Everton Banter Archive September 21 2013
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21 Sep 2013 23:11:47
Need lads or lasses who were there to confirm but bloody hell we look good?
Lukaku possible new Dunc?
Not sure but second half suggests we will be in mix for top 4 spot?
Not getting carried away because Baines to Utd in Jan and new Dunc back to Chelski in May!
But hey ho, a good season (and they lost, ha!)?
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Baines is going nowhere in Jan, if United would not pay the money in the summer, what makes you think they will stump up the money in Jan.
Luke Shaw will go to United next summer, Evra will do them till then.
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Slightly better than bigdunc I think
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21 Sep 2013 23:06:07
First on MOTD, without playing united?
Sod silverwear, let the season finish now!
Toffee ace
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21 Sep 2013 21:29:28
I know its too early to judge properly but what's everyones opinion on james mcarthy? Apart from his penalty mistake I thought he played class today and bossed the midfield
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I honestly didn't think that was a penalty - both of his legs are stationary and on the floor in places where they ought to be - right below him and not sticking out - looks like no or minimal contact and their lad goes for it - although McCarthy did look guilty with his mannerisms like fiddling with his nose and he didn't complain at all - it didn't look like a pen to me - he doesn't trip him ar anything - what do others think?
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I couldn't disagree more. I don't like singling out any one player as it's the Team that won us the football match but after a couple of appearances I think 15m was far too much to pay for him. We most definately could of won the game/s without him and I know he hasn't started yet but I'm just answering your question and for me for that much we definatlety could of spent more wisely ( Diame springs to mind ). Infact all of the ex Wigan players are yet to convince me. Still although I don't sound it I'm one happy Evertonian like the rest of us. Joe1878 {Ed025's Note - give the lad a break joe!...he has not played a full game yet, and is still finding his feet..
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I was just answering the question Ed . " I know he hasn't started a game yet but I'm just answering your question ". I also hope he can find his feet become a regular starter and prove me wrong but I just see it as a lot of money to shell out for another Wigan player who I saw have a few good games in the fa cup towards the end of last season. Apologies if anyone took offence but it's just my answer. Its probably too early to judge anyway, no it is too early to judge. Joe1878 {Ed025's Note - i just wish people would get over the wigan thing joe, to me it doesn,t matter whether they played for barcelona or barnet, they are our players now, forget the past, the future is what matters mate..
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Getting on my tits now Ed as well. So because they played for Wigan somehow they are not good enough? It's ridiculous, players have to start their career somewhere you know joe. I don't know whether anyone knows this but we signed Baines from Wigan, oh but of course he played for Wigan so he's not good enough is he?
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Yeah your right mate. I believe I have a personal vendetta for Mr Whealen rather than Wigan Athletic anyway. Let's hope Barnet have got some world beaters in Janurary so we don't have to call him up . again! Well chuffed with our start to the season on the other hand and no way Newcastle will be getting anything but a kick in the teeth when they visit a week Monday. can't see Fulham doing us any damage in the cup neither. Here's to the future! Coyb! Joe1878
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Leighton Baines is a different kettle of fish Bitter Blue plus he literally didn't cost us half as much, infact he was a steel and even very obviously at the time was a decent left back. With McCarthy I was just giving my answer to the question and my opinion. Again I hope he proves me wrong. Joe1878
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I can see both sides of this one. In terms of the lad cost us a lot, however, two points.
First of all as others have said he needs time to settle in, the majority of players do. let's be honest here Barry and Lukaku are exceptional in the way they have hit the ground running, in fact Barry looks like he has been with us for years.
Secondly RM sees something in the lad that in his opinion makes him worth what we paid. That will do for me, Given time to settle I think he is going to be a big player for us for years to come.
As for where he came from. what has that got to do with anything? He played for Wigan, so what? Seamus came from Sligo Rovers, No offence to them but they are not exactly Giants of world football, and it has not stopped him turning into a top class Premiership player has it? This ex Wigan thing was boring when it started, now it is just getting ridiculous.
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Baines cost 6 million at the time it was a lot for a left back and that was a while ago Macarthy is worth every penny wait and see
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21 Sep 2013 21:10:37
Baines value must have gone up 10 mil today - Moyes you melon you could have got him for 15 or 16 probably in the summer instead of that ridiculous bid of 12 - now you're looking at 25 for a guy who can do that
Man city, Madrid and host of other clubs won't let Man United have him for less than that!
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I don't think we would of sold him for 15, 16 in the summer mate. Even then he was worth 25m +
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21 Sep 2013 19:40:16
Lukaku whoooaaooh lukaku whoooaaooh he comes from Stamford bridge he calls himself the fridge
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Love it
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21 Sep 2013 18:44:56
Blimey some f the half time posts are negative. amazing. In any case for numerous reasons today I was forced to listen to the blues game and watch the reds with sound off. people complaining about blues in first half. trust me the reds have spent far more and IMO were well outplayed today by the saints. Everton came from behind twice to win the game. second half sounded like it was all everton, and tbh first half was even. I reckon rm has got his tactics all spot on with the players. He's basically told last years guys. Clean slate I'll give you all a crack. but I think jela will be on way in January. I for one am delighted with rm so far in every aspect of his mgmt. much to my surprise.jcl
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21 Sep 2013 18:20:49
and on we go.
it was great to see luka score on his debut and wonderful performance from bainsey. I think as the season progresses we will get better and more solid as a team.
i'm not counting my chickens but I can see us top 6 at least this season and if the gods are with us a trophy as well
coyb
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21 Sep 2013 18:17:40
Ed, sorry I got it wrong I said 0-3, you 0-2. I was right for goals scored, you were right lukaku scored. Oh we won 2-3 and the only unbeaten side in the to flight. Happy days are away days when everton win and liverpool lose.
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21 Sep 2013 18:01:58
Lukaku comes off at end after scoring the winner with a head injury. No worries, he'll go into a loo roll his sleeve up and hit those 'alien buttons' on his wrist for self medication.
Yes the PREDATOR has arrived!
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21 Sep 2013 19:36:44
Ha ha, said he was the spit of predator too a few weeks ago mush, also dare I say it, we could be first on MOTD
Why i'm here does anyone know why I keep getting signed out, i'm on an Ipad if it helps
DEGS {Ed007's Note - Are you clicking the 'Remember me' box?}
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21 Sep 2013 17:51:15
How I love weekends like these. Everton win away and Liverpool lose at home. My beer will taste sweet tonight.
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Sweet
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21 Sep 2013 17:42:38
Great win today and so encouraging to see RM make changes at half time when there's still plenty of time. I knew Naismith would secure his place in the starting line up today after scoring v Chelski but once again he has reminded us all he is mediocre and after today's appalling performance I hope he goes back to warming the bench. As for Lukaku he is immense although I expect he may be rested for Fulham which is ok because the one player I want to see on the pitch is Deulofeu. I know it's horses for courses and there has to be a balance of defensive and skillful midfielders out there but the kid is astounding - get him involved. Otherwise not a bad performance from Baines today!
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Ye made up he didn't wait till 75mins like we was doing last season to make a swop, you playing bad get off the pitch, changed the game completely
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21 Sep 2013 17:32:22
Great win, Lukaku and Baines world class and 4th in the league. Up the Toffees!
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21 Sep 2013 17:20:28
Please please please bill, take every penny you got for big top and offer it to chelsea for Lukaku, might not be enough, as there not totally broke, but at least go for it!
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Chelsea fans are very, very unhappy he was allowed out on loan; he will not be sold to us.
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21 Sep 2013 17:14:12
And Barkley was moved up front again and made the difference. I won't say I told you so.
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21 Sep 2013 18:35:25
He wasnt moved upfront he played behind the striker exactly were he's played all season the difference was in the 2nd half he had a proper centre forward just ahead of him and he got some service.
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I think Baines and Lukaku made the difference.
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You can't because he wasnt
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21 Sep 2013 17:05:49
How about that, Blues? The only unbeaten team in the league and 4th, at least for today. Yep, this calls for a celebration. I'll have 3 Chang beers with my fray bentos tonight! COYB and now, more than ever, in RM we trust!
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My my. 3 Chang beers and a fray bentos eh? You really know how to celebrate.
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21 Sep 2013 16:58:30
Posted at half time at how poor we were, but that second half was as good a performance as I've seen from the mighty blues, great changes by Bobby, both in players and tactics, not afraid to take risks, Lukaku is sensational, power, pace, touch, bravery and an eye for goal!
Great to see us go for it when the chips were down! and as for Bainsey, nothing I can say. Legend!!!
Kurajan
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I bet you boo the players if they don't live up to your expectation's eh Kurajan, and I mean after the first 5 or 10 minutes.
Ste 1878
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22 Sep 2013 05:13:00
Do you even know what your talking about, cause I don't? Take your head out if the sand! We were terrible in the 1st half and sensational in the 2nd, I have and always will call it as I see it, you sound an awful lot like the red supporters do when they play bad,!
Kurajan
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21 Sep 2013 16:58:14
Interesting question. If you could take the table as it stands now, would you? This would mean champions league football for Everton, at the cost of a Liverpool championship win, with the added little sweetener of Man U finishing 7th and Moyes been shown the door at Old Trafford. It's a tricky one!.
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How can it be a tricky one we would be in champions league could not care less who wins league it's a no brainier apart from you let us know when you come to your decision
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Not a chance on this earth do I ever want to see them lot win the league again, so it's a big NO from me.
Ste 1878
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I would turn the league upside down. That way the sh~*t finish bottom
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Agree I would take that too
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21 Sep 2013 16:39:56
I love Leighton baines!
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21 Sep 2013 15:52:14
600 passes and 1 shot on target says it all
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21 Sep 2013 15:51:52
so far so bad! not impressed were getting pressed all over the pitch we look tired, Osman and jelavic off kone and lukaku on and just go for it otherwise we won't get anything!
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21 Sep 2013 15:49:35
im really losing my patient wid jelavic he is awful absolutely awful he's no help to the team flip me just try and hold it up at least. terrible
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21 Sep 2013 15:42:15
We are not shooting enough! Poor in my opinion!
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21 Sep 2013 14:27:57
Wow! I can't remember when we had a subs bench that talented & strong! Bet the WH fans aren't looking forward to this one! COYB!
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21 Sep 2013 12:48:57
Ross Barkley plans to heed the advice of Steven Gerrard, ignore any 'big hitters' that come calling and remain at Everton. source tv.
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21 Sep 2013 10:47:52
Facts about our season so far.
Played 4 Prem games
Average attendance - 36, 222
Shots on target - 22
Shots off target - 44
Hit woodwork - 2
Fouls committed - 41
Offside - 14 times
Corners won - 29
Man u
Shots on target - 22
Shots off target - 34
Man City
Shots on target - 25
Shots off target - 33
Doesn't look like we are doing too bad so far! Found the stats in the Daily express midweek if they can be belueved, but we were right at top of table. We were 9th on average attendance. Spurs 10th.
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21 Sep 2013 11:34:20
Im going for 3-0 today blues with Ross, kev and lukaku scoring. Also I feel we finally have a starting 11 with no weak points and also a great squad to compete for Europe . Don't know about you lot but I've got a great feeling about this season
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21 Sep 2013 11:07:39
I expect Jelavic to start today and Lukaku (and maybe even Kone) to be on the bench. For the midweek cup game, I expect Jelavic to be rested/rotated. Just a thought, but what do I know?
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21 Sep 2013 08:42:09
Not to honk my own horn but I do believe I said Barkley will have a breakthrough season . :)
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Like every other everton fan has been saying for the last 3 years.
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Wow! How amazing that you were the only one to see this. Since you can blow your own horn, I reckon you can now stay at home and not go out ever again. I also suggest that the Eds set up a new section called "stating the bleeding obvious" for all you clairvoyants out there.
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I'm just glad you're right Wezz
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21 Sep 2013 06:35:29
Got a feeling Lukaku will be on bench at start today due to lack of matches behind him.
Great shame if so, alternative tactic. give him the first 30 minutes, win the game at 3.30 and have an oxygen mask ready on the touchline.
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I think he will start mate.he will be champing at the bit to get goin.
i say " unleash the beast!
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Looks like we have some genuine competition for places as long as injuries and suspensions aren't too bad.
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Also he did have a full pre-season with Chelsea so shouldn't be far behind.
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21 Sep 2013 11:52:20
I agree with Mushy myself, think he may come on as a sub but with RM ye don't know, only got odds of 5/1 for Lukaku last goal aswell, stingy bookies or what
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21 Sep 2013 13:41:13
Release the Beast? Not sure about that one, I did that in Asda last week. in court sometime late November!
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, yes mushy.
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21 Sep 2013 00:52:18
little annoyed reading how gerrard has advised barkley to stay at everton for his career the club he loves and become a legend simply for the fact I love hating gerrard but that statement kinda makes you think mehhh he's not so bad. who am I kidding he's still a right person but nice to see ross is learning from him and taking his advice as although we all hate the little so and so he's world class and ross can learn a lot from the ****
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Dave Hickson against Manchester United on 14th February 1953, four days before my 14th Birthday,
Mike
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Aah, the magic of the FA Cup in the good old days when it was a respected completion - and a giant killing to boot. Plus it's a goal from just about the greatest Evertonian there's ever been.
Nice memory that, Mike.
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The question was at GOODISON. Sharpy's goal V RS was at Analfield.
Theres too many to mention, even Manny Fernandes goal V Manchester United was one of the best strikes of the ball ever.
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One thing you have to admire with Stevie g is that he has been very loyal even though he is never going to win the prem title he remained at the club he loves and if he gave that advise to Barkley then I'm grateful for him doing that
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