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02 Oct 2018 16:40:41
Sky Sports News reports that Alisher Usmanov is again linked to Everton after comments made to Russia 1 (I think) . He is alleged to have said,

"Everton is still far from where it should be. We will also help him. And how. This is my friend's club. "

They are quite speculative about what the comments could possibly mean such as stadium investment, general investment or co ownership but until anything concrete happens it's nothing news. Maybe something is in the pipeline then?

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30 Sep 2018 08:29:49
Any word on when Mina due to make an appearance?

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30 Sep 2018 20:30:01
Who's Mina.

{Ed025's Note - yerry mina is a centre back signed from barcelona in the summer for £27m robbo..

01 Oct 2018 21:26:20
Sorry edd 25 just having a laugh.

{Ed025's Note - fair enough mate, no harm done fella..

02 Oct 2018 07:41:42
Ahh that's who he is I was thinking he was just richarlisons dancing buddy lol
Can't wait to actually c him play really think he could be the missing link in that back line.

03 Oct 2018 10:32:59
He’s looking at only playing a Mina role at this rate.

27 Sep 2018 22:20:21
Great news about Pickford he's got a great future. still not convinced by Silva but will support him anyway but he needs a win, a performance and a clean sheet to take the immediate pressure off that allows him to shape his team. let's hope he gets it!

Does anyone know why we are playing league cup next week but no one else is?

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27 Sep 2018 22:44:51
To fit in with that red lot.

28 Sep 2018 16:27:11
Chelsea did not want to play Their game on the Tuesday, the Reds were happy to play either Day, it was to accommodate Chelsea not our neighbours, so we chose to play the following week, rather than last Tuesday.

Should we beat Southampton, we will not have the same scenario in the next round.

26 Sep 2018 17:06:50
Club announcement Pickford signs new deal till June 2024.

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27 Sep 2018 18:01:41
Much as I like the lad I guess it was to protect their investment. He does seem vulnerable at times and might cost us a few points here and there.

27 Sep 2018 20:37:37
Now for the defence to be sorted.

27 Sep 2018 21:11:48
With utd and our neighbours bowing out of the cup, Silva needs to pick Pickford and a strong team for the cup games, sod the rotation, let’s go all out for one of the cups.

{Ed025's Note - im with you bignev..

23 Sep 2018 09:16:29
Hey Ed 025 it's being reported this morning that Marco is losing the dressing room with senior players complaining about his training methods, hope this isn't true mate and usual paper talk, anything your end mate cheers.

{Ed025's Note - that is from the s** GB so take no notice mate, its a rag that is hardly renowned for its honesty is it..

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23 Sep 2018 09:49:24
Thought so mate thanks.

{Ed025's Note - no probs mate..

23 Sep 2018 10:57:41
3 points be nice today mate fingers x.

{Ed025's Note - and everything else mate..

23 Sep 2018 12:25:02
Utter tripe from the sun, Look at the negative stories that come out before every game, we get smashed in the media for nothing before the west ham game in two days sky released the stories. Can davies live up to his potential, why is gylfi not worth 45m and a pickford blasts set piece defending he didn't.

Today one of their staff have suggested walcott should have gone to Southampton and have analysed silva's start not surprisingly deciding he's terrible and we should just give up. not to mention the two tapping up stories that turned up for a day then disappeared and the Rooney interview where he basically said the owner wanted him out.

{Ed001's Note - one thing that Silva has always had in his favour, and I will admit I am not a big fan of him, is that the players love working with him. His Hull and Watford players loved him and his methods. I would be very surprised if that has changed now he is at Everton. There is a lot Silva could do better, but he does inspire players to want to play for him.}

23 Sep 2018 14:05:51
Agree Jacamo mate.

23 Sep 2018 13:39:44
Agree mate.

21 Sep 2018 16:13:21
Along with many others, I assumed that when this group of players had a manager who wanted to play a more attractive style they would embrace it and flourish, now I wonder if some of them can only play in a Big Sam style, much as I hated it on reflection BS got the best out of some of this dross, Sorry but I think we are in trouble again, not because of the manager, but the absolute tripe at his disposal, I know it's only five games but the same signs are showing as they did under Martinez and Koeman even this early.

Just being realistic chaps not trying to spread too much gloom so let's not have a witch hunt for me by the rose coloured glasses brigade, one example anyone watch Zooma for Stoke last season all over the place where are they now? Stop gap at Chelsea crap at Stoke but we've brought in a wonder boy anyway we'll see hope I'm wrong I have been before, thought I'd made a mistake.

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21 Sep 2018 17:26:16
Struggling to remember players excelling under big Sam, there again the football was that dross I can only assume I nodded off.

As for being in trouble, first time in a few years I can see shoots of recovery, Silva needs a couple of windows to fully tune our team.

Once we get Mina up and running, Richarlison back in the team and hopefully McCarthy back along with Bernard Gomes and Walcott fully fit will be alright.

For me we need Tosun to get a goal or two to get his confidence back.

21 Sep 2018 17:47:42
Hit the nail on the head bignev mate Good post, I don't remember any good game under Big Sam.

{Ed025's Note - me neither..

22 Sep 2018 13:12:04
Sick and tired of all the negativity. Complete change of management of the team, a different style and not even all our new signings haven’t played yet. Yeah Sunday was crap but we had a lot of first team players missing, even if we had enough out to should have won it. Going to take a little bit of time to get it right. Took them over the road 2/ 3 seasons of klopp to be a good side. Don’t understand what some of our fans want. Bit pathetic really.

18 Sep 2018 11:48:50
As the post mortem on Saturday seems to be continuing I thought I would add the simple truth: TOO MANY CHANGES! Yes it is complicated, but the facts are simple. We have changed too many things in such a short time. I am not blaming the manager because I feel he is taking us in the right direction. But we have been a victim of: 2 sending offs. and thus suspensions. Injuries to 7 1st team players. Players coming back from injury who the manager feels should start. Young players trying to force their way into the team. Tactical changes. All of this adds up and the team that played Saturday did not look like the previous weeks team and that one did not look like the one before that etc. We need to get our players all back and let the manager pick the same team for a few weeks running. Then we will know what our squad is really like. We have been very unfortunate on a number of issues, but compare it with last season and the run of games that bored us all to death. We are a WORK IN PROGRESS. Anyone who expects instant success is just being silly in my view!

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18 Sep 2018 14:52:29
Well said work in progress the summer was good business but people have to remember it was his first window and we probably shifted a lot more out than I though we woul be able to and made signings I didn’t think we could get.
A lot of Silva/ Brands signings have not played much yet and some not at all, I just hope Mina can be are powerhouse at the back as I think it will help Keane, holgate and zouma better we need a leader back there, we got bullied on Sunday.

18 Sep 2018 17:06:25
What is worrying though is Zouma and Gomes are on loan, while Mina has a buy back clause in his contract, that’s three players we have no control over.

{Ed002's Note - There is control over Yerry Mina - "buy back" clauses do not m,ean that Barcelona can simply pay Everton and they have to send him back. Plus, given the outrageous price Everton paid for him I don't see any chance of him going back in the short to medium term.}

18 Sep 2018 17:53:10
Excellent post degsy mate, too many managers on here, once we get the injured and suspended and settled in with the newbies we will climb the table, give the guy a chance this won't be fixed in 6 months.

18 Sep 2018 18:48:21
I'm sure ed will correct me but isn't the buy back clause about twice what we paid for him so something about 70 mil I for 1 hope Barcelona wish to try to use it because if he's playing good enough to warrant that fee it will be good for us.

{Ed002's Note - It is rather less than 70M in whatever currency you are thinking, but it is nothing to worry about, nor nothing to even think about. I would not think they would be interested when Everton come to sell the player on.}

18 Sep 2018 18:53:37
Cheers ed.

18 Sep 2018 21:45:06
On Gomes, I believe Barcelona wanted permanent deal before agreeing to loan, so even if he is successful we probably will be able to sign him. Problem is if other teams come in for him. Zouma may seek permanent transfer after seasons end. Depends what Chelsea can off in terms of 1st team football.

19 Sep 2018 17:13:37
I’m probably late to the party on this but if the penalty is a point deduction then what is the maximum number of points that can be deducted?

{Ed025's Note - i dont know to be honest CT..

19 Sep 2018 17:50:41
Thanks Ed. Sorry I realize I posted this on the wrong thread.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

19 Sep 2018 18:05:53
Again I may be wrong but if memory serves me right didn't Luton get docked 30 pts for something along these lines many years ago.

{Ed025's Note - dont say that james...i was thinking 2 or 3..

19 Sep 2018 20:09:23
It was bugging me so had a little look into It they were docked 30 pts but 20 were for insolvency problems
That was added to 10 points they were docked for illegal payments to agents so hopefully worst case 10 pts.

{Ed025's Note - still far too much james, it would be hard to recover from a 10pt deficit mate and the pressure of being rock bottom hard to overcome....slap on the wrist im hoping for..

19 Sep 2018 21:25:04
Same here ed but I can't help but fear the worst at some point they will make an example of someone and with the previous we have and the other ongoing issues I feel we could be the example I just wish that it wasn't going to drag onto the new year and I hope it's given the club the jolt it needs to get things in order and start to do things the correct way.

{Ed025's Note - lets just hope they give us a hefty fine and warn us about our future conduct james, im sure our legal team can bribe the panel as it wont be the first time a brown envelope has passed their way mate.. :)

19 Sep 2018 22:54:06
Well we were also the honorary (and one of very few) recipients of the retroactive diving ban. So I’m sure we can expect something great.

17 Sep 2018 22:37:17
So what's changed? . since Moyes left what has actually changed? . other than shelling out over the odds for average players and promises of success from a billionaire investor nothing has changed.
Same old story. injuries, bad luck, poor decisions are the same excuses being used from Martinez and before long Silva too.

How can an unproven manager who jumps ship more often than Uncle Albert be the answer?
Yet again we have the promise and all die hard fans are sucked into the "plan". what we actually have is 6 points from what should be 15 with probably the easiest start to a season any manager could hope for never mind a new one with a statement to make.

Why o why is it always Everton that allow the "bad run" to end be it a team or individual player?
The kids are not good enough, Schneiderlen is not good enough, Tosun is not good enough. I could go on!
Ferguson must go and Silva needs to show very quickly why the owners have put so much faith in him because I for one cannot see it!

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18 Sep 2018 06:44:29
kids aren't good enough yet kenny was one of best on the pitch, morgan not good enough yet we have fell apart every time he hasn't been on the pitch.
you talk about getting sucked into the plan then proceed to waffle about statements to be made? is that not the same thing, suck it up mate and either support or go follow city if you just want an easy ride.

18 Sep 2018 07:28:09
Jumping on the manager after 5 games is just ridiculous. I'm pretty sure every one of us would want more points than we have. Yes some did get a little carried away with all the optimism but if the alternative is just being miserable and banging on about Moyes then sorry I'll be with optimists.
Things may not work out you may be right, but excuses or not you cannot say injuries/ suspensions have done Silva any favors.
We bought in a lot of players, but unlike other coaches Silva did not try and rush them all into the team, he was patient and it was looking OK. Silly suspensions and a few injuries later and he has been forced to play players who either aren't ready or aren't in form.
Recruitment wise Richarlison, Digne both look class, Bernard showed he may be too and they are all new recruits. There is plenty still to be optimistic about but for some reason you would prefer not to see it!

18 Sep 2018 09:10:40
Some did the exact same thing last season with Koeman and look at the teams we had to play then in the first 6 games. Will Silva last past Christmas? Injuries will play no more bigger part than it did for Koeman. What will, is the fans ability to stay patient with the management and team until they gel. Silva's change in playing style may give him a little more leeway with some but as you can see some fans are not happy already. For me its fundamentally down to the argument of what type of football are we prepared to watch. Pragmatic football based around defensive solidity that gets results occasional wins mainly draws, but not pretty to watch or a more expansive attacking game that is high risk in the fact that we need to score more than concede. To me it looks like the same situation ManU are currently in the process of trying to figure out with Mourinho. It's said patience is a virtue and I can see why. Patience is what we need but whether Silva get enough, time will tell.

20 Sep 2018 15:46:35
You can look for blame in so many ways but quite simply defensive errors like a suicidal throw out by Pickford, ball watching centre backs and strikers that could not hit the pre verbial barn door!
Ifs and buts except the outcome and the post motel would have been very different!

16 Sep 2018 18:25:10
I just spotted Yarmelenlo at Goodison ;)

{Ed033's Note - Pity you didn't spot Andriy Yarmolenko. :)

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17 Sep 2018 10:15:19
pity our defence never, either haha.

17 Sep 2018 17:01:24
Now that’s funny 👍😂.

17 Sep 2018 20:34:55
Sorry, in fairness posted before kick-off was hoping it went missing. Hopefully I spot someone playing centre forward for us soon.

15 Sep 2018 00:03:59
ed002 did we tap him up as they call it or did we speak with his agent and put formal bids in for his services? i no we wer very public with our pursuit but was there anything illegal that u no of? from the outside it seems we followed the rules but i bow to your greater knowledge and u understanding of the rules mate.

{Ed002's Note - Everton made an illegal approach for him after Watford rejected a request to talk with him. Nobody is denying that.}

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15 Sep 2018 11:33:54
thanks mate, poor from the club that.

{Ed002's Note - I would agree.}

18 Sep 2018 14:56:52
Nothing will happen other than slap on risk with fine, if they make an example of us by anything bigger like points deduction then they will open a big can of worms as tapping up has gone on for decades, and I would say most transfers are done with some form of tapping up.

{Ed002's Note - This is not the only tapping up investigation ongoing with Everton and the club has previous history.}


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