Everton Banter Archive January 12 2019

12 Jan 2019 19:20:47
I actually think that Tosun is a good striker that hasn't had a truly good run in the first team since Silva has taken charge. We could end up selling him and getting someone not as good. Also if a Turkish club comes in for him, you can bet your bottom dollar that it'll be a loan request that will eventually go pair shape.

I say keep him and do business in the summer. And play the guy, he will score, just give him time.

12 Jan 2019 19:30:06
I agree with you, need the bloke, constantly has to come looking for the ball, so far.

12 Jan 2019 20:17:21
Agree with both of you. Always said he is our most clinical finisher at the club. Just has no confidence, but how do you get any with daft 5 minute cameos here and there. Play him and gave faith, he will start banging them in.

12 Jan 2019 21:06:12
Any striker will struggle the way we are playing at the moment.

{Ed025's Note - your right sa, we huff and puff around the area but dont actually create many clear cut chances imo mate..

13 Jan 2019 12:24:46
Could not agree more with the OP, I think Tosun is a great player and a clinical one at that - simply short on confidence and unfortunately a square peg to a round hole in Marco Silva's style of play / regime.

I've kept to myself the past few months, observing the general consensus of opinion from the fans on this site and there's one very common occurrence (which expands beyond this website and into most news and social media). People forge opinions. Often taken from a headline, story, decorated sports broadcast and twisted spectacularly in their own format believed to be their own (Corbyn taking Britain back to the 1970's; for example?).

Last season, people could not sing the praises of Tosun anymore. Hard worker, creates space, makes all the right runs, clinical finisher, brings others into the attack with his efficient hold-up play. There were so many positives.

Fast forward to this season and of all the Tosun related posts I would say 90% have the same format - forged from the person before. Too slow, not good enough, lacking quality, lazy, needs to look hungrier, not taken his chances (baring in mind the chances given to him have been drab in regards to both playing time and service on the pitch - consistency is required).

Yes, I admit, he is not world class. He is not going to score 20+ goals every season until his retirement. However, I absolutely guarantee he is the only person in this team (with the exclusion of Richarlison) who is capable of coming remotely close to that number. Quality and technical ability does not disappear over night (it rarely ever disappears). We have all seen his ability and we have all been incredibly impressed by it before.

The man has been absolutely starved of game time, service, love and appreciation and its laughable how the majority of our fan base can jump onto his flaws so tenaciously.

It's clear that Marco Silva does doesn't rate him under his regime and style of play, however his decision to exclude him as often as highlighted - does not not mean he has turned into a drab player over night.

If it were my choice as a manager - given the current crop of talent we have, Cenk Tosun would play every minute of every game. If any one individual can provide the goals to push us up the table - it is this man.

Unfortunately, with a combination of low self-confidence and no faith from the manager, we are compelled to losing him at a cut price, I just hope wherever he ends up he can be the great players he deserves to be at this club.

I hope he proves all the naysayers of Everton Football Club wrong.

12 Jan 2019 17:16:57
I know we need quality all over the squad but striker has to be priority and ASAP can be the difference from being a good season or another poor season even though I think we have right people in place now.

12 Jan 2019 17:55:40
For sure mate but we have to address our leaky defence too.

12 Jan 2019 17:57:27
The right DoF is in place but powder kept dry on others. 8 points off 18th and 11 points off 6th. First time in 3 Managers first Season we are in bottom half at this stage. We supposedly have better players, playing better football but worse results. So please tell me where is the weakness, are the 11 put out all thick so can't absorb tactics or instructions.

12 Jan 2019 18:22:40
See where you are coming from dfs mate, as you rightly say we now have Marcel in place so hopefully Marco will have all of his own team in two or three Windows and not half an inherited like he has at the moment, not a five minute job this its going to take time.

12 Jan 2019 14:24:44
Good win for West Ham up to 8th and going well, they have an organised defence, Marco take note.

12 Jan 2019 14:56:06
Agreed, but to be fair mate Arsenal weren't exactly on their game today were they.

12 Jan 2019 14:56:10
Welcome to the real World at last GB.

12 Jan 2019 15:09:28
Have been saying that for a while dfs mate that our defence needs sorting, and your right BigH but still a good 3points for them, would settle for that result tomorrow for us.

12 Jan 2019 16:51:29
Definitely GB, 3 points is 3 points and as long as we get them tomorrow and keep the pressure on W/ Ham and those above us it's all good.

12 Jan 2019 17:05:48
Exactly BigH mate I would take 3 points by hook or by crook tomorrow, its all getting close around us at the mo, just hope Marco can get a striker in and hopefully do something for our leaky defence, we are losing too many goals even when 1 or 2 up.

12 Jan 2019 10:30:03
Should be an open (ish) game tomorrow and depending on a few results this afternoon a win could see us move up 3 places to 8th. I believe. Do you? COYB!

12 Jan 2019 13:04:52
Good time to be playing them. They are in a bit of a bad patch as are we. Let's hope we can get that win.

12 Jan 2019 14:28:36
Thanks very much Arsenal! Awful display allows West Ham to snaffle 8th place. Grrr.

12 Jan 2019 14:32:46
No, I don't believe we can move up to 8th, not unless there is 4 points for a win.

12 Jan 2019 14:43:25
Oh do try to keep up you blert. 'Before' the West Ham game - which was when I posted - they were on 28 we are on 27 so if they lost or drew and we won tomorrow we'd overtake them and be up to 8th place on 30 points. Obv can't happen now because as I say Arsenal were awful and WH have moved onto 31.

13 Jan 2019 00:21:56
We should have gone for Pellegrini, I did say so at the time.