16 Jun 2021 15:48:05
So the argument is "Moshiri is owner, he has final say, wouldn't you want the same if you owned something"

Okay I can agree with that to an extent. Here's the issues, Moshiri has a terrible track record, Silva didn't work, Koeman didn't work, Ancelotti didn't work. He employed Steve Walsh who we now know was just dreadful.

So what's Moshiri like? We know he likes "Hollywood" managers and signings, he's admitted as much. He likes things ready made, short term style of doing thing

So my question is, why employ a director of football known for bringing through young players, young coaches and developing a club in the long term? It goes completely against what you have publicly said you want.

So you get 2 men with completely different ideologies, 1 has the final say, the other is supposed to run the club, but isn't allowed to because he wants long term success as opposed to the "oven ready" system.

So surely Brands should be sacked, or resign, because it isn't working, if you don't take his advice on board, get rid. If you don't like his way of doing things, get rid.

We know the type of managers Brands likes, Ancelotti and Silva didn't fit that. So depending on who we get, for example, Conte, Rafa, Nuno etc. That it's pretty much Brands being undermined again.

And if the next appointment doesn't work, which is a real possibility, assuming it's one of the above mentioned, how long before fans do start asking questions.

1.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 16:14:43
The fact that Brands has been given a position on the board negates the call for him to resign or be sacked. The man is obviously happy at the club or he wouldn't have recently signed a contract extension.
From a DoF perspective, Walsh left us in a mess, a costly one at that. Brands has come in but it has taken time to sort out the mess. There is still work to do and he seems happy to be there, doing it. That doesn't suggest he is being undermined, if that was the case then he probably would have walked by now.
Any appointment is a risk and it won't take too long for our fans to turn on whoever is in charge if results aren't going well. We have seen as much with the last 5 or 6 managers so I expect more of the same!

2.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 16:26:15
Just out of interest sake how do you know what type of manager Brands likes?
And what’s to say he wouldn’t like the appointment of Nuno?

If Brands likes to bring young players through and Nuno has a track record for playing youngsters surely they’d be a good fit?

Before Mendes is mentioned - he was an adviser to Wolves the club, not necessarily Nuno as an individual.

3.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 16:34:12
I’m not sure there is an issue here. We have an owner then everyone else under his employment. If worthier party isn’t happy they worthier find a job elsewhere or they are told to. Brands is giving no indications what so ever that he’s unhappy. To the contrary he’s indicating that everything is fine by signing contract extensions and taking more responsibility on the board.

4.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 17:40:13
Look at his record at PSV. Not a fan of dire negative football with no room for adaptation.

Nuno is best mates with Mendes, by Wolves fans’ own comments, Nuno missed out on a lot of good players because they weren’t with Mendes, or weren’t recommended by Mendes, he ignores everyones advice except Mendes. Which makes working under Brands, an issue.

5.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 17:48:09
Unfortunately, there are some fans you can't win with. You being one Swan. He's not even appointed anyone yet and you are already having a go.

He is the owner of the football club and everyone answers to him. So of course he will have the final say. I've never heard of anything where the people under you have more of a say on matters. What a bloody crazy run business that would be!

{Ed025's Note - "the lunatics taking over the asylum" .. :)

6.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 18:17:33
Marcel Brands was at PSV from 2010-18
In that time there were only 2 managers cocu and advocatt

So not sure how can make an assumption of what type of manager Brands prefers.

7.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 18:38:00
It’s not about him having more of a say, it’s about him actually being needed at the club. Or is he just here so if things do go wrong, Moshiri can say “well it was Brands who messed up, just like Walsh”.

I’m having a go because by all reports, he’s repeating the same mistakes he’s made numerous times now, he’s failed the club massively on the pitch.

8.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 18:46:46
Doesn’t matter lads it looks like it’s definitely Rafa now

Up the toffees.

9.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 18:49:21
It's the players that have failed massively on the pitch. Moshiri has backed his managers to the hilt, I fail to see how he can get pelters for that? If the managers have scouted poor players, or whoever was DoF at the time, then it's on their heads. You would have an argument if he was denying any manager the player he wants and causing friction. That's not the case though at everton.

10.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 19:02:56
It’s the managers he’s hired that are the problems mate.

11.) 16 Jun 2021
16 Jun 2021 19:17:46
To an extent mate but the majority of these players have seen off 4 or 5 managers now, one way or another. They have to shoulder a lot of the blame I think.