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07 Oct 2019 20:24:19
Why do we all keep quoting these top managers names? . why would they risk the poisoned chalice that is EFC?
There is something rotten deep within the club that means we will always be mid table flirting with 8th place at best.

We will not get relegated nor will we progress as we cannot compete with the heavyweights such as Bournemouth and West ham for the Europa places.
A disgrace of a club from the players up to management.
Something significant needs to change or we'll be having the same conversation in 10 years time.


1.) 07 Oct 2019 22:03:59
Matey you have to be a wum!

2.) 07 Oct 2019 22:09:00
I sense anger in you.

3.) 07 Oct 2019 23:38:26
True Trev but we must live in hope.

4.) 08 Oct 2019 00:28:53
What a . a doodle do. Simply a stupid post. IMHO.

5.) 08 Oct 2019 08:08:15
Whilst I understand why you are having a rant. You have drifted into just nonsense.

Poisened chalice you say? Moyes went onto to be United manager, Koeman and Martinez both landed top international jobs. Allardyyce certainly didn't harm himself either. Despite the performances in the pitch, we will still be able to attract managers.

However, just like the 20 goal striker, these 'top' managers simply don't exist in the abundance many on this site would have you believe.

So many times the question of who is asked, and other than Rafa who is clearly not the answer very few names are ever touted.

We shout about needing Premier league experience blah blah, but how many of the managers at the top clubs had it when they joined? Pep, no, Klopp, no, Emery, no, Lampard, no, yes a couple did the majority cut there cloth at the top European clubs before having success here. And we will not attract Champions league winning coaches. So we have to be a bit more speculative.

How many current Premier league coaches would you opt for if given the choice? Howe - maybe, the rest - no.

6.) 08 Oct 2019 15:58:13
Be nice to see if Kean was a 20 goal a season striker to be fair but it seems like our manager would rather spend millions on a bench.

7.) 09 Oct 2019 09:14:15
Cant see that happening any time soon DPP and what's wrong with having millions on the bench?



06 Oct 2019 21:01:21
Wow. relegation zone, 5 losses already, cannot score, cannot defend. we are in a mess.
What to do? . let him go? What's the alternative? . keep him in place? . and risk the real threat of relegation cos that's where we are at present.
Allardyce must be laughing his socks off while counting his millions!
We are a joke a laughing stock and I honestly cannot see how we fix it!
May be premature but RIP Everton football club as we know it!


1.) 07 Oct 2019 00:50:06
Why are you worried Trev. Silva has stated that he is not worried and he has talked to Moshiri twice and they all believe that Silva can turn things around by using the well proven tactics employed so far this season. Presumably that means keeping the faith in the present favorites, zonal marking, utilizing a single striker and not practicing set pieces.

2.) 07 Oct 2019 09:44:51
seriously making me dissinterested in football what's the point.



29 Jul 2019 23:20:15
Here we go again. why oh why is it that Everton, season after season bare the brunt of idle press gossip that bamboozles us long suffering fans into believing all sorts in terms of new players
I believe we are the most secretive yet most targeted club when it comes to transfers.

I am however concerned that with a little over a week left before the window shuts we are no closer to recruiting the "5" players we so desperately need to improve on last season's performance.
I have to have faith in MB and MS as they seem to have the full support of the club and surety they have a plan that nobody. not even the irritant that is Jim White knows about.

I didn't see the Delph move coming and think it's a very shrewd move. here's to more secretive shrewd moves in the next week. please!




27 Sep 2018 22:20:21
Great news about Pickford he's got a great future. still not convinced by Silva but will support him anyway but he needs a win, a performance and a clean sheet to take the immediate pressure off that allows him to shape his team. let's hope he gets it!

Does anyone know why we are playing league cup next week but no one else is?


1.) 27 Sep 2018 22:44:51
To fit in with that red lot.

2.) 28 Sep 2018 16:27:11
Chelsea did not want to play Their game on the Tuesday, the Reds were happy to play either Day, it was to accommodate Chelsea not our neighbours, so we chose to play the following week, rather than last Tuesday.

Should we beat Southampton, we will not have the same scenario in the next round.



17 Sep 2018 22:37:17
So what's changed? . since Moyes left what has actually changed? . other than shelling out over the odds for average players and promises of success from a billionaire investor nothing has changed.
Same old story. injuries, bad luck, poor decisions are the same excuses being used from Martinez and before long Silva too.

How can an unproven manager who jumps ship more often than Uncle Albert be the answer?
Yet again we have the promise and all die hard fans are sucked into the "plan". what we actually have is 6 points from what should be 15 with probably the easiest start to a season any manager could hope for never mind a new one with a statement to make.

Why o why is it always Everton that allow the "bad run" to end be it a team or individual player?
The kids are not good enough, Schneiderlen is not good enough, Tosun is not good enough. I could go on!
Ferguson must go and Silva needs to show very quickly why the owners have put so much faith in him because I for one cannot see it!


1.) 18 Sep 2018 06:44:29
kids aren't good enough yet kenny was one of best on the pitch, morgan not good enough yet we have fell apart every time he hasn't been on the pitch.
you talk about getting sucked into the plan then proceed to waffle about statements to be made? is that not the same thing, suck it up mate and either support or go follow city if you just want an easy ride.

2.) 18 Sep 2018 07:28:09
Jumping on the manager after 5 games is just ridiculous. I'm pretty sure every one of us would want more points than we have. Yes some did get a little carried away with all the optimism but if the alternative is just being miserable and banging on about Moyes then sorry I'll be with optimists.
Things may not work out you may be right, but excuses or not you cannot say injuries/ suspensions have done Silva any favors.
We bought in a lot of players, but unlike other coaches Silva did not try and rush them all into the team, he was patient and it was looking OK. Silly suspensions and a few injuries later and he has been forced to play players who either aren't ready or aren't in form.
Recruitment wise Richarlison, Digne both look class, Bernard showed he may be too and they are all new recruits. There is plenty still to be optimistic about but for some reason you would prefer not to see it!

3.) 18 Sep 2018 09:10:40
Some did the exact same thing last season with Koeman and look at the teams we had to play then in the first 6 games. Will Silva last past Christmas? Injuries will play no more bigger part than it did for Koeman. What will, is the fans ability to stay patient with the management and team until they gel. Silva's change in playing style may give him a little more leeway with some but as you can see some fans are not happy already. For me its fundamentally down to the argument of what type of football are we prepared to watch. Pragmatic football based around defensive solidity that gets results occasional wins mainly draws, but not pretty to watch or a more expansive attacking game that is high risk in the fact that we need to score more than concede. To me it looks like the same situation ManU are currently in the process of trying to figure out with Mourinho. It's said patience is a virtue and I can see why. Patience is what we need but whether Silva get enough, time will tell.

4.) 20 Sep 2018 15:46:35
You can look for blame in so many ways but quite simply defensive errors like a suicidal throw out by Pickford, ball watching centre backs and strikers that could not hit the pre verbial barn door!
Ifs and buts except the outcome and the post motel would have been very different!




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09 Nov 2019 12:19:41
Agent Silva, this is HQ - Progress report indicates that operation 'Screw Everton' is very much on course and will be completed by May 2020. Please continue with current team selection and tactics to ensure we execute on time. Please also remember to spend as much money on poor players as possible in January.

You have managed to evade disaster to date but please don't mess this up by winning any games. you have the excuse of injuries and 'Big 6' teams to play to protect you further but it is imperative that you try and get the job done by Christmas in the event you are scuppered and removed from your undercover role.
We will be in contact again in a few weeks. just keep doing what your doing - HQ out.


1.) 09 Nov 2019 12:55:21
Tricky Trev, I get the distinct impression you are none to happy with Marco? 😑.



29 Oct 2019 15:54:52
It would be interesting to see how many people actually want us to lose tonight to rid ourselves of Silva. this would imply that his departure is of more importance than silverware!

I have to admit. I'm for it as the long term future has much more importance than progression to the next round which will inevitably end in defeat if he stays!
These are messed up times!


1.) 29 Oct 2019 16:29:25
Better managers than Marco have won silverware and have still been shown the door Tricky mate.
Whatever happens in this (minor) cup comp. will end up just a footnote in his tenure, because the PL results will overshadow it like a full solar eclipse!

2.) 29 Oct 2019 17:25:29
No matter whether the manager is someone you like or not, to advocate supporting your own team to lose, to throw away an opportunity at a possible trophy victory, its abhorrent in my eyes!
A real fan will ALWAYS want their team to win, no matter what.

3.) 29 Oct 2019 17:33:48
To want to throw a comp out because of the manager is just unexplainable to me. Winning silverware is about being the best. And it’s the one main way we can live up to our own mantra.

I never want us to lose. Remembering how Kendal was so close to losing his job and going from unpopular with the fans to literally the best manager we have ever had is lesson enough for me to understand that winning cup games or any games come to that should never be traded for future uncertainty.

4.) 29 Oct 2019 18:29:01
I want a win tonight and if it gives Silva a stay of execution so be it. For me an Everton win will always be first in my thoughts.

5.) 29 Oct 2019 18:51:27
We have been craving the level of investment we now have for years and in typical Everton style we have messed it up. supporters such as yourself cannot see the wood for the trees. take off you tinted specs and look at the bigger picture.

If we win tonight we are caught in "no mans land" as the board will be reluctant to remove him as we will be in a cup quarter final and this will only bring prolonged misery and damage to the club as he is inept and way out of his depth (as is the advisor that sanctioned the appointment) . your prehistoric approach to supporting EFC in the modern era could be considered "abhorrent" in many eyes and certainly mine.

Not a personal attack but this is a forum for opinion and ours differ greatly. let's see what happens and maybe we can offer our opinions once again around 6.30pm on Sunday!

6.) 29 Oct 2019 20:52:42
Even a win is only a stay of execution if you take into account the run of fixtures we are about to face. It may come down to opinions, Trev, but I never want to see my team get beat. Never. For me, that's the total opposite of what a supporter is. If you believe he is as bad as you say then he will get his marching orders soon enough but not at the expense of us losing.

7.) 29 Oct 2019 21:01:40
Everyone’s entitled to air their opinion on this forum. But to want to lose? Sorry that’s not a matter of opinion. It’s wanting your team to lose, wanting another team to win at our cost, wanting to not win silverware, wanting Everton to miss out on success. Why? Because you think that losing supplies to an improved future.

There is genuinely no advantage to losing. The bigger picture you refer to offers no guarantees but beating Watford tonight guarantees us the next round.

In your impatience to have the current manager replaced, you seem to have lost your purpose as a supporter.

8.) 29 Oct 2019 19:19:14
That is such a ridiculous statement. A cup quarter final equals prolongued misery. I really can't wait to see you crying your eyes out as we lift a trophy at Wembley.
Of course the league is thus far disappointing and no doubt a managerial change is needed at some point, but when the time is right. Saying you want us to lose just to achieve this is disrespectful and makes me question how worthy you are of supporting this amazing club.

9.) 29 Oct 2019 19:25:09
Forgot to outline the most ridiculous of all statements. Wanting my team to always win is now deemed a 'prehistoric approach to supporting EFC in the modern era'.
Is the millennial snowflake supporting generation of the view that we should hope we lose games? No cup wins for Everton because we don't like the manager and would rather take failure?
I think I'll stick to the dinosaur view of wanting to win a trophy and go out trying to win every match regardless!

10.) 29 Oct 2019 19:31:05
Absolutely crazy post Trev and your reply is up there with one of the most up your own ass replies I've seen on here. Silva according to people close to the club is no where near the exit so a loss tonight wouldn't guarantee his departure.

The fact you want the team to lose shows the kind of fan you are and most on here will disregard your views based on that comment I'm sure.

11.) 29 Oct 2019 23:14:16
I'm happy the lads won, very happy Holgate got a goal. Not particularly happy with the performance. First half was very very low quality football. Some parts were ok in the second half.

I'm not filled with confidence for next game or months but hopefully we can turn it around. No idea how the club go about that though.



10 Oct 2019 20:38:05
IF we need a new manager some time soon we need a quality replacement. lots of names going round but the list below have to be real contenders:
Mark Hughes
Chris Hughton
Paul Lambert
Nigel Adkins
Tim Sherwood
Neil Warnock
Claudio Ranieri
Gary Monk

All proven successful managers. any one of them would sort us right out!


1.) 10 Oct 2019 20:44:03
Thats the cast of 'Peaky Blinders' isn't it Trixie? 😂.

2.) 10 Oct 2019 20:46:22
Not Paul Lambert for me. The rest look ok though.

3.) 10 Oct 2019 21:03:09
Is it 1st april already.

4.) 10 Oct 2019 21:26:59
Is this a piss take 😂😂.

5.) 10 Oct 2019 21:44:18
I would be hugely disappointed if any of those were to be our next manager. Thank god you have nothing to do with the recruitment process because that is the most mediocre candidate selection it is possible to get.

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7.) 11 Oct 2019 00:54:08
What - no Big Sam on the list Tricky?

What is interesting though is that all of them were thought at one time by many to be up and coming managers but they all turned out to be less than that.

We need to be careful what we wish for.

8.) 11 Oct 2019 06:32:49
Tricky is taking the Mick!

{Ed025's Note - its irony mate..

9.) 11 Oct 2019 06:33:43
You forgot Pardew, tricky.

10.) 11 Oct 2019 09:05:59
dark clouds probs have most of them.

11.) 11 Oct 2019 11:10:02
I stopped reading at Mark Hughes. Love a wind up, but that made me go to the toilet.

12.) 11 Oct 2019 14:19:31
Neil Warnock for me at least we would get some form of entertainment when the football was sh*t.



21 Sep 2019 22:49:37
Everton FC is a plan in progress and like any plan be it an astute commercial investment with a return exception or whether it's one borne out of sheer passion and desire you have to have all elements firing toward a positive outcome.
I guess you could apply a simple "tick" exercise to monitor and quantify progress of such a plan:
1. ownership. ✔
2. Commercials. ✔
3. recruitment. ✔
4. Long term residency. ✔ (🙏🤞)
5. Investment. ✔
6. Quality of "goods". ✔

7. Management of said goods. X

This arrogant fraud of a manager has somehow bamboozled many elements of the above positives and if allowed to continue will almost certainly bring a shroud of Leeds / Villa across our great club.
In business it is said that to admit your failings at the earliest point is a blueprint for future success. the pundits can see it, the fans can see it and now the players can see it.

Silva is an unproven, unpopular manager with an almost ghost like personality in terms of fan interaction who can very easily bring our club to its knees if allowed to continue with his mismanagement of our (on paper) expensive and talented squad.
I honestly don't know who the answer is but this fraud must be relieved of his duties before it's too late.

We are yet again a laughing stock so rather be such for a "knee jerk" reaction to an abysmal start to the season than for winding up playing our away games at Middlesbrough and Cardiff.

To the board. you had the tenacity and balls to chase him for a glimpse of success. now have the same nerve to make the right call now. as is often the case in life - sometimes things just don't work out. this hasn't and time go part company before it's too late.


1.) 22 Sep 2019 08:11:03
The players love him apparently so the may go against relieving him of his duties.

One thing nobody has thought of is we have been even more awful then usual it seems since boa morte has came into the club. Now if Silva isn't the shouting, screaming manager then we need a number two who does that.

I also wonder if the ownership is the problem. Bill took a long time to find moshiri and we were all made up when he came in with his money saying all the right things but it seems the wrong people have got a hold of his ear and our not giving him the best advice, as ed2 previously alluded to. This may be an agent with links to manager or players we buying.

In January we need to go out and get new cb or 2, maybe try lacelles (does ok in poor side) or go for zouma again (lost his place to tomori last week) .

If Silva wants to keep his job he needs to change things and fast. Sidibe should come in. Need Gomes fit so schneids doesn't get a look in. Maybe Davies or Bernard in number 10 and maybe draft a few kids in for cup game.

2.) 22 Sep 2019 10:46:40
Great post Tricky.
Geoff we all know what players we need but our manager should first get the best out of what he has and he does not. Whoever we buy under Silva we will not be any good as he does not get the best out of players or improve them.

3.) 22 Sep 2019 11:27:33
I know we had difference of opinion especially in the last week but I'm really struggling to support him atm.
A lot of players we have brought in are quite young except delph and They will need time to keep learning the game. The main frustrating part is other clubs have young players who are playing superb. Dan James at Utd, 3 lads at Chelsea, the saka lad at arsenal other day. Our young lads are not atm and that can only be down to Silva and his team. I don't dunc should be near the first team. Been there through 4 managers all have struggled. Need coaches and management team who are tough, adaptable and instil passion. Would love tim Cahill to be part of coaching team.



17 Sep 2019 21:24:26
Nothing has changed. class players on paper but Silva is a very very poor manager.
Not a knee jerk reaction but he has to go and now.
He's spent more money than any other manager yet still fails to create a consistent winning formula. or at least one that appears to.
Dont know who the answer is but if he stays we will not progress.

We have had the easiest start to the season I can remember yet we have not taken advantage.
This dour, arrogant and deluded man who other than ordering his players to give away their shirts after a tremendous victory against LINCOLN appears not to interact with the fans at all. go now before you worsen what I believe to be an already concerning position.
Wr are yet again the fodder for "pundits"


1.) 17 Sep 2019 22:08:38
I agree with most of that. Silva won’t be here next season. I’ll get panned for saying this but he is hapless.

Really think Everton have big problems - we should have progressed from Koeman / Martinez but fall for same mistakes over and over - keep signing unproven players year after year - sign players at last minute so no time to settle in before season starts.

Our last 3 managers have come from teams who have finished below us and even relegated

We ignore the likes of Dyche / Howe who I think are better fits - looking at league now we will probs chase after Norwich manager next year.

2.) 18 Sep 2019 01:32:02
Getting Howe or Dyche would he another step down. Sick of us employing young up and comers. Get a winner in with a winning mentality and forget going for someone who maybe might gain us an extra 2 or 3 points a season.

3.) 18 Sep 2019 13:38:23
Wholeheartedly agree swan.

4.) 18 Sep 2019 22:05:41
No problem with young up and coming managers. These so called successful managers were once young and given a chance.
Load of nonsense this winning mentality. Everyone who steps onto the football pitch has a winning mentality otherwise what is the point. Maybe not everyone has a killer streak like say klopp or pep and that maybe what we need.
Put ya foot on opponents throat (metaohorically) when they down so we best teams 4-0 as opposed to 3-2 and we really need to play away more like we do at home because we get stifled.

5.) 19 Sep 2019 09:21:28
Swan / Pauly

Who would both of you want as manager? I understand the frustration and your need to criticise Silva but what are your alternatives? You don't want young and up coming managers so you wouldn't have gone for Mourhino when he was still in Portugal, you wouldn't have taken a Clough when he was just starting out. When, in your opinion do they stop being up and coming manager and become winners with a winning mentality?

Personally I agree with geoffjohno, they already had that winning mentality when they first started in management - everyone goes into it with a winning mentality

Tell me, would you discount a Pochettino as he hasn't won anything?

Would you be calling for a Pellegrini as he won the Championship at Man City but nothing since or would it be a Mourinho who has a great record of winning things but that was by spending far more than Silva and Brands and who is, in my opinion on the wane as far as his man management goes. Maybe we should go with Wenger who had a great record and the nothing except top 6 for years and then out of the top 6 i. e. on the decline and 70 (not being ageist -I'm nearly there myself)

I honestly don't know the answer but calling for change and then not providing any solution is not helping.

We are all frustrated following a bad performance against Bournemouth. I don't think we played as bad against Villa or Crystal Palace but failed to take our chances. We played well against Wolves, Ok against Watford and Lincoln. Obviously we have to improve our away form but we also have to be a bit more patient. Kean is still teenager and needs to integrate into a new country and side, Delph one good game one average, JP out with injury, we're trying to integrate Iwobi into the side - at the expense of Bernard (one of our successes last season, Siggy just hasn't started yet (I don't understand why) but he was our joint top scorer last season but now everyone is calling for him to be replaced by Bernard who isn't a proven No 10 and who isn't a good option to replace the goals Siggy scores

People keep calling for Tosun. I've got nothing against him but he didn't work under Allardyce, Silva doesn't seem to rate him. The only teams that have been interested in him have been Turkish on loan, some interest from Germany but very low fee and now Qatar! I might be wrong but don't remember any Premiership clubs pushing hard to sign him - maybe because there are doubts about his ability to operate in the PL. Forget the goals he scored in the Champions league - what has done in an Everton shirt to warrant a regular place - very little if I'm being honest.

6.) 19 Sep 2019 20:38:38
He’s played 15 minutes for us this season and assisted in 1 goal - he played well against Lincoln and deserves a go instead of DCL who is a championship player.
If it doesn’t work then it doesn’t work but sticking with this set up is only going to irritate everyone
Why on earth Keane is not starting is beyond everyone - we can’t buy a goal and have an Italian national striker sitting on the bench - I will add Toson scored for Turkey and played very well despite no game time.




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24 Sep 2019 17:09:04
toffeeace, who else is there of that calibre?




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30 Aug 2019 22:19:35
First name in my dream team.




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25 Jan 2019 22:59:04
No it's not. the manager does not set transfer fees.




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13 Jan 2019 00:10:38
Zouma not good enough.




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13 Jan 2019 00:09:24
Sick of reading all this good guy stuff. niasse is crap and Tosun not fit to lace the boots of Brett Angell and looks like he's lived on a diet of Bass, Sayers and kebabs!
Get a life guys. give the youth a chance.





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29 Oct 2019 18:51:27
We have been craving the level of investment we now have for years and in typical Everton style we have messed it up. supporters such as yourself cannot see the wood for the trees. take off you tinted specs and look at the bigger picture.

If we win tonight we are caught in "no mans land" as the board will be reluctant to remove him as we will be in a cup quarter final and this will only bring prolonged misery and damage to the club as he is inept and way out of his depth (as is the advisor that sanctioned the appointment) . your prehistoric approach to supporting EFC in the modern era could be considered "abhorrent" in many eyes and certainly mine.

Not a personal attack but this is a forum for opinion and ours differ greatly. let's see what happens and maybe we can offer our opinions once again around 6.30pm on Sunday!




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29 Sep 2019 23:19:36
Uran. take a look at the table. we are not currently a top 10 side!
And not likely to be with recent performances.




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09 Jun 2019 21:15:49
I agree Ace. Pickford is the most confident keeper England have had in many years.
Not just because he's a blue but I always have an unusual confidence in him when playing for England (unusual in that previous keepers always make you feel on edge) and in penalty situations you always believe that he'll save at least one. and generally does.




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21 Apr 2019 22:05:35
Walcott scored the 4th?