27 Apr 2016 12:04:12
Ed002.time to move on and have a mature discussion. In most organisations, especially football the manager is the figurehead and helps to build or knock its reputation. Surely the negative press we are getting about the manager press conferences and the football we play (he picks players, tactics, etc) , will play on the board. They are in it to make money and as such require a relatively successful product. If they feel it is not successful or will not be in the future then they will make a change?

{Ed002's Note - There won't be any negative press bothering the board - their focus is elsewhere and they will not react without conscious thought to simply sack the manager. They may be forced, by the fans, reaction to discuss the matter before they planned - which would be at the end of the season. They are far more concerned with much bigger matters relating to the long-term future than to be dealing with this matter right now. If forced they will but it is ill-advised of the fans to antagonize the board of teh team they support. Press conferences related to the games are not something the board will care about at all although I am sure Mr Kenwright will have a handle on what is said. The club need to take advice in order to make the right decisions. Forcing them to do otherwise could result in issues further down the line.}

1.) 27 Apr 2016
27 Apr 2016 14:57:00
Everton are a high profile Club in a high profile business, it is foolish if not naive to state that negative press from the press themselves, pundits, fans and others will not bother the board, that is a simple statement of fact. As to Martinez, some posts are bordering on the personal and that is just not right. Concentrate on the position he holds and for me whether he is a nice man or not is neither here nor there, for me he is a bad man-manager, an awful tactician but wonderful waffler, who will in my view, if allowed to remain make this Club go the way of Wigan.

{Ed002's Note - It is neither foolish nor naive.}

2.) 27 Apr 2016
27 Apr 2016 15:45:51
Ed002: I'd guess that "the much bigger matters relating to the long-term future" are to do with infrastructure - mainly the stadium and, maybe to a lesser degree, the training and academy facilities - and managing (eliminating? ) the club's debt.
It's also vital that the club stays in the Premier League and continues receiving the huge annual television money - and that's where having the right manger/ coach is surely vital.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, but those who will be investing in the ownership of the club see the much bigger picture. They will need to take advice on the footballing side as many clubs do.}

3.) 27 Apr 2016
27 Apr 2016 15:53:23
It shocks me slightly that the board would almost ignore the football side of things. Surely as a football club, what happens on the pitch is a priority as opposed to an afterthought. I agree there is so much going on behind the scenes and I would imagine Mr moshiri has other businesses to deal with.
We all need a successful product, from training complex to merchandise and most importantly a new stadium, if possible but we generally focus on the entertainment side of things, I. e. What happens on the pitch. Which is why fans are venting. Because we feel (although we are not experts) that martinez time at the club has ran it's course.

{Ed002's Note - They are not ignoring the football side and would look to deal with it on their own terms and not the terms of the fans when there are only three or four games left in the season. Mr Moshiri lives in Monaco and much of his business is done in Russia. He will be taking an active role in respect of the stadium.}

4.) 27 Apr 2016
27 Apr 2016 17:09:02
I agree Ed002. I don't think there is much difference in sacking him now or at the end of the season. Either way getting a new manager in is not going to be during the closing stages of a season.

Sometimes we all look at this as if we are running the club but it is totally different on the inside and as a business you have to be patient and assess everything before making massive decisions. Changing a manager is the biggest one relating to the main objective of a club.

I do think he will go but at what stage? I would put money on it being after the final game.

The one thing we can all have now is a bit of patience whilst this runs it's course.