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10 Dec 2018 08:58:11
Paper talk: Star says Barcelona are monitoring Richarlison. I would guess every team in Europe is. Any knowledge Ed001/ 002? Is there any real interest? I would think a front 2 of Kane and Richarlison would be unstoppable. Well I would hate to have to try and stop them!

degsyp

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest in Richarlison being expressed by Barcelona at this time, but it is fair to say that they are looking to replace their attacking players over the next 18 months or so. But right now they have been looking at other options. Melero being at a game was to check on Gomez. Perhaps he went back to spain raving about Richarlison, I don't know.}


1.) 10 Dec 2018 11:22:39
It's the star reporting this, says it all.


2.) 10 Dec 2018 12:47:04
Is it me or do these stories seem to come out the day of every game we have. pickford, gomes and now ricki. in the space of a week and a half. Will have no players by January at this rate.


3.) 10 Dec 2018 16:44:06
Take them with a pinch of salt Jacamo, will step up a notch with the transfer window approaching.

If anything is going to happen, it will happen between Everton and not the rags.

We will be linked with all sorts of strikers, mainly because the rags know we need one and throw enough strikers around, law-of averages say they might get one prediction right, nothing more than click bait and selling columns in the rags.

Enjoy tonight’s game Jacamo and don’t worry too much about what you read.

{Ed025's Note - your spot on bignev..


 

 

18 Nov 2018 07:37:47
Pickford to United apparently? If DeGea goes.

degsyp

{Ed025's Note - cant see it degs...why would he downgrade?.. :)


1.) 18 Nov 2018 08:31:44
The way the team are starting to play a lot more name are going to be linked with other teams like Ed says it's a backward move for him.

{Ed025's Note - it will be richie next penysarn, well im afraid poor old everton dont need the money anymore..so shove it..


2.) 18 Nov 2018 11:18:53
Yeah degsy mate read that they would offer £60 million in their dreams mate, couple that with all the Mourinho rubbish going on at the mo, United are now a team in turmoil as Ed 025 says why would he go and drop to a lower club no chance, pipe dreams Mourinho has lost the plot.


3.) 18 Nov 2018 08:52:46
But Eds it's in the sun paper so it must be true haha :)

{Ed025's Note - dont even mention that scumbag paper around me penysarn, i hate it with a vengeance mate..


4.) 18 Nov 2018 17:08:57
It's really up to us, players want to win trophies in their short careers. If we start winning cups and get into Europe on a regular basis then the best players will want to play for us and stay. Stay in mid-table then we will lose our best players to more successful teams. Interesting that three of our ex-players played for England today, Dier, Stones and Barkley.


5.) 18 Nov 2018 18:32:39
Richarlison to Chelsea for £70m 😂😂
I love the international breaks 🤦🏻‍♂️.


6.) 18 Nov 2018 19:03:25
Should know better by now with the rags-or sky pundits, as soon as Everton show promise or a challenge to the sky darlings, the papers will do anything to link Everton players to one of of the darlings, to try and disrupt the good work done by Everton.

With the derby and the City games approaching, do not be surprised the Silva dispute being dragged up again in the press.

{Ed002's Note - The papers have nothing against Everton and are not trying to disrupt anything.}


7.) 19 Nov 2018 09:06:17
not everything is an agenda against efc, this happens with every club that has a few players playing well, they look at what the 'big 6' need and plug the gaps, see tarkowski in the summer, linked here there everywhere as he was playing well, in reality these sides probably didn't have a strong interest.


8.) 19 Nov 2018 09:59:43
Good comment mate.


9.) 19 Nov 2018 14:00:02
Liverpool and Chelsea have both spent over £70m each on new keepers, neither of whom are as good as Pickford IMHO. Add to that he's English [always ups the price] and has only just signed a 6yr deal and you're talking of a fee up around £100m Utd aren't going to fund a deal of that size without the guarantee of Champions League football and they're miles away from that this season.


10.) 19 Nov 2018 18:18:38
They would all leave us, first chance they got 😂😂😂.


 

 

25 Oct 2018 08:27:18
Thorgan Hazard being linked to us.

degsyp

1.) 25 Oct 2018 11:06:00
i would do a little dance if we got him mate top player.

{Ed002's Note - The interest of Everton was when Sam Allardyce was manager and before Everton added to their collection of left wingers with the return of Lookman (who was expected by SA to be leaving), Bernard and Richarlison (and not forgetting Henry Onyekuru). Everton do not need another left winger right now - they need another right winger and that is why Jesus Corona has again been scouted.}


2.) 25 Oct 2018 12:28:32
Love it when we report a rumour and Ed 002 comes along and destroys it with a fact, and a logical basis for it too.

{Ed002's Note - There is no doubt that he is a very good player (and attracting the interest of a high-profile side) but if Everton were to look at yet another LW it would have to lead to questions being asked. Right now cover for AM and RW would seem to be the highest priorities.}


3.) 25 Oct 2018 20:03:53
Is Lozano a player we’ve looked at for RW Ed? I saw today that Chelsea are interested in him.


4.) 25 Oct 2018 20:03:53
Is Lozano a player we’ve looked at for RW Ed? I saw today that Chelsea are interested in him.

{Ed002's Note - Yes he has been looked at, but realistically there is an issue with Everton looking to PSV for players and there are other sides interested.}


5.) 26 Oct 2018 08:21:16
RW must be a high priority? Why? I’m sure Bernard, Lookman or even Richarlison can play as a RW?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, many players can play out of position. Let's hope the club stop looking at RW and buy many, many more LW players.}


6.) 28 Oct 2018 06:52:24
I am sorry I posted now (not really) . In all seriousness, if we are looking to play Richarlison in a more central role (which I believe is the managers possible tactical idea with him) then that then leaves us a little weaker in numbers although at the end of the day quality is always better than quantity. It was just a rumour I picked up and had no basis other than that. Thanks for info Ed002. What will be will be.


 

 

18 Sep 2018 11:48:50
As the post mortem on Saturday seems to be continuing I thought I would add the simple truth: TOO MANY CHANGES! Yes it is complicated, but the facts are simple. We have changed too many things in such a short time. I am not blaming the manager because I feel he is taking us in the right direction. But we have been a victim of: 2 sending offs. and thus suspensions. Injuries to 7 1st team players. Players coming back from injury who the manager feels should start. Young players trying to force their way into the team. Tactical changes. All of this adds up and the team that played Saturday did not look like the previous weeks team and that one did not look like the one before that etc. We need to get our players all back and let the manager pick the same team for a few weeks running. Then we will know what our squad is really like. We have been very unfortunate on a number of issues, but compare it with last season and the run of games that bored us all to death. We are a WORK IN PROGRESS. Anyone who expects instant success is just being silly in my view!

degsyp

1.) 18 Sep 2018 14:52:29
Well said work in progress the summer was good business but people have to remember it was his first window and we probably shifted a lot more out than I though we woul be able to and made signings I didn’t think we could get.
A lot of Silva/ Brands signings have not played much yet and some not at all, I just hope Mina can be are powerhouse at the back as I think it will help Keane, holgate and zouma better we need a leader back there, we got bullied on Sunday.


2.) 18 Sep 2018 17:06:25
What is worrying though is Zouma and Gomes are on loan, while Mina has a buy back clause in his contract, that’s three players we have no control over.

{Ed002's Note - There is control over Yerry Mina - "buy back" clauses do not m,ean that Barcelona can simply pay Everton and they have to send him back. Plus, given the outrageous price Everton paid for him I don't see any chance of him going back in the short to medium term.}


3.) 18 Sep 2018 17:53:10
Excellent post degsy mate, too many managers on here, once we get the injured and suspended and settled in with the newbies we will climb the table, give the guy a chance this won't be fixed in 6 months.


4.) 18 Sep 2018 18:48:21
I'm sure ed will correct me but isn't the buy back clause about twice what we paid for him so something about 70 mil I for 1 hope Barcelona wish to try to use it because if he's playing good enough to warrant that fee it will be good for us.

{Ed002's Note - It is rather less than 70M in whatever currency you are thinking, but it is nothing to worry about, nor nothing to even think about. I would not think they would be interested when Everton come to sell the player on.}


5.) 18 Sep 2018 18:53:37
Cheers ed.


6.) 18 Sep 2018 21:45:06
On Gomes, I believe Barcelona wanted permanent deal before agreeing to loan, so even if he is successful we probably will be able to sign him. Problem is if other teams come in for him. Zouma may seek permanent transfer after seasons end. Depends what Chelsea can off in terms of 1st team football.


7.) 19 Sep 2018 17:13:37
I’m probably late to the party on this but if the penalty is a point deduction then what is the maximum number of points that can be deducted?

{Ed025's Note - i dont know to be honest CT..


8.) 19 Sep 2018 17:50:41
Thanks Ed. Sorry I realize I posted this on the wrong thread.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..


9.) 19 Sep 2018 18:05:53
Again I may be wrong but if memory serves me right didn't Luton get docked 30 pts for something along these lines many years ago.

{Ed025's Note - dont say that james...i was thinking 2 or 3..


10.) 19 Sep 2018 20:09:23
It was bugging me so had a little look into It they were docked 30 pts but 20 were for insolvency problems
That was added to 10 points they were docked for illegal payments to agents so hopefully worst case 10 pts.

{Ed025's Note - still far too much james, it would be hard to recover from a 10pt deficit mate and the pressure of being rock bottom hard to overcome....slap on the wrist im hoping for..


11.) 19 Sep 2018 21:25:04
Same here ed but I can't help but fear the worst at some point they will make an example of someone and with the previous we have and the other ongoing issues I feel we could be the example I just wish that it wasn't going to drag onto the new year and I hope it's given the club the jolt it needs to get things in order and start to do things the correct way.

{Ed025's Note - lets just hope they give us a hefty fine and warn us about our future conduct james, im sure our legal team can bribe the panel as it wont be the first time a brown envelope has passed their way mate.. :)


12.) 19 Sep 2018 22:54:06
Well we were also the honorary (and one of very few) recipients of the retroactive diving ban. So I’m sure we can expect something great.


 

 

08 Aug 2018 13:40:50
Drinkwater now linked. Would be great for us.

degsyp

1.) 08 Aug 2018 13:54:37
He's slower than a slug. Do we need another slow midfielder?


2.) 08 Aug 2018 14:49:18
Not exactly the powerhouse box to box midfielder that typically plays in Silva’s systems is he?


3.) 08 Aug 2018 15:32:09
He can do the Shnieds job much better great sighning.


4.) 08 Aug 2018 17:20:38
He's been terrible for Chelsea when he's managed to get on the pitch.


5.) 08 Aug 2018 21:13:56
Had one good season next to Kante but nothing since.

I would like him to do well being an English player and this is the sort of player that we could attract but I don’t think this wasn’t another case of Chelsea ruining an English player, he just wasn’t good enough in the first place, not for us and certainly not for champs league and title contender team.


 

 

 

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11 Dec 2019 13:17:02
How about Moyes as number 1 with Dunc as his assistant with a progressive plan to promote Dunc to number 1 in the next couple of years?

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1.) 11 Dec 2019 13:39:45
Getting Moyes in to even clean the toilets is more embarrassing than losing to Liverpool 5-2.

Someone please wake me up when this nightmare is over.


2.) 11 Dec 2019 14:12:02
no thanks.


3.) 11 Dec 2019 15:26:10
Big no. he walked out on us, tried to take players with him, sacked from every club after he left.


4.) 11 Dec 2019 19:35:34
I nearly fell into the we did ok with moyes but what we really did was sit in relatively cushioned, no chance of any higher doubtful we would go lower trap. Moyes idea should be binned he got lucky with us, and has not justified a job back here at all, his departure a well trodden path won't go down it, but if we can recreate the chelsea form against utd, it won't matter win loose or draw as we can see passion, commitment and a desire to win, not the wimpy wet lettuce stuff offered by Silva. Big dunc can handle being thrown in the deep end he is tall enough to hold his head above it all.


 

 

09 Dec 2019 12:47:29
Been saying a while we are too slow in defence with Mina and Keane together. I notice Keane had the quicker Holgate alongside him at the weekend. Just saying!

degsyp

1.) 09 Dec 2019 13:33:48
Keep saying it Degsy, It's true .


2.) 09 Dec 2019 15:07:36
I agree that there isn't enough pave with Keane and mina, but let's not forget Holgate also started the 3 previous games.3 losses and 9 goals conceded.


3.) 09 Dec 2019 16:17:00
Yes he did ToffeeDavey but having two tractors along side you is probably too much.


4.) 10 Dec 2019 09:09:24
everone knows our centre halves are too slow.


 

 

03 Dec 2019 09:38:58
All the talk of Moyes/ no Moyes. other managers. I really think we have a problem within the club. We have made knee jerk reaction decisions since Moyes left. Martinez in and out. Then Koeman sacked after a terrible transfer window. Unsworth given temp charge then him removed to bring in Allardyce then Silva. If you look at the bad times within this period, they followed bloody awful transfer windows. We had opportunities to bring in young players with basic ability and to develop them. But we often went for established players that other teams had decided they could do without. During this time, we praised the youth squads . yet precious little talent has actually made it to first team and secured regular play. Added to that we have released players who have gone to other clubs and performed as well as the ones we have developed and kept or as well as ones we paid £20 or 30 mill for. This is all too much change in a club that needs stability. Look at Leicester City. They have brought in 2 or 3 players each window and the standard of those players has been much better than ours. I don't know how we sort it but we did seem to have that stability under Moyes. I know he riles some people including ED025. But I honestly thinbk we need to get back to basics. I also remember someone else said. during Moyes time. imagine if he had money. Well maybe bring him back and give him the dosh. He must have an idea of some of our squad and he must have an idea of what we need. It appears that the current management do not have that idea.

degsyp

1.) 03 Dec 2019 09:52:44
Do you think the club has lost its identity?


2.) 03 Dec 2019 10:07:02
Personally I like Dyche as a realistic option, but I hear what's been said here. Most of Moyes crap signings were due to lack of funds available but he also bought a lot of very good players in at a good price.
Howard, Baines, coleman, jags, stones, Lescott, Neville, Cahill, Arteta, Graveson, Pienaar, Yak, Saha, Fellani to name some. Plus we also made a lot from selling a few of these on at big profit as well. We played some really good football when we had the better players under him as well. I know it wasn't always good, there were rubbish times as well and he upset a few when he left but surely we are adults and can get over that 🤷‍♂️

I'd rather Moyes than Silva for sure.


3.) 03 Dec 2019 12:00:06
Moyes over Silva any day for me bunkbeds.

And Hugo I'd say we have lost our identity but I'm not sure Moyes alone will bring that back. We had different scouts and coaching staff when Moyes was here. They brought in good young talent and kept the side defensively sound. We'd always be up there in the top 3 for least goals conceded.

I feel really lost as a fan at the minute, I've always been really optimistic but right now I can't see a way of things getting better.


4.) 03 Dec 2019 12:20:45
Moyes had talent at Manchester United and unlimited funds and yet failed. He has pretty much failed to impress at every club since he left us. No doubt he would improve things verses Silva but not sure if he is the answer long term.


5.) 03 Dec 2019 12:45:24
Don’t think Moyes had unlimited funds at United in fact I think the flaw was Woodward was inept at dealing in the transfer market and they wasted too much time trying to prise out fellaini and Baines from us
He had an ageing squad that scraped over the line the season before and I think only Mourhino has had a better record than him since Ferguson
That’s not to say bring him back but it might make sense until the end of the season
I feel we have lost identity and are a very confused club, we brought in Brands to create a more sustainable system then it seems shackled his ability to do his job
We need a manage that’s going to get the team playing for him that will be hard to beat
I’d give up the pretty football right now for a run of wins!
However comes in also needs to understand we are the people’s club and what that means.


6.) 03 Dec 2019 13:06:17
So what's the excuses for Real Sociadad, Sunderland and West Ham?
I liked Moyes and do think he did some good things for us but we won nothing, he has always won nothing and second comings are never a success.

Sorry but no thanks for me,

Whether he is better than Silva is irrelevant. If we think Silva isn't good enough then getting someone who might be a little bit better isn't good enough.


7.) 03 Dec 2019 13:41:12
Bluemike! Moyes failing at Utd is a myth. He was not fired due to failure (look at his stats) . He was fired because their supporters were the same on him same as ours were on Alardyce.


8.) 03 Dec 2019 13:51:33
Yeah I kind of agree with that BW but I don't think I can bare Silva until the end of the season (I genuinely think relegation is a possibility) and I don't want the club to go all out for someone who is available now or they could get mid season.

Already this season is over we need someone to take over until the end of the season and start looking now for someone else long term. Its like the Koeman situation all over again.

{Ed002's Note - One of the problems of changing mid season is that there is less chance of getting a preferred option. If Everton look to make a change now it would make sense to put DF in charge for a while, but I suspect it will be Moyes.}


9.) 03 Dec 2019 14:21:16
i honestly think if we were to keep silva and hate saying it we could go down problem we have got even if we were to decide change now who do we get that could turn us around and get us back up the table not expecting miracles but il be happy with top 10 finish this season.

{Ed002's Note - The main advisor to Mr Moshiri has recommended Marcelino to counter the option of Moyes.}


10.) 03 Dec 2019 15:11:40
I’m not saying he is for me I’m just saying his results weren’t that bad and that he didn’t have loads of cash to spend
Problem for me is i haven’t a clue who would be good for us
Do we stagnate with an interim manager until the summer?
We don’t really look an attractive prospect or seem a top job
It’s a sorry state of affairs! We need to clarify where we are going and some identity
One thing from the recruitment Moyes and Kenwright did, most were a good fit for the club even if not the best players out there iron expensive.


11.) 03 Dec 2019 19:14:40
All this talk of Moyes just shows how desperate some have become. He did well on a budget here for a chairman who had no plan to get into the top 6 on a regular basis because of the cost needed. Moyes showed his colours when he went to Man U. He cannot handle big players or attitudes. If we have any hope of getting into the top 6 we will eventually require some big players to give us the help we need. OK they might well have seen better days but the experience they will bring that can be passed on to others will be invaluable. They will also bring big attitudes with them. Moyes will once again be shown up for the inadequate stubborn man he is. Moyes, Brexit, Election. Can't wait until they are all put to bed once and for all.

{Ed025's Note - im with you nick..


12.) 03 Dec 2019 19:38:31
Has anyone considered Pellegrini?

{Ed002's Note - No, that is not going to happen.}


13.) 03 Dec 2019 19:39:41
Silva has shown, like last season that he can turn our form around. Now I'm not saying keep him or get rid but injuries did for him last season and to some extent has done the same this season.
There have been glimpses this season, city, west ham and leicester. Now Bernard is back, Delph shortly and Gbamin at some point in January and we won't be relegated. Brands will have to loan a couple to add to the squad and I can see Kean playing quite a bit the 2nd half of the season.
Our form will get better when the above happens and for me we need to just get to the summer and get rid then.
Unless by some miracle a manager so good becomes available.


14.) 03 Dec 2019 20:01:37
I wouldn't have a problem with Marcelino, one of the better if not best bits of advice Mr Moshri has received. Question as always is how those from abroad adapt.

{Ed002's Note - Better than the English moving elsewhere.}


15.) 03 Dec 2019 20:29:30
My initial post wasnt really saying we need Moyes. it was more pointing out the way he brought through youngsters and signed players that we were/ are still picking (Seamus when fit and up until last season Baines) . my point is he did the 2 or 3 in every window and whilst not everyone made it. most did and we wheeled and dealed. We made profits and worked to a budget. The last few managers have had almost a different set of rules and money to play with. We have moved from shopping in Lidl to shopping in M&S. yet players are not performing and the team is not playing as a team. We had windows where we signed too many left sided players after previously not signing any. Then this season we needed a couple of center backs and signed Mina who really is too slow for the Premier league. I honestly don't know who chooses which players we sign but it is going wrong these last 3 or 4 windows. It caused Koeman's sacking. It caused us making a huge average squad and a group of players that I can't see gelling. We still need a center back or two and a center forward. My use of Moyes was really to say we ran things differently then. yes we have more dosh, but we seem to be chucking it at established players that other teams deem not good enough or they wouldn't let us have them. In Moyes' time he regularly looked at the teams who got relegated or League 1 clubs players and identified the up and coming youngsters. Who was the last up and coming youngster we signed from the likes of these teams? Only Richarlison springs to mind and we had to pay a premium for him. Compare with Coleman, Baines, Cahill, Carsley all from lesser teams. Then remember he had a few from the youth and class players at a snip like Arteta and John Stones (lower league again) . I am not saying this was all down to Moyes. I am saying the club acted differently than it seems to now. We buy players on their last legs or not wanted or at premium prices and ignore the lower leagues it seems?


16.) 04 Dec 2019 07:34:36
I understand that ED002.


 

 

29 Nov 2019 08:11:27
Is it true we are interested in Joe Worrall at Notts Forest Ed? I think he is the type of player we need. and probably about another 3 as well lol?

degsyp

{Ed002's Note - He has been looked at by many PL sides.}


 

 

03 Nov 2019 13:50:19
Message for FatChris89. sorry mate I missed your response re sale of players for profit. Michael Arteta, John Stones, Andy Johnson, Joleon Lescott and Fellaini to name a few. Plus we also sold loads of kids for profit. Rooney, Rodwell, Anichebe, Duffy, Vaughn. to name a few. Can you think of any since Moyes left where we have "balanced the books"? I cant. I am not saying Moyes was the best. but at his time the clubs' dealings seemed better than they are no. At this present time we seem to py hish and sell low overall.

degsyp

1.) 03 Nov 2019 15:35:52
Inflation needs to be given a second thought too, Degsy. When Moyes was here, the value of a good, young player didn't hit the bank balance as much as it does these days. We got Lescott, for example, for around 5m. Nowadays there is no way decent players come for that price. Just over the park a season or so ago, they sold an average forward for 20m. A player that didn't have much first team experience, or goals, and he still went for such a price. It's hard to compare one era to another, even if the DM years don't seem so far away, they are still a million miles away from what the game is now mate.


2.) 03 Nov 2019 16:29:47
Unless I'm being a dumbass, i'd say the Lukaku sale was pretty great value since Moyes left. Lookman, although i think could have commanded higher, went for a nice profit. How about Gueye?
Yes there are errors in our transfer dealings, but come on, we've played some blinders too!


3.) 03 Nov 2019 19:46:50
There have been a couple since Moyes left Degsy that have already been pointed out. But in general I do agree with you. When we didn't have much money we invested wisely in players, Coleman for 50k. Now we have money we get rinsed for players they flop and we struggle to get rid.


 

 

 

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08 Dec 2019 13:54:44
I thought he made some very astute changes. Firstly was the 442 set up. Secondly we stopped pushing up to the half way line and getting caught out with the simple ball over the top. At least 3 of Liverpools goals were that simple. a simple ball over the top or through the middle and our defenders too slow to turn and defend. Thirdly, he stopped this stupid roll out of the ball from Pickford and the never ending crossfield passes that look like we will lose possession and concede. Forthly, we pressed. We pressed as a team. not just one or two players. we got into them in every position until we went back from 442 to 451. Finally DCL with Richy just behind him worked a treat. DCL looked this good in one other game this season but has toiled hard for little result over the season. mainly because he has been on his own. Sometimes he had wingers. but noone besides him to lay it off to. Yes this game Dunc got things right. let's see if he can continue now.

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02 Dec 2019 17:58:55
Agreed. I have seen a landrover turn quicker than Mina.

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02 Dec 2019 09:08:01
Get rid of the lot. Get rid of our stadium. Change the team. New players all round. maybe play in red? see where I am coming from guys. I still support EFC and whilst there may be problems. we are still Everton.

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02 Dec 2019 09:05:33
I think ages ago Ed002 said that Mina was quite terrible. I had always said Keane was not a top defender. but an average one. We know our scoring has been a problem and everyone talks about signing forwards. but whilst we are conceding so many goals, the pressure on the whole team is to try and defend better. We seem to concede an average of 1.5 goals per game. Any team that does that has to score 2 goals before the ball has been kicked! My view is we need 2 top defenders and learn how to defend again. I would be happy for Moyes to come in and sort that. When he left he was pretty insulting. I understand that. But right now personal pride has to be put aside and we need to start defending. Of course players like Siggy and Tom Davies are just having awful games at the mo and confidence is shot. injuries and VAR decisions also seem to go against us. I do believe we have quality in the squad but my priority would be 2 central defenders. and getting the players confident again.

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{Ed001's Note - I think that might have been me, not Ed002. I don't remember saying it in those exact words but I was pretty scathing of Mina from what I had seen of him. He seemed like the absolute worst fit for English football and its pace that you could have bought. Not seen a lot to change my mind on him either.}


 

 

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13 Nov 2019 16:28:23
Like I have said many times. people miss the point. whilst we are struggling in front of goal, we seem to have say 65% possession, a few shots on goal and then concede after giving away a stupid free kick or a misplaced pass in defence. Then you can see the confidence just drain away. It is no surprise to me that we have not come from behind under Silva to win a game. We need to be more solid in defence before thinking about scoring more. We concede on average a couple of goals a game. So we already need 2 or 3 goals just to get a draw. never mind a win. We had the same last season but by the end we tightened up. I am not sure why we are so panicky and soft at the back but outfield onwards we look ok.

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11 Dec 2019 15:34:23
I thought it was an honest assessment. Especially from a red. let's face it most of what he said is right.

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09 Dec 2019 16:17:00
Yes he did ToffeeDavey but having two tractors along side you is probably too much.

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03 Dec 2019 20:29:30
My initial post wasnt really saying we need Moyes. it was more pointing out the way he brought through youngsters and signed players that we were/ are still picking (Seamus when fit and up until last season Baines) . my point is he did the 2 or 3 in every window and whilst not everyone made it. most did and we wheeled and dealed. We made profits and worked to a budget. The last few managers have had almost a different set of rules and money to play with. We have moved from shopping in Lidl to shopping in M&S. yet players are not performing and the team is not playing as a team. We had windows where we signed too many left sided players after previously not signing any. Then this season we needed a couple of center backs and signed Mina who really is too slow for the Premier league. I honestly don't know who chooses which players we sign but it is going wrong these last 3 or 4 windows. It caused Koeman's sacking. It caused us making a huge average squad and a group of players that I can't see gelling. We still need a center back or two and a center forward. My use of Moyes was really to say we ran things differently then. yes we have more dosh, but we seem to be chucking it at established players that other teams deem not good enough or they wouldn't let us have them. In Moyes' time he regularly looked at the teams who got relegated or League 1 clubs players and identified the up and coming youngsters. Who was the last up and coming youngster we signed from the likes of these teams? Only Richarlison springs to mind and we had to pay a premium for him. Compare with Coleman, Baines, Cahill, Carsley all from lesser teams. Then remember he had a few from the youth and class players at a snip like Arteta and John Stones (lower league again) . I am not saying this was all down to Moyes. I am saying the club acted differently than it seems to now. We buy players on their last legs or not wanted or at premium prices and ignore the lower leagues it seems?

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08 Nov 2019 14:43:44
I'd go for 8:1:1 based on our recent defending.

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01 Nov 2019 14:11:02
Yes geoffjohno I agree with you about the 4 you list. What about the other 20 odd that we have either been lumbered with or sent out on loan? 20 years ago we signed many players for a few mill and then sold them on for 10 times what we paid. Can you name players in the last 20 years that we have done that with? That was my point.

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