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18 Feb 2017 14:54:06
Just like to say I think the biggest thing I've noticed is the confidence is back, just like back when moyes made goodison a fortress, now we are starting to play the koeman way, it's all starting to take shape, think in the summer,3/ 4 New faces we can have a real good go at the top 4,don't like all the negative stuff from people, things take time, next season if it all goes tits up then moan but not this season.

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19 Feb 2017 12:23:23
It won't go tits up though. In Koeman we have a proven winner who enjoys International respect and importantly the respect of his Squad. With the other guy, we (well me and a few others) just knew he was a disaster waiting to happen. Why the heck he was given a contract extension at the end of just one season is beyond me.

16 Feb 2017 12:12:14
Does anyone know if there is real interest in RK from Barca?

I recall that someone asked this question in the past and Ed02 mentioned that there was a shortlist of preferred managers but RK wasn't on that list (either that or I dreamt up this whole situation) .

{Ed002's Note - try the Barcelona page.}

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16 Feb 2017 15:59:15
C Toffee Ed actually said RK was on the list but not at the top.

17 Feb 2017 09:10:13
Thanks Ed will check out the page.

Thanks Bill, clearly my memory is going.

15 Feb 2017 09:17:41
Does anyone know how many of Rom's goals are at home compared to away? I just have a sneaking feeling he is scoring many more at home. because of this pressing game and intensity that we do at home. When we are awaay and sitting deeper, he seems to get isolated. Maybe we need to think about our away performances and how we use him? He seems to be so isolated against some of the lower teams when we are away.

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15 Feb 2017 12:43:25
I shouldn't get to worried as our style of play will develop away from home as RK's influence takes greater hold. At the moment believe it or not the quality in depth is still not there and the process of identifying the players that fit RK's profile is ongoing. The summer and pre-season will see further changes for the better. This is only 7 1/ 2 months into an initial 2 year project on the playing side (longer on the commercial and new stadium side) , but our progress has been in my view ahead of schedule so far.

15 Feb 2017 16:42:58
Couldn't agree more Bill 100% correct in my opinion, So I will shut up and re-emerge at a later date.

15 Feb 2017 17:04:46
Well I was probably the most negative one on here under Martinez. But as soon as we got Walsh I was happy. A couple of other posters on here were also "critical" of my posts but in a positive way and I would like to say a public thank you to these guys because I could see that it really was starting to be out with the old and in with the new. NBTB was one and also BlueJohn Uns. Others also helped me see that at last progress was indeed being made. don't get me wrong, I can still see setbacks ahead. but not the impending relegation that I really could see coming under Martinez. I used to use the "r" word and be heavily criticised for it. I now use the "E" word. but cautiously. Yes Rom might decide to leave. But we will surely get in the region of 100 million for him now? At 23 with a guaranteed 20+ goals a season with a struggling club. he must be looking at 40 goals a season by the time he is 26 years old in a winning side! That with Walsh's keen eye will surely mean 3 decent players. You can see the quality of our recent young signings. You can also see our defence toughening up. particularly at set pieces. You can see how the pressing game works when all the players are in tune. I am hoping we will make a couple more good signings in the summer and let the older players move on. We still might get the odd frustrating game. but wow what a difference to a season ago! Finally it is worth mentioning it is nice to see us change shape mid games to try and get a winner or equaliser. Koeman is quite astute at seeing how we need to move extra into midfield or press higher or have more width. and he does it. I love the way he says it like it is. Why waffle around something when it clearly is not right!

16 Feb 2017 06:10:26
It's 8 home goals to 7 away goals this season at least, so not much difference. That being said, he does appear to get more chances at home. It's amazing what 4 or 5 months has changed for you Degsy. You have gone from the most negative by a country mile to probably being in the top 5 most positive. It's nice to see you so upbeat. I will be satisfied if we stay in 7th (as I would have taken that at the start of the season) but I will be over the moon if we manage to improve on 7th by the end of the season. Exciting times ahead!

16 Feb 2017 08:14:21
Cheers mate. Yes I feel positive again. I did used to be positive prior to Martinez. and now I am again. Enough said!

16 Feb 2017 10:00:56
the only thing I don't agree with is, you say Lukaku will leave and we will command 100 million as he is scoring 20+ for a struggling side. first we would struggle to get 60 million so 100 million is dream land, 2nd we are no longer a struggling side.

we are a team moving up 7th in the premiership is probably 3rd in la liga by comparison and we really need to lose this mentality that our better players are going to leave us. as his agent said we are a different beast now. do you remember when Lukaku first signed up with this clown, he said he would never of signed for us if he was his agent.

now since moshiri came in he has done a complete u turn and wants lukaku to sign a new deal which benefits both sides and guarantees top dollar for lukaku ie wages and us a transfer fee.

the difference being we will hold the all the cards and will only accept a bid if it suits us. I don't think lukaku is now pushing to leave and willing to wait 2 seasons (including this one) to see if we can challenge.

so all I'm saying is our club is now run like a top premiership club (with some changes still needed). so it's time for us fans to behave the same. if lukaku comes out and says he wants to go goodbye and good luck, but unless he puts a transfer request in, he is staying anyway. come on you mighty blues.

16 Feb 2017 10:03:10
The re-emergence of everton is coupled with degsy positivity. Is it a coincidence. Keep up the positive posts and enjoy the new journey like the rest of us.

16 Feb 2017 14:38:38
I think we all felt the way you did at some point over the past 2 years Degsy. For me you're a passionate supporter that worships the blues.

We all don't agree on certain things and that's the beauty of a place like this, to get a different perspective.

I know though we will all be thinking and feeling the same thing when we win a trophy in the next couple of years or so. Fingers and everything else crossed 😉.

16 Feb 2017 17:39:32
BLUEY79 I never said he WOULD leave. just that it is a possibility and surely by the time (if he does) leaves. he will be worth 100mil. Pogba went for 85 mill!

16 Feb 2017 19:17:49
Firstly let me say that I can see a lot of positive thing happening to our club. Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh are great additions and we seem to be moving forward from a business viewpoint. However, on the business side I will not be happy until I see the new stadium on the dock signed and sealed. I have been through one "ring fenced" scenario and I don't want to go through another.
On the playing side Koeman has done a lot of good things and I am very please with what I see. However I was positive about Martinez during his first year and then it went belly up. Koeman has been fortunate in having Lukaku who Martinez signed and also having the benefit of Davies and Holgate coming through to the first team. I know he is the one that gave them the chance but he did not bring them to the club. No doubt Koeman has improved the existing players especially from a fitness viewpoint. However he still has a lot of work to do in recruiting players and keeping key players like Lukaku.
So summing this up I see a lot of positives with the Koeman reign but I am not over the moon just yet. Let's see how we finish off the year and what reinforcements we bring in in the summer before we get too carried away with this new found optimism.

16 Feb 2017 20:15:06
We all see things differently. Who knows what would happen if Lukaku leaves? It could turn out to be a positive thing. Don't get me wrong, the last thing I want is Lukaku gone.

Back when Lineker left everyone thought we would struggle the following season without him. Everyone knows we went one better the following season and took the cup. Point is it was a blessing in disguise.

Not saying for one minute we should let Lukaku go but the point is everything would if he left. No one knows whether the end result would be positive, negative or indifferent. We can all be clever in hindsight.

This is truly what I hope happens. Lukaku stays for the long term and Koeman builds a good team around him. I honestly think we are not far off challenging at the top. If we keep going in the direction we are we will get there sooner than people think imho.

Chelsea are out on there own this season but the following 5 teams are very close to each other. I expect us to be challenging and competing as much as any of these 5 come the end of next season. A bit of luck and Walsh working his magic during the summer would make it very achievable imho.

17 Feb 2017 07:14:45
To further add to your point NBTB, when Rooney left after we finished 17th we all thought that was it, but we finished 4th that season (don't know how looking at that team lol) .

I agree that losing Lukaku may not be the end for our top 4 hopes next season, as Walsh will surely be able to find a gem or two to replace him, but I am worried about a scenario where Koeman and Lukaku leave.

That being said, if you read the Echo article about the Koeman-Barcelona link, then it becomes clear that Koeman may not be the best fit for Barcelona. Koeman is too outspoken, and also does not like superstars in the dressing room. At the moment Messi, Suarez and Neymar are almost bigger than the club itself and may not appreciate Koeman's style of management. As I said before though, if Barcelona offer Koeman a contract he will bite their hands off for it.

15 Feb 2017 08:09:47
Just a small concern, folks.

After Barcelona got trounced last night and it looking increasingly likely Enrique will leave at the end of the season, I have a huge worry they may try to move for koeman.

I hope he stays because he is showing signs of building a whole club ethos and his methods are getting into the players.

But. who can resist Barcelona if they call?

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15 Feb 2017 09:13:49
Too many ifs and buts to really get concerned. 1. will Barcelona sack Enrique? 2. will they really want Koeman already? 3. is there anyone else they are considering? . yes it may happen but I wouldn't worry too much.

{Ed002's Note - Try the Barcelona page where you might find some answers.}

15 Feb 2017 10:19:34
Probably not the best time to go to Barcelona, their team albeit full of world class players is showing its age. Besides koeman has a chance to take Everton to the top of what is the best league in the world. That is why we have Mourhino, Guardiola, Klopp, wenger and Koeman managing in this league.

15 Feb 2017 19:09:09
All very true and maybe Guardiola is struggling in this country, it may be an excuse for him to go back to Barca.

15 Feb 2017 19:52:50
Martinez would be an obvious candidate with his connection and his teams play the Barcelona way.

15 Feb 2017 22:17:08
Could be a big plus, the board are right behind Ronnie, so it's a big win for Everton, he has all the amour he needs to rebuild big in the summer if he stays, with the board investing big on players to keep Ronnie, every cloud has a Silver lining.

16 Feb 2017 09:32:23
I don't think it's a case of whether or not Koeman will go to Barcelona, as I'm fairly certain he will if given the chance. It is however a case of whether they want him or not. They will have a shortlist of several managers (mentioned on the Barcelona page) and will decide who they feel is best for them.

13 Feb 2017 19:02:09
Delboy playing for AC Milan against Lazio tonight lads 7:30 BT Sport 3. Let's hope he has a big game.

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13 Feb 2017 23:33:28
Well he didn't really. Mind you the standard of football is grim.

13 Feb 2017 14:31:11
Strange one but good luck to the yak. Signed for Coventry til the end of season.

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13 Feb 2017 14:58:47
There going to need more than the yak to stop then from going down hope he does well at 34 he should be ok in that league.

13 Feb 2017 15:18:31
Surprised moyes didn't try sign him for Everton old boys.

13 Feb 2017 18:54:22
34, surely he's 27 years old tops, or will be by the time Coventry get his birth Certificate.

14 Feb 2017 17:39:58
Hahaha love it baz 😂😂.

13 Feb 2017 13:31:51
Hi Eds it's in the papers again today about Barkley holding back on his contract they seem to blame RK and the way he treated him? What do you think.

{Ed007's Note - Contract negotiations these days are like a game of chess crossed with call my bluff mate and there will be a lot more newspaper room used up about it all before Barkley's is sorted one way or another.}

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13 Feb 2017 14:31:35
He's started to play better after RK had a few words anyway so something must have hit home. But we need to keep the young team together.

13 Feb 2017 18:51:56
I reckon Barkley is playing better because he's slimmer and fitter now. Also RK getting better quality around him. Papers love a story especially when it's a young blues player. And let's face it they have to write about something.

14 Feb 2017 18:06:40
Agree with you there woburn. And i can't see barkley going anywhere anytime soon. I had the pleasure of giving him a lift home from a game once about 6-7 years ago when he was a ballboy, he got my cousin a ticket who rang me at half time to say he was also at the match an if i'd mind giving him an his mate a lift home, when i got outside the ground there was my cousin standing with this mountain of a kid, all shy an quiet, perfectly mannered lad who couldn't thank me enough for the lift.

i had a new vectra at the time which was a big spacious car, the lads head was touching the roof an his knees up 2 his chest, he's a beast. He just adores everton, typical scouse everton fan kid who's dream was always to play for everton.

My cousin an his dad was always banging on about barkley since he was a proper kid saying he's honestly the best player they have ever seen, not being biased because they know him but because he was just an unbelievable footballer who had it all in the locker.

I spoke to my cousin a few weeks ago about him an i asked if he was considering leaving with the spurs rumours going round an not getting as much football as he would have liked at the time an he said no chance, the only way he would leave everton is if we got rid of him cos he wouldn't want to play for anyone but his boyhood dream club.

I think thays why we've seen a better barkley of late because he wants to fight to keep his dream alive. Hope the lad achieves everything we know he can with our great club an help us fill up that trophy room a bit more. Him an davies are the future of our club.

14 Feb 2017 22:55:28
His agent is doing his job. Like it or not that's the nature of the game. Barkley will stay with us all the money talk was always going to get agents pushing for bigger contracts. Its pure posturing. He looks fitter even with the odd comment from RK he's got to realise he's progressing. His pre goal celebration to me looked like a confidence he's not had before.

12 Feb 2017 15:26:52
Nice little Sunday statistic for you. We are twice as close to 2nd in the league than we are to the relegation places . Suck it up Martinez.
Enjoy your Sunday guys.

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12 Feb 2017 15:31:53
Question about european qualification. I've read a few posts saying we need to get 6th place to get in europe next year but unless I'm mistaken 7th will be enough althoughth it will take Man U winning League cup and one of the top six winning the F. A Cup and we would start our season very early. Would everyone be happy to start the season mid July if it meant european qualification?

{Ed002's Note - That is correct.}

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12 Feb 2017 15:58:07
Dont like that europa league, has anyone really taken it seriously? Pl League games are always flat on a sunday. Would rather miss out if am being honest and try and push for top 4 next season . coyb.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, clubs throughout Europe take it very seriously.}

12 Feb 2017 16:05:15
Thought so thanks ed.
Personally if we could bolster the squad I'd be happy to start the season earlier.

12 Feb 2017 16:15:14
Premier league clubs don't though .

{Ed002's Note - Of course they do - Chelsea took it seriously enough to win it. Perhaps it is just the Everton fans who don't take it seriously?}

12 Feb 2017 16:29:06
Am not speaking for every everton fan i just personally think that! . chelsea winning that was nearly 4 years ago don't you think its lost a little something . ?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool got to the final last year, so obviously not.}

12 Feb 2017 16:41:17
You can't tell me the europa league didn't affect there league form they finished 8th.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool did not finish eigth in the league because of the Europa League. They also reached the League Cup final. Chelsea won the Euopa League and got to the FA Cup and League Cup finals and finished third in the league. If you are concerned that Everton are simply not able to sustain playing in Europe they can easily withdraw from the competition by informing UEFA.I am sure whoever is next best placed in the league will be very happy to have European football for their fans. Other recent winners like Atletico Madrid, Porto and Sevilla have maintained a serious interest in the competition whilst continuing to do well at home.}

12 Feb 2017 17:01:08
Its me who thinks the europa league is a distraction and worthless not the board of everton fc.

{Ed002's Note - Then if Everton qualify for Europe you can moan and bleat about it as much as you like.}

12 Feb 2017 17:19:07
Will do, all am saying is we could do without the extra 15 games it takes to win that cup and focus on challening for the top 4 nxt season.

{Ed002's Note - And then do without the 10 games it would take to win the Champions League in order to stay fresh for the season after. An interesting approach.}

12 Feb 2017 17:33:40
I'd be happy with a Europa season. In my opinion, would highten our profile and attract bigger names. Let's be honest. Are we a champions league club right now. No. We need to take things step by step and after 2 11th place finishes, most fans would snap your arm off for a European season of any sorts.

{Ed002's Note - As would the players and the board.}

12 Feb 2017 18:03:25
I live in Cornwall (from the Wirral) and took my son to Lille away by megabus from Bristol. Then we went to watch Young Boys in Switzerland by Easyjet. The 1st game cost me about £100. I enjoyed it so much (the comeraderie not the game) I paid £500 to go to the Young Boys game. don't tell me Europa League is a waste of time. I enjoyed every second of the experiences! So did my lad. I think we had about 10,000 fans at Lille! It was amazing.

12 Feb 2017 18:12:06
Not to mention winning the Europe league gets you into the champions league. If we have ambition we have to want European football to take the next step.

12 Feb 2017 18:50:29
with the resources we have now I cannot see it being a distraction, complete opposite in fact!
And I feel those not looking forward to European games would be an extremely small minority!
Plus if I understand correctly the winner qualifies for the champions league so that's quite an incentive to win the thing!

12 Feb 2017 19:07:06
Didnt say i don't enjoy european games the format for that cup is rubbish .

{Ed002's Note - Keep hoping that Everton don't qualify and then you will be very happy.}

12 Feb 2017 19:12:21
European football next season would make it a little easier to sign our top targets in the summer that's for sure. And let's be honest most people like to see everton playing in it.

12 Feb 2017 19:56:27
I'd like to see Everton win silverware. Punky. Europa league would, vanorana trophy, fa cup. Don't care what it is.

12 Feb 2017 21:15:45
I would quite happily take my seat watching a Europa League qualifier against Romanias 4th best club in July then watch us put a reserve side out in a meaningless friendly against Notts County.

I bet you Mourinho and United go all out to win the Europa due to the fact it gets you Champions League qualifier place and that may be their only route.
We should be thriving for European Football not deriving it.
Lille was a great day out as Degsy said and I drove it and stayed over and took in some sights the next day, I for one want us back in Europe sooner rather than later.

12 Feb 2017 21:24:51
What's the point of wanting to win matches, if you don't want to play in Europe?
I enjoyed my European trips, and wouldn't mind a few more please.

12 Feb 2017 23:04:01
If we want to sign better players then we need to offer them European football. Koeman said as much when he outlined his plans. Plus there's the extra revenues from the games and extra TV rights, Europe is a must for me.

13 Feb 2017 08:19:57
People complaining about European qualification. Mental.

13 Feb 2017 19:03:53
A good completion and European experience, just needs a little tweak and that is not allowing the third worst team in the Champs league group, given a second chance by dropping into the Europa league.

12 Feb 2017 10:31:59
Not directly related to Everton but still affects where we end up in the league. and maybe when we play certain teams. I remember a few weeks ago discussing refereeing decisions for the "top 4" clubs with a few of you guys. Remember what I said about Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsy Whinger being manipulators of referees. by crititicising them when a decision went against them. and being happy to pay the 20 grand fine the FA imposed on them afterwards because it was chickeen feed compared to 3 points in the league. 2 weeks ag Whinger was up in front of the FA for pushing the ref. Yesterday Clattenburg allowed a handball goal for Sanchez. ok he may not have seen that one? But not to send Gibbs off for what was obviously a take out when the Hull forward was clean through. Gibbs was not even looking at the ball! Well that just supported my theory. Clattenburg was grit scared to send him off because he knew Whinger was waiting to lay into him verbally after the game. Until they punish the managers like Ferguson, Whinger, Mourinho with fines that equate to the deed. eg take points off them or fine them say £1,000,000 then this will continue. The score was 1 nil at the time and Hull were on top. but 11 against 11 meant Arsenal held on and scored on the break in the last minute. 3 points. Worth the 20 grand fine or whatever it was he got.

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12 Feb 2017 11:37:56
If a professional ref is making decisions based on what a manager may say to him should not be a referee. I agree to increase the punishment but to say the ref is scared is absolute tosh. We have refs at our local Sunday league who get grief from the players, the managers and the seven fans watching the game. The grief they get is far more intimidating than the moaners in the prem.

12 Feb 2017 12:06:20
I would not put 100% trust any Ref in any sport, we need to go like Rugby, (cameras)

12 Feb 2017 12:21:02
What is the old saying, "where there is money there is corruption".

12 Feb 2017 12:40:31
On the topic of refs Mike Dean had a shocker yesterday. Clayton should have a received a second yellow for a late challenge on Davis and Ramirez should have seen red for his challenge on Baines. Clearly he got into to trouble for handing out too many reds and now is too scared to make any real decision (even the obvious ones)

12 Feb 2017 12:57:21
CToffee you are absolutely right. I don't believe there is corruption as such. I just think that there are those decisions where the ref has to make a choice and he isnot 100% sure. Ref's have to do it all the time. I have refereed kids games beefore now and know from my own experience that the Mum's and Dad's on the sidelines are waiting to give you a hard time, so you make decisions as best you can. but when you know they are an obnoxious lot and you are not 100% sure about something, it is really difficult to decide with a clear mind. Clattenburg should have 100% sent off Gibbs. Dean should have 100% sent off 2. I would bet that if it was the opposition of Arsenal yesterday, they would have all been off.

12 Feb 2017 15:30:29
I think that's exactly it degsy. I must say I don't envy the refs as they're only really spoken about when they get a decision wrong and not when they actually have a good game. That being said, it does seem that some refs are more lenient with certain teams and are much quicker to make a negative call against a lesser team playing against an Arsenal, Utd, City or Chelsea etc.

12 Feb 2017 15:24:43
Guys referees have always made decisions on what club shirt the player happens to be wearing. Clattenberk is all about him, he 'missed' clear hand ball and bottled the sending off. Dean is just a clown. Need to do what they do in rugby, yes it adds a little time on, but at least they get it right.

14 Feb 2017 12:04:12
Of course the system is bent. Have a little read about Mark Halsey earlier this season being asked to turn a blind eye.

Have a look at Gerrard telling Clattenburg to give a red instead of a yellow. As a ball is crossing the line in a merseyside derby and the ref blowing for full time.

TV is the answer maybe but if these two incidents happen in full view of millions I'm not sure what this is going to change.


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