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23 Jan 2017 07:49:01
One of the papers reporting we after ivanovic as a replacement for jags. Why would we but a 32 year old to replace a 34 year old? Surely someone younger would be better?


1.) 23 Jan 2017 08:45:21
Good player, can play right across the back, two years younger at this level is huge.

2.) 23 Jan 2017 08:57:19
Know what you mean, I was against fonte coming for as large a fee as he went for at 33, but Ivanovic will probably be a nominal fee with his contract up in the summer. Might tide us over if other targets aren't available at this time.

3.) 23 Jan 2017 09:13:15
What doesn't ring true for me is that Chelsea switched to the 3 at the back similar to what we are playing and Ivanovic was allegedly deemed to slow to be playing in that formation for them, so seems strange for us to be interested

4.) 23 Jan 2017 14:05:33
Can also play in front of defence, the guy is a destroyer.



31 Aug 2016 22:07:22
Seems spurs matched our bid for Sissoko.

Que sera sera.




10 Aug 2016 23:17:29
Just heard yarmolenko, manny fernandes and riquelme are all signing tomorrow. Hahaha. wonder who we will get that's out the blue signing?


1.) 11 Aug 2016 10:29:31
Heard that's only the start. Moutinho and winnie parks are set for a dead line day move.

2.) 11 Aug 2016 11:40:58
Do not forget ever banaga.

3.) 11 Aug 2016 11:45:23
Also seen Steven defour in maccys in town with rk.

4.) 11 Aug 2016 16:19:32
Ravaneli as well, he is bringing his own gas camping stove.



23 Jul 2016 10:11:00
Moyes confirmed at Sunderland. Think he'll be a good fit for them.


1.) 23 Jul 2016 10:26:37
I agree geoffjohno. I'm glad he's back with a club that's not beyond his reach. looks a good fit for both parties.

2.) 23 Jul 2016 10:40:30
Great appointment good luck to him.

3.) 23 Jul 2016 11:36:31
He done OK for us so I wish him well there, except against ourselves, obviously. Hahaha.

4.) 23 Jul 2016 11:56:53
I wish Moyes the best of luck and I am sure he will do well.
When we play Sunderland I hope the fans remember the big picture and what he did for us and give him a very warm welcome. It is time we moved on.

5.) 23 Jul 2016 12:21:52
Short memory's I can remember giving that man a guard of honour and then him taking the absolute piss out of us. Call me bitter but I'd very happy to watch him get relegated.

6.) 23 Jul 2016 12:36:46
Have to agree with browner. The man had a dead easy job (no pressure to be top 4) on megabucks, and then shit on us with his underhanded ways.

7.) 23 Jul 2016 13:00:33
I can imagine it now. After parking the bus for 89 minutes, Moyes brings on 3 defenders and Sunderland are playing a 7-2-1 formation. Cross from Hibbert, goal from Osman. Everton 0 Sunderland 1.

The next day Degsy comes on here saying "I told you that we should have got Moyes back. Best manager we ever had! Osman still has plenty in the tank, world class that lad. I was derided for my negative views but look. defensive football wins matches! "

8.) 23 Jul 2016 17:14:33
Agree with milomj it is time to move on about the ManU fallout. Personally, I will always remember the fact that he way overpaid for MF, which opened the door for us signing Lukaku. Call it doing the right thing for the wrong reason, but it really worked out for us.



03 Jun 2016 20:54:53
I know it's not us but arsenal talking to Leicester about signing vardy for 20 Mil. don't know about others but quite a shock transfer for me. Leicester did just win the league.


{Ed025's Note - i imagine that would be a fair price geoff but i would like to see how he does next year myself as he was a bit of an unknown quantity this season, his effort and work rate are very impressive though mate..

1.) 03 Jun 2016 21:19:42
Any team that get the ball to him really early will do well and Arsenal midfielders can do that.

2.) 04 Jun 2016 02:13:07
I think he has a clause in his contract stating he can leave for 20m but only to a champions league team, sure I've read something to that effect.

3.) 04 Jun 2016 09:02:35
Vardy and Leicester will not have the same success this coming season. Leicester established a momentum very early on last season and dare I say it, Teams were hesitant against them. This time round Vardy will not find the space to run into.




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21 Jan 2017 08:55:05
Just having a conversation with ed below got me thinking about last season.
I was one of the many who felt this was our best squad since the 80s and Martinez was ruining it BUT since rk has came in and I listen to him and look closely, maybe we don't have a great squad and need to improve the quality in It, which takes time.
I will give rk the same time Martinez had before judging him.


1.) 21 Jan 2017 09:41:41
I think Martinez made one signing that saved his skin. ie Lukaku. Otherwise the squad deteriorated massively. Look at my response to Ozzie below here I compare players Martinez inherited to players he left behind for Koeman. Howard, Hibbert, Fellaini, etc replaced with Alcaraz, McGeady, Robles, etc Niasse? etc see below.

2.) 21 Jan 2017 11:26:32
I think on paper the squad looked amazing but on grass it looked weak and relied on every player being consistent which they weren't.

3.) 21 Jan 2017 11:53:10
Koeman is getting more out of the same players. Look at Defense 100 times better than last 2 seasons. Is that down to the signing of Stek and Williams? I think not. Koeman is the difference.

4.) 21 Jan 2017 12:11:33
In relation to OzzieBoy's post below imho the last 12 signings listed have elements of good signings. Lukaku is the obvious one who's value has doubled pretty much. Cleverly if he leaves to Watford will get £10m when he was signed for nothing. Not bad business at all.

No question about Eto'o quality, pity it didn't work out. Holgate and Robles very decent buys for £2m! McCarthy imho was a good signing and his value has to of gone up from £13m. Besic, Deulofeu and Lennon signed for £4-5m. Even though they haven't taken off, were they bad business? I think not, Lennon has been ok, done a job on more than one occasion. Talk of £15m for Deulofeu, £10m profit. Besic if he gets over injuries could then show what he can do.

Barry imho is as good a signing as has been done in a long time. Probably the most consistent of ALL players when Martinez was regardless of who signed them. Mori at £9.5m looks like it is good enough business at this stage.

I'm not trying to convert anyone and people have their own views. I'm far from Martinez's biggest fan. Didn't want him at Everton before, during or after his tenure but he done some good.

To use good Moyes signings to bad Martinez signings to draw comparisons is not a true reading. That is skewing the truth to suit your own argument.

That comes from someone that was a big Moyes supporter and as I said never a supporter of Martinez. I try not to see things through tinted glasses and try to be a realist. That's why I can see Martinez done some good signings. Especially with the finance as his disposal.

Imho it was his tactics and all that goes with it that was more of his downfall. The City game had only 1 Koeman signing in it! Williams, people still think the players aren't good enough?

Imho with only one signing in that game and the form we are in lately is more down to Koemans tactics and style which is light years ahead of Martinez. He is on about players are needed. He is right. That is because he is talking about taking us to the very top. The highest level.

Obviously we need plenty of players for that. I have no doubt with time we will get them. Koeman, Walsh and Moshiri are bringing good times to our club.

5.) 21 Jan 2017 13:11:14
Couldn't have said it better myself NBTB, you're spot on there mate.

6.) 21 Jan 2017 17:11:23
Well NBTB. I don't want to make a ping pong arguement. so I will say I agree that Koeman's tactics are part of the improvement. undoubtedly! However Koeman wants rid of Del Boy, Niasse and according to him. a few others. I would say McGeady is one of those? Eto'o lasted about 5 games. Back to Moyes' squad: Jags 4 mill, Baines 4 mill, Seamus 60 grand, etc. won't list and list the differences. But yes I agree that the tactics are a big part. plus telling the players they are not up to it when they are not. Unlike Martinez who probably was the nicest guy ever to win the FA cup and take a team down. Suffice it to say we are winning games again. We are heading upwards and looking upwards. but I am afraid that under Martinez, I was predicting relegation 2 seasons ago and really believe with the players he had and the tactics he chose and the signings he was making, it was a foregone conclusion.

7.) 21 Jan 2017 18:11:53
Was predicting relegation when he became manager. That's why I didn't want him. I was a big supporter of Moyes because of the signings he made. He was a gem. Like any other manager there was flops also. As a whole he dug the club out of the pits when he took over. I stood up for him as much as you on here Degsy.

Of course Koeman wants rid. Players age like Barry and Jags. That's the nature of it. Personally I thought Martinez done a good job signing Holgate and Besic (young players) to replace Barry and Jags.

Plucking good a bad players from what a manager signed is not a proper debate on whether they were good signings or not. As a whole imho Moyes made better signings. I always thought that.

I also think Martinez signings aren't near as bad as some make out. Koeman wants us challenging strong at the top. With his tactics a some good additions we can. Another clean sheet today. The defense is like a totally different defense under Koeman.

8.) 21 Jan 2017 18:22:42
Degsy, you're analysis below lists a very selective set of facts and some slightly dubious ones. I never wanted Martinez and I'm glad he's gone. However, your analysis of the Moyes/ Martinez squads is disingenuous at best. As NBTB says, you've picked the best ever Moyes signings (forgetting Nigel Martyn for a minute) to compare with the full set of those made by Martinez. You've played down the good signings he made for very little outlay (Barry, Holgate and - potentially - Galloway) and ignored Mad Robbie's good points (there were a couple in the first season at least and it wasn't all down to Davie because we did better than we had ever done in terms of points that season! ) Let's not forget that as well as Cahill, Arteta, Baines, Jags and Seamus, Davie signed Richard Wright, Li Tie, James Beattie, Simon Davies, Per Kroldrup, Nuno Valente, Shandy Andy, Bilyaletdinov and Magaye Gueye for a combined fee of nearly £40 million - that must be at least £120 million in today's money. If we're going to count failed signings that cost less than a million, as you seem to want to, we can add another 30-odd players to Moyes' list. In addition to that, he had Eric Dier and Shkodran Mustafi at the club and let them go for nothing - together they're worth £60m plus now. You count Ross as a Moyes player - he barely had a first team game under Moyes! It was Martinez who brought him through (then ruined him, to be fair) . Holgate is class, Robles is coming good, can't blame him for a punt on Eto'o for free, we all thought Geri looked like a steal at £4.3m. There is no excuse for Niasse or McGeady and I was never a fan of Kone myself. Also, do you think we'd have sold Stones for nearly £50m if Moyes had still been in charge? The lad wouldn't have even got into the first team yet for the same reason he never played Ross - he makes too many mistakes. At least the Martinez hype earned us some good money there. Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to say Bobby was good for us - he wasn't! Neither am I trying to say Moyes was rubbish - I think he did a great job over the years. It's just not as black and white as it's sometimes presented here: both managers made some very good signings and signed some duds. The point now is we have one of the best Directors of Football in the business, an owner with money and a plan, and a manager who seems to have got the team fitter and more resolute. There are some real plus points - some remaining from the Moyes era, some were Martinez' doing (I know it hurts) and some are being added now.

9.) 21 Jan 2017 18:34:46
Agree coby. From 'don't get me wrong' down in that post I could of wrote that myself. As you say, as a whole Martinez wasn't good for the club. As a whole Moyes was. At the same time not everything Moyes done was right and not everything Martinez done was wrong.

10.) 21 Jan 2017 18:57:36
I agree with a lot of what you say coyb. the only thing I really dissagree with is that I chose the best of Moyes players and used them. actually I just looked up the 2013/ 4 squad and compared it with the squad prior to Koeman. So the player examples were what Martinez inherited. Yes Moyes made some bad signings. Yes Martinez made some potentially good young signings. But I couldping pong this back and say they are not first team regulars and we could goon and on. how about we forget this one and enjoy today's win. Another ground out using tactics that Martinez would never have used. that much me and NBTB agree on 100%. My main point on the Martinez debate was that when Koeman took over, he should have had a squad with mainly Martinez signings making the 1st team. He did not. He had a few Martinez signings and more ageing Moyes ones. But let's enjoy the positives hey? let's enjoy that Koeman is signing some younger players now and ones to replace the ageing ones. and giving Martinez youngsters a chance and most of all. we are winning football matches! COYB and coyNBTB

11.) 22 Jan 2017 08:49:08
Agree on that Degs! Whatever has gone on in recent years, it's what we're building for the future that matters and it's been a while since it felt this good to support Everton.



19 Jan 2017 20:01:18
Also just wanna say good luck to Antony Evans, who has joined Morecambe on loan and all the other young lads on loan. Hopefully some of them may come back better players and make moves towards the first team.




19 Jan 2017 19:58:24
Completely messed that up.

Makes me wonder if people actually watch games. First hull sign niasse on loan and now Swansea linked with kone. If I was a manager I would not even think about buying these players. I would rather play kids or look at the lower leagues for a younger player.




19 Jan 2017 19:07:36
I think ed002 may be vinny o'connor or someone from sky with his very in depth knowledge of transfers. Maybe he is jim white himself? We may never know.


{Ed002's Note - I have no idea who these people are and I have checked my passport and I am sure they are not me - nor I them. Unless I have a fake passport?}

1.) 19 Jan 2017 19:37:00
Come on Ed surely you watch Sky sports news lol

{Ed002's Note - No, I really don't watch much television and we don't have any Sport channels at home. Sorry.}

2.) 19 Jan 2017 19:37:49
They are presenters/ reporters for sky sports. Maybe you do have a fake passport or a few of them, Jason Bourne style.

{Ed002's Note - I never watch Sky Sport and I have one passport but have been thinking about changing it for a European one in recent years. I am actually likely heading toward a need to make a change.}

3.) 19 Jan 2017 19:48:51
Sounds like ed wants to emigrate to warmer climes. At least we will have all the in depth knowledge of transfers around the Costa del sol or Algarve.

4.) 19 Jan 2017 20:03:49
Just thank our lucky stars he is not Vinny Jones, hands on nads lads hands on nads.

5.) 19 Jan 2017 20:29:59
Sky and vinny o'conner act as though they are in the know. Most is guess work and trying to put 2 and 2 together. From what i've read of ed02 he would be better advising on sky because he seems to have the knowledge. Maybe he's a hackney cab driver

6.) 19 Jan 2017 19:44:50
Your not missing much anyway Lol.

7.) 19 Jan 2017 20:35:58
ED002, my apologies, I obviously misunderstood your comment on heading toward a European Passport. I thank you for not publishing my embarrassment.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you mean but respect your opinion. Maybe Ed025 intervened whist he was having the soles of his feet shaved by Ed007?}



16 Jan 2017 21:26:54
Just a thought. With the emergence of lookman and the resurgence of mirallas as well as Barkley who can play wide if required, does that spell the end of Lennon and del boy?

Consistency is the key now for us. We have shown we can compete with the best but we have to do it next week too against palace


{Ed025's Note - we will have to trim the squad geoff so they do look like 2 of the likeliest candidates mate..

1.) 16 Jan 2017 21:56:58
Agree with Ed it's invevitable that we will lose a few, especially if we are looking to bring more in. Also think Besic, Gibson and Oviedo could be on this list if they can't get over there injury problems.

2.) 16 Jan 2017 22:03:18
I agree about oviedo and Gibson going. I like besic but needs to be injury free.
I trust rk and sw to trim the squad and bring in quality players to replace them.
going to be a very interesting and exciting end to the season. Hopefully next season we may be challenging that top 6 and aiming for a trophy.




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20 Jan 2017 11:31:09
Gazzetta dello sport saying he going on loan with a view to 15m deal at the end of season. That would be a nice profit for a player who doesn't seem to be in rk's plans




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14 Jan 2017 23:12:25
I managed osmanlispor on football manager (the bible) and he was good player. Never seen him in real but Walsh knows his stuff.




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13 Jan 2017 09:30:43
Thanks ed but jeez that's the government's long winded way of saying if ya pay a fortune for him and huge wages, he's getting a work permit.


{Ed002's Note - Yes, pretty much.}



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31 Aug 2016 21:50:58
Just been announced. Welcome. Dcl.




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31 Aug 2016 09:03:30
Good luck to the kid.





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24 Jan 2017 09:05:04
On bbc Merseyside, Jimmy case is awful. His voice is annoying and he thinks Liverpool should win 10-0 every match. Also David pleats is bad and he just doesn't shut up.

Even at an old age, Jimmy armfield is still good. I also like carragher and g Neville being honest and not afraid to slag players, even ines they have played with.




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21 Jan 2017 08:52:16
Thats right ed. We need to improve the quality of player we have to move us forward.




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21 Jan 2017 08:43:33
Again I agree ed. Rk and sw will have developed a list of players they would like. It may be we don't don't get anyone of the right players aren't available. But we have a decent record of picking up bargains (Cahill, even Rom to certain extent) and young kids (stones, holgate, galloway, etc) to develop. So maybe they got some of them on their list.


{Ed025's Note - i would sooner that geoff than an average joe who will take up a squad number and be happy on the bench mate..



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21 Jan 2017 08:28:52
Nbtb and ed, I completely agree with you. The only thing is how relatively quickly the deals were done. Seemed only last week both fonte and berahino we going nowhere and now they signed.
I think our beloved club may possibly have a couple players lined up that we don't know about and may sign before the end of the window. Hopefully


{Ed025's Note - they have to be the right players geoff, its not a numbers game and quality is the key mate..



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20 Jan 2017 07:18:12
I think he having coffee in the Wetherspoons with riquelme and manny Fernandes.