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31 Jan 2018 19:35:40
Bit of a strange one. Lookman gone to Leipzig on loan.

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30 Jan 2018 16:19:37
Eds, given that mesa has joined sevilla, would we have more hope of nzonzi joining us this window?

geoffjohno

{Ed001's Note - yes.}


1.) 30 Jan 2018 16:46:50
Good player. Another midfielder but looks like besic is off to Boro and klassen out on loan, plus nzonzi got more quality going forward.


 

 

18 Jan 2018 13:39:08
Looks like naismith is off to hearts. Good luck to him. Was a decent player for us. Busy, annoying, always remembered for his hat trick against Chelsea.

geoffjohno

1.) 18 Jan 2018 16:42:11
Top bloke as well really down to earth wish him luck!


 

 

29 Nov 2017 18:01:18
Eurosport reckon its done deal. No official announcement yet but fairly certain to happen. Hope we stick a get out clause in for end of season.

geoffjohno

1.) 30 Nov 2017 02:44:53
geoffjohno - managers like Martinez, Koeman, etc., must love us - even if they fail, they get a hefty payoff, so Allardyce is in a win-win situation financially speaking whether he’s here for just this season or another one or two.


 

 

06 Nov 2017 11:55:03
Just a question but would anyone have bilic as manager?

geoffjohno

1.) 06 Nov 2017 12:09:21
loved him as a player for us and sorry that he got sacked but no.


2.) 06 Nov 2017 12:46:56
no thank you

would rather have koeman back haha.


3.) 06 Nov 2017 17:49:39
Well I would put him ahead of Moyes and Allardyce :-)


4.) 06 Nov 2017 20:21:48
Didn't like him as a player for us he was a mercenary.


5.) 06 Nov 2017 22:29:55
I am sure someone out there will have him as a manager, he’s only just been sacked so give him a chance to gather himself together. 🤣.


 

 

 

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17 Feb 2018 20:56:07
Ed2. I like You, I do. I know we have had our disagreements in the past but you have immense knowledge of the game and insight into football Working, which is great for us lowly fans BUT calling ALL everton fans toxic is a little extreme.
I know there are some fans who go o we the top on their vitriolic abuse of the club but most of us see the bigger picture and can see both sides of a discussion.
Surely there must be Chelsea fans (your club) and other clubs who slag the club, board, team and manager when things don't go as well as they Should?

I don't go on other clubs forums but you seem to sticking it to Everton and Liverpool fans from some comments you have made.

Just an observation.

geoffjohno

{Ed002's Note - I don’t write the posts, the Everton supporters do. The Liverpool fans also try to deflect by trying to make everything about Chelsea. Rather embarrassing.}


1.) 17 Feb 2018 21:18:44
I understand that ed. We do have some fans who go overboard and often write things in frustration. Just wondered if every club has fans like that or just the Merseyside clubs?

{Ed002's Note - The Merseyside club’s are worse than others - by some distance. And to be fair Liverpool are worse than Everton. Most of the other pages have a few moaners (Arsenal), morons (Chelsea) or a slightly dim support (Manchester United).}


2.) 17 Feb 2018 21:31:11
I'm glad ed. Wouldn't want it to be personal against us Scousers. Hahaha.

Suppose all clubs worldwide have their good and bad fans. Think we should just get behind the club and support whoever owns it, whoever is the boss and whoever plays for the club.

{Ed002's Note - you are very right about good and bad, but the English sides have lost the violent edge that still exists in a few countries. But when a side is struggling a bit, what they need is the fans behind them. The owners have had the fans on their backs and SA will be doing what he can.}


3.) 17 Feb 2018 21:44:40
True ed. I am glad the UK has managed to calm the hooligan element BUT still baffles me as to why other countries with huge hooligan and racist element don't get banned from European competition (Or other very strong punishment) as we did in the 80s. Uefa and fifa need to be stronger in order to rid the game of this nasty side.

{Ed002's Note - I would agree - there will be a lot watching this coming summer.}


4.) 17 Feb 2018 21:48:13
Ed002 I could hug you sometimes. I couldn't agree more.

{Ed002's Note - That can be arranged, but I don’t come cheap.}


5.) 17 Feb 2018 22:06:56
I have had my disagreements with Ed002 in the past over players and style. but I totally agree with him about the "toxic" nature of some fans. I have often stated that the term "supporter" should be self explanatory. We are supposed to support. not ridicule, abuse, slag off, constantly boo, make comments that have no foundation etc. My own personal one which Ed002 has also commented on is the way some fans constantly abuse Bill Kenwright. Anyone who has ever talked with the guy or even just listened to him talk would know exactly how passionate the bloke is. He has been accused of taking money out of the club when the opposite is obviously true. And as Ed says, some clubs would love a chairman like him.


6.) 17 Feb 2018 22:21:43
Agree over Bill degsy but not all fans will be happy with performances. We should all support the club but be able to call a spade a spade when we play poor.


7.) 18 Feb 2018 01:14:53
Mr Kenwright has strived for years to do what's best for this club when, at times, it surely would have been less stressful for him and his family to sell up and walk away. He didn't, and now his patience has paid off and we finally have someone in place with money and ambition to take us forward. It's not pretty at the moment but I firmly believe it'll all come good in the not too distant future COYB.


8.) 18 Feb 2018 07:46:26
Agree about performances Geoffjohno, but this is not what Ed002 is on about. He is on about the toxic nature of certain posters who would blame the manager, chairman or any other senior member of the club or player for anything negative with EFC. Sometimes you have to accept that things are just unlucky, unfortunate or indeed that other clubs have done better than you. It is the toxic anger that comes out and has infighting between us when we should all be supporting rather than constant criticism and almost hatred of all things Everton.


9.) 18 Feb 2018 08:58:12
I can't speak highly enough of the ED's. I'm not even sure what you guys get out of it. I'd just like to say thanks for putting up with us.

As for the club I'm grateful of Bill. He's always tried to do the right thing. He might not have had the money or the luck but put his livelihood on the line time and again.

Moshiri is learning but he needs to be more like Levy in some ways. He seems like a genuinely good bloke who's fallen in love with the club but sometimes you need to take a step back and rule with an iron fist.

Managers and players come and go. I've never been one to slate players. I'll always put my point of view across if I believe the football has been poor, formations have been wrong or if the same mistakes are being made over again.

Don't know if I would use the word toxic but there are supporters that can't accept the other side of the argument even when proved wrong (probably me) . There are supporters that are constantly negative without reason and are blinded so much that even when things are good they still see bad.

I suppose though what we are all really saying is we only want the best for the club that we love.


10.) 18 Feb 2018 09:53:47
I don't understand what you mean by "toxic" in this context. The only meaning I can derive from your response to comments is "critical" So, for example, I have said that I have not seen anything in the brief appearances of Tosun that let's me understand why he was signed particularly in the January rather than summer window. I say that because I see the January window as the opportunity to carry out urgent repairs and fix immediate problems, in our case the failure to replace Lukaku or redesign the side to play without him. In time, Tosun may prove to be an excellent signing. I hope so. However, saying that I this stage I haven't seen the signs and that I don't understand the club's behaviour in relation to Tosun, is neither toxic nor is it trashing Tosun.


11.) 18 Feb 2018 10:01:23
Good summary BJU. Perhaps people will see what Ed002 has said and you and me too. Maybe we will start using that word "perspective". Imagine being a Nottingham Forest supporter . 2 European Cups. then obscurity. Or a Leeds Utd supporter? Or even Newcastle. they are a huge club with fantastic support base. plus many others who have been in and out of the Championship/ Premiership? I still remember seeing Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea being relegated and then coming back up. We are very fortunate to have had such a long run in the top flight. Things went for us a few times. Man Utd relegated on goal difference to us. Bolton Wanderers having a perfectly good goal disallowed and getting relegated ahead of us. The Wimbledon fightback. If Moshiri keeps going with us and does not get bored, then we have a chance over probably 8 to 10 years to build a squad and get back into that top 6. In the meantime we are likely to unearth some gems of footballers, but they are likely to do what Stones, Barkley, Fellaini, Arteta, Gravesson, Lukaku and probably a few others that I have missed done. ie bugger off to a top 6 team. We have to ride that storm and keep replacing them whilst at the same time have a 10 year plan with youngsters being constantly added to. At this point I praise Baines and Coleman. because I am pretty sure they have had offers from top 6 clubs and remained at Everton when it would have been so easy to jump ship.


12.) 18 Feb 2018 10:47:38
Glennk, I don't think the toxic thing was aimed particularly at you. It is something that seems to have gained momentum and is like a mindset. Posters seem to have an agressive view that results in certain people just seeing only the negative in everything Everton. As Ed says, we are here to support and whilst we are free to comment on negative aspects, some people just seem to see only negative and nothing positive at all. I guess it is about perspective. I for one was very critical on Martinez and warned about him relying on one goalscorer and not replacing ageing players with ones of the same calibre or in the peak age group and relying on youth too much. But overall, we are supposed to support when people are trying their best to run the club. Certain people would have you believe that our manager was deliberatley losing away games for instance. that is just ridiculous. He has also been quoted as saying things which are just untrue. Bill Kenwright has been accused of syphoning money out of the club. Even Schneiderlin has been accused of not putting effort in. I actually think he has lost all confidence and is not as good as some thought. but to accuse him of lack of effort? He trains hard all week with the manager watching and he obviously thinks Schneiderlin is training hard. I could go on and on. but the pont has been made and I would now rather have debates and discussions that are real and in the words of Ed002 . not toxic.


13.) 18 Feb 2018 10:54:41
Good read Degsy,

i think you are right, No doubt you are aware we have played more games in top flight football than any other club followed by Aston Villa and then Arsenal. It is a record we should be proud of and whilst we remain in the prem no other club can take that away from us. Every game we play in the top flight is us changing the history of the game slightly and so survival must always come first regardless of how we achieve that.

At the moment we like to believe that we are the best of the rest and to some degree we are, we have had a massive blip this season and will do well to make it to 7th, if we do, that will further compound us as being just that. 7th is never going to be good enough for us but you have hit the nail on the head when you say it will always be a battle for us to keep our golden finds. It is going to take many years to break into the top 6 and even more years before we break into the top 4 with any consistency.

I strongly believe that with consistency our better players will be more inclined to stay and that in turn will help us attract the best players. (I do not mean playing style by the way as that will always be changing as we attract more managers) . With the amount of money being banded about in todays game we will always be a club that will be looking to balance the books, The £billion that Moshri has is not that great a figure compared to the monies that the top 6 clubs have at their disposal, but our spending power will also increase over the next decade.


14.) 20 Feb 2018 07:38:43
I have not read anyone accusing Allardyce of deliberately planning to lose games. I have read people saying that his selections give the appearance of prioritising some games above others. People seem to think that he does that because his financial package incentivises survival. That has been widely reported whether or not it is the case I don't and can't know. If it is then the club has made a big but common mistake in that it has incentivised something that it doesn't really want. True the club wants to survive in the league but that was never ALL that it wanted and the financial incentive offered to Allardyce should have reflected that. Nobody should be surprised that if a manager is incentivised to survive then he will make survival his priority.

As regards players and their effort, this is something that annoys me greatly. I am certain that it is extremely rare that any player does not try his best. What consitutes his best on any given day varies hugely with such things as carrying an injury and confidence. I think confidence is a huge factor in the team's performance. However, I do agree that the least that the fans should expect is that a player works up a sweat.


 

 

15 Feb 2018 15:58:50
With the big Sam situation. Think we all just need to agree to disagree and move on. No football for two weeks so need to find something else to think about.

geoffjohno

1.) 15 Feb 2018 17:25:03
I agree. I am on the fence. but talk about getting rid etc is just plain wrong when he has only been here a handful of games. No matter how bad it/ he seems. he was brought in to do a job and should be left until at least the end of this season.


2.) 15 Feb 2018 18:16:57
Good few of us have been saying that degsy since he arrived, can still see him being here next season, we will be getting close to Grumpies record of thumbs down but hey do we care, cheers mate.


3.) 15 Feb 2018 20:12:11
Fully agree Geoff.

Talking of thumbs down GB I said on one of the threads in the rumours

"Thanks mate didn't see you in live chat, hope everything is ok your end" and it got 4 thumbs down, how pathetic is that?


4.) 15 Feb 2018 20:25:05
I know mate all good here and you.


5.) 15 Feb 2018 21:15:21
I'm good thanks mate. Went back to the podiatrist yesterday got to keep the foot strapped up for another 6 weeks minimum. saves it being in a sling though -)


6.) 15 Feb 2018 22:36:15
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You guys can't help yourselves. 'Need to agree and move on'. 'I agree. I am on the fence. but talk about getting rid etc is just plain wrong. '

I also agree Geoff and I'll stick to your plan. It's a free weekend what have you got planned mate? I'm off to Roccoco for a coffee on Saturday morning with the wife. Then she's spending my money. If you haven't been to this little gem on Lord street you've got to try it. They do Nutella chocolate muffins. Delish!


7.) 15 Feb 2018 23:09:15
Is this still the Everton banter page?


8.) 15 Feb 2018 23:20:36
Working myself Saturday bud. Work not far from there tho. May try it out.
While she spending your money, should come to the old post office behind Primark. I'll be the one cooking the food but nice quiet little boozer to just chill few hours away on a Saturday afternoon.


9.) 15 Feb 2018 23:34:48
Never been happy on the appointment if I'm honest. Just think we are lucky there's at least 10 team who are performing worse than us. I think it's a win/ win for the fans and Allardyce. He gets his contract paid up PLUS his bonus for keeping us up (I think we would've stayed up with any manager as there are worse teams than us in the league) PLUS we paid off palace so he can get another job elsewhere. He's too defensive for me. And even if he does get us 7th (and possibly european football again) , a new (probably foreign/ hopefully not Silva (the new bobby) our (as if you'd believe what you read/ hear) new manager coukd out his own spin on the squad throughout the summer.


10.) 15 Feb 2018 23:38:58
What guys are you talking about BJU?


11.) 16 Feb 2018 08:05:51
I come in there now and again Geoff. It's a cracking booze. I'm sure I can convince the wife or just give her my card😉😂

Anyone that mentions Sam on this thread Grumpy. 😁.


12.) 16 Feb 2018 08:59:59
Only been two on this thread BJU but I know what you mean. But it is a banter site and people are allowed to express an opinion even if it is not the same as the majorities.

Personally I think the SA posts should of run their course by now especially with what was said on the rumours page, It would be better all round if no one ever mentioned him in a positive or negative way but some posters just can't help themselves. It's not so much the opinions, it's more about those intent on derailing threads with personal attacks or name calling that is alarming and this element has to stop.


13.) 16 Feb 2018 11:50:41
Agree mate soooooo much toxic rubbish on here these days.


14.) 16 Feb 2018 12:03:23
You make me laugh BJU. You are no different to me. We bleed blue blood. Even the scabs that form are blue. And you are just like me re trying not to talk about something Blue. Favourite song of all time: I'm Blue da da dee da da da! Laugh mate. or we will cry together!


15.) 16 Feb 2018 12:37:28
Love it Degsy. How about we laugh together mate. 😉 and you never know we might end up singing and dancing together next year!

I think I'm exhausted from this season. And whoever is there next year, Sam or anyone, it's a new beginning we'll all get excited again and maybe just maybe we'll have something to celebrate.


16.) 16 Feb 2018 12:43:20
With this being a banter site for all things EFC, I'd rather talk about that than what you lot are up to this weekend!


17.) 16 Feb 2018 14:14:48
What have you got planned Blue? I think we all just needed 5 mins break from the relentless tooing and frowing.

It'll be back to normal soon😉.


18.) 16 Feb 2018 17:54:13
And even if they self perpetuate passive aggressiveness under the banner of "not being bothered", haha.


 

 

11 Feb 2018 23:56:13
I think it is madness that after such a horrendous season like we have had, we are only 2 points from 7th place in the league.
I thought koeman and walsh got recruitment wrong in the summer. Lots of no.10's and no striker, so rk was sacked and Sam in. Again I'm very much on fence with Sam. Some good moments. palace, Huddersfield, Newcastle, but some poor moments. arsenal,

geoffjohno

1.) 12 Feb 2018 05:46:52
Fat fingers.

Some poor moments. arsenal, no shots on goals for 5 games, etc.

Every game I will support the team and hope we go as high up the league as we can. Then we can reassess and decide if Sam is staying or not.


2.) 12 Feb 2018 07:41:09
I am also on the fence about him Geoffjohno. I know I have stuck up for him at times, but that's because you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. And Martinez and Koeman created a sow's ear squad. I just don't see how any manager could improve this squad dramatically. It is defficient in many areas. It is over-subscribed in other areas. and some players that we signed are clearly not the players we thought they were. So I say give the bloke the support he needs to secure our place then let the chairman decide. I see in the rags we are to sell Keane? I also think if Rooney had not forced a return, we would now be in big pooh as they say. Yet we have spent near on £200,000,000 over the last couple of seasons.


3.) 12 Feb 2018 08:18:59
I think it is more helpful and accurate to look at the net spend.


4.) 12 Feb 2018 08:54:31
All well and good looking at the net spend Glennk, but does'nt excuse buying players that are not good enough. Beggars belief how many of them are struggling. Keane, Klassen, Cenk, Snides, that's over 100 million alone on those four. It does'nt make sense to me, also two managers got rid off, more millions gone down the swanney.


5.) 12 Feb 2018 09:22:33
leinster, i think keane will thrive once he has a steady partner, klassen will come good or worst case we will recover most if not all of his fee as he is a top player maybe just not suited to prem, to say Cenk is struggling is pathetic he's been here 5 mins, and yea sniderlain is struggling for form but wouldn't say any of them players are money wasted at all.


6.) 12 Feb 2018 11:58:30
I take your point johny but we need players performing now, after all
the only new addition that's hit the ground running is Walcott.


7.) 12 Feb 2018 14:02:58
Remind me. was it Martinez or Koeman who signed Walcott? (sarcasm)


 

 

10 Feb 2018 20:31:18
Watching napoli play Lazio and I'm amazed at how many empty seats there are in the stadium. I've noticed with a few games in France and Spain. Think the premier league is the only league to sell out most stadium each game?

geoffjohno

{Ed002's Note - Germany does as well.}


1.) 10 Feb 2018 20:57:27
True ed. Forgot them. Wa5ched a few games with pretty full stadiums. Even 2nd teir in Germany pretty full. Just wonder how the club's from France Italy and Spain (barring Barcelona and madrid) make ends meet with empty stadia.

{Ed002's Note - They live within their means. Spain’s economy is shot so it is tough for most sides.}


2.) 10 Feb 2018 21:31:13
Deutsche attendance is highly regional, Ed is somewhat correct.


3.) 10 Feb 2018 21:34:03
May have jumped the gun, assumed Ed's response was relevant to Germany. Of others I have no knowledge or expertise. I apologise.


4.) 10 Feb 2018 22:17:50
Germany also has reasonably priced match tickets and also pioneered safe standing.


5.) 10 Feb 2018 22:16:36
There are lots of empty seats at Prem games. Open your eyes.


6.) 11 Feb 2018 08:36:21
Germany have such an amazing attitude towards supporters. I think most have a ticket under £8/ 9.

I remember the chairman of Bayern saying that the money you get from seats is minimal so its not worth the 6/ 7 mil you would get. He'd rather have every seat filled.

Arsenal, chelsea and many others should take a look at themselves. I think we are pretty reasonable with season tickets. The prices for the Europa and Cup comps are very good as well.


 

 

09 Feb 2018 17:04:24
I understand both sides of the big Sam argument from below.
Playing devils advocate for a moment, the fans moaning about Sam and even those before him can point to the old Einstein quote about insanity. 'Doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results
Especially in terms of schneiderlin and Martina and Williams. I know he got tough job and I'm firmly on the fence but if he's still there at Christmas and no improvement I can see fans giving him hell.

geoffjohno

1.) 09 Feb 2018 17:46:43
If he's still there at Xmas, there won't be any fans left to give him hell.


2.) 09 Feb 2018 18:19:47
He's not for us. I want to give him a go as any manager that comes to us but I can't do it with him.

Last week he purposely chose to leave out our better players and save them for this weekend. Swansea go out there for the win against Arsenal and Liverpool and get the win. He always does this. Choosing games.

Everton don't choose games. We're Everton not Palace, Newcastle or Bolton and we compete whoever we're playing.

He's doing the same as what Moyes did but with even less justification to do so. Play down who we are as a club. It's because of Moyes we've got this inferiority complex with his knife at a gunfight crap.

I said this yesterday. We've got to get away from attending these "gunfights" with managers who are the proverbial knife like Moyes and Sam and start getting managers who are Cannonballs like Jose and Conte. And when I say like I mean managers driven to win and not bow down to whoever they play and hope for a draw.

We're better than this people and so should our manager be.


3.) 10 Feb 2018 05:24:06
We've taken a plastic spoon to a gunfight for most of this season BJU.


4.) 10 Feb 2018 08:18:48
You ain't wrong there and now we've got a lemon leading them!


 

 

 

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15 Feb 2018 15:57:45
Omg this must be the longest thread I've ever seen on these pages. Been up for a few days and it's still going mental. Think we all just need to agree to disagree and move on. No football for two weeks so find something else to think about.

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08 Feb 2018 10:24:22
He got his soccer academy. Think it's in Spain? One of his graduates pla6ed for Newport last night.

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{Ed002's Note - Right.}


 

 

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31 Jan 2018 18:08:51
I'm glad ed because I think we can do better in the summer plus mori will be back to add numbers.

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31 Jan 2018 17:23:31
I hope so but mangala never really pulled up trees at city but loan move is no brainer. Can always send him back at end of it. Do eds know of a agreed fee or is it just loan til end of season?

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{Ed025's Note - just a loan as far as i am aware geoff..


 

 

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31 Jan 2018 12:27:26
Or big Sam even. Hahaha.

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17 Feb 2018 22:21:43
Agree over Bill degsy but not all fans will be happy with performances. We should all support the club but be able to call a spade a spade when we play poor.

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17 Feb 2018 21:44:40
True ed. I am glad the UK has managed to calm the hooligan element BUT still baffles me as to why other countries with huge hooligan and racist element don't get banned from European competition (Or other very strong punishment) as we did in the 80s. Uefa and fifa need to be stronger in order to rid the game of this nasty side.

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{Ed002's Note - I would agree - there will be a lot watching this coming summer.}


 

 

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17 Feb 2018 21:31:11
I'm glad ed. Wouldn't want it to be personal against us Scousers. Hahaha.

Suppose all clubs worldwide have their good and bad fans. Think we should just get behind the club and support whoever owns it, whoever is the boss and whoever plays for the club.

geoffjohno

{Ed002's Note - you are very right about good and bad, but the English sides have lost the violent edge that still exists in a few countries. But when a side is struggling a bit, what they need is the fans behind them. The owners have had the fans on their backs and SA will be doing what he can.}


 

 

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17 Feb 2018 21:18:44
I understand that ed. We do have some fans who go overboard and often write things in frustration. Just wondered if every club has fans like that or just the Merseyside clubs?

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{Ed002's Note - The Merseyside club’s are worse than others - by some distance. And to be fair Liverpool are worse than Everton. Most of the other pages have a few moaners (Arsenal), morons (Chelsea) or a slightly dim support (Manchester United).}


 

 

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15 Feb 2018 23:20:36
Working myself Saturday bud. Work not far from there tho. May try it out.
While she spending your money, should come to the old post office behind Primark. I'll be the one cooking the food but nice quiet little boozer to just chill few hours away on a Saturday afternoon.

geoffjohno