Everton Banter Archive May 11 2013

11 May 2013 23:13:04
Ian Dowie to be announced as new Everton manager after recommendation from Moyes. Source - club insider at board level. (Not Joking)

Damn. And I wanted Joe king as our new manager.

U have a problem seek help.

Ian Dowie? What a great wind-up that post is!
I don't know if he's a "has been" or a "never was-er" - probably equally both of those - but anyone who believes he's a contender needs to look up the word "gullible".

11 May 2013 23:00:27
Genuine questions for Mike: who do you think should have taken over from Walter Smith back in 2002 if not David Moyes? At what point during Moyes' tenure do think he should have been replaced and by whom?

Mourinho :)

11 May 2013 21:17:33
Is there a realistic takeover of the club in sight? Kenwright could use all the publicity to put the club in the shop window. We need a multi billionaire!

That ship has sailed along with Moyes
Old Bill

11 May 2013 20:56:11
All of a sudden everyone wants matinez. granted he done well winning the cup today yes I give hum tha one but if Wigan go down would everyone still be wanting him at Everton i'm not so sure they would. I don't want him but but its Down to bill the bandit not us fans

No mate not because he won the cup he is the best choice considering the other muppett managers who s been linked and would ruin our club think about it he got experience he is young and gets is teams playing attractive footy

dave

No to Martinez, has not bettered Wigan in the league at all, during his spell in charge.

Zulu toffee.

11 May 2013 23:40:46
I think it is more to do with the way his teams play. Yes he constantly battles relegation but staying up is an achievement for a club the size of Wigan. Each season he has been forced to sell his best players. He also conducts himself with class and dignity.
That said my first choice would be Zola but i'd not complain with Martinez.

Muppet managers for a muppet club what exactly have the toffees done for world football get real ya mug mm {Ed025's Note - 4th most successful team of all time in england?

11 May 2013 20:46:18
Eds, who do you think the next Everton manager will be? {Ed025's Note - i have said martinez from the start mate..

11 May 2013 20:20:43
With Wigan winning the cup now. they were in europe anyway but now they won it won't that be an extra slot for european place?

Andy

Omg, you for real, they were in Europe because city would have qualified through the league, makes no odds now they won! Why do people ask the same crap as if a extra euro spot will just appear!

Poster 2 - I totally agree. I'm also sick of people asking the same stupid question. It's been asked daily since the semi finals. Nothing has changed!

Ps well done to Laudrup and Martinez who have now won more this season than DM has in his whole career.

I'd like:

1. Bilic
2. Poyet
3. OG Solsjkaer (apologies for the spelling)

Pod

11 May 2013 19:42:57
Well done wigan but guess that martinez still isn't good enough nah hasn't done anything good at wigan eh?

11 May 2013 19:29:40
Wigan, just destroyed city, with nowhere near the caliber of players we have!
Everyone slates Martinez, and don't want him, fighting relegation year in and year out!
Lets remember, Wigan get about 5 fans at home games, as said above, nowhere near our caliber of players, wage bill proberly half ours which restricts who they attract and buy, this don't mean he is not a good manager, he also exceeds expectations at his club I would say!
I'v always liked him, still don't know if he's who I want, but he knows his football, likes to run the whole club from youth to first team, and is not scared to use youth players!
Oh and now cups, Martinez 1 Moyes 0.

Can not wait to see some of the posts after his win haha

EverTheOptimistic

I wouldn't say they destroyed city, it took them 91 mins to score and only had a few chances before that

11 May 2013 19:21:59
So this season both Michael Laudrup and Roberto Martinez have won one more trophy than Gollum did in 11 years here, but of course they both must have had a huge budget achieve it eh?

Mike

Agreed Mike

Lets see were swansea are in the next few years and wigan in the next few days eh? i'd luv a trophy too but with relegation? No ta I like them both as managers but to rip Moyes using them, do 1. PADDOCKBLUE

Mike, in a one-off match anything is possible, particularly when playing Premier league opposition. But, to maintain it over a season for 11 seasons on a lower budget than Wigan and Swansea is remarkable.
Can you not acknowledge Moyes has improved us immeasurably and brought stability since the dark days of Walter and Walker? Yes, he has his faults but don't we all.

The way you talk about Moyes MIke, you sound a complete and utter k. No disrespect mate. If you dish it in the manner you do, hope you happy for others to have an opinion.?
B

11 May 2013 19:12:24
"There's a guy works down the chip shop swears it's Benitez;
Just like he swore that Moyes would stay royal blue;
He said we've chosen Rafa, not Martinez;
But he's a liar, so it isn't bloody true!"

11 May 2013 19:10:20
Anyone still doubting Martinez just done more than Moyes could do in 11 years with us.
Joe EFC

11 May 2013 18:52:23
Moyes the man who gives youth a chance. What happened then with callum mcmanaman. Running the show.

11 May 2013 18:40:25
this is what I think will happen this summer:

fellaini will go to chelsea for 13m plus lukaku
jelavic to wolfsburg for 7m
naismith to scottish club for 4m total money = 24m

new manager vitor perira or roberto matinez

signings:
leroy fer 5m
keusuki honda 2m
alvaro negredo 12m
dragovic 3m
22m spent

line up:

gk- Howard
rb- Coleman
cb-Jagielka
cb-Dragovic
lb - alex sandro
cdm - fer
cam - honda
lm- pienaar
rm- mirallas
st- lukaku
st- negredo

subs-
distin, anichebe, gibson, mucha, barkley, oviedo

Our reported targets have completely gone out the window now, no point I talking about Fer, Negredo, Honda. A new manager will bring his own targets. Unless you're Arry who has David's phone tapped.

What's happened to Bainesy. Do you think we'll sell him, or are you just not playing him full stop?

Everton Al.

Did you forget about bainsey?

11 May 2013 19:40:37
Lukaku cost 18m and is having a great season at west brom so you are cluless if you think we will get him plus 13m for a 23m rated fellaini

So we ain't selling Baines but dropping him for a player who we ain't signing according to what you think.

11 May 2013 18:10:24
If Martinez comes I hope he leaves Kone behind

Degsy

If he comes he better bring mcmanaman back and mccarthy with him

An maloney

11 May 2013 17:03:52
Do we still get 25% if Rooney is sold? {Ed025's Note - if sold over £26m i believe,,

11 May 2013 16:43:27
Terry Butcher??
Must be doing a decent job at cally thistle. can't be anymore tactically na�ve than Moyes. Don't know what is view is on development but must have to play young players up there. PASSIONANATE beyond belief, would do for me if his visions/beliefs were up to scratch. and if it ever kicked off on the touchline we'd WIN.

Terry Butcher!
His surname describes what he'd do to our club if he was put in charge.
He failed as a manager at Coventry, Sunderland, and Brentford - so he's had to retreat to the backwater of Scottish league football for a job.

Fair one, couldn't even remember him managing any other club so he must have been pants. It just came to me before when I was getting 1lb of sausages, that's all. . Hoddle?

11 May 2013 16:29:56
Big Nev says that Zola is the best choice, has proved at Watford he can operate on a budget, while still being one of the most respected figures in the game.

11 May 2013 16:20:50
Daily Mail today 'The younger Glaswegian has proved himself in the market and in nurturing youth'. Tell me how many chances has Moyes given to youth?

It's a myth that Moyes has given youth a chance.
Joe EFC

11 May 2013 16:11:29
Stop with Benitez nonsense never would we want him after calling us a small club anyone remember that? Ryan

11 May 2013 15:34:32
"The Malky MacKay is strong and tough;
But only the best is good enough;
For all our fans, the best by far,
Is Michael Laudrup, superstar!" {Ed025's Note - love it jonesy..

Brilliant

Toffee ace

11 May 2013 16:13:48
Im with you Jonesy

hey bill u said u would listen to the fans and this is who want. go get him

Degsy

11 May 2013 14:56:25
Southall spouting off that Zola should be next everton manager! I think he's a great guy but maybe a bit to soft! Could be wrong he might be an animal behind closed doors! Going to be an interesting, stressful summer

Gianfranco's namesake, the French author Emile Zola, wrote a book called Nana - which is my reaction (i. e No-No) to him being suggested as our manager. He was a great player, and as a manger he does try younger players, but it didn't work out at West Ham United and how much of Watford's promotion push is down to the club owner's links with Udinese and Granada and the dozen or so players they've loaned from those clubs?

11 May 2013 16:43:48
Zola is so respected in Italy players would come to play for him, we could pick up some real bargains, as Big Nev points out the way Laudrup has done.
The thought of him coaching our more skilled players appeals to me. He's got the wow factor from his playing days too, he's young enough to be around a while. The job he's done at watford shows west ham got it wrong.

11 May 2013 13:49:58
Please blues, I am a super optimist but stop the Rooney coming to us crap.

Never going to happen until he is 31. Currently on 250 k per week and our top wage is 70 k, I love Everton more than my misses but would not take a 70% drop in wages to do the same job,
No friggin way hosay

He ain't comin.

Degsy

Spot on Degs. He won't be back until his legs are gone. Then I'd tell him to do one.

Toffee ace

Guys. the lad has lost his grip on reality, and his ego has ran away with him. 250k a week. wages alone will prevent him coming at any point. and his antics/sulking at Manchester United makes me realize that he can't cope without attention. like my 2 yr old. I'd prefer to say. "once a blue" and leave it at that

11 May 2013 13:30:47
Who will have the hardest job next season. Moyes taking over the champions with loads of money to spend or our new manager taking over 6th in the league with the usual small budget. Trouble is if we finish lower than 7th half the fans will be straight on the new guys back. If it was somone in the Laudrup mould where will he get the money to buy the players to fit his style of play because Gibson, Anichebe and Osman wont.

It won't be a small budget though, especially if Fellaini leaves, in fact, could have a fair few mil to spend.

Why wouldn't Gibson fit his style? The lad can keep hold of the ball and pick out a pass (probably our best passer). Same as Osman.

Thanks for your input Manc but when we were english champions and winning european trophies utd were languishing in mid table mediocrity. Swings and roundabouts lad.

11 May 2013 13:07:12
really want to slaven bilic take over would be a great replacment

11 May 2013 12:56:41
Heard Fellani to us for 25 million no way 15 max you will get. Moyes will win trophies with us just like Rooney did don't worry.

We payed £15m for him you deluded manchester united will have to pay top dollar I liked moyes but you better get ready for negative tactics.

11 May 2013 13:39:40
You are deluded if you think we will only get 15m for him because that is what we paid for him COME ON CITY!

And Manchester United fans wonder why all the other football fans dislike them so much! They take being patronising & condescending to a new level! Arrogant prats!

I'm not worried. I look forward to you getting Fellaini, the trophyless one needs a big lump to get his defenders to hoof the ball upto. His negative long ball tactics will go down a treat at the 'theatre of wet dreams'. And we won't take him back when he is sacked in January either.

Mike

Has van persie got the legs at 30 years old to run the flanks all game. Just wait and see
Jc

Another knockout by Mike the trophyless one haha at least he coming up with good one's funny have to say. Stef the blue

Knowing Moyes he'll put Evra in midfield aswell.

You seem to forget he has a buy-out clause of £23-24m and that's to a CL team. You'll pay the going rate or you don't get him. Simples.

11 May 2013 12:19:41
Just a thought:

Manager - Vitor Pereira

Sell:

Fellaini - 25m
Baines - 20m (if no choice)
Heitinga - 4m
Gueye - 2m
Naismith - 2m
Anichebe - 6m = 59M

Buy:

Rooney - 25m
Fer - 6m
Honda - 3m
Negredo - 12m
Mertens - 10m
Dragiovic - 4m
De Vriejs - 6m
Naughton - 4m = 70m

We had money in Jan not spent and TV money and money still to come from Rodwell plus wages of Neville and Moyes as new manager won't be on the same.

Your thoughts Ed.

Anichebe 6 million really?

I would rather keep Baines than sign Rooney!

11 May 2013 11:47:18
Fellaini to united 25m
Baines to united 17m?

rooney return? 25m
honda 3m
filipe luis 4m~
wilfred bony 8m

hope baines doesn't go he's the best lb in the worlddddd

I think united could come in for baines and Felliani if so we could ask for Rooney and money with the money bid for negredo and surely we had our own funds without ther sales to try and get leroy fer or Honda the new manager would have a really strong squad without changing an awful lot?

Rooney will not drop from 200k+ to our max of 70k

11 May 2013 11:38:25
we all know that moyes is going to try and get our two stars (baines and fellaini) but he says he loves the club. Yes he's been a good manager but really he's just turned on the club and doesn't care one bit for us

He does love this club, but when he goes he has to look after Uniteds interests not ours. Would you complain if Laudrup came in and then went back and brought Michu with him. Its the way of the world, you have to to what's best for yourself.

This bitterness is getting ridiculous. He's a grown man, an ambitious guy, an ambitious manager capable of making his own decisions. Yes Everton is a great club, but it isn't competing at the top any more. Utd is the biggest club in the world, how could he say no? He's had one arm tied behind his back here, financially, and done a great job, he wants to test himself. Move on. I could understand the frustration and bitterness if it was a sideways step to Spurs or Newcastle but it's not, it's the biggest jon in the world. I for one wish him well, apart from 2 games a season.

11 May 2013 11:09:39
as long as the new manager gives hibbert a new 10 year contract stipulating he plays up front, then I will be happy with whoever we appoint. he's been so unlucky with injuries this year. after his goal vs aek athens it would have opened the floodgates and he would be challenging rvp for the golden boot. (before anyone takes this seriously its a JOKE!) but honestly I hope the new gaffer keeps hibbert. could still teach coleman a lot about the defensive side of the game as that is obviously his strong point.

1878barlow

11 May 2013 11:05:26
This will go down like a lead balloon, But I also think if we could intrest Benitez to Goodison it would be the way forward for our club

Totally agree with you. I think no matter who his previous employers where he is the best manager around. I don't want Lennon or Martinez running our great club give me someone with pedigree, he has it!.

Totally agree

I'd be happy with that.

AussieBlue

11 May 2013 10:54:40
Wouldn't it be great if mourinho decided to really test his skills and manage a club that doesn't have money to burn! let's be honest any manager can go to the likes of Chelsea and buy whoever they want too add to an already great team! Where's the skill in that? But managing a team like everton where you really have to scout various players and look for bargain buys and turn them into international players now that's a challenge and that's the difference between good and great managers! Come on Jose challenge yourself! You will get full control of all football matters and no chairman telling you who you to buy and who to sell! Plus you get the honour of restoring a great club to its rightful place!
Totally unrealistic I know! But we can dream!

11 May 2013 10:45:00
Why is anyone suggesting Bilic as our next Manager when the *** (fill in expletive to suit) feigned injury over an alleged elbow incident in 1998, in a World Cup semi-final and deprived Lauren Blanc of a place in France's winning World Cup final team! It was the solitary red card of Laurent Blanc's decorated career. Replays showed no such offence. I'll never forgive him for that!

11 May 2013 10:29:24
Where in Laudrups press conference did he say no everton he gave the perfect amswer I live for today. If efc come in for hm next week? But could we afford him?
Mushy

11 May 2013 09:35:18
Got to be Billic with big dunc as
No. 2 for me. That would be one scary touch line!
Charlieblue

11 May 2013 09:24:44
Why would Mackay leave Cardiff when he got them promoted and will have more money to spend.

Why would he leave cardiff for everton, how long have you got!

The new manager will have funds, even without the sale of fellaini, heitinga and gueye (and possibly baines but I hope not). stop trying to bring the mood down. why would mackay stay at cardiff? surely going to go down. but yh why come to everton. top 6/7 club, great fans, plenty of potential. but yeah makes great sense to stay at cardiff.
1878barlow

Because Cardiff are a small club, obviously

Toffee ace

11 May 2013 04:39:50
Can see the new manager (whoever he is) having a good platform to work with, and some flexibility to utilize some finances to add strength to the first team squad.

With the current squad we will gain some benefit from players that have not really been utilized in 2012/2013 but have now had a season working with the squad. Such as Oviedo, Barkley, and Naismith who was utilized early in the year but not much in the second half of the year. I would even throw Duffy into that group of players given he has had another year to grow and surely will be closer to being used more often. None of the above will make the first team significantly stronger next season, but will add a more secure depth and the ability to rotate the squad to play form players rather than relying on the first 11 or 12 regardless of their form.

Any players we lose for free or small fees (Neville, Mucha, Heitinga) have not really been used much but should free up enough wages for 3 strong first teamers. Then if we lose anyone they will come with substantial fees to reinvest, as well as any money that was being readied as a base.

So overall we should see at least 3 players in, and more like 6 if we lose Felli and Baines, and not losing any others that were integral to the squad this year. Plus the benefit of having Oviedo, Barkley, Naismith, Duffy more useful this season, I think we can push on (not CL but definitely for 5th). {Ed025's Note - good post that bra mate..

Agreed, will be interesting to see what the likes of Naismith Oviedo etc. will offer under the new manager

11 May 2013 03:23:32
Just thought I'd see where everyone else is at. Who would be happy with Rafa as our next manager? There's no denying he's a great manager but would we as supporters want him? {Ed025's Note - i think it would be a chelsea scenario all over again..

I disagree ed, I think most fans would be relieved enough to have a good manager in, and not elennon or hughes etc. {Ed025's Note - you could be right mate...im just expressing my opinion..

Id have him, very experienced manager who has managed some very successful clubs, why can't we be the next?RW

Sacked from last 2 jobs, can not hold this one down, won with team houllier had built before ruining it buying crap. Wouldn't touch him!

11 May 2013 01:17:56
i would like to just say could celtic fans stop leaving replys about neil lennon being manager here, no everton fan wants him so stop trying to say its a step down from that pub league he currently manages in. i'd rather have zippy than him

Lennon found it hard work to win a one horse race, so thank you, don't call us we will call you, if we are ever in need of a new groundsman, however be advised, this job is no walk in the park as it involves moving all bk's rubbish, and there's a lot of it. {Ed025's Note - and what rubbish are you referring to?..

Lennon would be a good move for Everton & him, on a CV. He wipes half of the overrated managers in the EPL. 3 & a half years of being a manager & he has bought a whole new team which will sell on for more than 100% profit, got the celtic team average age to 23/24. Will stand his ground on selling players (ie Gary hooper pay 9m & he's yours Norwich didn't budge & tbh he is a poacher who will score goals but 9m was a polite way of saying he's not for sale). Took a very in experienced squad into the champions league & got lucky to be unlucky in champions league.

He has baggage but is still learning, a lot of managers all over the world have a lot of respect for Neil Lennon. Was only this year he was wining & dining at wembely with the top managers from all around the world for a managers thing with ufea or FIFA.

A guy called Al came onto the celtic pages & asked what Lennon was like, he is a good manager long term & I believe Lennon could take Everton on a good cup run in a Europa spot & maybe be into top 5 givin time.

Short term he will demand respect & if any player is for sale at Everton Lennon will command a higher fee for that player. He is not shy in telling a chairman what he wants. he's certainly not a yes man like a lot of managers.

I don't know a hell of a lot about Everton if I'm being honest but reading between the lines they work to a budget. Neil Lennon has spent 13m in 3 years at celtic with a wage bill of 30m a year approx (highest paid player in spl is on about 25k mark), with 13m he has spent, 1 if not 2 signings will make that 13m back which for any chairman is good business.

Lennon has brought in celtic 20m profit this season alone in a league that is mince & with no old firm games any more, he also cleared our debt of 9m which all of the above has came from what's on the park.

Tbh the arrogance from some of the people on here is shocking. I hope he gets the job as I think he will prove a lot of people wrong, his first year will be about getting his feet under the table but from there he would excel the club on & off.

Lenny

11 May 2013 00:39:00
Seen some people saying we should go for a foreign coach. Laurent Blanc?Currently out of work since leaving France job. World class player, well respected in football world.

10 May 2013 23:12:52
anyone else think that moyes has been an absolute t**t when he said 'i had planned for everton next season but when man u came along I couldn't turn it down'. So we're second best. A small club. Moyes has been Loyal!? my arse he still left us. 11 years or not. and has the cheek to carry on FOR 2 GAMES, then they expects us to celebrate moyes' tenure as manager. They can f**k off. He should have the decency to resign. in any other proffesion, if an employee moved to a competitor then they are immediately escorted away and given their last remaining pay cheques.

11 May 2013 00:22:38
He didn't once say we are a small club and I don't think anyone could turn down the Manchester United job and how are they competitors? They challenge for title we challenge for a top 5 spot and no need for the language go to bed child

Must admit, feel a bit uncomfortable about DM staying in charge for last two games. Also feel that DM and Kenwright are bullshxting the fans once again in saying, "it all came out gf the blue", liars. DM has been great for us and wish him all the best but he is now the Manchester United manager and should leave ASAP. Let's see how much he really cares for the people's club in the summer, when he comes back for Felli and Baines, and also (as rumours suggest) raids our youth academy. Stubbs should take charge until new manager appointed. (Wavertree Blue)

Give it a rest he has been nothing but great for us and deserves a good send off
JabEFC

I am not saying he lied when he said he was going to stay, then Utd came calling. He knew this was in the offing and that's the only reason he didn't sign a new contract. Think about it, Ferguson didn't just decide on a whim to retire he has reportedly come out and said that Moyes was the agreed choice for new manager when he makes the decision to go. He let his contract run down because he knew that Fergie was close to calling it a day. Yes he would have signed a knew deal if his mate decided to carry on, of course he would, but being out of contract makes it neater and less complicated. He can take a signing on fee with his wages. He can go and make offers for the youngsters and our better players. You can tell in the smile on his face that he]s not being sincere. He should be treated like anyone else who has let his contract run down. Judas

Perhaps it didn't come out of the blue, there's been huge speculation for a while now. None of us were kidding ourselves to think he would turn down the United job as much as we all would have wished it. Regardless of whether he has lied to us here or not, we are in the position we are in and we must build on what legacy Moyes has left behind.