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30 Nov 2017 11:56:01
Find it hard to take some posters snide comments on here although I understand it's a banter site.
Firstly it appears Big Sam is our new permanent manager, that if it true is done!
Hopefully he's the right man to turn our season, however it won't happen overnight.
Let's hope in January Walsh does what he's paid to do and brings some quality fresh talent into the squad!

We had little options available and they've turned to a specialist in reversing our current position.
He has spoken respectfully of the club and it's history and supporters I for one will be right behind him as he is our hope, I understand many peoples resentment and he like many has made a mistake but we all deserve a second chance, it was very costly for him!

We need a win tonight to lift everyone at this great club!
COYB!

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30 Nov 2017 12:20:50
Good shout mate, we have to live and let live, just get so fed up with some of these snide posts on here mate same as you, i will get behind whoever wants to help our Great Club, end of.

01 Dec 2017 18:54:32
In my opinion he no more made a mistake than many of us would. If someone approached me while under contract it does not necessarily mean I would not listen to them as indeed he did. Also I would point out I could perhaps be interested in the future but that I and you would have to discuss with my present employers again which is exactly what Sam did and said. It is only the hysteria perpetuated by the media in this Country that fans the fire.

30 Nov 2017 11:55:54
Big Sam on a 2.5yr deal worth £12m according to some rags. If it works out great, I will be over the moon, but if things don't improve quickly I hope FM is prepared to lose a huge wedge in compo to get rid of him. 🤞🤞.

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30 Nov 2017 17:43:41
And the press get it wrong again.

18 month deal.

30 Nov 2017 20:22:43
It's eighteen months not two and a half years.

30 Nov 2017 11:23:00
Still mulling over last nights game and to be honest if it'd been an old fashioned pay on the turnstile game I probably wouldn't have gone given recent performances and the fact it was a bitterly cold early winter's evening.
However lesson learned and I'm now glad I did go.
While it wasn't the most polished performance from the players they did show a lot more character than they have all season and played with a lot more passion and desire. Was it to give Unsworth a worthy send off or was it because the new manager was watching I just don't know, although I'd like to think it was a bit of both.
I'm not going to single out any individual players other than to say that they all looked more of a team than they have all season, even the two number 10's on the same pitch seemed to work well for a change with both looking more confident.
For me though, the one thing that stood out was the reaction of each player who got subbed, each of them gave Unsworth a big man hug as they went off, none of this quick handshake or pat on the back, hugs with real emotion which was again shown at the final whistle by all of the players and even Moyes.
It was plain to see just how much the players think of him and also the fans when he got a standing ovation.
I think everyone will agree Unsworth wasn't ready for the job full time but he will have learned a hell of a lot and if he takes that knowledge and experience back to the under 23's they'll be an amazing prospect.
Credit where it's due to Unsworth, he never once shirked or ducked under the pressure he must have been under and always spoke positively and honestly about everything and everyone.
I just hope that he now uses that experience to develop himself and would one day like to see him back in the hot seat on a permanent basis.
Thanks Rhino, you gave it your all under horrible circumstances and came out the other side with your pride intact.

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30 Nov 2017 11:41:29
Good post that mate. Many on here are calling for the heads of ex-Evertonians on the coaching staff. Watching Unsworth's and Ferguson's goal celebrations showed what they feel about the club. Hopefully they will still be at the club when the likes of Sammy Lee depart.

30 Nov 2017 11:46:27
Couldnt agree more mate. A gentleman and a proper Evertonian.

30 Nov 2017 12:34:04
Spot on rhapsody.

30 Nov 2017 13:27:12
I’m an evertonian through and through, jump around like a loon when we score, I even believe I feel more for the club than them.
So does this qualify me for a coaching job?
People are saying we need the clear out cause maybe that contributes to the problem, managers are being told to take coaches on there staff, these coaches may well have the clubs interest at heart but it certainly don’t mean that they are the best option at what they do.
Some ambassador roles, ok. U23 Unsy doing well so ok. Does not mean the first team has to have ex players involved. Managers should chose theee own back room staff and if that means moving ex players on then do be it, in more interested in the club now than players of the past. Let the past be the past.

29 Nov 2017 18:01:18
Eurosport reckon its done deal. No official announcement yet but fairly certain to happen. Hope we stick a get out clause in for end of season.

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30 Nov 2017 02:44:53
geoffjohno - managers like Martinez, Koeman, etc., must love us - even if they fail, they get a hefty payoff, so Allardyce is in a win-win situation financially speaking whether he’s here for just this season or another one or two.

29 Nov 2017 16:23:34
Blimey what a lot of fickle posters we have on here, this is probably going to be one of Evertons biggest years ever, we have an owner who has put his money into the Club invested heavily and we are going to get a new Stadium, we will be staying in the Premiership thanks to Big Sam, and I say well done to Everton for getting him for us, as I said in one of the posts below this is a total no brainer, we have in place a manager who knows this league inside out having been there and done it, but now he will get sufficient funds in the January transfer window something he not had much of in the past and for once in his life he will have a wealthy owner behind him, may I add something else we will have a very vocal guy on the touchline who will give it his all, not like Koeman so let's all settle down and give the big fella a rousing support in his first game tonight, and c'mon it could have been far worse we could have been landed with someone with no experience in this league.

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29 Nov 2017 16:28:52
Spot on Guernsey, great post.

29 Nov 2017 16:45:40
Fully agree GB mate, good post. ( I mean great post )

29 Nov 2017 16:48:27
Just knew we cannot please everyone all of the time.

29 Nov 2017 16:33:31
What money? Players sales and tv money kidda.
Whats the net spend?
Find that out first before singing his praises.

29 Nov 2017 17:35:39
Why worry about the Finances, we have spent more in the recent windows than historically, we are financially more sound and have more revenue coming in. In previous years the prize money was used more for operating costs
What we need to think about now is what is happening on the field and improving the results, and right now i would take results and points over pretty football if i had to choose.
Am i happy with Sam, not especially, but 18 months isn't too bad if we survive and move up the table, 10th last year earned about £120 million if we push up there then i'll be happy, we can then reassess next summer when Sam walks away.

29 Nov 2017 17:30:30
Don't forget the £80 million interest free loan to clear our debts Pauly. To me that's a lot of money.

29 Nov 2017 18:09:48
Too true Grumpy.

29 Nov 2017 18:34:48
Don't worry folks as I said at the beginning some VERY FICKLE FOLK, some will always gripe, i think they would moan even if we won something under Big Sam, happy days for me, not my 1st bet but I will back him all the way.

29 Nov 2017 18:37:47
So you guys are happy with FM using Jim White as his mouth piece rather than official club channels? This whole process has made as look so amateurish it’s laughable.

29 Nov 2017 18:51:30
Get off its on the Official Everton site, why not use White and his big mouth, not so long ago posters were always moaning we were never mentioned, can't win eh, at least everybody knows now lol.

29 Nov 2017 19:37:56
It was out with White as an official statement from FM a few hours before it was officially announced by the club. That’s just a joke. The guy just goes rogue.

29 Nov 2017 21:04:53
Not that it really matters but when I was watching Sky earlier this afternoon they first stated it was released on the Everton twitter account and that’s where they heard it first.

29 Nov 2017 21:51:54
Sour grapes mate.

29 Nov 2017 22:47:19
Sour about what? He announced it on his twitter feed like an hour before it was announced by the club. That’s a fact. I’m not saying FM is a bad guy I just think it makes the club look bad and not like everyone is on the same page when he just decides to do his own thing.

30 Nov 2017 00:10:19
why is it always about money spent?
would we be in a position of spending £100 million plus
be in early stages of getting a new state of art stadium
raising our profile across europe
building for the future

the guy has done more for EVERTON FC in 12 months, than BK et al done for 10 yrs

GIVE HIM A FRIGGING CHANCE
is it your bank he is taking money from? . No

I BELIEVE IN HIM, HE WILL TAKE US FAR MORE FORWARD THAN EVER BEFORE.

30 Nov 2017 00:20:09
Well if true what does it really matter? So the guy was excited wanted to get it out to people be it via the club twitter or other media sources!
Some moan with little info and late updates and then when it is put out there people still moan!
On to other things. amazing result tonight, don’t see what all the panic was about 🤷🏻‍♂️.

29 Nov 2017 14:34:06
Big Sam at Finch Farm this afty, not loosing anytime the big fella, bring it on.

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29 Nov 2017 14:38:47
Just seen it myself mate. DU going back to under 23's as manager and big Dunc keeping his coaching role.

29 Nov 2017 15:14:32
That will do for me mate, something needed to be done, at the end of the day he's been there and done that, let's all get behind him, starting with tonight.

29 Nov 2017 15:27:30
Let's see what happens now he in. Not who I'd of gone for but he's here now. We can all stop moaning bout Schneiderlin now, because the balls probably going to be hoofed over his head.

29 Nov 2017 15:55:55
DU will be in charge for tonights game.

29 Nov 2017 16:31:42
Would rather Dunc get dropped to the u23s. Love him but as someone has said before we need this clear out of ex players given certain roles in the club.

29 Nov 2017 12:55:54
Looks like a one and a half year contract. That's according to Jim White who has had it from Moshiri apparently. Now it's all done let's get behind the team!

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29 Nov 2017 13:45:39
And the manager.

29 Nov 2017 14:47:05
Well said, let's hope everyone gets the ground bouncing tonight and show some of our new players what the atmosphere can be like at our place.

29 Nov 2017 15:12:59
Good post Bobslad fully agree.

28 Nov 2017 22:42:23
I'm really interested in this Ed02 related suggestion of Hoddle for manager and think he would have been a tremendous acquisition at the club. As has been said, It really is baffling as to why he's disappeared from club job shortlists.
I wonder if it went t*ts up for him when he was England boss and had that debacle with mystics improving performance or whatever it was along those lines. He got so much ridicule that perhaps clubs don't want that controversy. I personally believe he was just trying something new, mental improvement converting to performance gains, but it just spun out of control.
Anyways, he was a top drawer manager and no doubt could inject something fresh into the club which we desperately need. I hope we get to see him back in a top job one day soon!
As for Allardyce or Fonseca, I'd go for the latter all day long but do share most peoples concerns of him adapting quickly enough to help us. Maybe we would be safer with the proven option for the short term health of the club.

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29 Nov 2017 07:41:22
Hoddle has been out of the management game for too long now in my opinion. We don't have time for experiments at present. We have done that with Unsworth and look where we are. I would have loved it to have worked out for Davey but the mess and unbalanced side that Koeman has left behind has made it practically impossible for a good, young and inexperienced manager to get anything from the position. Although there are a lot that really don't want Sam he is the best option we have to stabalise and move us away from the bottom.

29 Nov 2017 16:03:34
The reason he fell off the radar was for comments relating to the disabled. Something along the lines of his opinion was that we are all reincarnated once we die and that those who are disabled are paying the price of wrong doing in a previous life.

28 Nov 2017 18:14:53
Hey Ed 025,reports now saying Shaktar won't let Fonesca go, anything Everton can do about it, or will have to settle with Big Sam, urrrrrrmmmmm.

{Ed025's Note - they will be after some dosh GB..

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28 Nov 2017 20:03:38
If he’s been interviewed as per the reports then they must’ve given permission or it would be tapping up. So if they are saying they won’t let him go it will likely be a negotiation ploy for a large amount of compensation.

{Ed025's Note - i agree ST..

28 Nov 2017 20:44:25
nice one mate.

28 Nov 2017 14:16:23
now we all know twitter is nothing to go by, but a lot of portugese and Italian journos now claiming fonseca (pardon spelling) in pole position to land the job, gamble blues? I mean if this goes balls up we really are in trouble if he can't adapt to management over here.

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28 Nov 2017 15:12:53
that's the million dollar question do we gamble or play safe I would play safe which kills me to say as I hate that bung taking joke of a man.

{Ed025's Note - hate is a strong word BLUEY, but i must admit that i dislike him intensely mate..

28 Nov 2017 15:14:36
Tbh i would rather have Sam, we need a proven manager in this situation, as u say, Fonseca is a total gamble.

28 Nov 2017 16:11:10
I disagree the gamble would be allardyce he leaves clubs in tatters.
Fonseca is young and hungry the way moyes and Howard once were.

{Ed025's Note - i have to admit that i know very little about fonseca scoundrel, but for me if allardyce wants a longer term appointment and is holding us to ransom then i would go for fonseca all day mate..

28 Nov 2017 16:24:14
Fonseca all day long for me - we've got time for one last roll of the dice. Alladyce will still be around in March if it all goes wrong! I'd rather have Fonseca's draw bringing players in in January than Big Sham.

28 Nov 2017 16:24:27
I'd be very happy with this as I put a bet on at 20/ 1 on fonseca. I'll be able to buy myself that new pair of shoes.

{Ed025's Note - and if sam gets it i will be able to buy myself a gallon of petrol and a box of matches gibbo.. :)

28 Nov 2017 17:58:43
I am still baffled why we put Ebrell alongside Unsworth instead of Joe Royle, may not have made that much of a difference but Royle for me was a better option, Ebrell, Ferguson and Ebrell look like the three stooges on that bench.

I was hoping for Villa Boas who has at least got premier league experiance, could even say Eddie Howe but have already found out being a Blue is not enough to whip this squad into place.

Have a feeling it will be big Sam.

{Ed025's Note - i have said before that where i believe the problems we are having stem from is the "jobs for the boys" culture at the club baz, i would personally kick the lot of them to the kerb and start afresh without all the hangers on who just because they are ex-blues think the club owes them a living, they have had their time and i hope the new guy brings in his own new staff mate..

28 Nov 2017 15:19:17
I honestly know nothing about him. ED002 will be the man to ask.

{Ed002's Note - he would be a good choice but Shakhtar Donetsk won’t want him to go and it would take lot as he has been at the highest level in terms of European competition and would need to give that up.}

28 Nov 2017 18:42:52
the problem stems from buying and playing, only one. of three very similar forwards who are actually midfielders. first koeman did and now unsy is. klassen rooney and gylfi. why first ron now david is giving the nod to sig is beyond me he is not earning the start from match play that's for sure. would love to know what he is doing in training to warrant being played cause as far as i can see he is a luxury player we don't need. we do need youth and young legs in the middle. same for morgan when gana was playing cdm without him he was the best in the prem since he's been playing with him he is the worst. solution stop playing them together neither koeman and unsy have done this. its the same at the back how can a premier league squad not have a back up LB, and after the first time we played martina in the LB position why was he again picked by both koeman and unsy to play there again, we must have a 16 year old who can play left back better than him he is not an option. i wonder if the problem is unsy not taking the best players from the secondary squad and forgeting fringe squad players like holgate who can defend when others being picked clearly can't. all that being said i don't believe it can get much worse, the last ten games we have been terrible and we are barely in the relegation zone with jan on the horizon and seamus yannick nearly ready the next ten games will be better imo so no need to panic me thinks.

28 Nov 2017 19:12:41
Ed002 - after Koeman was dismissed, I recall you suggesting that Hoddle would be a good choice for manager/ head-coach at Everton.
Firstly, am I recalling that correctly?
Secondly, if so, do you still take that view and could that appointment really work given Everton’s present situation and he’s been out of Premier League management for a while and he might bring some “historical baggage or controversy” with him?

{Ed002's Note - Hoddle is an excellent coach, a nice guy and a strong character.}

28 Nov 2017 19:01:32
Ed025 - so you’d get rid of every former Everton player currently on the staff? You’d bin Unsworth, Ebbrell, Ferguson, Royle, the U23 and Academy coaches (Jeffers, etc. ) , the club ambassadors (Snodin, Stuart, etc. ) ? Do you think they’re ALL undeserving of a role with the club and it’s just a blatant case of “jobs for the boys”?
Food for thought: the three managers who won trophies for Everton during the past 50 years - Catterick, Kendall and Royle - were all former Everton players.

{Ed025's Note - i would keep unsy as he has found his niche with the U23,s bobby, the rest can go for me, catterick, kendall and royle were a different ilk to what is at the club at the moment, joe can have an ambassadorial role i suppose but none of the others near the fist team squad, they are all very comfortable in fact too much so and we need a new beginning, thats just my view of course mate and i dont expect a lot to agree, but there is "something rotten in the city of denmark" as they say and its infected this club to the point where the whole set up needs ripping up and starting again..

28 Nov 2017 19:51:29
Ed002 - thanks for your reply. That being the case, why isn’t Hoddle in the running for the Everton - or any other Premier League club’s - managerial position these days?

{Ed002's Note - I wish knew the answer. I will ask him next time I run in to him, but I don’t see him often. I agree that he doesn’t seem to get considered as much as he should.}

28 Nov 2017 20:13:57
I actually think you may be onto something with that speech Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - im just searching for a reason why a lot of experienced international players cant seem to play football i suppose grumpy..

28 Nov 2017 20:18:50
Ed002 - thanks - much appreciated.

28 Nov 2017 20:57:39
It's a very refreshing angle Ed025 and certainly one that I had not considered, How much, or even if, It would set us back as a club is maybe something we will never know.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know if it would work grumpy but up to now nothing else has, it wont happen of course but something is not right at our club mate..

28 Nov 2017 22:40:30
Two people who know all about Everton and speak their minds is Peter Reid and Neville Southall, neither have anything in an Everton role, instead we have second rate yes boss men in a Ebrell, Jeffers and the like.

I agree Ed25 move Unsworth back to the U23, the rest clear out of Goodison and start afresh.

Also agree with Ed02 in regards to Glenn Hoddle.

 


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