is between the two sets of fans. I've always felt that he took over teams at the right time and never really rated him but his time at Newcastle has changed my thoughts a little. Respect where it is due I suppose. That said, I wouldn't want him as our next manager when the time arises.

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08 Oct 2017 23:01:54
Keep the lad and give him some game time, he needs to learn when to do things and when to pass but that will come with experience. All these links to southern teams is quite worrying, I read the lad was homesick well before any links to clubs came out. Have you heard anything about him wanting a return to London ed?

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03 Oct 2017 12:04:23
Good post GV. I have to agree that it seems RK has lost the dressing room maybe the players don't like his brutal honesty, maybe he goes over the top when calling them out in the press. But, as you say, something just doesn't seem right. I'd ignore the press speculation as to who will take over if RK does get the boot, we were linked with all sorts of managers before we appointed the current boss. Only the bookies win in that situation by throwing names in who have no chance yet fans will have a punt on them regardless. I'd be happy if RK could turn this slump around but I'm not too optimistic that this will happen. A shame really.

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13 Nov 2017 19:11:23
You've got to feel for the lad if you ask me. I mean, four or five hours on the training pitch per day plus having to watch videos of the opposition and he is only on the amount that Mowfee82 has worked out. I think we should maybe set up one of them just giving accounts, top up his wages and soften the blow of all that hard work he does that obviously makes him cry.

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07 Nov 2017 16:20:41
Got to admit that I'm having the same thoughts, not sure if I will go to the games if SA gets the job. Will just have to find a mug to take my season ticket! He's a pompous, over-hyped, over-rated manager and is a bit greedy when it comes to making a few quid on the side. If we have any aspirations to eventually break the top four then this is a few steps backwards.
Corleone, I get what you are saying but disagree entirely. I know you don't visit our site to wind people up and you usually have valid points so there is a healthy level of respect from us to yourself. That said, I class myself as a fan and have been since I was a kid, first game in '82. I'm lucky that I've seen us achieve success but I've also seen some tripe, both managers and players. Walker was a poor appointment, no question about it. I felt a bit sorry for Smith as he had to work under one of the worst chairmen in our history. Little cash to spend and players sold behind his back. Moyes did well but let himself down the moment he left with his comments and derisory bids for our players. For me, fat Sam would be like going back in time, his style of football is dull and boring his reluctance to play kids goes against everything that our club stands for. So I will be forced to think long and hard whether or not I want to spend my time watching such dross that he tends to serve up. That doesn't mean I'm not a fan, I will still look out for my team just maybe not from my usual seat. If we had ten games left and in trouble I may have a different outlook on this man, given his track record at escaping relegation. It's far too early to believe we will be in the mire, although we still need to improve our form, or to call for such desperate measures as employing fireman sam in my opinion!

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29 Oct 2017 17:04:06
If we continue to play like we have of late then they will all be championship players next season.

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28 Oct 2017 11:54:49
Agree GB, I think he needs to be shown the ropes by working under the next manager before flying solo at some point in the future. Stig, that just your opinion or do you know BK and have been privy to a conversation between him and FM?

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27 Oct 2017 07:17:57
People seem to be a bit critical of Rooney since he came back from what I see in this and other forums. But what did we all expect from him? It's no secret that we lost goals when Rom left but I would have been happy if Wayne chipped in with 10 goals, with others bagging around the same spreading the goals out a bit and not being reliant on one player. He's got 4 so far so he's nearly half way for me. Let's not forget that not many, if any, have been performing anywhere near the required levels in the league. We all seem to agree that this is down to the previous manager so hopefully they will all improve going forward from now. I think they should all start with a clean slate and be judged on what they do starting this weekend.

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