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03 Oct 2017 01:20:23
I am not one for believing everything I read in the papers etc, but have just read online that Sport Italia are reporting that Everton have supposedly made preliminary contact with ex Watford and Inter Milan boss Walter Mazzarri?

I also don't do kneejerk, but confess to being extremely worried by what is happening under Koeman at the moment. He doesn't seem to want to use wide men at all. Lookman is being given a sniff and Mirallas has been pushed out of the picture altogether. I am sick of hearing about the fact we haven't replaced Lukaku.

the shower across the Park don't have/ play with a big target man but they play quick direct attacking football played to the strengths of Firmino, Sturridge Salah etc. Why can't we do the same for Calvert-Lewin, Sandro, Rooney and Vlasic. Ok, we have lost Lukaku and Barkley is injured as well as Seamus but why are we so poor at the moment? Last season we had Schneiderlin and Gueye in midfield, we had Baines, Holgate Williams and Jags.

Barry has left, Mc Carthy hardly played last season niether did Besic. We now have Gylfi. the nucleus of the side from last season is still there but Koeman is obviously not using them correctly, when they are available. I was perplexed to read over the weekend that Spurs are monitoring Lookman's situation, he is not being given game time and they tried to sign him when we did.

I have already stated on here that Koeman should throw away the i-pad and the sheets of paper they show to the subs before they finally take the field. We are not playing/ moving the ball quick enough, far to slow and we don't press high enough or quick enough allowing defenders to bring the ball virtually into our half before anyone approaches the man with the ball to tackle!

This allows opposition players the time to pick a pass etc. there is no bite in the team and no talking to each other. I watch Klopp and Conte and they are constantly on the move and showing real emotion towards their team. good and bad.

But a mate of mine today called Koeman "The Skittle"? Because he just stands there with his arms folded waiting for us to be bowled over. again! It would appear to me that the problems go deeper and it begs the question "has Koeman lost the dressing room", because even Rooney looks very subdued and Williams is having a nightmare. and the stats show that Pickford has conceded a lot of goals. not good for his confidence or the defence.

I really believed that the appointment of Ronald Koeman was one of the best deals in the history of this Club I have been supporting since 1961/ 62.but something ain't right is it folks? Let's hope He can turn this around very quickly, otherwise I fear that Moshiri's patience will be tested and certain bookmakers are linking "The Spanish Waiter" to take over if he doesn't! Please COYB.

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03 Oct 2017 12:04:23
Good post GV. I have to agree that it seems RK has lost the dressing room maybe the players don't like his brutal honesty, maybe he goes over the top when calling them out in the press. But, as you say, something just doesn't seem right. I'd ignore the press speculation as to who will take over if RK does get the boot, we were linked with all sorts of managers before we appointed the current boss. Only the bookies win in that situation by throwing names in who have no chance yet fans will have a punt on them regardless. I'd be happy if RK could turn this slump around but I'm not too optimistic that this will happen. A shame really.

03 Oct 2017 12:23:12
Golden Vision one of the best posts I have read on here for some time . Summed it up perfectly.
I am now reading in the S*n! Unreliable I know that players are saying RK has really bad body language st training and generally disinterested.
They saying they think HE WANTS TO GO.
I have never in my 60 years at Goodison heard anything like this before.
Also if Usmanov was thinking about EFC he may change his mind given what is going on .
Everton need to act fast but just like the players at the moment we are incapable of it!

03 Oct 2017 21:28:54
Didn't Koeman make a comment after one of the recent games that if it isn't working then it's best for him just to go? His body language on the touch line doesn't show someone who's particularly bothered either way, which could explain why the players look the same.

{Ed025's Note - i think thats just his natural demeanor mate..

05 Oct 2017 23:43:20
Gv nail and head. Last game of season Martinez slapped win 3 - 0 with u23's. Same nucleas won Wcup.

02 Oct 2017 22:02:26
There are a few (unsubstantiated) reports about Koeman losing the dressing-room and the team not believing in what he's telling them to do.
Be that as it may, it seems that the players just don't trust each other on the pitch and are afraid to be positive and would rather play safe backwards and sideways instead of risking fast forward-going play. Hence the remarks about the lack If confidence and a lack of aggression. As a result, they're nervous and make unforced errors. We need strong leadership and honesty and courage on and off the field.

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03 Oct 2017 21:30:23
Not sure why someone disagreed with that Bobby. Seems pretty obvious to me!

30 Sep 2017 08:52:32
The supporters aren't helping. The game against limasoll. The atmosphere was dead. It was as if the away supporters just showed up. Bitch and moan on here and to your mates whatever. But when it comes to the games we need to be chanting. If we don't it adds an enormous amount of pressure on the players. Constricting the flow of creativity and playing confident football. People may think they are doing right by not chanting and showing the management and players they aren't happy.

But end of the day it really isn't helping the 11 on the pitch. I know its hard to sing at the top of our voices when you're watching utter crap. But it's what we need to do. Get behind the boys get some confidence back in the team and give them some reassurance we still here, we still love the club and we right behind them all the way.

IEFCWT!

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30 Sep 2017 09:42:36
Been thinking this for months. The players don't play with confidence as they're are scared stiffless of getting a rollocking from the fans.

30 Sep 2017 09:43:52
Been saying this for months. The players aren't playing with any confidence as they're scared stiffless of getting a rollocking from the fans.

30 Sep 2017 11:19:17
Chaps, the atmosphere has been on the wain (apart from odd game) since DMs time. but it's amplified recently. Expectations were raised after RMs bumper season. Again under koeman, and following the summer spending spree, expectations rose further again. it's a little like a series of false starts. a lot of us remember glory days. and witnessed them but a lot of fans only ever heard the stories. it's pure frustration. so I can understand it. but it's a viscous cycle and doesn't help at the game. in fact it's almost embarrassing. Regardless of form if u go the game fans need to get behind the 11 lads on the pitch. and stop the booing. or go and support an other team.

30 Sep 2017 12:02:19
I have been moaning about the poor support for a few years now. Goodison has become toxic, for me it has happened since our attendances have risen. I think it's due to a new generation of fans who have never seen us win anything. (For a reference point I have only seen us win the FA Cup, and I was 7 back then) . However, you can't blame the fans for being quiet when you take into account the performances recently, even considering the additional expectation. For me the buck stops with Koeman and his stubborn tactics, and of course the players.

30 Sep 2017 13:09:19
The atmosphere is waning everywhere in football. I grew up watching Everton during the late 80s and 90s and the game has changed dramatically not necessarily for the better with commerciality and global branding being the main objectives. My mates are United fans and last match they where told off for singing in the stands this is a symbol of modern day football.

{Ed025's Note - i can see that bravo mate..

30 Sep 2017 16:16:52
You need the performance to be better to get the crowd going, backwards, sideways boring football that is so slow and lethargic it puts you in a trance.
If you go to a boxing match and both fighters are slow and cagey you wouldn't cheer them on so why would football be different, the performances we have had so far we might as well watch cricket!

{Ed025's Note - i love cricket gray..

01 Oct 2017 00:16:22
To the original post. completely think of the opposite of everything u said. We are fans an we want what we pay for I personally paid over £1500 to go to Atalanta I go every week. When we are paying are on we'll earned money an we are getting performances like we are. We have every right to moan an he frustrated and it's not just aimed at the players it starts from the top down. I think Highly of koemans reputation and would love to give the benefit of the doubt but it's hard when we as a team as a squad as a clue we look lazy we have no direction no purpose. Things. Red to change an change quick. The Bournemouth game was the nail in the coffin for me and I think everyone at the club felt the same. Koeman looked like a man who had had a warning in work that if he doesn't improve he will be sacked and he knows niasse saved his skin. Look back at the reaction when we scored big dunc to koeman. But this goes way deeper than that. unless we change thins an do it quickly we're in for a long hard season. From the optimisium of the beginning of transfer window to the reality of now it feels worlds apart. we need pace an the youth are the only hope we've got of offering this. Youth won't turn it round but it can't do any worse tha. The current. an breathe. come on Everton these are rubbish 😀😀😀.

01 Oct 2017 10:12:01
Rules are killing the game as well, nothing better than a good solid tackle to get the crowd pumped. Most tackles are penalised now even when good, for one rule or another, then add the refs crap performance and we have a uninspired crowd that the team can not even get going with such poor performances.

Combination of everything.

02 Oct 2017 00:12:19
We're not getting paid to go and cheer, Everton fans are proper fans, not like half of Lpool an Newcastle fans with the scarves, we go to watch football and react accordingly, give us passion and good football and Goodison will rock, give us miserable rubbish and expect the same in return, the players/ manager are earning 1-8mil a year, but it's the fans fault for not being blindfully exstatic?

05 Oct 2017 23:49:31
Mowfee82. We moan because we care. I considered myself a average player but did okay. See my posts.

29 Sep 2017 09:47:52
I have always had doubts about RK and it gives me no pleasure to see it in reality .
I do wonder if we were sucked in by RK the world class player . How many world class players are as good at management as they were as players!
Howard Kendall was a excellent player and manager but he a exception .

Look at all the top managers past and present they were all very ordinary players .
I have no magic wand as to who we should have picked but if things continue the way they are st the moment then I see no option but to promote Unsworth and Ferguson and run things internally .

At least their hearts are in the club which could be seen in Ferguson last weekend .
Very difficult decision for the board coming up .

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29 Sep 2017 13:16:34
ancelotti is available, would cost us a bit in compo, but hopefully we will offset that with a higher league position and extended cup runs.

29 Sep 2017 15:22:12
Ancellotti would cost nothing in compensation but may demand a lot wages and surely a young up and coming manager may be better. Someone with fresh new ideas. Eddie Howe, Lucian favre ( don't know his age) , someone obscure from Italy or France.

Who Leipzig got managing them?

29 Sep 2017 15:36:34
i meant compo for koeman if we sacked him.

29 Sep 2017 15:41:34
I may be tempted by Ancelotti but I keep thinking back to our most successful manager was a ex player and RS had their most successful time while promoting internally so I would definitely be looking to support DU . Let's face it he could hardly do any worse .

I have never known such a stubborn, clueless manager than RK, he certainly does not endear himself to the supporters and his treatment of Naisse was criminal, as well as upsetting several other players.

If Bill is the supporter we think he is, he must be hurting and thinking how long we can keep this present situation going before he takes action.

29 Sep 2017 15:55:24
Trebor, more clueless than Martinez? Yikes!

29 Sep 2017 16:46:58
True dixie but we've got money now to pay him if required. Think we will know more closer to Christmas. If results haven't improved, or more importantly performances, then the board will have to make a change.

29 Sep 2017 16:52:28
Gibbs I see were you are coming from but yes overall
I honestly think we played more entertaining football under RM .
Also he had nowhere near that amount of money to spend and also got us Lukaku and a massive profit .
They both clueless but RM at least used players at his disposal.

29 Sep 2017 18:46:10
We were certainly heading for relegation with RM. Koeman has a lot to do but at this stage don't think he is as bad as RM was. He may very well turn out to be with time. Not yet though for me.

29 Sep 2017 19:02:57
Trevor do you not remember Martinez brought niasse in and froze him out?

29 Sep 2017 20:36:53
sorry to be so blunt, but what a load of rubbish! he didn't do too bad last year and he will get it right this season, I'm sure. I'm not his biggest fan, but he must be given time. I liked Moyes, he had a couple of dodgy seasons and ulimately came good - no matter what you thought of him as a person. Everton do not sack managers on a whim or as a knee jerk reaction to a few bad results. This is not a great time to be involved anywhere near football. So many media obsessed, championship manager playing, microwave fans.

29 Sep 2017 21:18:35
Well said pierre. Besides if we signed the striker and left sided defender rk so publicly wanted things might have looked a lot rosier now.

30 Sep 2017 00:16:16
But Pierre, Moyes didn't spend £150m on players. We should at least be comfortably beating the likes of Limassol with the money we've spent.

30 Sep 2017 08:41:29
Time will tell Pierre but as Blue Tommy said we should be beating teams like Limassol in first gear.
I am not a knee jerk kind of person but RK is the exception.
I am now reading that Spurs are sniffing round Ademola Lookman because having paid 11million pound for him he has been frozen out also .
Seems very strange considering we can't score goals .
I have also just read that Stan at Arsenal has bid for Usmanov shares . A dream would be for him to join Midhri at Everton BUT RK not helping to inspire Usmanov that it would be money well spent given the way we are performing.
RK seems to have upset so many people, we are playing extremely negative football, not entertaining at all and little effort being shown . He also in my opinion would not inspire you as could be seen by the contrast in reactions between him and Duncan Ferguson last Saturday .
If I am wrong I will be the first to hold my hands up but I am convinced as I was before a ball was kicked this season that he is not suited to THE PEOPLES CLUB.

02 Oct 2017 00:22:52
The man never addressed what every team needs, pace, width passion. Did he think Rooney, klas, sig, snide, are just going to pass it round like Barcelona and play teams off the park? The only positives this season are vlasic, niasse, dcl, jjk and he barely had anything to do with them.

24 Sep 2017 18:55:53
Hi Ed 025 what's your take on the latest in the Sunday rags re a £40 million pound move from Everton for Giroud, seems a bit steep to me he will be 31 soon, I would have thought the Gooners would go for this as he only has a year o f his contract to go, cheers mate.

{Ed025's Note - too much imo GB but hey so long as they dont knock on my door for it it does not bother me mate, hes very good though..

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24 Sep 2017 22:03:47
I'm more interested in the rumour that we are to meet with psg about trying to sign Cavani don't know if it's true at all but would love it to be, Giroud would be good but £40 mill too expensive think he would already be here if it wasn't for his wife and family wanting him to stay in London.

24 Sep 2017 22:59:04
I've been reading about us meeting PSG, I just cannot see us being the only team in for him, brilliant if we were, but I think a lot of the big boys will be ready to snap him up.

25 Sep 2017 09:31:11
Would Cavani not simply cost way too much for us? We haven't got a limitless pot of money. I like the idea of an old school Bill rocking up with an offer of £3m, a bag of Space Raiders and a Freddo.

25 Sep 2017 12:07:10
Well if and I emphasis the IF we were prepared to offer £66m for Costa would that not go a long way towards getting Cavani?

25 Sep 2017 13:05:56
no way did we offer £66m for Costa mate, the offer was a loan till end of season, Costa said no.

25 Sep 2017 13:57:49
Fair enough stig, that's a no to the IF then. Still I'd imagine the club and people that make decisions would be willing to spend on a striker. Its the position that the dog in the street knows we need strengthening. Bar Niasse, DCL or Sandro producing the goods.

25 Sep 2017 18:55:59
Agree with you there NBTB mate, i reckon R K will spend big on a striker in the next window.

25 Sep 2017 19:51:40
Here we go again with money!

26 Sep 2017 10:09:14
Afraid money is the nature of the beast Pierre mate, even lads in lower divisions are costing millions let alone the Premiership look what we got for Rom, so we have to spend.

26 Sep 2017 17:27:58
No, I get that GB, I just don't get why people complain about how much a player will cost us. I doesn't matter to me as it isn't my dosh! I think this board got a little bit bogged down in the summer with what people thought players were worth etc, and personally, I found it a little tiresome. Here we are again in only September and the bean counters are out!

I'm not having a go at anyone by the way. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and each to their own.

26 Sep 2017 18:11:25
am with you there mate.

27 Sep 2017 18:40:12
Would the fans want us to spend big and get a top striker, or be in the position we are in at the moment, for me I don't care what they spend as long as they score goals.

24 Sep 2017 00:45:49
Now it gets interesting. We will know what kind of manager Koeman is in the next week or so. Davies and Niasse saved his bacon. I think he would have been out of the door if we had been beaten 1-0 today. We will see if he has learnt anything from today. He should have already learnt that we can't play 4 slow no. 10s. It will also be interesting to see if he can swallow his pride and start Niasse in the next PL game. If he starts with the same team on Thurs as today then I will happily give him a lift to the airport myself.

However so made up for Niasse. He's become a cult hero because he's the underdog, and because he is a model professional with a great attitude when faced with a difficult situation.

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24 Sep 2017 02:32:52
Niasse can't play Thursday anyway. Not in Europa squad. Kenny needs to play as does Davies. using Kenny as a sub is a waste of a substitution. He should be starting. today we could of had extra attack with Lookman or Vlasic on as sub if Kenny was played from the start.

24 Sep 2017 05:48:52
I agree. The fact that Niasse can't play Thurs is more of a reason to start him against Burnley as he also has fresh legs. Koeman has some big decisions to make. IMO he can't play both Rooney and Sigurdsson unless he ditches the 2 defensive midfielders (which for me means benching Schneiderlin, who has been awful this season) .

24 Sep 2017 10:56:38
Delighted with Niasse but imho it is too early to start him. Around the 55-60th minute I'd introduce him. Get him more established and confident for a few more games before starting him.

I'm for one second saying he doesn't deserve to start. Simply saying that I think it would better for him and less pressure if it was left a couple of more games before starting him.

24 Sep 2017 10:58:22
Agree blue Tommy, Schneiderlin is liability every game he has got himself booked within 20 mins with a ridiculous tackle. Niasse is a credit to the club and his profession with his professional attitude and behaviour despite the way he has been treated. Hope Koeman has a ounce of Niasse's claass and admits he was wrong and that he is going to give Niasse a chance, because in my opinion he is what we have been missing. Thought we looked a better when Rooney went off, far to much going through him.

25 Sep 2017 09:52:48
Only problem with starting Kenny is that we become very susceptible to diagonal ball due to his size. That is only reason i can see that Koeman went for Cuco who is far taller. Kenny offers a lot more pace and quality in his crossing but bottom line is that he is first and foremost a defender.

25 Sep 2017 12:26:35
Coleman is no giant dave.

25 Sep 2017 19:46:57
I don't think size matters where full backs are concerned. Baines ain'y massive and neither is Coleman, and they've not done to bad!

24 Sep 2017 00:30:14
Luke shaw for free in the summer?

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24 Sep 2017 13:44:39
There's a reason for that. Injury prone and fat.

23 Sep 2017 12:49:12
Morning Ed I see in the rags today it's being reported that Everton made a £66 million pound offer to Costa to join us, if that is correct, surely that proves that the board was prepared to back R K in the window to the hilt and all the ill feeling that's been going was totally unfounded, COYB for a win today cheers.

{Ed025's Note - i cant see it mate..

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23 Sep 2017 18:16:38
They wanted him on loan mate, Costa said no.

20 Sep 2017 16:38:10
Hi eds any truth in the rumour in the echo that we are in for Cavani?

{Ed025's Note - im not certain but it seems very unlikely mate..

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20 Sep 2017 23:43:41
Is it edison cavani.

21 Sep 2017 01:30:34
More likely signing Cavanis dad as our centre forward than Edinson.

17 Sep 2017 22:55:52
Koeman you have lost the plot mate. Rooney (I apologise Wayne) was everywhere, the thing is when he got the ball where was the support or target. Midfielders with no pace, a team sitting so deep it was virtual capitulation, someone has to take the hit. This is the worse Everton side I have seen for years. So what has happened.

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17 Sep 2017 23:38:55
Lookman should be starting, you need pace.

19 Sep 2017 18:11:46
you see spurs have been linked with 2 barkley-esque players this week alone would love to be a fly on the wall at his contract offer. thing is it will be a clear message to ross that any idea of a big contract is clearly gone. there is no definitive answer to what's wrong koeman's tactics and formations are wrong the players he picks and why he picks them is a mystery. for the life of me still don't know why we bought williams, keane is suffering from having an unsettled defence, but with williams keane and jags you just can't play a back 3 against good players they're just not quick enough. the board and koeman knew we needed another defender but didn't get one. the midfield is another hotspot both gana and morgan are too similar and rooney is filling there postions as the game wears on, but neither of them push forward. we have pace and defenders coming back from injury would we be in this position if seamus and bolasie were playing probs not. we have no clear leader on the pitch this maybe due to language barriers i don't know. imo koeman has forgotten the most fundamental thing in football making 11 guys play as a team cause a team they are not currently. whole thing is a nightmare, but if koeman wants us to play high tempo football like southampton did then he is going to have to start playing a more youthful 11 cause the current 11 are a joke.

21 Sep 2017 14:14:30
Liverpool fan an here, I don't think the team is hat bad it's just josh key components, pace and a target man a lot of players were purchased and will need ti gel. I thought bo the players are good players maybe they're struggling with the system.

 


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