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21 May 2018 20:08:44
According to BBC sport Emery to be the next Arsenal manager. So that's him off our list lol.

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21 May 2018 20:42:35
Nah we don't do successful, we like to go for failed Managers, rather like watching a couple of girls that dig each other Everton think they can turn them.

21 May 2018 23:01:35
I'm in no doubt we had a sniff. Blew us off at the 1st flutter of our eyelids.

Out of our league.
For now.

21 May 2018 23:06:12
Feeling positive then DFS even before the new manager has got onboard.

22 May 2018 08:49:03
Southern Toffee. I said the same about Martinez but there again I supported the appointment of Koeman. Just I have a nagging feeling about Silva, he failed at Hull even with the new Manager boost and at Watford (their claim it was Everton's fault is just so much BS, they hired the bloke to do a job and he failed) . Not negativity just common sense assessment. I do not really have the answer but would have thought with the swiftness of change Moshri has instigated he has taken good advice from somewhere. After all is said and done, whoever Everton hire will have my 100 percent support, as it should.

21 May 2018 11:37:29
Perfect manager for me would be Ralph Hasenhuttl - who has just left RB Leipzig.

Would love a team built around young, exciting players like Leipzig have been. And we have the players already to do it - Pickford, Kenny, Robinson, Holgate, Connolly, Davies, Baningime, Vlasic, Dowell, Lookman, DCL.

Eds - are you aware of any interest in him from the club?

{Ed001's Note - no mate sorry.}

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21 May 2018 15:52:21
I mentioned him the other day but still think it will be Silva.

21 May 2018 18:17:44
Hassenhutti have to google him but great name.

21 May 2018 11:10:15
Some people who run football clubs are genuine fans, but don't have the wealth to finance progress.
Others may have the wealth, but aren't fans and are only in it to make money.
Apart from Steve Gibson (Middlesbrough) - and perhaps the Coates family (Stoke City) - who else has the wealth AND is a genuine fan of their club?

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21 May 2018 12:29:11
Usmanov, Ashley, Kenwright and Moshiri are genuine fans of the clubs they are invested in.

21 May 2018 12:34:20
Kenwright is.

21 May 2018 13:47:15
Smit666: Kenwright is a fan, but is not wealthy enough. The other three are wealthy enough, but I doubt that Ashley supported NUFC and I doubt that Moshiri supported EFC before they became owners.

21 May 2018 14:06:07
moshiri supported arsenal mate when he invested there.

21 May 2018 14:13:59
What's your point Bobby?

21 May 2018 14:55:48
I’m not making any particular point - I’d just like to see how many clubs have wealthy fans as owners - which probably means they have the best interests of the club at heart and the wherewithal to realise it.

21 May 2018 15:22:08
Mike Ashley is a Chelsea fan. Genuine.

21 May 2018 15:59:44
It's a much more common trend in lower league clubs. My cousin bought his local club a fair few years back and said it's his biggest regret, it's just a money pit. It perhaps suggests that not supporting the club you buy is the best approach because if you support them you will likely end up throwing in everything you have causing financial ruin, instead of attempting to run it as a business.

21 May 2018 17:11:50
If fans were told they could run their club, but would have to fund it by mortgaging their homes, or giving up their life savings, or have money taken out of their wages, how many - even the diehard fans - would do that (even if they could afford to do it) ?
Fans are great at expecting other people to finance their club. Buying a season ticket and the replica kit is as far as most fans can go. Running a football club is a money-fit in almost every case - and fans don’t like owners to take money out.

{Ed025's Note - very true that bobby..

21 May 2018 11:07:59
If a new left-back will only sign for us if we make him first choice (albeit not guaranteed) starter ahead of Leighton Baines (who'd become the backup/ cover) , would you accept that as fans?

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21 May 2018 11:31:17
If he is a better left back then yeah. I'd be playing Antonee Robinson left back in cup games this season. But for a Baines replacement I'd think Frank Fabra, Joe Bryan or Aarron Martin.

21 May 2018 12:01:25
LB is certainly required.
Baines is still ok. He's not as desperate to be ousted from the team as say, Williams of Jags.

I'm sure a younger LB of quality would be able to displace Baines quickly but I think Baines still has something to offer.

Ideally he'd be into his last season for us. But we have a knack of having really old long serving defenders.

21 May 2018 12:08:35
keep baines integrate Robinson this year ready to take over next year for me like i really rate him.

21 May 2018 12:18:38
got to start giving baines limited time really, if we got a new left back I think the season would be a season of rotating them easing the new one in and easing good ol bainsey out.

21 May 2018 14:15:57
It only works like that with a youth player.
We're probably just going to go a buy a ready made LB. So it will be a simple shoot out of the best player gets picked.

21 May 2018 11:07:07
Although we should aspire (even try) to sign the best players, do you agree that we really need to be in the Champions League in order to attract those players to Everton?

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21 May 2018 12:06:00
Its not about agreeing. It's been a fact for over 20 years.

The very best will only play in CL.
Wages can help sway but some players stay in their domestic leagues because they are guaranteed CL. All the Greek and Turk teams. The Scots and most of the Scandinavians.

A 3rd place or above I'd the spot to get. That is a sure fire way to sign a top top player. Nice and early in the window. 4th (as we know from back in the day) for a team like us isn't enough to attract anyone. Especially (as we did) you get beat in the qualifier. Makes it all pointless.

21 May 2018 12:07:47
money wins over champs league for some players so it depends on the individual really.

21 May 2018 12:19:56
only thing about that is some 'big' players that are swayed by the cash and not the competitiveness sometimes come and just take their pay packet and go home.

21 May 2018 13:13:25
Just take a look at the players who have gone to China, it's certainly not for the standard of football they are going to play, offer big money and you have a good chance, but if you only offer the same or not a lot more money than the team in champions league then obviously they will go to them.

21 May 2018 14:09:10
yeah but as my point above look at how they've performed in china.

21 May 2018 15:55:37
4th place goes straight into group stages from this year.

21 May 2018 17:17:55
ToffeeAL: I believe there is a scenario (which didn’t happen this year) where English clubs win the UCL and the UEL - but they finish outside the PL top-four.
They get 2 of England’s UCL places, while the top-3 in the PL get the other places. England only get a maximum of 5 UCL places. The PL team in 4th goes into the UEL.

21 May 2018 11:06:24
Considering Brands' comments about too much player turnover in recent years - but also noting that we have too many professionals on the books - do you expect lots of departures (permanent and loan) and just a few quality signings in key positions?

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21 May 2018 12:07:07
in a simple answer, Yes.

21 May 2018 12:10:09
I would expect a lot of lessons learned from last summer.

I think 4 or 5 very good players for 1st team. That's more than enough in one window. With another 2 or 3 in January.

I'm sure we will still sign lots of new players but mostly for u23s.

I'd expect a lot of outs too. Lots of our loans over the last 2 seasons havnt become 1st team contenders. They should all be gone as well.
The squad is a mess but the defence is in a dire state.

21 May 2018 20:10:58
We have learnt a lot from last year - so we sign another 8 players next season? If we do that we have learnt nothing.

21 May 2018 11:05:27
Do you want Everton to have an Executive-Chairman who is involved hands-on with the day-to-day running of the club OR do you want a Chairman who's non-executive (more of a figurehead) albeit still a leader and a strategist.

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21 May 2018 11:04:47
There are several Everton players that many fans would be glad to get rid of, but are there any that you would very much want to be kept at the club? Only Pickford and Lookman seem to be wanted by most fans.
What about loans for DCL, Davies, etc.?

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21 May 2018 12:06:41
think tom should stay and play with us this year nut a loan for dom to a lower prem team would be good for his development.

21 May 2018 12:18:21
Apart from Pickford and Lookman from the 1st team squad i'd keep Baines, Coleman, Jags, Keane, Robles, Sigurdsson, Davies, Holdgate, DCL, Gueye, Walcott, Tosun. Would offer Robles a new contract and try to sell Steklenberg, if I could not sell him just let Robles go on his free and keep Steklenberg. Would also try to get sales for Bolaise, Besic, Williams, Mori, Rooney, Martina, Schniderlin, Niasee, McCarthy and Mirallas. Loan out Klassen and Sandro what we can't sell keep.

21 May 2018 12:21:15
not seen anyone saying they'd get rid of theo sig coleman or gana mate, four key players.

21 May 2018 11:04:01
Have any of our returning loanees (Besic, Browning, Byrne, Gray, Mirallas, Pennington, Sandro, Charsley, Connolly, Dowell, Galloway, Lookman, Mathis, Robinson and Williams J. ) done enough to have earned a place in the Everton first-team squad?

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21 May 2018 12:05:04
lookman, dowell and robinson should be in the first team squad, the rest no not really charsley Byrne grey and connelly maybe another season long loan would benefit and i personally would sell the rest.

21 May 2018 11:02:09
This is what NewsNow clearly state about themselves:
"NewsNow aims to be the world's most accurate and comprehensive Everton FC news aggregator, bringing you the latest Toffees headlines from the best Everton sites and other key regional and national news sources. Whether it's the very latest transfer news from Goodison Park, quotes from the manager's press conference, match previews and reports, or news about the Toffees' progress in the Premier League or FA Cup, we've got it covered. from each site is brought to you automatically and continuously 24/ 7, within around 10 minutes of publication. N. B. Relevance is automatically assessed, so some headlines not qualifying as Everton rumours might appear. "
So, they do not research or verify the stories; instead they trawl the Internet and repeat the stories they find. Each of the individual "news" items they repeat can themselves often be traced back to (and are sometimes openly attributed to) a single original source. Several items are "opinion" articles - from fan forums, etc. - rather than reports of factual events.
By the way, I do read (and enjoy) NewsNow, as I find it interesting and have I nothing against what they do, but I certainly take the items with a pinch of salt.
Repetition of the same item doesn't make it true, but it does tend to make it a hot topic - and it becomes the clickbait that the provider wants.

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21 May 2018 16:01:21
Did you notice they had stories on the Everton page about Tom Davies Being sent off at the end of the season? Turns out it was Tom Davies of Coventry nothing to do with the everton player.

21 May 2018 17:22:45
ToffeeAL: exactly - they admit they don’t check the relevance!


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