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08 Aug 2023 09:44:47
Hi Ed 002. I'm a bit confused with this Chermiti (spelling) ? If he signs, as is being reported, how is it feasible? Are we paying far too much for him so he can get a work permit? Is there a special case? I think you mentioned if someone has a special talent there might be a way around it. Is he a special talent? I know absolutely nothing about him, just curious as to how we're able to sign him, if we actually do sign him. Will we need to make an appeal? Does he want to sign? Sorry there's a lot of questions in there.

danefc80

{Ed002's Note - In order to obtain a Work Permit Everton would need to ensure he has sufficient points and that can be done by over paying on transfer fee and wages. Alternatively, he could be loaned out. There is an Exception process for Special Talant that as far as I know has only been used once this summer by a PL club. I have no idea what the player wants.}


1.) 08 Aug 2023 10:14:17
That would be like Everton to pay OTT for someone. Thanks for the reply Ed, much appreciated.


2.) 08 Aug 2023 11:47:21
Ed02 - are you saying there is a strong chance Chermiti won’t even be able to put an Everton shirt on this season?

I know you understand our financial position better than most do do you think we can over pay as you have suggested or will it put us in a more troublesome situation with FFP rules?

{Ed002's Note - No, I am saying that if he is to get a Work Permit the fee paid and wages paid would need to be more than expeected or they could try the exception route.}


3.) 08 Aug 2023 13:09:17
or he'll count as one of the 4 we're allowed to sign who don't meet the work permit criteria under the new rules.

{Ed002's Note - It is rather more complicated than that I am afraid.}


4.) 08 Aug 2023 15:01:26
I think it’s fair to say that unless the work permit was sorted then we wouldn’t be spending money on someone who can’t play for us .
He arrived in England yesterday. Alan Myers said medicals take two days so it will be later today or sometime tomorrow before any announcement is made. Then there’s all the media stuff he’ll need to do photos in the kit and first interview.
We can ill afford to buy someone and then loan him out again in our current financial situation
Frustrating to wait but we need to be patient.

{Ed001's Note - they do the pictures etc while awaiting the medical results.}


5.) 08 Aug 2023 17:48:43
We've bought onyekuru before we had a work permit for us and he never played a game big C so I wouldn't put it past us again haha. Hopefully not though.


 

 

30 Jul 2023 13:24:05
Hi Ed 002, hope you're well. I have no idea about the details regarding the Dele Alli deal, but any idea if he will be staying with us with the intention of playing next season or are we looking at trying to move him on? Thanks Ed.

danefc80

{Ed002's Note - Dele Alli (CM/AM) It continues to go horribly wrong and I understand Everton want the entire distraction of Dele Alli away from the club on a permanent basis. He should be at his peak value yet he is worth little to Everton if they want to sell - and finding a buyer will be near impossible. The loan to Besiktas did not well and they did not take up their option to buy. A loan seems the best way to get at least the bulk of his wages off the books - but the PL seems unlikely to offer options. Everton could look to release him but will not want to pay up his contract - so some negotiation is required - particularly with Spurs if Everton want to avoid an issue with the PL.}


1.) 30 Jul 2023 16:30:35
Sounds like a bit of a mess with very little chance of it being resolved any time soon. Thanks for the reply Ed.


2.) 30 Jul 2023 17:14:04
Hi Ed02 - do you think there could be a possible solution with Alli going to Saudi League?

I can’t see anyone paying for him. What club would be stupid enough to take such a risk… oh wait - answer’s closer to home with that one.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I know of.} It seems like clutching at straws.}


3.) 30 Jul 2023 21:01:30
It is Ed. Whoever signed off the deal for Alli on wages around £100k a week needs their head checking. Having done little at Spurs for the last few years why sign him on 3 year contract? Why not take him on loan for a season and see if there is a player there?

It feels like the only way we can solve this balls up is if someone more idiotic than our recruitment team can snap him up.

{Ed025's Note - so many mistakes BR its unbelievable, Levy had our pants down on that one for sure, it was desperation mate and a quick fix solution to try and disguise Moshiri,s past failings..


 

 

04 Jun 2023 18:47:02
Hi Ed002, hope you're well. Do you know if Pickford is looking for a move or would be open to one? I assumed if we went down he would have left, but with us staying up, (for now) will he want to stay?
Also, am I right in thinking we will have to sell someone for a decent fee, similar to Richarlison last year, due to ffp? Thanks Ed.

danefc80

{Ed002's Note - Jordan Pickford (G) Everton have FFP, Sustainability and Ownership issues which means that they may now listen to offers for Pickford, but prior interest has largely shifted. Not first choice for Spurs but the may offer a solution but they are dealing with recruiting a new coach that could shift their interest, and he would perhaps be only third choice for them. I am not aware of the player seeking a move and Manchester United have moved on to much preferred options.}


1.) 05 Jun 2023 06:57:57
Thanks Ed.


 

 

12 Aug 2022 11:18:08
Ed02, I'm not sure if this has been asked, I can't find anything anyway. I saw your said there's interest in Gordon, are Everton looking at selling him or is he looking to leave? Thanks.

danefc80

{Ed002's Note - No, Everton want to keep him.}


1.) 12 Aug 2022 11:31:15
Thanks Ed, appreciate the reply.


2.) 12 Aug 2022 15:18:57
Surely selling Gomes, Allen and JPG has to be a priority? Any news Eds?


3.) 12 Aug 2022 15:40:56
How many priorities can there be? Is it Guaye? Is it a striker? Is it selling players?


4.) 12 Aug 2022 16:21:10
1. Sell players or we are in the poo
2. Striker
3. Gueye.


5.) 12 Aug 2022 17:05:59
Selling players relies on there being buyers.
We may need to do as Arsenal did and let players move on without a fee, just to get them off the wage bill.


6.) 12 Aug 2022 18:07:14
Problem with that JB is we may have to pay off their contracts.
Highly unlikely that they’ll be moving for higher wages so we may be in a similar position with those players like psg and gueye apparently are.


7.) 12 Aug 2022 19:54:17
Catch 22 JBToffee.


 

 

06 May 2021 10:45:20
A question for Ed02,apologies if its already been asked. I seen you said Ancelotti likes Bale, and obviously his wages are ridiculously high. Is he someone Everton are actually showing a genuine interest in? Thanks.

danefc80

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach to Real Madrid.}


1.) 06 May 2021 10:56:07
Thanks, i appreciate the reply.


 

 

 

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25 Aug 2023 20:00:39
Everyone wondering why we haven't signed Adams. Is SD looking for someone else first etc. Maybe Adams isn't keen on the move, maybe he's thinking about it or maybe he's hoping someone else will come in for him that might not get relegated. He obviously doesn't want to play in the championship, and that could well happen playing for us, so maybe he's hoping a mid table team will come in for him. We might not be taking ages to do the deal, we might be waiting for a decision, its not just a decision for us, the lad might not fancy coming to us unless he has no other options, and who could blame him.

danefc80

1.) 25 Aug 2023 20:49:52
Maybe.


2.) 26 Aug 2023 05:24:28
Southampton have offered him a new contract, we’ve also bid for Beto.


 

 

09 Nov 2022 05:02:44
I've said it before and will say it again, Lampard is not the man for this job, but don't ask me who is, maybe Sean Dyche before we got Lampard in. He has no experience at a team that is struggling. He done nothing with Chelsea and nothing with Derby to warrant getting this job. He is tactically inept. We struggle to make chances every single game. Yes he's improved the defence but we still concede a lot and have a hell of a lot of shots against us. He's negative in his set up. Same formation and team most games, and when that doesn't work, he changes players like for like and never the formation. On Saturday he brings Maupay on and still only plays one striker when we're a goal down, instead of taking a chance and pushing a player further up the pitch to support him. What is it, were 1 down let's hold on to that and hopefully nick a goal from a corner. Were so negative its unbelievable, were boring to watch, everything is backwards, we are awful on the ball when we do have it. I'm not saying sack him, as who would we bring in, but he's got to have a good long look at himself and change things, as this same dross week in week out is not going to win us games. We change the whole team when we have 6 weeks with no game, what's the point in that, he's made a rod for his own back. You get people saying, oh Frank will sort it, no he won't, he's never even remotely shown he can sort it. He got lucky keeping us up last season, his attacking transfers have been awful and I really cannot see him being here next season. He seems a nice guy, seems to get the club, but that doesn't make you a good manager. Were in massive decline and its only going to get worse. People say give him a few transfer windows, he hasn't shown anything to say he will change things around, plus who in their right mind is going to want to join us anyway, we're absolutely awful.

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1.) 09 Nov 2022 05:58:33
i agree mate thing that is frustrating is seeing cannon and mills come on when we was 3.1 down at least one of them should been on at half time i don't want him sacked but the wolfs will be circulating him after last nights team selections and subs only one player stood out and was patterson the rest bottled it on the ball am afraid.


2.) 09 Nov 2022 08:52:05
Dyche would inject some passion and will to win. Thing is Dyche is another Moyes (with a bit of fat Sam) , I don't think the supporters who would rather have 'Entertaining' football would like it. I honestly believe this Teams ability will not hit home until we are in the Championship, wonder where the 'we should have won that' entertainers will be then.


3.) 09 Nov 2022 09:54:18
As much as we all want entertainment, we're in a similar position now to when Moyes was brought in. We need something similar to fix this mess and for me Dyche would have done that, but yea there would have been a lot of complaints because we do want entertaining. We need passion before anything else.


 

 

28 Aug 2022 19:51:23
Lets say all these ridiculous rumours come off, and we sell Gordon. Bring in Broja, Gallagher, Diaz, Gana Gueye. How are we paying all these wages? Yes we have gotten rid of quite a few players, the reason we got rid of them was to help with ffp as our wage bill was ridiculously high, so we needed to get quite a few off the books. We then sign all these players and were in a pretty similar situation with ffp. Yes the players may well be better, but that isn't going to sort the finances out. Let's be realistic, we can't afford to bring all these in, and if we did, the crackpot owner that we already have, may have just outdone himself.

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1.) 28 Aug 2022 20:14:55
Mr Moshiri crackpot goodness me.


2.) 28 Aug 2022 20:42:47
I'd expect that the contracts handed out to new players are nowhere near as lucrative as those who have run down their deals and left.


3.) 28 Aug 2022 21:09:57
The contracts he has gave to players in the past, are the type of contracts a crackpot would hand out, so yea I agree with you Guernsey, he is a crackpot ?.


4.) 28 Aug 2022 21:10:38
You would hope so blue, time will tell.


5.) 28 Aug 2022 21:32:05
In the past mate move on.


6.) 28 Aug 2022 21:38:18
It’s hard to move on when he’s still our owner?

Let me as you Guernsey, if you were a red, would you have backed Hicks and Gillet? If you were a barcode, would you have backed Ashley? You seem intent on never speaking out against anything bad our owner ever does.


7.) 28 Aug 2022 21:49:07
Me Moshiri best thing that has happened put his money in and backed us to the hilt.


8.) 28 Aug 2022 22:18:33
How can he be the best thing that happened to us. With inundated with debt, its only going to rise year in year, and he's still not got a clue what he's doing. Yes he's got a new ground and out a lot of money into the club, but were also now probably the worst run club in Europe. Its a joke.


9.) 28 Aug 2022 22:27:16
Moshiri, isn't there £1bn plus being thrown at our club because of him? Plenty of it wasted, absolutely. Still, putting that amount of money in surely his commitment can't be questioned.

Not privy to the in and outs of the details obviously. Stadium on the way and we look financially secure. Even though FFP is keeping an eye. That's due to wastful spending as mentioned I assume. Which seems to be under cheque now with what looks like a more shrewdder system in place. Future looks bright largely down to him and Bill as far as I can see. I could obviously be wrong. Time will tell I guess.


10.) 28 Aug 2022 22:38:17
Hopefully the future is different but by pas evidence, Moshiri is far from being "the best thing that happened". His commitment, as mentioned, cannot be faulted. However he has shown a complete lack of knowledge in how to run a football club. Hopefully lessons have been learned and we can progress with the club being ran in a much better way.


11.) 28 Aug 2022 22:38:53
No ones questioning his commitment. Its the fact he's wasted a hell of a lot of money, albeit his own, and were in a financial mess, which we weren't in a few years ago.


12.) 28 Aug 2022 23:09:27
Totally agree with them comments. Way I look at it, he's not perfect. Hopefully what we are seeing as of late will be the norm going forward. Our new Dof seems to be the best signing in a long time. Didn't Chelsea waste a hell of a lot of money when they were took over all that time ago?

Hopefully Moshiri is learning. Most of all for himself let alone the club. If you look at our transfers over the last year there is plenty of value in them. Gray, Townsend etc. Even Begovic an absolute steal of a back up keeper in my opinion. That's before our new manager and Dof.

I am being an optimist. Like I said for his own sake he is learning. A tentative comparison. Wasn't Shevchenko signed at Chelsea because of the owner, apparently? Hopefully Moshiri has gotten to know where his involvement is best used. I'm just delighted one of the best stadiums in Europe being built at the moment is at Everton F. C.

Moshiri not perfect but who or what is and would take the club forward better. I'm grateful and trying to be a realist as much as possible.


13.) 29 Aug 2022 10:05:00
Mr Moshiri has done a lot for Everton, and I assume spends most of his time out of the country, hasn’t he left the day to day running of the club to Bill and the staff that were or are here today. Mr Moshiri just giving the NOD of approval on selling or buying this or that player when financial decisions are required. Or do I see it wrongly.


14.) 29 Aug 2022 10:46:58
Moshiri put his money into our club but the dof and managers all wanted different players, alongside moshiri himself being advised by the agents to buy players.


Hindsight is a great thing but we all celebrated these players coming in at the time.

It seems now moshiri has taken a back seat and allowed the dof and manager to buy the players. They do seem to be working together, not having their own agenda.

We have a long way to go, even another 2 or 3 windows but we need to give Frank and his team the time to do this. We have clement who is a highly respected, experienced coach and Edwards who is well thought of as up and coming coach and Cole who was a world class left back.

We may struggle for a time, even go down but we will continue to support the club amd bounce back.


 

 

21 Jan 2022 22:27:17
I'm hoping I'm wrong, but from Duncans press conference did it seem like he's already accepted he won't get the job permanently, with saying he hasn't got the experience. Any of the eds got any info on whether he is very much in the thoughts of the owner for the job? Thanks.

danefc80

{Ed025's Note - i think they will be looking for someone with a higher profile dan, but if dunc does well i cant see why they wont at least consider him mate..


1.) 21 Jan 2022 22:35:42
As we've seen in the past higher profile and big salaries don't always work. I hope they can see past that if he does well, but I won't hold my breath. Please just listen to the fans this time. And don't give us Rooney or Lampard, neither will last a year there.


2.) 21 Jan 2022 23:01:16
How much more experience do you need than a 100% record? Give him 12 games in 4 batches of 3. Give him a target of 6-7 points per batch. 24-28 points would be as good if not better what any other manager would achieve. If he can get that then leave him till he end of the season.


3.) 22 Jan 2022 00:37:21
I pretty much thought he was taking his hat out of the ring. He has been given a few games to steady the ship but notiing after that. He made it sound like he doesn't want to be a full time manager.


4.) 22 Jan 2022 08:12:01
Don't think with the utmost respect (and I don't want him popping round for a 'chat') , that Dunc is the most eloquent. Perhaps he is happier not (solely) in front of the camera.


5.) 22 Jan 2022 09:25:09
I think that Dunc doesn’t want to ruin the relationship he has with the club and fans. We clearly all love him and he loves us but if he becomes manager and it goes wrong he’ll get the sack and have to leave. Just don’t think he wants this to happen!


6.) 22 Jan 2022 09:55:52
I am thinking and hoping that Duncans remit is to get us to a free from relegation situation, then purely after his own comments it's back to the 'managerial merry-go-round ' where every Tom Dick and Harry are floated then flouted leaving every one of us flummoxed one minute then elated the next deflated . . . It's fun being an Evertonian ain't it? ?‍?.

{Ed025's Note - today guys im calling for some positivity, lets for just one day not moan about the players or the board and see how it goes, im looking for a good 2-0 win today with the ground rocking...how about it?..


7.) 22 Jan 2022 10:30:02
I’m with you Ed025???.

{Ed025's Note - nice one jimmy..


 

 

01 Jun 2021 18:04:10
I put a post up a while ago about the disappointment with Ancelotti. I haven't wanted any of the managers we have brought in since Moyes, for the first time since we have had a manager leave or get sacked, I actually do have a preference for us. Out of anyone available and who would possibly come, for me its got to be Nuno.

We moan about defensive football, boring football, playing sideways, lack of goals. For me, Nuno changes that over time. He down a job at Wolves and got them playing some good stuff, he's supposedly got some good contacts and brought some fantastic footballers into that said. I would be more than happy with his appointment.

danefc80

1.) 01 Jun 2021 19:22:13
Have to agree, out who we could realistically attract, my vote would be Nuno too.

I was talking to a mate of mine about Spurs a few weeks ago and I said I’d be surprised if Spurs didn’t look at him.

Think out of the managers being touted he’s the best choice.


 

 

 

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08 Aug 2023 10:14:17
That would be like Everton to pay OTT for someone. Thanks for the reply Ed, much appreciated.

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06 Aug 2023 11:27:29
Whose paying his wages, because we certainly won't be.

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04 Aug 2023 22:05:25
Me too Ed. We might struggle to score many, but we will pick up plenty of well earned points with low scoring draws and 1-0 wins. We won't be a walk over for anyone, that's for sure.

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04 Aug 2023 21:43:03
I totally agree Ed. I actually have no issues with anything so far. The likes of Gnoto isn't going to sign for us, and I've got no problem with that. I haven't even got a problem with how the transfer window has gone. Yes it's been underwhelming, but its what I expected. I expect is to be competing with the teams at the bottom and buying players that are probably bottom half of the table players. I was only pointing out that we won't be signing Gnoto or anyone like him. I'm behind Sean Dyche and the team. I wanted Sean 4 or 5 years ago, I think he's the perfect manager for us. I know we all dream of being in the top half again, but the reality is, we're nit and we're not attra time and i have no issue with that, we just need to accept we're a bottom 5 team as it stands, but like you, I think we will surprise a few this season and maybe finish 12th/ 13th or thereabouts. Dyche is a top manager. Maybe my message was read in the wrong way or I could have explained better, but I'm behind the team and manager, I understand our shortcomings and I understand our position, I just think we can't be expecting to sign decent players on high wages when we're in the position we are and then get disappointed when we don't get them. The reality is, we are we're we are and we won't be getting anyone that is anywhere near being a top player as we have a long way to go to attract them. Not negative and I actually have no problem with it, its been coming for years and I made mh peace with it 3 or 4 years ago so its no surprise to me.

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{Ed025's Note - im actually looking forward to the season now dan, we have had a full pre-season and im sure Sean will know a lot more about the strengths and weakness,s of the squad, it may not be pretty but im sure he will have them giving 100% and in our position thats all we can ask for mate...anything else would be a bonus..


 

 

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04 Aug 2023 20:24:39
Means nothing. He still won't be signing for us. We could be after Messi, Ronaldo, Haaland, they won't be signing for us. We can't afford him and we're not appealing. He's out of our league and will have better teams after him. We're a relegating threatened, bottom half team. It's going to take years for us to be steady again and work our way towards the top 10. We're not as appealing as we once were. We can't offer the wages that we once did and we can't offer European football. We will be bringing players in that can steady us and push us up a couple of places season upon season. If and when we reach 10th in the table, maybe then will we look even remotely attractive to players like Gnoto, until then, they are out of our league and rightfully so. We aren't the attractive team that we were in the 80s, we aren't the partly attractive team that we were when we were getting into Europe under Moyes and were not the attractive team when Moshiri took over and we threw money at anyone that had ever kicked a ball. We're back to the position we were in when Moyes took over, battling relegation and trying to work our way up the table.

danefc80

{Ed025's Note - the thing is dan we all have a moan and my god we have enough to warrant that, but its still our team mate and being a supporter means through the bad times as well as the good, we are in a slump of course and its tough but with Dyche in charge we could do better than we all expect, yes its an underwhelming transfer window up to now but we still have the nucleus of a half decent outfit i believe, lets get behind Sean and the boys and see how things pan out hey, if it goes tits up and we are struggling every week then we will have licence to moan to our hearts content, but this is the start of a new season..a new beginning so lets start out with a bit of belief and expectation and see how it goes..


 

 

 

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12 Feb 2024 13:49:38
He may be a striker that doesn't score and has very little confidence, but we're a team that create very little. Yea the chip didn't work, but its not like he's getting clear chances every game and missing. When he's missing easy chances every game, then you can criticise him, until then, he's still a player that is putting a hell of a lot of effort in, holding the ball up, running the channels, winning most things in the air but he has very little to feed off. He's still far and away our best striker, and who knows, maybe when he gets a goal, he might get some confidence back. We're all very good at criticising others, let's hope if he does hit some form, he then gets given some credit too. I wouldn't many strikers would want to be our number 9 with the little service they get. Even world class strikers would struggle in this Everton team.

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08 Jun 2023 08:20:23
I'm a bit of a fiorentina fan, but made up for Moyes. I don't understand why people hate him so much. He basically got offered a promotion and more money to leave us, we would all do the same if it was in our line of work. Yes he said some things that maybe in hindsight he shouldn't have said, but we've all done that. And so what if he tried to sign some of our players on the cheap, no one was forcing us to sell them, plus his job would be to sign players as cheap as possible, he done it for Everton when he could, so he was always going to do the same as Utd manager, that was his job. There's no loyalty in football, there's no loyalty in many things in life. He got us in a very sound position financially and in the league, its not his fault we went backwards when he left. He stayed with us for 10 years, he was more than entitled to take a bigger job, he had earned that.

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04 Jan 2023 16:49:27
I've never understood bringing scrappy doo into the show, I could never watch it with him in it, ruined it for me.

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09 Nov 2022 09:54:18
As much as we all want entertainment, we're in a similar position now to when Moyes was brought in. We need something similar to fix this mess and for me Dyche would have done that, but yea there would have been a lot of complaints because we do want entertaining. We need passion before anything else.

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09 Nov 2022 08:39:11
A decent striker won't make that much difference, we don't create anything.

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