09 Nov 2021 16:42:45
The ref on Saturday had a good game I thought.
The one mistake he made was not letting play go on after Richardson went down prior to giving penalty. In fairness it very rarely happens.
He should have had a drop ball as EFC had possession - i very much doubt that would have led to a goal.
Richarlison faking a head injury after he has done the same to an opposition player was pathetic and we would be calling it out if he wasnt our player

I don't think refs are overpaid - they put up with abuse from players and fans at the game - targeted after the game also - and so few coming through grass routes for same reasons. Players must fake injuries 5-10 times a game so how do they know what's real and what's not

I personally wouldn't give ranaldo, young, Richarlison, Naymar etc a free kick or penalty at all as they dive so much you can never trust they are honest

Simple way to sort it - players stop hounding the ref (Alan was guilty of this on Saturday so we have to look at ourselves)

Players retrospectively given red cards for diving (or via VAR) - not a yellow - straight red anywhere on the pitch

As much as some don't want to accept this - VAR worked well on Saturday - penalty was correctly overturned and Holgate was correctly sent off

Take off the blue tinted glasses - someone at EFC should tell Alan he was wrong and tell Richarlison to pack in his school boy antics

Burnley boss does this and goes off it if his players dive or fake injury

Sorry - can't agree that we were robbed by a ref

For those saying refereeing is better in Europe - firstly it's easier as it is slower and every tackle is a foul in some leagues - so be careful what you wish for

Secondly - there has been scandals in the Italy, Germany and France leagues involving bribery and match fixing in recent years.

1.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 17:17:10
Wouldn't say he had a good game at all, he missed a few tasty tackles in both halves for both teams.
Regarding the penalty, rather than the drop ball given to us, he shouldn't have called for the penalty and let the phase of play continue. Let those in the var room let him know if he's missed something.

2.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 17:25:44
Come in mate ref was awful all game for both teams got most of his calls wrong.

3.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 18:01:21
Sobs the ref was poor on Sunday and almost lost control of the game due to his mistakes. I agree Lloris got a finger on the ball but he also made sure his arm was around Richarlisons leg bringing him to the ground, which should be a pen. Can you explain to me and 99% of football fans why the game was restarted with Lloris being given the ball?! Especially as Richarlison got up and got to the ball with Lloris stranded. Allan was right to berate him as that decision was a farce. You could see on the ref’s face that he was panicking and didn’t know what to do about his mistake. He got the Holgate decision wrong too as he gave a yellow and it was definitely a red.

4.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 18:07:52
I did suggest that’s what he should have done BP at top of my post.
I hope this may make some changes to how the refs do it.

However letting game continue and see if var picks something up sounds like a free for all managed by var - I think changes this season have seen much better refereeing

I don’t recall the tasty challenges you are talking about - it was a passionate game which I like - fans were appealing for everything

Which tackles deserved a yellow / red which were missed?

5.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 18:42:01
The ref was awful, not only the penalty decision but blatant tackles from several Spurs players all going unpunished, we needed a ref of the quality of the one who reffed the WestHam Liverpool match on Sunday.

6.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 18:52:41
Joe - he gave the penalty so how can you blame him that VAR didn’t see it that way.

Every pundit on tv doesn’t think it’s a penalty - only EFC fans think it was - I think Richarlison new it wasn’t as on every other occasion he roles around after a foul

The ref was called over and straight away Alan is giving him stick - at that point all he had done was give a penalty and had been called over (what else can he do)

It was a good game to watch with strong challenges - holgate got a red which shows VAR worked correctly

Honestly I have no idea what you expect - to me other than the phase not being able to carry on - every decision was correct between ref and VAR which is why it was brought in.

7.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 18:54:51
What I don't understand about the penalty was he got the ball however took richarlson out. Holgate got the ball but took hjoberg out. What's the difference?

Genuine question.

{Ed025's Note - fair point ant..

8.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 21:01:05
At various stages he lost control of the game. Numerous occasions he and his linesman had no idea who throw was for and just seemed to guess.

9.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 21:10:46
Ant - players get ‘taken out’ all the time. Challenge from Loris was not out of control and not from behind.
Therefore it’s fine - watch the next game and count how many players end up on the floor after a tackle - you would end up with no tackles allowed or either 3 vs 3

I can however see I’m on my own here so maybe I’ll have to accept I’m in the wrong ?.

10.) 09 Nov 2021
09 Nov 2021 22:06:59
Yea you're absolutely spot on ant. And if the response is that holgates was dangerous. let's instead talk about delphs booking in the context of how great the ref was on Sunday. Timed tackle well, got massive amount more of the ball than lloris but brought player down in follow through. Lloris may have got a snippet on the ball, but richy was still getting to it anyway and got brought down by the lloris follow through. If anyone can walk me through how one can be a foul and yellow card and one can be perfectly fine I'd be grateful! I'm totally ignoring Everton being punished for the referee choosing to blow his whistle when we had the ball, then deciding he was incorrect to do so then giving the ball to Spurs. and just asking for help understanding the actual decision and how the rules for it differ from the Delph tackle.

11.) 10 Nov 2021
10 Nov 2021 01:01:08
You and the ref are both wrong Sobs. If their was any doubt about it being a penalty the ref should have let the play precede with Richarllson in possession and see how it played out. If a goal did not result he then should have looked at VAR and made a decision on awarding a penalty or not. Once he blew his whistle with the ball in the Everton man's possession the play was dead regardless of any opportunity Everton had to score. If Everton did not have the ball after the penalty incident then blowing his whistle would have been the correct thing to do. Then after he reverses the decision he gives the ball to the Spurs goalkeeper which evidently. is what the rules states, but the error was in blowing the whistle in the first place.

12.) 10 Nov 2021
10 Nov 2021 09:47:39
I wasn't saying there were tackles that should have warranted cards, sobs, just that he let a few tasty ones go throughout the game for both teams. He wasn't in total control at times so not sure how you come to the conclusion that he had a good game.

13.) 10 Nov 2021
10 Nov 2021 14:39:04
Davies 2 challenges on Townsend both late and stopped player going through on goal, Lloris challenge on Richarlison, Holgate, Skipsea body check on Townsend and Davies taking Richarlison out when through on loose ball, that's just the Everton decisions that the Ref got wrong. Refereeing in the Premier League is a disgrace and reason young referees don't make it is the hoops the FA make them jump through compared to other sports, 90% of Cricket umpires, and rugby referees are former players and compare their quality to football.

14.) 10 Nov 2021
10 Nov 2021 18:36:32
Blue Mike - I’ve wrote on here 5 times he should have let play go on. Every VAR penalty overturned this season will also come to same conclusion - refs will have to learn this - American football have a ‘flag on the play’ where refs think something may have happened but let it continue - however the flag dictates that incident needs looking at - maybe that’s a good idea in football

Referees are not coming through because they are both verbally and physically assaulted Blueboy - read about it

Ref wasn’t brilitant but had a decent game - together with VAR every decision was right (other than Everton not getting a drop ball)

We drew cause we were toothless up front - nowt to do with ref

We have been shouting for us to sow passion - we did. Spurs matched it for new manager - let’s not the dogs of war winge over tough tackles please

What is this shambles!

15.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 03:10:04
Sobsl, with all due respect you started off by saying the ref had a good game which is not what I see. How can he have had a good game when the most important decision he made, one which probably changed the result, was wrong.

16.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 17:46:57
Don’t agree - he said it was a penalty which is what I think you are referring to.
VAR obviously thought it was wrong - as do most fans outside this forum so I think it was right to overturn it although it was close

Bring frustrated it wasn’t a penalty doesn’t mean he had a bad game. I don’t recall any refs this season letting play continue and then calling a pen but I agree this maybe should be the way forward

Referee working with VAR got the decisions right - if you think it was a penalty then you will disagree - however I don’t think it was and I think it was clear Lloris touched the ball.

17.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 19:51:35
The ref had a bad game, sobs, there's no hiding that fact. I didn't think it was a pen but still think he was awful.