Everton Banter Archive May 07 2013

07 May 2013 22:46:51
Hi eds just a quick question, if Chelsea were to win the Europa league and qualify for the champions league, would 6th place become available for Europa qualifying rounds? {Ed002's Note - No.}

07 May 2013 22:08:49
Can anyone list the full links / rumours?

07 May 2013 18:48:38
U21s selection looks good tonight be nice seeing lundstrem. Barkley mcAleny stones long keenedy. All in the same team together. I expect most of theses players to be in the first team next season. What a great bunch of players I say even better than Manchester United youth in the early 90s

07 May 2013 21:55:13
Sorry mate but only barkley will be in the team next season as long won't be for another 5 years mcaleny and lundstram are leaving in the summer and kennedy is quite bad

Kennedy is quite bad? How many U-21 games have you been to this season? I've been to 5 and Kennedy has caught my eye in at least 3 of them, particularly against Blackburn in Febraury. I think the lad has quite a bright future, that's just my opinion though.

BitterBlue

07 May 2013 23:48:52
I assumed that we bought hin as a squad player (like naismith) but from what I heard kennedy is the same as naismith only without any pace at all and kennedy cannot take a man on

07 May 2013 16:22:50
We're supposedly looking at Hoilett again. Hasn't been great since joining QPR, but who has? always look dangerous when he was playing for Blackburn though and I wouldn't mind seeing him with us.

Also, can people stop referring to transfers as 'Done deal'. I saw about 100 'Done Deals' in January, and we all saw how that turned out. I don't care if you're Bill Kenwright himself, Nothing is a done deal until they walk out onto the pitch. {Ed025's Note - thats true mate...its like when people say..FACT!...it actually means nothing..

07 May 2013 21:50:18
got to be one of my most hated words that gets used on here FACT lol, actally means bull****
westy

07 May 2013 14:51:11
I note that someone has posted during the banter of who they wish to go down, lots said Newcastle, one said 'I want Newcastle to go down because they do not have a history'. The Geordies have won the FA Cup 6 times - is that not in the clubs history? Get your facts correct before posting. {Ed025's Note - i happen to like the geordies...its pardew who is a plank, not their supporters..

Ed025:

Pardew really is the problem we have with NUFC.

''Operating in a different league than Everton''

When I read that I immediately thought something like ' Ffs is the space ship coming back for this mug or what? '

He may yet get his wish :)

Blue247 {Ed025's Note - he is a bit of a pot herb 247, but i hope they stay up, for their supporters sake mate..

Ed025:

Me too I (in the cold light of day of course) don't really relish the idea of them going down, no not at all.
It's the lesson in humility for AP that appeals to me.

Blue247 {Ed025's Note - and how he needs it mate!..

I have many geordie mates and have had more than a few eventful nights down big market on the dog with them. As a few people have said the problem isn't with the fans or the club itself its with that eejit pardew who thinks he's something he isn't. I don't really have a preference as to who goes down (other than liverpool if it were possible) and genuinely feel sorry for anyone who goes through that last day of the season turmoil. Remember wimbledon and coventry anyone? They were horrible days. Good luck to all the teams in the drop zone, but someone has to go.
Domo

07 May 2013 13:28:07
Just been listening to Keys and Andy Gray on TalkSh!t, they interviewed Terry Darracot, very funny. memory of the 70s, Alan Ball sitting on the ball at the corner spot as nobody dared try and take the ball off him!
Mushroom Man

07 May 2013 11:56:47
if one player provides funds for 5 other (FELLI) then why not? PKBLUE

07 May 2013 10:21:41
right on Sunday we had another ref decsion,
How many have we had go against us to the 1s for
i cank think of only of match a goodison this season for us.

But sunday
hansen handball in final
hutchinsons goal off his arse
lesscot pen
semi final handball that wasnt,

can any1 fill in what they know lol

Two refereeing scandals I can recall.
The Duncan Ferguson header against Villarreal.
Going out to Panathinaikos in the 1970-1971 European Cup.
However, there have been plenty of other refereeing shockers - especially in European competition, but also in English domestic football - where other clubs have been similarly shafted. It's not just Everton who've been hard done by - it just just seems worse because it's our club ;-)

Bryan hamiltons perfectly good goal againtst the RS in the FA semi final.
never forget it.
talk about being totally robbed.
i was there in the kippax and again for the replay on the wednesday.
totally gutted.

stewillow

Mick Lyons header at the Park End against the reds. etc There are so many particularly against them! Gerrards 2 footed lunge into Gary Naismith' chest. Retrospective ban after tv kept showing it. Nothing on the day and no good to us. All the others as listed particularly Hansens hand ball on the line in the league cup final and Bryan Hamiltons dissallowed goal by Clive Thomas. But I am not bitter. he is known as bitter blue I believe.
Degsypulford {Ed025's Note -

Swings and roudabouts like your hero fergy says it evens itself out over the season so get on with it fxxxxxx whinger

Wot about the suarez disallowed goal earlier this season

07 May 2013 09:17:58
Nothing to do with the Blues guys, just want to see what the general consensus is.

Who would you prefer to go down out of these because any of them could drop at the moment:

Stoke
Fulham
Southampton
Sunderland
Norwich
Newcastle
Wigan

For me it would be Stoke, dire footballing team who bring nothing to the prem except injuries

For me its Newcastle so Pardews famous words come true WERE IN A DIFFERENT LEAGUE TO EVERTON haha he can say that again. Stef the blue

Newcastle! Every day of the week, it amazes me how deluded their fans are. RW

Newcastle.
After Pardews comments in a diff league to us, so be it in the championship.

Newcastle, so Pardew can be right about operating in a different league too us.

Dave Tuebrook

07 May 2013 10:33:16
newcastle, I can't stand their fans, tiote and cabaye and most of all I can't stand pardew he is so far up his own a*se I hate him hope they go down, I wish stoke and newcastle could both go down but if I had to pick one I would pick newcastle

07 May 2013 10:36:21
Forgot about that Stef, I have now changed from Stoke to Newcastle.

Newcastle all day long

Of the clubs listed: Newcastle United - no two ways about it. Each of the other clubs has at least one redeeming quality IMHO, but the barcodes have delusional & fickle fans, a manager who thinks he's God's gift and bullet-proof, and it's a football club that's run by some very strange individuals, and is a club that doesn't actually have the history its folklore purports to have.

HA ha Degsy it would be comical could you imagine if they go down I would love to walk up to Pardew and say what was that you said about Everton. Stef the blue. Pardew the one season wonder.

07 May 2013 12:08:19
He is a proper whopper him Stef, I don't mind the fans that much, especially Geordie women, best accent on a women ever and may have frequented a few in my squaddie days.

He will be sacked come the end of the season anyway one way or another because the fans hate him too

Newcastle without a doubt.
deluded fans and manager


stewillow

07 May 2013 14:15:26
I suspect there may be a bit of banter between us and Geordies within the next few hours

C'mon guys i'm a newcastle fan and you can't really say we're deluded, we are a similar club to you, a similar build. I kind of agree with you on pardew, but moyes had a very good first season with you, then the next you had a crap one and almost got relegated, but now he's really built something at everton. Ask every newcastle fan and the minimum expectation they will say is top 10 and highest will be europa league. I think that's fair considering that we are quite a big club.

But its always exciting and there's always a good time when newcastle and everton meet.

But maybe pardew can build something at newcastle like moyes did, he's got an a year contract so considering he doesn't-ehm-relegate us, then yes.

I've enjoyed watching everton this season, fellaini has been brill, baines has been the best left back in the prem. Pienaar's had a decent season. Just please, don't be like liverpool fans and be all arrogant and cocky, I know you're better than them. {Ed025's Note - we are a similar club to you mate, and the fans are of a similar ilk as well, its pardew who caused the tiff between the clubs, when he said newcastle were in a different league to everton!...which you nearly are...lol...just kidding, i hope you stay up, as your supporters would be sadly missed..good luck mate..

I think there focas will be on the Wigan match Degsy, if Wigan win they drop in to the bottom 3 really nerves times for the Geordies I will be shouting for Wigan tonight. Stef the blue

07 May 2013 16:30:16
As will we all Stef, might be pie eating sheep sh###rs but still like Wigan a lot

Degsy

06 May 2013 23:39:47
hey ed I gots a question. if chelsea win the fa cup and wigan go down and opt out of the europa league. where would the spot go? to the sixth place team maybe? {Ed025's Note - no mate..

If Chelsea win Europa league they will be a spare place

How many more times does this have to spelled out?!
Everton will now have to finish 5th this season in order to qualify for next season's UEFA Europa League. As Chelsea, with their current points total, will finish in the top five of the Premier League this season and qualify for Europe that way, their winning this season's UEFA Europa League will NOT give England an extra place in next season's UEFA Europa League. Even if they had finished lower than fifth this season - which can't happen now this season - and qualified for next season's UEFA Europa League as "title holders" (i. e. winners), it would still only be Swansea, Wigan (even as losing finalists since ManCity have enough points already to finish in the top five and qualify for European competition that way), and the fifth placed team who would be the other (three) English teams in next season's UEFA Europa League. This is clearly explained in the UEFA regulations and excellently summarised in a Wikipedia article.
BlueBonnet

There's also the Fair Play rankings that could give another English team a place in the UEFA Europa League, but Everton aren't well placed in those rankings. The English teams that are well placed don't seem keen on taking a place if offered anyway - I imagine they're concerned about the detrimental effect of Thursday-night European football on Premier League form - and the small money that comes with UEFA Europa League participation compared to the riches of the UEFA Champions League.
BlueBonnet

If chelski finish 5th and win the Europa League then it goes to 6th place according to Martin Lipton on Sunday Supplement. Highly unlikely they'll finish 5th though.

Here it is in black and white:
"If the UEFA Europa League title-holders are not eligible to take part in either of the UEFA club competitions (UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League) by virtue of their domestic form, the UEFA Administration may, at the request of the association of the club concerned, admit this club to the current UEFA Europa League competition. Its participation will not be at the expense of the contingent of its association. "
So, as Chelsea will qualify for European completion anyway - by finishing in the top four or at worst fifth - their winning the UEFA Europa League won't affect the fact that England will still only have three teams in the UEFA Europa League. (The route for an additional place via Fair Play rankings seems unlikely now for an English club. )
I suggest that Martin Lipton, although not the worst football journalist I can name, hasn't done his research. If I'm wrong about UEFA rules, then it's sackcloth and ashes for me ;-)