15 Jun 2021 09:17:52
How dare the club not tell us who the 40 linked managers are.

How dare they don’t come out and respond to every rumour regarding who is linked

How dare they don’t ask us all individually who we want appointed.

How dare they don’t stop the managerial search to do this.

How dare they don’t discuss all our transfer targets with us.

How dare they don’t operate like all the other premier league clubs - oh hang on 😂

Whilst the delay in appointing a manager is frustrating for some I think what some fans expect is completely unrealistic.

We are operating like all the other clubs in the league - no faster or slower, no more or less info than other clubs.

The issue is because we only focus on Everton - I’m sure majority of spurs and place fans are feeling the same about their managerial hunt - neither of those teams have come out and said who is and isn’t in the running.

Think we just need to relax, leave the club do the business and us as fans support whomever they appoint.

We’re supporters of the club Everton we don’t support Everton because of who the manager of Everton is.

{Ed025's Note - some really good points there dan..


1.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 10:58:08
I've said it before Dan. You are of the opinion that Everton are doing a good job in keeping it's fans informed on the manager search. I don't and it's fine that we disagree

Crystal Palace said they had stopped negotiations with Nuno. Spurs said that had stopped negotiations with Conte. They say they are now in final negotiations with Fonsecca

Where have we shown the same transparency? But please don't tell me that they are too busy to be bothered to keep their fans informed. That's insulting

Please. You keep your view and I'll keep mine.


2.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 11:44:04
Dan

I happen to agree with over 90% of your posts but I'm frustrated as I feel Everton is acting like a leaf in a storm. We're flapping in whatever direction the wind is blowing at any particular moment

What is Everton's Mission Statement? What do we want to known for on a football basis, what is it we would look for in our manager, his back up team and the players

I'm frustrated that I don't see anything like a unified vision by the management at Everton. We seem divided into 3-4 factions with different views. Moshiri needs to come out with a statement, agreed to by the other directors, and then they need to start acting on it TOGETHER.

The manager search is just one example of disjointed management. There was no need for 40 CV's to be dumped on Brands desk. Even now the profiles of managers we are supposed to be looking at is all over the place and I just don't think we look very good. Yes, we all want the best manager for our club but I have little faith that we have an agreed picture of what that manager should be like

Please - let's not fall out because of this. It's just opinions from both of us - without all the facts.


3.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 11:44:25
I don’t think I’ve ever said that the club are doing a good job in keeping the fans informed.

My view is what does it matter if informed or not?

I’m still going to support the club.

I have my preferred managerial choices but am fully aware that the club isn’t going to appoint who I want. They will appoint who they feel appropriate to the position. They don’t need my approval for that. They also don’t need to spoon feed the fans on who might or might not be in the running.

I support Everton football club whichever manager they appoint - it doesn’t matter.


4.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 11:53:26
How date Gingerdan come on here and make some valid points. Oh wait a minute 😂😂.


5.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 11:56:47
I’d also like to add I have seen no official statement from either spurs or Crystal Palace relating to their managerial hunt.

I’ve seen sky and others report Crystal Palace pulled out of deal for Nuno - but nothing official from Crystal Palace

I’ve also seen sky and others report that Spurs not going to appoint Conte - again nothing official from spurs regarding this.

I’ve also seen reports Fonseca likely to be new Spurs manager - however nothing official from Spurs.

There are rumours all over the place regarding managers but the only official announcements clubs ever give are when they actually appoint their manager.

If I have missed official statements from Palace and Spurs regarding who they are or aren’t interested in then I apologise, but I don’t think I have.

I think they’re being as transparent as Everton are.


6.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 12:11:40
It might be frustrating that the fans aren't kept in the loop over the new manager but it's not a major issue. Some of us will remember the days of when the first time us fans found out about a signing or manager was when the club announced them. Obviously, modern day football relies on the drama of it all. The rags get involved, websites run with stories that are wide of the mark or just down right lazy journalism. Interest is drummed up for betting sites to make their quid etc etc.
Is it taking too long to appoint a manager? Probably, but only because us fans want to know the direction the club is taking, we're not the most patient people in the world! But I'd rather they took their time to appoint the right man for the job. None of us want to be in this position again a year down the line, we've been here too many times since moshiri took over.
I don't want us to be shouting from the rooftops who is having talks or expected to take over until it's done, that way no other team can come in at the 11th hour and rob our target.


7.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 12:12:03
Bw not going to fall out - it’s good to have differing opinions.

I agree with you on your point regarding identity. We haven’t had an identity since the dogs of war days.

However I don’t think it’s as simple as coming out with a statement as to say what we want to achieve and what style we want.

If the club do that and then can’t get an appropriate manager to fulfil that identity what happens then?

We also have to deal with the issue of the players we currently have - if the identity is to be a high tempo pressing team - we clearly haven’t got the players to achieve that. If we want to be known as the team who play crab (sideways) football team then we’re sorted 😂

We all want the team to do well, we all want European football and I think we all realise it isn’t going to happen overnight.

We’re all frustrated at the amount of false dawns we’ve had - 6 managers since Martinez left in 2016 hasn’t helped, we need stability.

I just hope that whomever we appoint is given time to develop their own style which we as fans can embrace and hopefully achieve our European dreams
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8.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 12:48:58
The likes of Conte; if hired would be off like a shot if something better comes along. Ancelloti was 5th choice hence his love Everton rhetoric, didn't think he had a sniff.


9.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 13:26:56
I agree it can't happen overnight Dan but I just wish I could be more confident that we have an objective that the whole management is working towards
Rightly or wrongly Spurs have Levy, Palace have Parish. Who is making our decisions? It seems like it's Moshiri, or Kenwright or Brands or whoever else is shouting the loudest.


10.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 16:02:16
I think it's Moshiri and A. N. Other making the decisions. I still think that it's his train set and he won't let anyone else play with it.


11.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 16:18:03
GingerDan you're absolutely correct - 2 other clubs that are also in total disarray are eating into the summer with no manager in place and they too won't be able to make any plans over incomings or outgoings whilst that remains the case 👍.


12.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 17:27:50
Gingerdan I applaud you mate. 100% correct! The crazy thing is, you would think, especially over the past 5 years, everyone would understand how all this works and when we are actually informed of developments.

Of course they can't say "psst. were going to speak to that manager over there. We may not hire him but we're going to have a chat" or "Shh don't tell the other clubs but we're going to see if this player over here wants to join us, he said maybe but we have to have a word in ones agent ear first like".

We all just need to enjoy the summer, have a bbq, a few beers and see what happens.