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25 May 2014 13:59:41
A couple of newspapers linking us with James Forrest of Celtic, don't watch Scottish footy but surely this is just media bs

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26 May 2014 09:42:02
Loic remy has got a buyout clause in his contract, anyone know how much it's for would be a good signing especially if we don't get lukaku (which I doubt we will)

{Ed002's Note - There is a release clause but it does not mean that sides will not offer a little more for the player.}

1.) His buyout clause is 8m but like ed says it won't stop clubs offering way more than that

2.) Why would anyone bid more than his release clause if they have to accept 8m?

{Ed025's Note - to get him, clubs know quite well that £8m is just the trigger quinny, it will take at least double that to land him IMO mate..

3.) Me personally I wouldn't want to spend 16 million on Remy not when there is a chance we could get lukaku for four mill moor

4.) I might be bing really thick here but if two clubs bid:
8m and offer remy 100k a week
16m and offer remy 50k a week
Remy's going to go to the first one and qpr can do nothing about it right?

{Ed025's Note - i think the club who holds his registration will have the final say quinny..

5.) If he has a buyout clause in his contract the club are legally bound to accept that offer, makes no sense for a team to offer more than that figure. Say the clause is 8m and we offer 8m, Someone else may offer 10m but there's really no point as both would have to be accepted anyway, who would really spend millions more for no reason. It's then really down to who offers the best terms.

{Ed002's Note - You don't understand how this works do you?}

6.) I'm not so sure about that Ed. IF the release clause is 8 mil and a club offers Remy 100k and he wants to go there then therd is not really much the club can do if everything has been met . Even if another club offers more, as long as the clause is triggered the club are powerless. Although I'm sure it would never get to that far as some kind of deal would be brokered I'm sure but you get my drift.

{Ed025's Note - i do mate, im just not sure that works in the real world..

7.) Bit of insight.

A players buyout clause is what it is. A buyout clause. If you match the buyout as stated in the players contract, the selling club is powerless to stop the transfer. But all stipulations must be met. For example, the majority of transfer fees are paid in instalments. So when you see player X move for 15m that will often be paid in set amounts over a period of time. It could be monthly, quarterly, annually for a sustained period. What this does is it lowers the initial expenditure. You could have 15m transfer cash sat in the bank but buy 3 10m rated players paying 5m up front for each and rest in negotiated instalments provided you have assets and can prove your income will be sufficient to pay the rest off in the time stipulated. Accountants & lawyers will be used by both sides for due diligence.

Problem with a buyout is that it often states it must be paid in a lump sum up front. So 8m would mean 8m cash now. Doesn't mean 4m now and 4m over time. Clubs will always offer this sort of deal first and it will be a game of negotiation until some sort of compromise is met. In the case of Remy there will be high demand, so whoever offers the 8m up front will trigger it and QPR are powerless. Then it's up to the player. He can only speak to a club when the buyout is triggered. Officially, he is forbidden to talk until then (although this rule is broken almost every transfer).

To sum it up, we could offer 8m for Remy up front, trigger the buyout and try and convince him to join. But remember, that 8m could be sufficient to buy a 15m rated player, paying the fee over time.

8.) Think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one Ed, in legal terms a minimum fee release clause does exactly what it says on the tin as long as it's paid in a lump sum.

{Ed025's Note - fair play gibbo..

9.) Oil it has nothing to do with that. A buy out clause is a fee that needs to be paid by the player to buy out of his contract. In remys instance he would need to pay 8m. If Everton were to give him the money to pay it, it would be counted as taxable income so would need to be closer to 10m. But if Everton did give him the money they would be charged with tapping up as QPR did not not give the club permission to speak to him.

If its a release clause which is different then they are not legally binding and only have to inform the player of interest

10.) That's exactly my point Ed. On paper the clause is triggered the club holding the players registration is powerless to stop it. On paper! But as you say, in the real world it doesn't work like that hence me saying I'm sure it would never get as far (or as simple) as a club saying "here's 8 mil and 100k for you Loric) and the deal is done. If another club offered more money a deal would some how be brokered in whatever way needed to benefit the selling club and also sweeten the player and his representatives. Clubs aren't stupid and they will ALWAYS get what's best for them regardless of a clause is what I meant. Clear as mud, right :/ lol :)

{Ed025's Note - sure is mate.. :)

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Hope so cracking midfielder excellent on the ball exactly the type of midfielder we need

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