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19 May 2016 12:14:38
Has any1 heard anything on moyes next job? Would any1 take him back?

1.) 19 May 2016 13:29:36
No he's a water closet

{Ed025's Note - of course i had to change it.. :)

2.) 19 May 2016 13:40:04
No probs ed, just starting to get a bit frustrated with people mentioning moyes. Yes he did great taking us from where we were when he took over but we should be aiming higher than that now. We're not that club anymore. Not to mention his attitude towards us after he left. No in my opinion it would be a step backwards.

{Ed025's Note - im with you all the way mate..

3.) 19 May 2016 14:14:25
Deano - deep breath - exhale slowly, just let it go mate, in the past and staying there.

4.) 19 May 2016 14:52:01
Not going to mention the manager that is mentioned in this thread but will mention something else. 'we should be aiming higher'.

That comment intrigue's me and what people think of a manager that won something and didn't win something. My number one preference is Koeman above anyone. Some people write him off straight away as he didn't win something or 'we should aim higher'.

AergeleBlue I'm not getting at you or saying you wouldn't except Koeman but people get fixated on wether managers win something or not. Look at what Allderdyce (spelling) done at Sunderland. Absolutely fantastic job what did he win. Look at what Koeman done at Southampton. Unbelievable under the circumstances. As the season went on the better they got. a lot of that was down to Koeman imho.

He more than likely will move to Arsenal the summer of next year. As he and Wenger are out of contract then. He suits Arsenal down to the ground. Just because a manager has won something doesn't automatically mean he is a fantastic manager. The same as a manager who has won nothing is not a bad manager.

I mentioned Koeman as someone who didn't win something. Benitez is a manager who win CL what 3 times but I'm sorry I don't rate him. Don't think he's bad but would rather see plenty of other managers come before him. Not because of what he said about Everton just don't rate him really. Hard to pinpoint how he won things with the other half but he done desperate in Italy and other areas around Europe. I have been surprised with how well he done at Newcastle but still no thank you.

A manager who knows what he's about and has a solid defensive system is a common theme with teams that win. Similar to Athletico Madrid. That's my opinion. Won't get caught up in whether a manager wins something or not. Look at Spurs. Imho will be a very strong contender to win some sort of trophy next season if CL doesn't interrupt them too much. What has there manager won?

5.) 19 May 2016 15:15:18
I'd be delighted with Koeman, he is going places.
In my humble opinion he has the makings of the next great Manager.
He's never happy, even when his team win, always looking for improvement.

6.) 19 May 2016 15:26:36
Again Frank got it the first time mate😃.

7.) 19 May 2016 15:58:39
Good post NB, enjoyed that.

8.) 19 May 2016 16:19:22
Just want to dispel a bit of a myth about the Allardyce's and Pulis's of the world. They do a great job at coming into a club and making an impact when a team is in trouble. They don't have the same impact when they are safe or over the full course of a season.

He's managed 31 games at Sunderland this season and has a 29% (13 wins) win percentage. At West Ham he won one more game than he lost and at all of his most recent jobs he always lost more than he won.

As for a Pulis I can't imagine anyone would want to go see the most unattractive football ever witnessed. Those poor WBA fans.

Moyes was similar in going for the draw instead of the win and that was, is and will be his downfall in being a top class manager. It was the reason he never won 1 away game at the top sides.

Koeman and to be honest foreign managers don't have this same fear when managing. Now I'm not saying UK managers are rubbish and in fact some of the younger managers don't have the same fear and instead relish these games but Managers like Moyes, Allardyce and Pulis think too much on the reputation of clubs rather than just playing the 11 men in-front of them and believing they are equal.

Moyes is already talking about the difficult job the next Everton manager will have. That's who Moyes is and what he makes us feel about our club. He makes it sound like a second rate club and to lower expectations.

I want a manager that changes the mentality of the club, players and fans. I want someone to make us believe we are equal and can challenge again.

{Ed025's Note - i enjoyed that john, and agree with all of it..

9.) 19 May 2016 17:18:07
I'm sorry but this Koeman love in is ridiculous. "Defensively sound" "solid this" "proven that" he had plenty of jobs prior to Southampton and none of them are great reading.
We absolutely battered them in their own ground last season, us, the pile of poop that was Everton smashed them.
Atkins, Poc, Koeman, Southampton have remained very solid and top 8 personally I'd be looking at their scouts rather than their managers.
Don't know why but have a good gut feeling about De Boer but not convinced in terms of the job he has done.
We all say this one has won f all, this one hasn't done this etc. Our club needs a facelift from the bottom up. I don't get the Eddie Howe hate fest, he took them from liquidation to PL. Leicester were built by Pearson. Before people scream we need to aim higher, I agree if it fits, Jose would be class but unrealistic, however 100% needs to be at minimum offered the job.
Point is Southampton have previous of developing young players and buying very well prior to Koeman so let's not get obsessed with him, at other clubs he has really done not a lot.
Personally I think Howe will be a big big manager one day just not sure with who. Nobody fancied Ranneri but his cv is remarkably similar to Pellegrini so maybe that would work.
I hope key players are consulted as what is evident from this season is that player backing is vital.
Got a feeling Pep will flop, Leicester will drop, Klopp will pop (I hear not much cash will be available to him) which again opens up the top 6 a bit. I think the likes of Baines and Jags should be consulted and a guy who can fit in is more important than a guy who can attract over expensive overrated players. The Sevilla guy is a prime example. Happy to sell those that want bigger things, keeps the coke, banega, rami, gamerio that want to stay.
Rambling now but in conclusion if it's Koeman, great let's get behind him, if it's speedo mike likewise. Those with amazing cvs fail and those with average ones can excel I just hope we get it right.

10.) 19 May 2016 18:21:47
Great post that svenny.

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