Everton Rumours Archive September 04 2013

04 Sep 2013 21:31:09
Any idea what Barry's and lukaka wages are as the paper says it will cost everton £10 m. And over a year that's £197 k a week
Why it cost so much {Ed025's Note - its not that much, but in the end we needed them, our season depended on it, so yes we did pay too much, but hopefully its worth it..

There's no way everton will pay all the wages not a chance .at best we will pay half of ther wages .

I know but I thought it was simply loan no money changing hands and city were supposed to be paying a big chunk, just don't know why it's costing so much

There will have been a fee for Lukaku, I'd guess £3mill but it's just a guess.

I have no idea on wages but I'd deduct the loan fee before working out the wages per week

TJ

Gareth Barry came without a fee and 80% of his wages are being paid by City £125k a week.

Lukaku was £1.5m loan fee and all his wages is to be paid by us £50k a week.

Barry's contact runs out whilst he's with us
So he could sign for us on a free next year.
There is no option to buy Lukaku
Dave M

Not true, Citteh wouldn't release unless the wages were paid in full, that's why it nearly fell over. Selling Victor has now paid for Barrys waged

05 Sep 2013 15:04:18
Last poster you are wrong mate, there is now way we would pay 125-150k per week for Barry, not in a million years mate, not even if he was a free loan signing, no way Pedro

04 Sep 2013 16:58:21
Hi ed,

Just wondering why all through the transfer window you said we had money to spend regardless of sales. but now the window has closed an we have made money, you have said things aren't great on the money side. How is that? {Ed025's Note - i never said we had no money mate, with sky money to come, i think we have a decent war chest, maybe it was another ed?

I think it was clear for all to see WE HAVE NO MONEY what kind of club offers 12 million over four years if it had not been for the felliani deal going through we would not of signed anyone which is why it all happened so late.
I have always defended Bill Kenwright but not anymore its time for him to walk

04 Sep 2013 18:56:07
I was listening to Radio 5 on tdd and appatantly it's not uncommon for deals to be done this way.

04 Sep 2013 19:06:22
Lay BK, how can you complain about the deals done I'm this window? He doesn't pick who we go for but certainly gets a good price when we sell. Plus Baines is still an Everton player which is fantastic. Hope he gets a good contract now. Shold tie him to a new 5 year £70K a week at least. Make him deputy captain. He's 28 he can enjoy that responsibility. BK is good for us, if we could get investment would still want him in control of the club. Its not easy juggling an old stadium with not a lot of cash and fellow fans on his back. The way he was treated last early season was a disgrace. Would you rather have Johnson who sold players withot the managers knowledge? {Ed025's Note - baines will not take a cut of £5k per week..

Funny that BK is still bein slated even though he's been mooted as a deciding fa for in getting lukaku (due to his relationship with his agent who also reps Mirallas). Also, just because we said pay over four years doesn't mean we're skint. Madrid still owe Spurs money over Modric and I wouldn't say they're skint so wind ya neck in ya Blue Union doom mongerer.

He's not on 75 grand a week ed more like 50 {Ed025's Note - you must know then?..

We do have money, all premiership clubs do. But to quote someone I hate but for once spoke sense, Alan Pardew - we identified several offensive players who were options within our price range but none were better than what we had. You have to buy to improve.

Everton are stuck between a rock and a hard place, fans want unrealistic targets, why would a champions league calibre player come to us just because we can afford him? Transfers don't work how a majority think. The player has to want to come. Mirallas essentially sealed the Lukaku loan in the lads hotel room, just because we as fans want eg Honda does not mean Honda sees it as a career opportunity coming to us. We need to get real about the calibre we can attract regardless of cost

Svenny

Has Baines signed a new deal then?

04 Sep 2013 22:03:05
Not that I know of but that what's I am saying give him a new deal, £80K, £85K whatever!

Ed025. Over the whole of the transfer window you mentioned we would make a Marque signing even if we didn't sell anyone, it was your understanding we had money. After the window shut I read a few posts asking you if you thought we would spend the profit made in January! To which you responded 'Dont bank on it mate'. Was that just disappointment that we didn't spend more money? Or was you ill advised? With the transfers and sky money surely we have some money to spend in January- at least 15m? If Kenwright did need to sell to buy then our hopes should not have been raised. Do you think we have a 'war chest' as you have stated recently? You mentioned your contacts are close to the club but I think 90% of evertonians could have guessed what would happen. {Ed025's Note - you do get caught up in the moment, but at the end, the club statement confirmed what i had said, that we were buying Mcarthy whether felli was sold or not, which meant we had £15m to spend!..there will be money for january, whether or not we spend it is down to bobby..

Thanks for the reply ed. I honestly believe the fellaini money can't just go missing this time so yea I agree. It's down to Roberto whether or not there are new faces in january. We may not need any, we may need injury cover. Who knows!

04 Sep 2013 14:30:48
With rumours that fell was on 80k pw, do we know who the next top earners are? Sure heard heit is on 60plus. Just wondering if we've broken pay structure with the new signing and where abouts we would put ross if he was offered long term improved deal.already heard few rumours bout coleman being on moyes radar. {Ed025's Note - felli was on 80k..

Nothing would surprise me about Gollum, he apparently is saying he will come In for Bainsey again in Jan. For god sake will it ever end. If anything we as a club need stability.
Bluenose

From what I hear Peanuts is on a hefty salary since his return, also Hietinga Jags Baines and Jelli are all on 50+
People say we are poor and Moyes over achieved but very few know until this season we had the 7th biggest wage bill in England so considering there is a factual and obvious correlation between league placing and wage bill he never really smashed the barriers of expectancy. No idea on this seasons figures but I would say we were still top 9 in terms of wages. In prem top 8 as QPR have a big bill.
That's why we don't have much to spend ever, as we invest in keeping what we have and therefore sell high. Arteta took a wage cut for example

Svenny

04 Sep 2013 20:36:08
everyone was saying baines was on 44k per week all the time? has he signed a contract I don't know about? not going to take info from you svenny

Us having the 7th highest wage bill is there for anyone in the public to get off their ass and research themselves but if u would rather just spout hatred and rubbish

Svenny

04 Sep 2013 22:17:19
obviously we are going to habe the 7th highest wage bill after arsenal, spurs, united, chelsea, liverpool and city because I can't see too many norwich or fulham players being on 60k+ per week can you?

04 Sep 2013 12:16:20
Manu insist they have paid Everton no more than the £23.5m release clause that was in Fellaini's contract (a clause that expired at the end of July) but Everton say the deal is worth £27.5m. The difference is understood to be Fellaini's own cash sacrifice.

so we got 23.5 for felli and saved ourseves a few miion in future loyalty payments to felli, but he wasnt sold for 27m

still, I think I'd rather have mccarthy and barry anyway - feli ain't that great - he's good at a few things but not a complete player - slow sometimes too

REALLY PREFER MCCARTHY TO FELLANI, HAVE YOU WATCHED A GAME WITH FELLI IN THE TEAM?AND WHEN HIS NOT? {Ed025's Note - dazza, stop the capitals mate!...they will be deleted next time..

Its just been on tv that the deal is 26.5 with a further million in add ons. Plus sky say we saved 750,000 in loyalty payments to fellaini so the deal is more like 29 million not the 23.5 man u want us to believe. Its not an undisclosed so the truth is out there

Have Man U disclosed it as £27.5m? If they have then that's the price, as they HAVE to declare it to the New York Stock Exchange.

Alan Myers just confirmed the fee. Felli didn't take a £4m hit. The fee is understood to be £26.5m rising to £27.5m.

Sounds like bovine waste to me, a lot of Utd fans not happy at paying over the odds by dithering and thinking they could get him on the cheap.

They have to do something to take the pressure off the dithering one and this would seem like spin to do that.

Dazza - I watched FA CUP Everton vs Wigan where McCarthy was fantastic and was at it from the off at 100 miles per hour all over the place, whist felli and osman cruised around in first gear just expecting everton to win - mccarthy shoved it right up us that day - mccarthy wil be our engine

McCarthy will be our Gerrard in time
Cheeks

Barkley will be our Gerrard

Oh no, we'll have to let him get his own way with the juke box then! ;)

The unt story is just that, they PAID £26.5M + 1M ADD ONS = £27. 5 M. This story is a pathetic face saver for moyes and unt. PS. "Word on the street " is that moyes will be back in January for baines. However, this suposes that (a) moyes is still in the job, and (b) that they have another £27.5m burning a hole in their pocket.

Dazza felli stood out in the acm role he played before christmas because he could beat the cbs and outmuscle players and bring the ball down in tight spaces, at dcm for me gibson is better than him and works twice as hard, his passing is not the best and he much less effective, do I prefer to have mccarthy, with barkley in acm and now lukaku up top, n100%

Did you hear his comments? Sounded like he weren't arsed! F**k him

Rich84

04 Sep 2013 09:49:14
Well I hate to say I was proved right never put my name to these things.But I did say McCarthy was a cert said so on International duty when I seen him here in dublin.Fellaini also a cert, Barry only arrived in fear that Utd wouldn't stump up the cash for Fellaini then McCarthy would have had to wait till January.Dave Whelan was told in no uncertain terms to accept the bid Monday night or McCarthy would refuse to play, Martinez promised McCarthy he would take him when he got the Everton job. Anichebe fee is 4m upfront but can rise to 6.2m.Arsenal made an inquiry Sunday for Jagielka hence why we looked at Astori from Cagliari but Arsenal would only go as far as 6m. Chelsea also beat us to the signature of Christian Atsu last week.

So ill see everyone January.

Can you tell me next weeks euromillions please preferable prior to the numbers being drawn

I'm telling you these things BEFORE they happen. Everton will score this season. Tim Howard will make saves. Arsenal will show interest in winning games and Manchester United will play there home games at Old Trafford. I'll be back in January to see how many of these outlandish predictions are proven correct.
blueimp

And on what date did you post these predictions, nobody saw anichebe going for 6mil, and that McCarthy story is great after the deal .
Nice try mate who are you getting in January then I could do with a laugh.
snoopy
MOT

Blue imp, I stand in awe of your predictive prowess, I'm sure we will all follow your almost psychic abilities with bated breath. I don't see them all happening of course, but if you are proved right then I will be happy to give you the credit you deserve in January! ;)

Posted them Sunday but Ed never put them up, Anyways ill give you the heads up, Shane Duffy will be loaned soon and Gibsons injury is a lot worse than first feared. Looking at december before he returns.

Snoopy (has a nice ring to it)

So you knew in advance Fellaini was going to put a transfer request with 3 hours to go, as that was the only way that deal was going through? I'm sure Marouane himself didn't know he would be in that position. As for the rest, all common knowledge, widely reported so it doesn't take a genius or an insider to guess these things.

04 Sep 2013 16:30:33
50-50 whether duffy will be loaned out so hardly psychic are you and gibsons injury is worse than we feared okay mate considering he is training with the squad again hardly see him being out until december and arsenal look at him every season what are you getting at?

Blueimp what is this witchcraft you use if this all becomes true we will worship you as our god!
blue kev

04 Sep 2013 08:13:46
Paper talk says we only got £23.5M for Felli, with UTD paying him the £4M in loyalty bonus he gave up by handing in a transfer request to make up the £27.5M quoted fee. Do you think this is true Ed?

B'mouth Blue {Ed025's Note - no mate, as far as i know we got £27.5m..

I think Felli just left 4m. loyalty fee because transfer request himself.Seller and buyer fully 27.5 m.

Man u looking stupid for not bidding the £23 when the buyout clause was in play probably put the rumour round to try to save face good old DM dither dither dither

Remember 20% of the 12.5m profit goes to standard leige

I hope you're not a businessman.

03 Sep 2013 21:58:19
ed if barry does well do you think martinez will try to make it permanent and if so do you think he would be willing to take a pay cut to join us he seems like a decent bloke and I think he is a good player {Ed025's Note - hes a good player, it will depend on how much playing time he gets mate..

Gibbo need back up in case of injury.Barry is that one.

At 32 I would imagine a lot will depend on if he can stay injury free as well

I would guess if the deal was made permanent the best he could hope for is a 2yr deal. Players of his age are always looking for security so it may not be enough combined with the wage drop he would have to incur

At his age he really can not expect Man City style "silly money" or anything more than a 2 year contract whoever he were to sign for. So I think we have as much if not more chance than anyone else as I am sure he will enjoy his time here.