Everton Banter Archive June 07 2013

07 Jun 2013 23:33:54
Maloney was impressive tonight I would sign him straight away he has impressed me for 2 seasons the creative force for Wigan by a mile

I also feel the same about McGeady. People may feel differently but he is what we need - pace and can beat a man. I think he'd be a good addition. Especially with Martinez's football.

I don't see the point myself as he's 29 nearly 30 we're suppose to be lowering the age of out team not increasing it further.

08 Jun 2013 09:36:17
Im a fan of maloney but he had injury problems a while ago and may come back plus he is nearing 30 i'd have him if he was free but unfortunatly he is not and as for mcgeady I think mirallas does everything better and is willing to take people on in big games whereas mcgeady won't in the cl or against the big teams in russia like zenit and anzhi they are very similar players just seems that mcgeady bottles it in the big games and also I havn't seen him do anything for ireland either

Totally agree with OP. Think we should sign Maloney as soon as we can. He has been the key to Wigans attacking football for the past couple of seasons and although he's 29 he's still got 2 or 3 decent seasons in him. He'd create bundles of chances.

Dog Puke Peter

Don't want Maloney, Alcaraz, Kone or any Wigan player for that matter. Some of them are about 30 and we need to lower the age of our squad. Wigan players simply aren't good enough for a team that we want to be challenging for Europe.

Has anyone told you they helped get Wigan in Europe and the FA Cup come to that. Your squad have won what exactly?

07 Jun 2013 22:44:43
I would like to see vellious given more chances next season, hopefully Martinez will like what he's sees in training!

07 Jun 2013 22:12:58
OK he's my admition. A couple of the Wigan players are OK And we've bought good from the championship and lower teams before. Cahill, Jags, Lescott and Baines. They got us to where we are now and I love them for every ounce of sweat they shed for us.

Whereas some of these players have turned into great ones, out of all the years of buying players of this calibre how many times have we been in the Champions League (I don't count qualifying round)? How many Trophies have we won?

Look at what Mirrallas has added and Jelavic before we went for the long ball from Jags to Fellani last season. Fellani, even though no matter how much we say we don't care if he leaves we actually really do and would. Peanuts who has helped Baines become the player he is today by giving attacking flare and confidence to go forward to his game.

So after 11 years of this why not try something different and see if we can't step it up a little. Maybe some European experience, Spanish flare, Italian stubbornness, German endeavour and even some Samba beat.

An example of what you can do:

Pedro Leon, Sami Khedira, Sergio Canales, Ricardo Carvalho, Mesut Ozil all signed for Real Madrid 3 years ago for £19,000,000. Now that is spending money wisely and being creative.

Athletico Madrid signed 7 players for less than £1m to move up to 3rd in La Liga last year.

It's amazing how when Periera was being tipped everyone suggested Porto players. Now we have Martinez you're looking at Wigan! I'm sure RM is setting his sights a little higher.

07 Jun 2013 22:38:05
You are really really boring just leave it if we sign mccarthy then get behind them if we don't then happy days for you just shut up about wigan all the time

Hey Blueskittle are you stalking me? If you don't like just don't bother reading my post. I don't bother to tell you to shut up and I allow you to have your say even though you to me sound small minded.

Ah well. I look forward to your next rant at me.

07 Jun 2013 23:31:58
I read every new post that gets posted and I scroll down so I won't see your name until after I've read it but now I know if there is hate for mccarthy (what did he kill your dog or something?) Or wigan it will mostly be you, do I want loads of wigan players? No the total opposite do I want mccarthy? No I just think he is a good player that is all i'd rather have fer or capoue etc i'd rather not spend anymore time arguing with you, your entitled to your opinion as am I and I respect that so there will be no other 'rants' from me and i'll leave it at that

07 jun 2013 21:25:16
i have followed everton for over the last 50 years. and though i think kenwright is good for the club. appointing martinez is still in big doubt. i know the some of the fans wanted him in. but he took a team down. also his win tally is that of redknap. not worth a toss, in the premiership. also martinez said he wants to build on what moyes has set as a good standard. well then we don't want rubbish wigan players in an everton shirt. they don't belong in the top flight. we need quality players like we have. if he gets his old players in. we won't finish in the top 10. raz. {ed025's note - i can guarantee a top 10 finish raz..you need to have some faith mate, and stop bloody moaning..he aint signed anyone yet!!

Red kappas spurs weren't that bad move on. stop being a boring evertonan

Remind us all again, which club moyse come from to us? He had loads of experience didn't he!! Give Martinez a break for f###s sake and get behind the guy.

In my eyes he was the least gamble out of the so called 'three managers' up for the job, everyone saying Martinez is a risk but wanted Pereira, believe me he would of been a huge risk!

TC

As everyone forgot our best player is from wigan

07 Jun 2013 17:54:46
Also I think Costel Pantilimon would be a good signing, 2nd choice this season then 1st choice after that

I'd go for that, think he is a great keeper

Is he a free agent?

No Aimar thanks well past his sell by date and will not cut the mustard in the perm.

07 Jun 2013 17:27:01
All the recent (and quite rightly) moaning about the new badge got me thinking. I remember Everton releasing a new kit in the mid to late 70's (the Bob Latchford era), blue with white trim and white diamonds down the arms. When the kit hit the sports shops it had a plain EFC as the badge but when the team photo was released the players had a round badge with the tower, the laurel wreaths and NSNO underneath.
When everyone complained (by written letter) the club released a statement in shoot magazine to say if you sent a self addressed envelope to the club they'd send you the new badge and your mum could sew it on over the EFC to bring the shirt up to date.
Queue several thousand junior blues swamping the club with mail. I got mine, my mum sewed it on and it looked the mutts nuts, along with my number 11 on the back and my rolled down white socks (in my little world I was Davie Thomas) moody blue {Ed025's Note - good stuff that mate..

Oh god! I feel old now as I remember that, my poor old mum got nagged to hell until my badge was on the shirt.

Did the Davie Thomas thing too, till a "docker" from the 5th form studded me good style in a "friendly" after that it was shin pads over being Davie Thomas!

God I remember that I always wanted to be Bob till I realised the just having a big arse didn't guarantee you were any good. An Bob was quality. {Ed025's Note - my favourite player of all time twoold..

Do you xreally xthink anyone is that bothered about the badge more interested in results

Perhaps so, but as it is the closed season, (clue being in the name) There are not a lot of results to talk about are there?

07 Jun 2013 17:09:43
Danny Simpson and Franco Di Santo on frees anyone?

People go on about our board being unambitious, but I tell you what some of our fans are even worse.

Obviously not first choice but would be good enough to fill out the squad on a free

07 Jun 2013 16:49:46
Yossi benayoun on a free anyone?

No - he's light weight and crap! Jlaff

07 Jun 2013 16:00:36
Ive been a season ticket holder since 1975, stop moaning about our new manager he is tactically better than moyes. let's be honest heitinga, anichebe and jelavic are not good enough and fellaini is too good for everton and so is baines. he will stay but felli will go we need a striker i'm glad moyes has gone.

You have been a season ticket holder since 1975, and you think Baines and Felli are too good for us!

NSNO?! {Ed025's Note - i know..it beggars belief!..

Well if you think Fellaini is too good for us you really don't have high standards of our club in my opinion he is lucky to have us, but he will leave I have no doubt about that but will regret it in a couple of years. I predict a good summer of signings and a good season next year. I will admit I was wrong about Martinez he will be perfect for us I just sense it by the mans attitude so hears to the next chapter looking forward to it.

What everton fan would ever say a player is too good for us!
charlieblue

Only a Liverpool fan would say one of our players is to good for us.

Notice the OP doesn't say where the season ticket is for? I feel a disturbance in the force Ed. {Ed025's Note - more of an invader, than darth vader wtg..

07 Jun 2013 21:33:35
Maybe the op means baines and fellaini could and should be playing for a better team and I like a lot of evertonions think baines is the best left back in the world and maybe deserves better however i'm not going to complain if he stays as I hope he does not too bothered about felli though {Ed025's Note - how any evertonian can say ANY player is too good for us really does beggar belief...sigh..

07 Jun 2013 15:29:10
Please no McGeady I'm depressed enough with Bob Martin as manager but will give him a fair crack but do not sign the above player he's so overrated.

07 Jun 2013 15:14:56
Let the fellaini bidding war commence!

How can a bidding war take place when he has a clause for a certain amount in his contract.

Its not rocket science, one team bids say 23m then another team comes along and offers more.

And why would they offer more than his buy-out? Really it isn't rocket science, they meet his release clause and he's free to negotiate with whoever is willing to pay it. For example, for those who can't grasp this, chelski bid £22m, why would Manchester United bid £23m when they only have to bid £22m (assuming that is the buy-out). The only winner is MF

Cos everton would much prefer to sell to the team offering more money?

Everton would not have that choice. If someone bids 50m then he can still go for 22m. If the clause is 22m then the price is 22m. No negotiation - it's a set price

Pod

07 Jun 2013 12:53:58
Id take Joey Barton on a free to firm up the midfield
I would also like to see Danny Graham pair up with Velios in a lethal attack
I also think Jonjo Shelvy is a steal at £8million red sh*** or not
Martinez is a class act and I would expect to win a trophy next season with top 4 season after
My Team
Given
Coleman Heitinga Distin Baines
Piennar Barton Osman Naismith
Graham Velios
ps. ed 25 you are the bestX

So 8 million for Shelvey and you don't play him lol {Ed025's Note - shelvey is awful...

Superb! You haven't lost your sense of humour and mischief.

No jags, felli, gibson, howard, jela, mirallas hope that's your plan for our B team

A red by any chance or on some top of the range wacky baccy. at least you didn't insult us and put worse has beens in like gerrard, carra and the exciting henderson

Are you a mad man? (kopite no doubt)
No Tim Howard, Jags, Felli, Mirallas, Gibson or Jela/Anichebe. Mental.
Nathan

At least never mentioned any Wigan players

07 Jun 2013 08:51:32
I reckon we could get Loic Remy for 8m
ed what do you think? {Ed025's Note - i think more mate..

Was thinking this myself today. I think he'd be a superb signing for us, and probably reasonably priced aswell.

Blue Dazzle

07 Jun 2013 11:57:04
All three of them players (Fer, Honda and Soldado) are top class, who will improve us, but there's no way we'll be that ambitious with our signings. We'll raid Wigan and buy more players (like graham) who will keep the squad at the same level, or make it worse.

You forgot the must have word for a post like that - FACT!

07 Jun 2013 11:37:31
I don't really want Negredo or Soldado as they are both 28 and will cost around £20 mil, so they will only have 2-3 more seasons in them and if we have that much money to spend we should invest it in a younger talent who can play for 10 years.

07 Jun 2013 09:48:20
we're favourites to sign aiden mcgeady

07 Jun 2013 09:11:37
We need to bring the age of the squad down so any big signings should be under 25
Out Ins
Felli 24m. Fer 6m
Heitinga 4m. McCarthy 8m
Naismith 2m. Honda 2m
Gueye 2m. Dragovic 4m
Mcmannaman 5m
Benteke 20m
Net spend 13m
Howard
Coleman jags distin baines
Gibbo fer McCarthy
Mirallas Honda
Benteke
Subs springthorpe stones hibbo Duffy dragovic Oviedo osman Barkley piennar mcmannaman Kennedy jely big vic vellios

Villa want £40m for Benteke

Don't like that team. I'd pick Osman and Barkley over McCarthy, I don't see the hype. Is it cause he had a good game in that rubbish friendly the other day? Also I fear Barkley's United bound, and has been for months

There is a belief and until I researched I believed it to that the squad is old. We actually have about the 6th youngest squad in the prem. under 29 we have Baines, Coleman, Gibson, Mirallas, Jelavic, Fellaini, Anichebe, Barkely, Duffy, Stones all in the first team squad. Distin is old and will soon need replacing as will Hibbo and Osman, after that we actually have a squad full of peak to young players so the next 3-4 years only a centre back, centre mid and wide man will need replacing due to age and age alone. Quality is what is required not youth.

Svenny

07 Jun 2013 14:58:07
No they don't dortmund will apparantly sign him for 22m if lewandowski goes

Agree Svenny but a lot of those guys didn't get much of a crack under DM I hope that will change with roberto

Quality players who will provide real competition for the established starters in our squad that's what's required. We don't need to buy a player who is only going to fill the bench week in week out if our young guns are capable enough they should be blooded via the bench. Time to show some ambition with the new signings

Im guessing the poster who wants Osman or Barkley before McManaman watches from the comfort of his living room. McCarthy outplayed Fellani in all 3 meetings between them last season.

Maybe the poster who wants Osman or Barkley before McManaman doesn't rate the Wigan player. And what does it matter where he watches from? Maybe he's had a season ticket for 70 yrs and has moved abroad and can't get to the game, does it make his opinion less valid? Seriously, there's some absolute nuggets about!
BTW it wasn't me who posted re Osman/Barkley

07 Jun 2013 08:43:52
I'm really not worried if Fellaini goes what so ever, as soon as he got good comments about him he thought he was a king and then could start relaxing because it was to easy!

We could do a lot with the money we get for him for example
Capoue 10m
Fer 8m
Kenwright says we have some money well that will be around 5m?
McGeady 4m
Lescott 5m with Heitinga going to the charity shop

07 Jun 2013 00:37:30
Baines to sign new contract
Fellaini to arsenal for 23m
Heitinga to fenerbache for 5m
Jelavic to hull for 7m
15m transfer budget plus sales so about 30-50m
Sign mcmanamin 5m
Sign honds 2m
Sign bony 10m
Sign fer 7m
Sign alcaraz on a free
Hernandez 11m
Mertens 6m

Optimisic but champions leauge
In martinez we trust

06 Jun 2013 20:52:59
What do you think of our chances of getting James McCarthy Ed? {Ed025's Note - i really dont know mate..

Let's hope its about 0%. Signing Wigans players is a stupid idea. None of them are good enough to get into our team including McCarthy. We need to look elsewhere and buy class players

06 Jun 2013 18:22:11
Ed 025, on the left hand column of these pages, where we have Rumours, Banter, Rumours 2 etc, is it possible to have a heading for *rseholes? Then that way all of us who are happy with RM's appointment, and are optimistic for the future, don't have to read the constant, negative drivel that these doom mongers are posting. One day into his tenure and some of these fellas are hacked off that Martinez hasn't won anything yet! For God's sake, give the lad a few months before we make a judgement {Ed025's Note - some people will never be happy mate..