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13 Apr 2022 18:12:18
So they have signed the contract for the new stadium then, £500M "locked in cost" whatever that means, sounds like double speak to me. Wouldn't it have been wise to wait till the little matter of relegation is sorted out before signing? What happens if we are relegated? Will we be hosting Stoke or Shrewsbury for the inaugural league game, or will it be financial armageddon and it will never get finished? Got to say I don't trust Moshiri one little bit anymore.

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1.) 13 Apr 2022 20:07:32
With rising costs all over the place makes sense to do this deal as apparently protects from any increased costs going forward.

Regardless of relegation I’d imagine we’ve already pumped too much money into the new stadium to pull out.


2.) 13 Apr 2022 21:05:38
Stops companies from adding on costs should they not meet their/ clubs agreed targets. Maybe the first sensible decision the club have made.


3.) 13 Apr 2022 23:23:49
Pretty standard these days after the Wembley debacle. It caused the builder of Spuds new gaff a major financial headache with the delays they had but that's what it is designed to do, protecting the club from spiralling costs on over runs and cock ups.


4.) 14 Apr 2022 07:24:55
Like a fixed rate quote, makes sense!


 

 

07 Apr 2022 19:59:36
Nothing has gone our way from the first day Moshiri took control, yes we had a few positive runs here and there, even played some good stuff, but overall we have declined every season. "But money and stadium! " I hear others say. We are up to our neck in debt. Player and staff recruitment has been a total disaster with ridiculous sums of money thrown away. If anyone here is thinking that the stadium move is going to go well, I don't think you have noticed the pattern of failure that has emerged with Moshiri. He is either an Leaving Goodison will be disastrous for Everton, and IMO we should cherish, celebrate and promote its unique character. At this point I'm just hoping that relegation turns out to be a blessing in disguise.

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1.) 07 Apr 2022 21:05:51
I really hope this new stadium turns out to be something special and we are not all moaning and saying how we don't like it and wish we hadn't left the old lady because we have lost the atmosphere
Time will tell, let's hope it's for the best.


2.) 07 Apr 2022 21:20:32
Great post London, you have to ask yourself will that stadium actually get built if go down? Players will leave in a fire sale, debt will increase, FFP will nail us, just cannot see a way back if we don't get out of it somehow.


3.) 08 Apr 2022 00:26:56
The saving grace of the stadium Skark is that we are a much more saleable club now.


4.) 08 Apr 2022 00:33:45
The stadium is not just being built to play football in.


5.) 08 Apr 2022 04:10:39
Lucky for the city Woburn because that's one thing we can't do ?.


6.) 08 Apr 2022 12:49:39
FFP is the worse thing to have happened, it punishes rather than incentifies.


 

 

07 Apr 2022 06:49:57
There is one man who is responsible for this mess, and what now increasingly looks like our relegation, Moshiri.

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1.) 07 Apr 2022 08:12:23
For pumping like £500 mill ?. You are blaming him for not beating the likes of Burnleys and Watfords. A lot of teams have beaten burnley this season, perhaps Lampard did not knew how to.


2.) 07 Apr 2022 09:24:49
This mess has been a long time in the making RDD and started well before Lampard, well before Rafa. It started when Moshiri bought us. Yes he pumped 500m into the club (the vast majority showing as a loan by the club on one of his investment companies but what have we got for it? 500m of debt, a poor squad, no leadership from the owner, the board, the DOF's, the numerous managers and Moshiri's fabled advisors - none of them working together and, as a result the club hasn't improved - it's gone backwards even with all the money pumped in.

{Ed025's Note - spot on be mate..


3.) 07 Apr 2022 09:35:24
The one thing Moshiri did ensure was the availability of funds to all the managers barring the exception of Rafa. It is utterly stupid to blame him alone for the mess. Yesterday's defeat or in particular this season has nothing to do with him. You are just trying to shift the blame on someone else.


4.) 07 Apr 2022 10:05:45
Read my post RDD. I didn't say it was all Moshiri's fault. I said it was "no leadership from the owner, the board, the DOF's, the numerous managers and Moshiri's fabled advisors - none of them working together and, as a result the club hasn't improved"

They've all played a part and you can add some of the players to the list

Moshiri is top dog and he has to take responsibility for allowing it to go on like this and saddling the club with a mountain of debt with nothing to show for it. Maybe he should have changed the board, maybe he should have allowed the DOF to actually do their job, maybe he hasn't picked the right managers or he's got too involved in wanting certain players but we've been mismanaged as a club from top to bottom. The responsibility lies with everyone within the club but rightly it starts at the top however much money he's loaned us.


5.) 07 Apr 2022 10:47:50
RDD, who do you even support? At times you refer to Everton as 'we' then other times you say 'you' not to mention your over the top loyalty to Rafa! Funny though as I've looked on the Liverpool pages and you don't seem to post there ?
Rafa was part of the problem despite what you say or think. The love in between Rafa, you and ed0666 is ridiculous considering the results he got helped put us in this mess. Stop trolling.


6.) 07 Apr 2022 11:42:21
BW what's with all the negativity in your posts above? You can't be a proper fan if you dare to be critical of aspects of the club, can you?


7.) 07 Apr 2022 13:14:25
I'm happy people are starting to point the finger at Moshri. People say you can't blame him because he has pumped money in. He's not pumped money in he's saddled the club with mountains of debt.

Moshri employed a man, in brands, to run the football club then overruled his decisions and bought the players he wanted, whether through his advisors or not, we bought them because moshri wanted them.

People blame the many managers, people blame the players and they are right too but who brought those people to the club? The vast majority were not brands, they were moshri.

The whole downward spiral of the last few years is because of Moshri. Others might have had a slight input here or there but moshri employed them. The buck stops with him.

Moshri out.


8.) 07 Apr 2022 13:44:48
You really are amusing TD. Sad but amusing. How about trying to post a constructive, informed post now. You might surprise yourself.


9.) 07 Apr 2022 14:13:02
?????.


 

 

26 Jan 2022 20:33:47
Remember Kenwright telling us he was holding out to sell to the right person? HAD to be the right person for our special club, turned down offers from the wrong type of person don't you know, so when Mr Moshiri turns up and, hey ho! Bill says he is the right chap to take us forwards, hurrah, at last we cheered!

Turned out well didn't it ?, so Bill, what exactly was it about Farhad that you liked, because as far as I can see he is a total disaster and we will be playing in the Championship next year as a result.

One silver lining for me, is hopefully we get to stay at Goodison. I for one can't bear the thought of leaving.

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{Ed025's Note - i think bill was waiting for someone with enough money to get this club to an elite level LB, and on the face of it FM looked like that guy, i dont think you can blame bill for that mate..


1.) 26 Jan 2022 20:46:49
The only reason he chose Moshiri was because he’d let ol’ Bill stay on as chairman and let him keep his train-set. Nothing to do with Everton, just his ego.


2.) 26 Jan 2022 20:54:09
I don't blame Bill for that, but good grief! I'm not sure it could have gone much worse than it has, and in retrospect there have always been red warning flags around Moshiri, even back then when still a relative unknown. What are the implications for Bramley Moore if we are relegated, I worry he and the board are so incompetent, they have over committed the club and we could face financial ruin.

{Ed025's Note - i cant see it effecting the stadium build LB..


3.) 26 Jan 2022 21:39:33
Bill wanted to still make money off the club, that’s it.


4.) 26 Jan 2022 21:50:24
If he ever wants his money back then he’s going to have to build the stadium.


 

 

26 Jan 2022 20:21:57
The club is in total chaos, no direction, no leadership, are these people total clowns or do they actually want us to get relegated? I'm honestly beginning to wonder which it is.
Everton are just so embarrassing now ?.

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20 Aug 2022 13:57:04
I don't expect we will sign a striker this window, any number 9 good enough will have better offers, and the clubs owner seems to have finally realised that you can't just throw money at the problem, and have to get the right personnel. Big mistake sending Simms out on loan IMO, he should have been given a chance as understudy till January.

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27 Jan 2022 17:24:43
We need a miracle to stay up, we are in such a hole, and I don't think there is anyone at the club who can stop the slide downwards. We have the players to improve but the owner and board are so rotton to the core that it is translating to the performances on the pitch. How do we get put of this? Everton are a proud traditional club who don't deserve such poor management, we are in real danger of becoming Sunderland. I know that sounds pessimistic, but actually its realism. Moshiri isn't getting his money back any time soon, so I guess we are stuck with him which depresses me even more as he is a walking disaster when it comes to his role at our beloved club.

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26 Jan 2022 20:54:09
I don't blame Bill for that, but good grief! I'm not sure it could have gone much worse than it has, and in retrospect there have always been red warning flags around Moshiri, even back then when still a relative unknown. What are the implications for Bramley Moore if we are relegated, I worry he and the board are so incompetent, they have over committed the club and we could face financial ruin.

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{Ed025's Note - i cant see it effecting the stadium build LB..


 

 

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23 Jan 2022 22:21:08
Like many premier league club owners, Moshiri has at best a questionable financial background, maybe we are cursed by the bad karma attached to the money ?

Seriously tho, can anyone name something that went right since he arrived? Seems like we are stuck in reverse to me.

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22 Jan 2022 21:04:27
Prepare for the championship next season. If fans thought Mike Ashley was bad, Moshiri's legacy will be worse, destroying our beloved, special old club. A club where for 144 years generations have spent much of thier lives supporting Everton FC at our beautiful and unique Goodison Park stadium. Moshiri's money has brought many ills to our door.

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