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16 May 2024 10:56:10
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14 May 2024 16:50:55
WTF is wrong with Moshiri and/ or who is pulling his strings. According to Masters Moshiri has indicated he wants to continue talks with 777. Something isn't right about all of this.

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14 May 2024 19:31:17
Yeah it stinks, something is seriously not right about this.

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14 May 2024 19:51:38
May 31 st new date for 777 takeover according to reports.

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14 May 2024 19:52:39
Or to step away from the sensationalism. He has told them they have a little over 2 weeks to prove they can get it done or he ends their exclusivity. It really is the funny season 😂.

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14 May 2024 20:19:22
Someone's being paid off, he has extended the deadline again till the end of the month I think this maybe the third time the deadlines been extended. What is the point in setting a deadline in the first place.

{Ed025's Note - its all a bit underhand for my liking Shakey..

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14 May 2024 21:17:26
FBS yes mate just repeating what Masters reportedly told Parliament.

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14 May 2024 21:41:31
Moshiri has probably been promised a price from 777 that they can’t pay and no one else will match. He is likely wanting to recoup as much money as he can - I doubt he cares much for whoever takes over. The highest bidder wins.

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14 May 2024 22:32:50
Despite all his so called intentions, he only ever saw us a commodity he could buy and sell at a profit. I hope he ends up out of pocket big style.

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14 May 2024 23:41:30
"FM was expected to terminate the deal but it's now clear that hasn't happened as he is contractually committed to the end of this month before he can officially terminate the exclusivity period agreement with 777. The likely hood of 777 rescuing the deal are remote due to various legal problems that have arisen recently". Fear not this is just part of the process. Nothing to see here.

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15 May 2024 00:11:43
From what is being reported nothing has been extended with 777 as allegedly 31st May was always the deadline.

Sounds like the reporting regarding the extension could be PR spin from 777.

With all the negative stories around 777 no one in their right mind would extend the deal so I’m happy to believe it’s just clickbait and pr spin from 777.

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15 May 2024 03:16:57
I just hope that Moshiri and the other investors are working right now to have a plan in place for this, because we cannot have another bad window.

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15 May 2024 08:54:11
I've read the same, there is a time line when it can be cancelled and the end of the month it should be, hopefully ended and we can move on, my probelm is who is going to take us on and why would they with everything that's going on, how much dept we are in, what incentives would they have aparts from ripping us apart and selling us off piece by piece and then how does that help us, nobody in the right mind is buying us as we are, our owner needs to lower the price, give someone a chance to come in and make us a better club, as we are right now I just can't see how that can happen, I mean will one new stadium make that much money, if it can why haven't spurs or west ham been doing that with there new stadiums.

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15 May 2024 09:28:20
It was always the 31st May. We are on a runaway train, the tunnel is fast approaching and who knows what’s on the other side?

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15 May 2024 12:44:30
Reading between the lines and the constant sensationalist reporting surrounding our club, this is simply a deadline for 777 to prove they have the cash. This seems doubtful. The more promising reference in the reports is that other parties are lined up to step in. Let's hope this is true.

{Ed002's Note - The relevance of the date is nothing to do with having to complete the takeover - it is a date by which the debt to MSP must be paid else they will take control of the assets - the new stadium. 777 want two of the MSP investors to join their bid and ease some of the debt owed to MSP. They will trade shares in the club, the stadium and will let them have the two seats on the board promised to MSP. Rights and Media Funding blocked the prior attempt for MSP investment as the debt Everton owe to them is secured against other assets the club has (e.g. Goodison Park). 777 Partners have screwed Standard Liege and that should be enough for the Premier League, FA and the Financial Conduct Authority to reject them as owners. The problem Moshiri has is the size of the debts owed to 777 Partners now, not being able to pay the debts to MSP & Rights and Media Funding and where to get the money to complete the stadium. The other concern he has is the time it would take a new bidder to gain agreement from the PL, FA and FCA - hence wanting to push on with 777 Partners. The answer will perhaps be to agree with those owed money to restructure all of the debt in exchange for interest payments whilst the debts are cleared. This would likely involve selling the new stadium and renting it back.}

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15 May 2024 17:15:16
MSP would be a good call. Good post from ED002, well explained. I know it is probably the great unknown (never going to know) but can all Moshiris incompetence really be put down to his 'advisor (s) ', did a certain other individual really clear the scene after 2022.

{Ed002's Note - His neighbour in Monaco certainly advised on transfers. But those running the club on a day-by-day basis, rather than Moshiri, should have been understanding how serious the situation was. Moshiri looked for a quick sale or investment to head off a personal issue.}

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15 May 2024 18:08:23
Cheers Ed, doesn’t seem like any of this will be sorted quickly.

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15 May 2024 18:58:14
Only Everton can build a new stadium and not end up owning it! What is the point then as we get none of the financial benefits might as well stay in the old lady and let the new stadium owners do what they want with it as the rent will be another cost we don’t need when we already own a stadium with no cost rental cost associated! Least then we get to keep all Matchday income!

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15 May 2024 19:35:00
It is dropping to bits the cost of maintenance is prohibitive. The ground and owned surrounds will either be sold or assets seized by creditors (at a guess) .

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15 May 2024 23:39:33
Shouldn't have rebuffed the councils offer of funding for the build.

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16 May 2024 07:16:23
In hindsight it could have led to bigger problems FBS, given the Governments intervention in yet another Councils inability to deliver.

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12 May 2024 16:29:38
Been told we are wanting jack butland from rangers as pickers is wanted by Chelsea . why don't Chelsea get butland n leave pickers were he is cheating Chelsea need to be punished.

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12 May 2024 21:58:34
I think it's just clickbait nonsense. We all love Pickford of course, and yes he'd be great for Chelsea if he was there. But they have a very good keeper in Dorde Petrovic, only 24 so plenty of time to substantially improve. Robert Sanchez as a fantastic backup option, who is himself only 26. It makes no sense at all to ditch these 2 GKs for a 30 year old.

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13 May 2024 10:35:00
Not just any 30 year old though is it it's England's number 1.

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13 May 2024 15:26:49
If it was true, it would just be more evidence of a lack of planning and bad recruitment. He was available for free last season.

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10 May 2024 20:30:17
Evening Eds. I read somewhere that there had been discussions about creating a wages cap in the Prem. Do you think this will ever happen or is it all tosh?

{Ed002's Note - It is happening.}

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10 May 2024 20:37:16
Isn't that the very thing Jimmy railed against and to a for Bosman.

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10 May 2024 23:12:56
Get ready for huge win bonuses.

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10 May 2024 20:50:00
How do you think it will work Ed? I can’t see the likes of City not having a bench of players earning more than the whole of our first team….

{Ed002's Note - Pl are looking to align with the UEFA approach limiting clubs to spending 70% of their revenue on squad costs - transfers, wages and agents' fees - but initially limiting club not playing in Europe to spending 85% of their revenue on squad costs.}

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11 May 2024 11:59:23
That wouldn't stand up to a Bosman style legal challenge.

{Ed001's Note - yes it would. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. There is nothing in that blocking a player from working like the old transfer system did. Why make a statement like that, when it is clear you know less than zero about it?}

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11 May 2024 13:33:52
Bosman didn't/ doesn't work like that TL. I would refer it more to dear old Jimmy Hill, lauded for his efforts but what a can of worms that opened. My beef has always been and is with agents and the seeming stranglehold they have on the professional game. Mind you at least the Prem stayed/ stays away from 3rd Party. I would concentrate your worries more on the utter devastation Moshiris misguided trust
and naivety has wrought on our historical Club.

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11 May 2024 16:44:23
My works has a car share scheme and a cycle to work scheme were we get bonuses. could they implement a scoring goal clean sheet assists etc sort of scheme to the players contracts ie just say DCL was on £70 grand a week but got £10 grand a goal and same for defender's for clean sheets and stuff like that or could that not happen? Least they might try more not that they don't earn fortune's as it is and should try anyway 🤷.

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11 May 2024 17:07:20
Well bonus count as spend don't they. So it would count towards the 85% or 70% figure.

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11 May 2024 22:27:37
Not a clue just thought the clubs with money would do it to try and get round the pay cap somehow 🤔 l.

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11 May 2024 23:11:23
The PFA are considering their position over this as it may create a hard cap on player wages. Similar was proposed and scrapped by the EFL. You also have a few clubs voting against the system, one being Man City who the PL are scared off. Intentionally or inadvertently you can't cap a players salary earning power.

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12 May 2024 13:54:23
Thanks for the reply Ed. I assume the reason for the changes is to ensure clubs are more sustainable.

Do you think doing this will just make the top 6 stronger and move further away towards the Euro super league?

{Ed002's Note - It is not a cap on pay but aligning with UEFA to ensure clubs spend within their means. It means clubs will look to significant increases in sponsorship - with one pal club already negotiating deals for next summer which will bring a potentially huge increase for them.}

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10 May 2024 20:29:30
With 777 allegedly calling in restructuring experts, is this the start of possible asset stripping?

{Ed002's Note - If that is the case Everton need to step away immediately. There is a fix, but it will be hard work.}

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10 May 2024 20:39:33
How can that happen ED (the step away) ! I agree with you by the way.

{Ed002's Note - The restructuring is not of Everton.}

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10 May 2024 20:39:36
Thanks for that ed. I wish you could influence Mr Morshiri.

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09 May 2024 15:23:02
Now reports saying the are at least four new lots of iUS investors plus a Quatar one good times ahead, just have some faith this will turn out alright for us.

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09 May 2024 16:31:51
Sounds more like Vultures circling than good times ahead, but as always GB I admire your eternal optimism and wish I saw the world through your eyes😂.

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09 May 2024 16:40:48
So many posters on here kept saying we were going down but we didn’t Sean managed with three games in hand and a good haul of points, so it not all bad news someone will come in and take us over and we begin again buddy, no point being negative all the time this is Everton after all.

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10 May 2024 00:39:19
Hope that you are correct GB. My biggest fear is that the stadium will not belong to the club and any revenues from other events at the stadium will benefit others.
We need new owners who want the club to get back to being among the elite, who get financially rewarded because the club is doing well, not using it as a cash-cow.
No doubt the players and Sean have done well to keep us in the premiership regardless of the eight point deduction but in the future I want us to be better run financially and also more attractive to watch. For us to succeed in the future we have to attract young supporters and that will only be possible if they see us playing exciting and attractive football. Getting rid of the over 30 brigade and bringing on young talent is the way forward and I am not sure your mate Sean is the right man for that task.

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10 May 2024 14:24:46
He isn't. He does not trust young players.

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10 May 2024 14:42:15
I think he will BlueMike, really good article on Thewll and Sean and what will happen this summer, yes there will be sales and there has to be, the Club is the main thing here, obviously there will not be loads of cash but there will be some, it’s going to be a case of the loan market and scowering the lower leagues, at the end of the day we have Sean to thank for keeping us up and a big thanks goes to him, hopefully 777 will fall through and different investors can be found, it not all doom nd gloom mate imagine if we had gone down, but we didn’t so can do something about it.

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10 May 2024 15:09:12
Big thanks to Dyche! Try thanking the fans who turned up home and away geeing up the players. Thank the players who put the effort in to get us over the line. Thank three other clubs for being worse than us. Thank Dyche when he fekks off.

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10 May 2024 15:38:10
Kept us up mate and for that I happy, was never going to be pretty now we move on to the next chapter, seems a couple on here would have been happy to go down but play nice footy gmmmm.

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10 May 2024 19:49:37
Right - I give up. I’m joining GB and casting aside my doubts and negativity. Fed up of all this negativity I keep reading and feeling…

Everything is going to be alright! We have been through all this negativity before and we have been fine. We found one billionaire out of the blue and I’m sure we will find another. Why bother being downbeat? I’m going to stick d ST one money on 3-0 to us tomorrow. COYB.

{Ed025's Note - love it BR..

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10 May 2024 20:31:19
If you can’t beat them, join them Ed. There’s a lot worse things in life.

{Ed025's Note - i could not agree more BR..

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09 May 2024 15:09:42
According to the bobble we have offered Seamus a 1 year extension.

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09 May 2024 09:27:51
Reports in the Telegrapth that MSP are back in to buy Everton with FM getting cold feet with 777. if true surely good news?

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09 May 2024 10:40:26
Anyone but 777 would be good news IMO.

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09 May 2024 13:06:45
Ed's, do you know much about MSP? Would they be "decent" owners or do they come with their problems as well. I only ask as you were so vocal from the start to avoid 777 like the plague. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I think that MSP would be fine owners, or at least investors. Originally they only wanted 25%. There is a chance that they could take shares in the stadium but the problem previously was the debt owed to Rights and Media Funding Limited (again over £200M) who blocked the move as they wanted the protection to be allowed to sell the stadium to a third party if the debt was not serviced. They would need persuading if MSP are back involved. And theu there is another £200M owed to 777 Partners now.}

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09 May 2024 18:20:40
Thank you for the insight Ed.

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07 May 2024 19:01:40
Hi eds is there any truth in the rumour that spurs are interested in onana? I was only asking because it might help us sort out the dele Ali problem. Also if chelsea are really interested in pickford I would take a sensible offer because it would free up his big wages and I think that in Virginia we have a good enough replacement. I'm resigned to us losing our better players but we will have to be clever using free transfers and hopefully not wasting our 2 loans this time. I just hope that thelwell has a plan this transfer window.

{Ed002's Note - Spurs see Onana as an option to Hjulmand and others. It is unrelated to the Dele Alli situation. Chelsea are not looking to Pickford.}

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08 May 2024 12:24:11
Andy, what has given you the idea that Virginia is a good enough replacement for Pickford?

I am not digging the lad out as I simply haven't seen enough of him to suggest that he can step into Pickfords shoes. After all, he has played 1 PL game, 2 Championship games at Reading, 1 Primeira game at Lisbon and 17 Eredivisie games for Cambuur.

I would rather us go and pick up a more experienced keeper who is at a big club but is not getting enough minutes like Ortega at City. I think he went to them for a free and would be a drop from Pickfords wages, as he is on around 85k a week,

Solid all round keeper. Good shot stopper, positioning is great, angles are solid, good with his feet, passing. Would be a decent replacement but not sure whether he would want to get 30+ PL games a season at us or bask in the easy sun of Man City.

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08 May 2024 19:57:53
I have watched him and of course he is plenty good enough (my opinion). Nobody is irreplaceable.

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06 May 2024 18:42:36
Ed’s just read were interested in a German U21 player Merlin Rohl as a possible replacement for Onana any strength in this one and your opinion on Rohl would also be appreciated thank you.

{Ed002's Note - Merlin Rohl (CM) Scouted by Everton and Crystal Palace according to his agent.}

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07 May 2024 02:53:06
I have to admit that is a name worthy of my son’s FIFA ‘24 team.

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07 May 2024 19:11:19
Is there another central midfielder called Rock?

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06 May 2024 08:16:10
Rumours that Kevin Malone has flown to the UK to try and sort a deal to buy us. this surely has to be better than 777 getting control.

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06 May 2024 08:30:34
Looks like he will fit the bill. Poor track record and signs players on high wages. Oh dear here we could go again lol.

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06 May 2024 10:14:32
Pure speculation all of this none of us know what 777,Malone or any other potential buyers are likewe can only go by what the rags tell us, we all thought Moshiri was our Saviour and so did the press, look where that got us.

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06 May 2024 13:50:04
I just read that a reliable source has said he's heard nothing about this new investor so no point worrying about weather there suitable or not.

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06 May 2024 15:00:02
Apparently this New takeover with Malone if it happens will carry with it very high interest rates, sounds very scary to me.

{Ed025's Note - im just sitting back and letting it play out GB, there is nothing we can do to influence things so what will be will be mate, we are in a big heap of trouble and we just have to hope that the players in this money go round come up with something that will benefit the club...but im not holding my breath..

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06 May 2024 15:25:38
Maybe it's a ploy to jerk 777 to close out the deal. I would prefer they get out of the deal.

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06 May 2024 15:32:53
After all we have gone through with point deductions appeals etc etc we get out of that but we are still in deep doo doo, it never bloney stops mate.

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06 May 2024 16:06:28
I've just red a article stating wealthey Arab's will make there interest known this week.

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06 May 2024 17:36:36
Hope they have plenty of camels and barrels of oil.

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05 May 2024 20:13:32
I understand that financial circumstances may compell the club to sell Branthwaight, don't like it but that may be no option, but, please, please, please do not bring in Harry Maguire as the make weight, he is worse than Mikel Keane, by a county mile, either one would, on merit, struggle to get into a Sunday morning pub team .

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06 May 2024 08:15:37
Manure can't afford Braithwaite plus Maguires on half a million a week there fans hate him.

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06 May 2024 10:58:47
We can't do swap deals we need the money. So if we are going to sell Branthwaite then it has to be for the best possible price we can achieve.

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