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13 Feb 2016 23:51:23
I'm not saying Martinez isn't to blame because he shares a massive portion of the blame but surely the players need to take the blame aswell? if there as good as people say surely they should of won today? imo the players aren't at the standard people believe bar a few of them, yes Mr is silly and shouldn't be anywhere near our club but when will one of our players stand up and take charge in games such as today? teams bottled it far too many times this season.

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04 Jan 2016 05:33:25
Sorry guys but I'm sick to death of this Martinez bashing and people saying this is the best team since great years back in the day, it's not imo, the team is bang average the only player who looks remotely world class is lukaku for me, we should of snapped Chelsea's arm off at the price they were willing to pay for stones a few flicks and passes can't hide his poor defensive display, and Barkley do not get me started on him he's a overhyped jonjo shelvey which is actually a compliment for Barkley. Believe it or not I am a lifelong Everton fan but enough sugar coating round the real problem the squad/ starting 11 is about as bang average as it gets, surely I can't be the only one to think this? Sorry for the long posts let's hope we have a good transfer window lol.

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1.) 04 Jan 2016 05:56:51
Got to disagree mate. This is the best squad we have had in a long time but mismanagement is stifling them. The team will get nowhere fast if they are not organised properly at the back and RM doesn't concentrate on defence. That is evident from his time at Wigan and the last two seasons with us, when the team became his own.
Ross is extremely talented it just needs channelling, I think he should be played further up the pitch as he's no defender. I think we would see more from him with a better man manager in charge.
I'm hoping this consortium comes good and we get a bit of cash to improve the squad even more, won't be this window though. That maybe the only way we keep hold of the likes of Rom and Stones by showing a bit of ambition.


2.) 04 Jan 2016 07:51:33
We must be watching different teams then Ryan because I think we have some amazing talent and our team will click soon.


3.) 04 Jan 2016 08:51:41
This is easily the best squad in a long time, much better than the days of Yobo, Valente and Johnson.


4.) 04 Jan 2016 09:16:17
I think Muff and Ryan must be watching MOD or if they go to the game they must a. need spectacles or b. be sat behind some of the old girls pilars. The whole Squad are very good players with the exception of McGeady (Championship player at best) Kone (with him on the pitch yesterday we were effectively playing with 10 men, Howard unfortunately is out of form and has been for some time now. We finished 5th in Martinez first season and the reason for that was obvious, initially Martinez pass out from the back and tippy tappy style had Teams on the back foot but then they solved this by pressing us high and hence we played in our own half and our results started to go down hill. What then happened was either the players told Martinez he had to change (unlikely) or they took matters into their own hands and started playing more direct football (more likely) . Since then his methods have had time to embed in players Psych and that it is Martinez refusal to adapt his tactics or have a plan B that spreads doubt in players minds hence our below mid table finish last season and our heading for the same this season. In short we do have a talented Squad but Martinez either does not know how to get the best out of them or is to obstinate to listen to or believe anyone elses opinion could carry weight.


5.) 04 Jan 2016 11:22:25
we do have a good squad and apparently under performing according to most pundits. whether its the best squad we have had for a while depends on your view of a good player. we definitely have a squad capable of playing more attractive football not so good defensively though.


6.) 04 Jan 2016 13:09:17
I've posted previously that football is about understanding the threats and weaknesses of the opposition and picking a team that is best equipped to nullify the threats and capitalise on the weaknesses.
Sounds basic stuff but RM and the coaching staff don't have the tactical nouse to be able to do it.
Spurs have a very packed and good midfield which is why they controlled and created scoring chances in the first half. The way we should have set our team out was to play either Besic or Gibson, along with Cleverly, Barry and either Lennon, Mirallas or Deulofeu wide right and pushed Barkley further forward to support Lukaku.
I appreciate that will be obvious after the event, twenty twenty vision looking back, but that was my thoughts prior to the game. Perhaps I should post my preferred team prior to the City game along with my reasoning!
I share the view of my fellow posters on their player ratings but it is the job of the coaching staff to maximise their abilities into a cohesive team performance. With the technogy that's available that shouldn't be too difficult.
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